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Jet Pumps / Re: Steering Nozzle O ring on a 12JF pump
« on: July 15, 2017, 01:36:38 PM »
Can the O-ring on the steering nozzle be replaced without tearing everything down ?

Thanks !!

Don

Well, I answered my own question.   I took the steering nozzle  off yesterday, and unlike the diagram on the Berkeley sales webpage, a 12JF doesn't have a grove for the O-ring to fit in.

So,  if anybody needs a $16+ shipping  nozzle O-ring for $10 shipping included, send a PM.

Don



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Jet Pumps / Steering Nozzle O ring on a 12JF pump
« on: July 10, 2017, 05:49:46 PM »
Can the O-ring on the steering nozzle be replaced without tearing everything down ?

Thanks !!

Don

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Jet Pumps / Re: Berk 12JF change from cable steer to hydraulic ?
« on: July 12, 2016, 06:31:50 PM »
Not stupid .....

Just looking for a different solution.


Don

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Jet Pumps / Berk 12JF change from cable steer to hydraulic ?
« on: July 12, 2016, 05:00:20 PM »
I would like to change from a rack/pinion cable steer to a hydraulic steer.

This has probably been done before, but pictures and part numbers would sure be helpful.

Thanks !!

Don

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Picture in reply 16 looks like there is a bronze bearing that the starter gear goes up against  ( not all the way to the snout )

Last picture in reply 25 looks like the flex plate is over the bronze bearing  ( and the starter gear can't fully engage )

Is this correct or are  the pictures deceiving ?

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I bought this boat in 1988 when my son and his high school buddies wanted to ski the river. There had been some serious prop accidents and I liked the safety of the enclosed impeller.

He married in 98 and I pickled the engine and put it in the back of the garage.   The grandsons ... 10 and 8 spotted the boat last year and I told them I would get it going this year.

I pulled the distributer to prevent damage when I took the engine out of the boat to freshen up the jet pump.

All was remarkably clean ... I lubed it monthly when it was being used. It had 197 hours on the meter and all has been fresh water.

Still.... after 25 years, I wanted to look at the pump.

   I did find bad u-joints .... not from lack of lube, but rather from lack of a full compliment of needle bearings in three cups ...  they were each missing one needle from the factory .. this caused the needles to not sit straight and that caused the crosses to develop slanted marks on the hardened surfaces.
I suspect the saving grace was that the driveshaft was near 0 degree to the engine and pump ... rear mount bell housing attaches to pump snout.


The pump thrust bearing was in excellent shape as well as the bushings in the bowl that support the shaft's rear past the impeller.

I added new rubber seals and packing rings.

So, for sure, pulling the engine was a good thing because of the u-joints and seals.

I replaced the distributor and timed it with a 12 volt light replacing the coil  ... the dual points open just as the mark is at 32 degrees BTDC.

I will time it under load once I get it back in the water.

I just needed a starting point to get it warmed up before I left the dock.

Many Thanks !!

Don in Huntsville 

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Holly 650
Performer dual plane
2.02 heads  9.0 ratio
262  hydraulic cam
through the transom wet logs
Guessing somewhere above 260 hp
"A"impeller JF pump 18 foot ski boat.

Thanks

 

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Call me cautious , but I'd go to the dragstrip and find someone running a big block and offer them a case of beer to look this project over.

Sometimes a second set of eyes are priceless.

Don

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All I can find around here at the marinas is 87 octane 10% alki.

I have a 88 Chevy small block 350 with a Mallory Marine dual point distributor.

Where should I set the timing for this crap gas ?

Don

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Jet Pumps / Re: Speedometer not working
« on: January 28, 2014, 08:17:15 AM »
The indicator works on water pressure.

Make sure your rubber hose isn't kinked or stopped up with sand or mud.

Take a short piece of hose and hook it  the the back of the speedometer. lightly blow into the hose.

You should be able to max the speedometer out and it should return to zero smoothly.

If that works, then look at the hose or pickup.


Don R
 

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Jet Pumps / Re: Trying to remove impeller, need puller
« on: January 26, 2014, 09:53:43 AM »
I know that the factory puller is big $$$$, but my impeller was on so tight that a three jaw would have ripped the grove off of the impeller.   The factory puller pulls all 360 degrees of the impeller ... and it was still a hard pull.

I think my key tried to ride up on the keyway ramp and made it even harder.

