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Just don't use Vertglass or other polymer gel coat treatments. Might be OK if you're trying to spruce up to sell, but then the buyer is going to be pissed, because it just won't last. Ask me how I know.

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Random Boat Parts For Sale / Exhaust
« on: August 20, 2009, 11:47:33 PM »
I have 2 BBC exhaust/headers for sale
1. One set of BIG (2.5" tubes/4" collectors) coated water injected (injectors included) Rewarder through transom headers. Also included are new collector gaskets. Headers are in good shape--just changing to jacketed in order to cover engine. $600.
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=45596


2. One set of polished 3.5" logs with nicson risers (elbows, not snails) Probably don't flow likeheaders, but alot better than typical restricted logs, plus quiet and cool (no more tickets or header burns) $400.
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=45591

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Central Valley / Re: Millerton Vs. Bass Lake?
« on: August 20, 2009, 10:32:17 PM »
Oooo.....too bad. I heard Pine Flat was down to about 25%, and when it's 100* at PF, it'll be in the low 80s at Shaver. Have a good time, but I'm still going up to Shaver for the week--anyone else want to get away for a couple days?

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Central Valley / Re: Millerton Vs. Bass Lake?
« on: August 19, 2009, 04:57:00 AM »
About 40 miles from my house in Clovis--probably 5-6 miles farther from the HWY 41 exit on HWY 99 in Fresno--it'll take right at an hour towing a boat. Anyone else interested in coming up? We'll have a BBQ at my place one evening that week.

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Central Valley / Re: Millerton Vs. Bass Lake?
« on: August 18, 2009, 11:23:31 PM »
Hey Jeff, I was just typing when you posted up.

CenCal,
Like propless said, I would suggest you consider Shaver Lake--similar temps, scenery, fresh air to Bass Lake, but better camping and no launch fees. During the week, there are normally very few boats other than the fishermen. I am planning to spend next week up there working on my Sanger flat bottom project. If you have any questions, give me a call.
Mark--"Sanger Pete"
(559) 917-1785




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Projects / Re: Project 1979 Sanger Super Jet
« on: August 17, 2009, 03:37:48 AM »
Nice--I never get tired of seeing these old Sangers brought back to life. I don't know your plans about interior, but I recently met the guy that ran Lee Wells upholstery (who did all of Sanger's interiors) for many years. He now has a little shop--works by himself--and has access to the original Sanger interior templates, and I was surprised at his prices and when I asked him about his reasonable prices, he said "low overhead, and lots of boat experience". I know I'm going to have him do an interior for my 17'-10" Sanger Flat this winter.

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Boat Showcase / Re: 1974 Belmont..
« on: August 17, 2009, 02:59:17 AM »
Yea, Belmont Boats was know for its flat bottoms in the 60s. They were a custom manufacturer that built quality boats. I got to know the owner in 1978/79, but haven't been by the old shop (located just west of HWY 99 on Belmont--across from the cemetary) in many years. From what I remember, their jet boats were solid and fairly heavy with a long "crowned" deck, but with straight bottoms and a good ride. I used to see them regularly around the Fresno area, but very seldom see any--except for a couple major projects listed for sale in the past year or two. I have seen several pretty nice flat bottoms recently.

If you want, I'll check to see if there is anyone left at the shop, so give me a call--might save you a trip.

Mark--"Sanger Pete"
markpete559@comcast.net
(559) 917-1785

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: dual carb fuel????
« on: August 10, 2009, 04:15:25 PM »
I had the same set up on a 20' mini cruiser, except with only 1 fuel feed per carb. I am no carb expert, but can't imagine why you would get flooded out at full throttle but not at cruising speed or idle. Do you have a mechanical or electric fuel pump? How about a fuel pressure guage? Although, the TR looks good, when I replaced mine with a single carb performer intake and an 850 holley, I gained 200-300 rpms and top speed, and improved fuel economy by about 20%.

