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The No Wake Zone / Re: politcally correct
« on: September 07, 2014, 12:59:18 PM »
I'd laugh my ass off if some black dude rolled up with an all white boat named "Cracker", but maybe that's the difference, I'd take it as humor.   Like how the OP started this thread, it's the  PC crap run a muck.  If I was trying to offend you, I call you names to your face.  Otherwise have a freakin sense of humor!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Exhaust gaskets?
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:09:37 AM »
I'd clean them good and  throw a straight edge across them just to verify they're not bowed.  Then use a quality high temp silicone like Permetex.  Do a bead around each port, let it stand 5 or 10 minutes before installing them.  Then let them dry for 24 hours before starting the motor.  See if that doesn't seal better.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Exhaust gaskets?
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:32:00 AM »
I haven't run exhaust gaskets on a boat in years.  I use high temp silicone.  Check your manifolds, if they are excessively warped, you'll never get them to seal.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: What octane ?
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:23:34 AM »
When you are blending, how do you measure?  Do you use a hydrometer?

Thanks,

Joe

No hydrometer, nothing that technical.  My tanks are 10 gallons so I break it down to 3 gallons  VP to 7 gallons 91.  I know that's not exactly 30%, but it's close enough for me.  If I'm mixing less than 10 gallons then I just do some quick math and and try to measure my blend. 
 
I'm planning on adding methanol injection so I can quit mixing and just run pump gas.  That seems to be a legit answer to "Do I have enough octane?".

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: What octane ?
« on: September 06, 2014, 09:04:37 PM »
But on serious note Danny - wet reckless is running 7.8-1 on 8lbs on 91 for years, am I a ticking time bomb or ok??


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There's more to the equation than just static compression and boost.  It really is a math equation, but you need to know what your top end can flow.  Carbs, cam, valve size, intake runners all play into how much octane is required and how much timing you can run to keep you out of detonation.  When I built my motor, I was trying to keep it a pump gas motor.  It's 8-1 static compression, 8lbs of boost and 30* timing.  I had John at C&J do my carbs, he ran the numbers and said I'd be very border line on pump gas.  Add in the heat at the river and I could be out of the safe zone for pump gas.  I run 30% VP110 with 91 pump gas to keep me safe.

I've read a fare amount on AV gas vs race gas and still don't understand much.   I've read guy's who swear by Av gas, and I've read some seemingly very smart guy's who say it's no better than 91 octane because it gets its rating differently, it uses different additives to get the 100 rating.  At the end of the day, it's the btu's the fuel produces, and the burn time that count.  I know I'm probably saying it wrong, but this is another very confusing topic.  That's why I choose to stay with race gas.  It takes the question  out of it for me.  And blending 30% race fuel with 91 pump gas gets the cost right on point with Av gas.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Is this bad?
« on: September 06, 2014, 07:35:36 AM »
Did you send your heads to BMS?

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The No Wake Zone / Re: politcally correct
« on: September 06, 2014, 07:28:49 AM »
I'm probably more politically active than most.  I follow politics too much.  In this instance, I wouldn't give a shit what someone thought about what I name my boat.  And I wouldn't hesitate to tell whoever objected just how I feel,  Name it whatever you want to name it.
If you name it spear chucker, anodize everything in gold, douse it in cheap cologne, and throw some 24" hoopty's on the trailer. 
Oh ya,.....and don't register it either.  O0

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The No Wake Zone / Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:30:04 PM »

That somebitch is cool.... What CNC machine are you using? My son is getting into it pretty heavy at school.. We went and saw an 11 axis cnc in action, I was blown away.

GT

11 Axis!!!  That's some Morphicius mind F#CKING there. :sly:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Freeze plugs.
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:14:25 PM »
Believe it or not, I ran into this same issue a while back.  BBC's aren't as popular as they used to be for road use anymore.  Most auto parts only carry what moves these days.  You may have to order them from some place like Summit. Definitely brass.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:04:46 PM »
I got tired of doing all sorts of cool stuff for other people.  I started writing programs to lighten my Berkeley G bowl.

Figured I would start with the things that take the longest, cost the most in tooling, and yield the smallest gains (or none at all) LOL

Finally I have something to post here!  Wooohoooooo

After all that work, I hate to break this to you buddy, the water flows on the inside of that bowl!
JK Joe, that looks sick!!  How much weight did you lose?

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Who likes Steak?
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:50:44 PM »
What's the sayin, Wack its horns, wipe its ass, and drop it on the plate.


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Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair / Re: Looking for fiber a resin
« on: September 04, 2014, 08:27:18 PM »
Any thoughts on this stuff???

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Epoxy resin is real good stuff, just not compatible with polyester resin, which is what most boats are made off.  Plus I personally think it's overkill for most repair/ restore most of us do to our boats.  And, epoxy is usually much more expensive than polyester resin.   How much do you need?  If your doing a relatively small job, most car paint supply stores sell it.  If you need more than a gallon, then maybe buy from someone on line like....
http://www.sherfab.com/

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The No Wake Zone / Re: bahner vs tahit day cruiser?
« on: September 03, 2014, 08:48:52 PM »
If you don't have any emotional attachment to either boat, I'd have to agree on going with the one requiring least amount of work.  I believe that after these boats have passed through multiple hands, the value is in the condition of the boat and what's in the boat more than the name on the side. There are a few exceptions where the name alone adds value.  Bahner is a good name, but your talking about a 30+ year old boat.