Good Luck !!


Don

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Jet Pumps / Thrust Bearing Grease
« on: September 02, 2013, 06:36:43 PM »
What brand grease are you using to lubricate the thrust bearing ?

Don R

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Jet Pumps / Pulling the shaft on a 12JF
« on: July 23, 2013, 07:25:56 PM »
This is a 1988 Marlin 188 ski boat with walk-through windshield that I bought new in 1988.
It's a small block Chevy turning around 4400 on an "A" aluminum impeller.

My son and his friends all learned to deep-water barefoot behind this boat.
( I didn't want to turn a bunch of teenagers loose with an exposed prop )
Its been in fresh water ( Tennessee River )  three to four months each year, and always stored indoors
during our "off-seasons".

I'm going to pass it along to my grandsons ( 13 and 10 ) who are wanting to learn to ski.

I wanted to make sure that the  u-joints in the drive shaft were OK, and  especially the thrust bearing.

( 1 )
Taking off the impeller nut ............... Good Grief !!!   I had to borrow a 3/4 breaker bar and a long pipe
to finally break that nut loose. 70 foot pounds ?    I'm thinking more like 300-350 foot pounds to break it loose.

( 2 )
Now to the impeller.   I had the proper Berkeley Hub Puller and I'll say that without that specialty puller,
I would have chewed up the impeller.    The impeller fought me the whole way.  It was as hard pulling the last quarter inch as the first.  This thing was  ATTACHED to the shaft.

( 3 )
After removing the four Allen bolts that holds the thrust bearing,  The shaft was then tapped forward ....   
350 Chevy lifted around 12 inches with chain hoist and secured with additional heavy duty straps.       
Steel joists overhead in garage.

( 4 )  Thrust bearing looks and feels great .  I was worried about water intrusion, but I must have lubed it once or twice in 25 years. It was coated really well with Moly EP and shows no rust on any surface. The bearing cavity
on either side of the bearing was full of grease and no water.

( 5 ) 
U-joints in the drive line     Again, everything looks and feels so smooth that I'm not going to try to pull the drive-line from the crankshaft .... Maybe if I had a cut-down 3/8 Allen wrench that would allow good contact with the allens.... but the u-joints interfere.       A cut down "L-shaped" Allen would fit, but I don't think its worth it here.    The Harden Marine bell housing has an inspection port suitable for hitting the zerks with lube.

( 6 )
Wear Ring and Impeller wear... nothing noted visually or with feeler gage.     The area on the impeller that is closest to the wear ring still has zinc chromate paint coating.

The only area of the impeller that has lost paint is in the centers of each blade on the suction side.   There are a few dings on the leading edge of the blades, but small enough to either leave or dress.   I may smooth them up
a bit with a small file.

I have spent several days on and off on the project, and I will order new ropes and seals and O-rings and nylon sleeves for the steering....     Maybe a nice new Place Diverter next year    And Aluminum heads  ...

Rent or buy the tools from Berk .    They were worth the added expense.

DonR

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Jet Pumps / Re: Mini's, straights and full droop snoots
« on: July 18, 2013, 08:07:17 PM »
A Yugo with slicks.........that would be awesome


 Especially if it could light 'em up on command.  ;)

Don R

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Jet Pumps / Berkeley 12JF pump ( how to remove ? )
« on: July 03, 2013, 10:24:16 PM »
Hey Guys,

Greetings from land-locked North Alabama.

We have a walk-through windshield bow rider ski boat that's been in the family for around 25 years.
Lots of dry storage time and only two to three months of running it on the Tennessee River each year.

I'm about ready to pass it on to my son and grandsons, so I want to freshen it up a little with a new thrust bearing and seals.

The JF pump is all outside the hull... the intake mounts up in a special notch under the hull at the transom and
is held to the hull with 14 or so stainless steel bolts and some kind of epoxy potting compound all under the top of the intake tube and on the back of the transom.

Removing the bolts was no problem, but I'll be darned if I can see a way to get the pump off the hull without tearing up more than I can repair.

Is there special tools or procedures to free the pump from the hull ?   

For all the advantages that the JF pump offers for lower performance boats, the two piece pumps look so much easier to service and remove.

My other option is to lift the engine high enough to slip the shaft  out under the oil pan.
And I'm leaning towards this option more and more.

I envy you guys that have year-round boating.


Don in Huntsville, Alabama





 


 

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