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Boat Showcase / Re: been lurking for a bit....
« on: July 30, 2009, 08:05:53 PM »
Saw your boat on CL--looked like a good deal. Have you had it out on the water yet? Although most of the socal guys are south of you, I'm up north in Fresno/Clovis. Welcome.
Mark--"Sanger Pete"

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The No Wake Zone / Re: HELP ASAP WITH BOAT ID
« on: July 26, 2009, 09:21:45 PM »
I had a 1976 Cyclone--it was shaped like a southwind (no rounded transom), but with a bubble deck. I've also had a couple of sangers, and the tipoff is the round hole in the transom for the jet pump (pump slips in from inside).

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Gelcoat / Paint / Fireberglass Repair / Re: cracked dash
« on: July 26, 2009, 09:38:35 AM »
Holy Crack Batman.   :o  Looks like you may need to pull the old wood out and replace with new and then fix the crack in the glass.  Then coat the new wood with a layer of glass cloth and resin.

If the crack extends up from the steering wheel to the deck, you'll have to redo it as stated, but it is a tough job. If the crack is just what is shown under the steering wheel, I would be very tempted to drill and bolt those 2 plates together, especially if you can get a decent bite on good wood in between the plates.

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Hulls / Re: jrs fiberglass jet boats.
« on: July 21, 2009, 09:12:53 AM »
Don't think so--mine had no brown metal flake--just the vinyl wood grain on the deck and the silver and red metal flake on the bubble and the rest of the hull. If you ever see it around--CF 3868 HY--I have the pink slips.

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Hulls / Re: jrs fiberglass jet boats.
« on: July 20, 2009, 11:02:51 PM »
Hey, I lost a 1975 19' Kona Makai bubble deck/455 Olds/Je pump in Atscadero a few years back--probably the ugliest boat I've ever seen. Nice lines, but ugly gel colors (wood grain deck, silver and red metal flake) and condition (about 80 grit). I sort of sold/financed/gave it as a project to a friend, and didn't hear from him for about 4 years. The story of my life--in fact, I just found the pink slips in an old file today.

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Hulls / Re: Lifting hull off trailer? and a floor question
« on: July 20, 2009, 07:33:21 PM »
I set mine down on a flat bottom boat dolly that I have so I could roll it around, but I have seen some set upside down on a number of strategically placed tires.

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Engines / Engine Parts For Sale / Re: Fresh Rebuilt BBF 460
« on: July 20, 2009, 07:23:16 PM »
There you go, propless--you could be back in the water by next weekend.
Pete

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Hulls / Re: Omega
« on: July 20, 2009, 01:36:31 AM »
My first jet was a 1975 Omega 18'/455 Olds/Jacuzzi WJ that I purchased new. I used it hard it for 4 seasons, and never had a problem. It is still my wife's favorite boat.

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Hulls / Re: Lifting hull off trailer? and a floor question
« on: July 20, 2009, 01:28:14 AM »
I used 2 cherry pickers to, by myself, jack an 18' jetboat (no motor or interior, and drained tanks) off the trailer, turned it over and set it down on a dolly. Where in CA are you located?

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Lazy State Workers...
« on: July 20, 2009, 01:13:41 AM »
Skip, I'm sure that you are a hard worker and earn less than you are paid. I think that part of the problem is that the state workers that the general public come in contact with really suck at customer service because they know they have ALL the cards--ie, DMV, State Parks, Franchise Tax Board (guilty until proven innocent), CARB, and other various state agencies.  After the frustration in dealing with these state people, it is natural to paint the rest with a broad brush. 