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WTB / Re: Life line
« on: September 03, 2014, 07:17:57 PM »
Call Lifeline and ask them if they have any trade in vests, this is what I did.  I bought a fully gone through vest with new zippers, new floatation, cleaned, and a re-certification for the same price everybody sells them for used on the  forums, and needing everything I just mentioned. 

http://www.lifelineracegear.com/main/

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: No fuel from left tank
« on: September 03, 2014, 02:01:44 PM »
Also a loose fuel line will allow the pump to suck air, not fuel.  Make sure all the fittings on the fuel lines are good and tight. 

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The No Wake Zone / Re: 454 rods anyone?
« on: August 29, 2014, 06:26:57 PM »
I have no use for them and I hate to scrap them.  If you can use them, that's much better than scrapping.  50.00 will cover  cost of shipping, and buy me a soda for my effort.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: 454 rods anyone?
« on: August 29, 2014, 03:48:36 PM »
If you're looking for stock, I have a complete set with pistons attached I'd let you have for 50.00 bucks shipped.

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Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair / Re: Looking for fiber a resin
« on: August 28, 2014, 01:57:37 PM »
I wouldnt use home d resin/cloth for anything that needs structural integrity. Search for a good local fiberglass business.... We have fiberlay in san Diego. They have gels, resins, mats,ext...

Why not?  Evercoat sold at Home Depot is the same as Evercoat sold at your local paint store.  The problem I have is the fiberglass is ridiculously expensive.
Small repair HD is convenient, but if you need decent quantities of material, it's probably cheaper to go to a specialty supplier.  I have know idea if Utah has them, but I use S&W plastics. There's a few of them here in So Cal.   They have resin, gel, glass, and tools pretty reasonably priced.

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Random Boat Parts For Sale / Re: Bbc / sbc
« on: August 27, 2014, 07:59:50 PM »
Ok, all I need is your number.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Rebuilding 454
« on: August 27, 2014, 11:54:37 AM »
Your machinist works for you...make sure he understands that.  Do your own research on the build, use the recommendations from the parts manufacturers as far as clearances, tolerances, etc.  make him do it your way, not "the way he always does it"...and check his work.

I agree your machinist works for you, but having to tell him how to build an engine specific to your needs is like telling your lawyer how to defend you in court, your doctor how to do surgery, or your accountant how to prepare your taxes.  You should give him your details on what you expect and what you want it to do in your application, and they tell you how to make that a reality, and how much it's going to cost to get there. 

I agree with Crewchief, if you have to tell him what the clearances should be or "boat build spec" v.s. a car motor, you're probably in the wrong shop.

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Random Boat Parts For Sale / Re: Bbc / sbc
« on: August 27, 2014, 11:34:28 AM »
I think I have the stringer motor mounts.  I can text pics if you like.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: BB vs SB
« on: August 27, 2014, 09:09:12 AM »
Everyone that has commented has made valid points for sure, my experience with bbc to sbc is not as extreme as everyone else although I do run a bbc open loop cooling in my 21 open bow and it has plenty of power and runs great no issues nothing. Kroggy just bought a 21 open bow shock wave with the 6.2L sbc fuel injected closed loop, and that motor has shocked me every time I get into or drive his boat. the sbc has plenty of power to push that heavy open bow around the river at a comfy 55 - 57 mph while getting great mpg I think the *** fills up every 4 trips as oppose to me filling up every trip. If your wanting to build a sick ass hp boat I'd definetly go with a bbc if your wanting good power and don't wanna spend as much and have a bad ass motor that will get great mpg then maybe sbc is the way to go. Just my .02 and again I'm no big engine guru just a fellow jet boat guy sharing my knowledge.

SRC



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Is this 6.2 a fuel injected LS motor?  That's a whole different animal IMO.  Traditional BBC v.s. SBC to me comes down to bigger boat, bigger motor when talking jet  boats.  GT explained why pretty well.  I would say the cost difference between  the 2 builds is minimal at best, not enough to choose one over the other, so why short change your ride.  Why pull the nuts out of a small block to get it to do the same things a mild build BBC can do for years with out trying hard, and only maintenance is oil changes.  Fuel consumption again isn't  really part of the  equation, maybe a couple gallons a weekend, 10.00 dollars?
Change the drive to say an IO then all this changes.

Now if you want to build a 6.2 MPFI closed loop motor that would be a cool motor to build and put in a day cruiser, maybe even throw a turbo on it just because.  Someday that will be a build I'd like to do.

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Projects / Re: 1978 Biesemeyer 21 foot daycruiser
« on: August 25, 2014, 11:17:03 AM »
That is a good family boat for sure.  If that particular boat is good, only further inspection will tell.  Depending on your ability and willingness to do repairs will determine if this boat is a good deal.  For someone who isn't afraid to replace a floor or maybe even some stringers, and who's looking for a day cruiser, that boat could be a really good deal if motor and pump are in good shape as you say.  I'd love to see more pic's with a little detail of motor and interior.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Check oil on trailer or in water?
« on: August 22, 2014, 06:53:22 PM »
You want to know the level of the oil as it's going to sit in the motor on the water.  If you just level your trailer, or check it on a flat garage floor, you'll be fine.  Too much oil isn't good thing for a few reasons.  As stated above you can blow oil out anywhere it can get out, making a big mess.  If the crank is hitting the oil in the pan, it will whip it into a froth which doesn't pump well, plus it robs horse power. Excessive oil hitting the crank and other moving parts can create even more crankcase pressure than normal which can blow out engine seals like crank seals.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Finally getting over my pity party
« on: August 11, 2014, 09:46:12 PM »
Did you catch the link I posted?  I think a complete 4 bolt for 800.00 is a good start to a new beginning.  Between the 2 motors you may have all you need but machine work and gaskets.  Probably need a cam, but it would be a nice start,

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