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The No Wake Zone / Re: something unuseful today...
« on: July 08, 2009, 07:56:16 PM »
Quote
TODAY AT PRECISLEY 5 MINUTES AND SIX SECONDS AFTER FOUR IT WILL BE;

 
 

4:05:06  07/08/09

 


ENJOY THIS ONE SECOND, IN OUR LIFETIME, EVENT…  :D

I heard the date and time was:
12:34.56 on 07-08-09


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Boats For Sale / Re: Craigslist & ebay boats
« on: July 02, 2009, 11:37:34 AM »
I had a DiMarco just like this one--a project boat that was donated to my non profit corporation. I advertised for sale it as a project, and had responses from 3 different people who had previously owned that same hull, who all said that it was the best riding jet boat they had ever been in. I ended up selling it to a local guy who wanted to restore it, but I think it's still a project.

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Projects / Re: I think I may have found the ONE!
« on: June 25, 2009, 12:45:03 AM »
Kind of hard to get oriented with your pictures, but it looks very similar to the crack/repair we did on my son's Sanger cruiser. Note in the first picture, someone previously tried to "bondo" the crack (gray stuff)--needless to say, it still leaked.


Ground out the bad glass--had to get rid of most of the strake before rebuilding it with new glass



Sanding/smoothing fiberglass work



Brushed on white gel coat



Finish sanding the gel.



After finishing the bottom, we turned it back over, cut out the poorly repaired floor, removed soggy foam, laid several layers of glass/mat to back up the bottom repair, and glassed in a center stringer and 2 additional supports for the new floor. Seems to me that it took a couple of weekends to complete the job. Have 2 seasons on the boat and haven't had any more problems.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: frozen tunnel ram ?
« on: June 08, 2009, 09:40:01 AM »
Sounds to me like it was doing what it's supposed to do--increase velocity and cool the gas/air mix. I've heard of them icing up, but have only personally had one get cold. What rpms were you running?

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The No Wake Zone / Re: NEW SANGER DAYCRUISER
« on: June 07, 2009, 11:24:37 PM »
$40K, holy crap! by the time you buy a trailer and put in a Bravo I with a 454 or a 502 you're gonna be in a $55K +/- boat , guess they don't want to have to build too many of them.. ???

GT

Yea, I hear you. On one hand, I'm just a cheap skate who has never paid more than about $6K for a turn key boat--about the same as some of the preformance boat guys spend on their stereos--and it sure sounds like alot of money to me. On the other hand, Sanger was getting nearly that for some of their wake board boats a year or two ago and I still hear of socal guys spending $50K+ for some of those newer rides. Actually, I think they are bringing it back because the ski boat market is in the tank and they are hoping to tap back into that classic boat crowd to keep their doors open. Sure makes me think about putting my Sanger v-drive mini up for sale. Probably would sell it for half the replacement cost.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: NEW SANGER DAYCRUISER
« on: June 07, 2009, 10:20:58 PM »
I've talked to two guys who have talked to Sanger and visited and seen the first two hull out of the mold. Beautiful full stinger boats, but a bit pricey--stage III rigged hull without power or trailer--nearly $40K. The first two are being set up as v-drives, but I know that Sanger has built several of their minis (1984/85) with stern drive power, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some built with this option--plus it might be the easiest way to comply with the CARB (California Air Resource Board) 2009 Standards for boats sold in CA. I under stand that Sanger also has several of their classic hull molds, so there may be some other old/new hull possibilities in the future.

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The No Wake Zone / Re: Did you vote
« on: June 07, 2009, 09:26:37 PM »
1.  OBAMA said that if I voted for McCain the unemployment would go up 15% now
2.  OBAMA said that if I voted for McCain that more homes would end up in for clouser
3.  OBAMA said that if I voted for McCain  that my savings would be gone 401k yes
4   OBAMA said that if I voted for McCain that the national dept would double it has
5.  OBAMA said that if I voted for McCain that it would hurt Big buisness good by G.M.C
               
                 SORRY I VOTED FOR MCCAIN NOW CAN I CHANGE MY VOTE
 
          CHEVY STOCK FROM $90.00 to .29 cents
       Ford owners you now have to pay child support to G.M.C Great-Massif- Cxnt


Maybe it's the fumes from (interior house) painting all day, but I thought Obama won?

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