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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: September 04, 2009, 09:30:01 AM »
Sorry I've kept everyone outta the loop on the site, just been busy as hell working my ass off to get this goddamn thing back on the lake! I have changed a few things and done some things better this time around. My brother or I will be posting pics real soon nothing special but she's definitley back and working great SO FAR!  :mad: still cannot believe that this thing is still able to run after being 83ft deep for 2 weeks just crazy to me  :screwy: Did have big plans for a new crazy motor set up but that fell through it would have been super unique a 500ci caddy twin turbo it was sick as hell!!!!! But for now the 460 is still a fighter to stay alive and sure she'll get me through anything at this point! I have next weekend planned so far but we'll see. I really wanted to go out during the week when it calm, but can't get off work so I guess her next resurected maiden voyage will have to be with all the craziness of SAG on the weekend, including roll bar boats and lake lice.  :banghead: I will post it up when I'm toatally lake ready with pics! Thanks again for all the support guys!

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Random Boat Parts For Sale / Re: 460 twisty's
« on: July 05, 2009, 12:27:16 PM »
I want them for sure hit me up and will work out the details

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 19, 2009, 09:31:02 AM »
Yeah SORRY guys! Just been busy as hell! The reason I wasnt there was I had some family matters that I had to take care of Sun morn and he didn't call me till 12:30 so I had to haul ass all the way from Gilbert to get there. I picked it up around 1 or 1:30 it had just finished draining.  :'( Got it home and it was crunch time! Tore all the interior out of it, man did it stink like dirty pu@$y!!!! But all in all was not in too bad of shape, if thats possible to say after 2 weeks of 83 feet deep! Some pretty rough scratches on the rear where it was stuck in 2 feet of mud and wedged in between a tree, but no holes, thank god! The diver said it took over 1500lbs of air bag pressure just to get it out of the mud. I guess it was straight up and down just stuck like a lawn dart! My buddy came over and helped me try to save the motor he's been through this motor saving before so I'm glad he was there. We pulled all the plugs and started draining the oil or water should I say then he sprayed copious amounts of PB in the cylinders! Then we hand cranked the motor and it actually was turning great, BLASTING water out of the cylinders! Sprayed a bunch more PB into the cylinders and put new oil in it, then had to let it sit because it was already midnight and had to be up for work at 4am!  :banghead: Yesterday we got the carb all cleaned and dryed out and all the electronics cleaned. Still can't believe the distributor, the starter and all the gauges still work not that I'm keeping the gauges they are f'd up looking! So anyways, the electric fuel pump was done and of course every place was already closed  :banghead: so we just dumped gas in the carb, after going and buying a new batt  :mad: and she barked and kept on barking, she really really wants to come back to life!! I was suprised and happy ;D  :'( at how easily she wanted to fire up! So, I think after I get that new fuel pump and constant good fuel she'll run (fingers crossed tightly) after work! We'll let her run for like a minute or 2 and start draining oil again until I have clean oil. Thank you Ray for those pictures that is KICK ASS of you, you're the man!!!! As too the rest of you, I'm very thankful for all the concern and all the help! I really wanted to be badly but, sh!t happens right! I love that Jet Boaters are truley like a family and cool as hell when you get to know us, and not just loud, annoying, and pointless boats on the water like everybody thinks right! Fu@k them all! I'll keep all of you posted as to if she comes back to LIFE!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 15, 2009, 08:31:34 AM »
Yeah so far he said it's gonna happen sat morning and if not sun morning or both! At this point all I can do is hope!!! I just at least want closure or the boat out of the water preferably the later. My mind is gone at this point,  :screwy: but with alot of hope! I've just been looking into the things I can do for the motor, if it's hydrolocked, and the interior. The problem is is that i just finished the boat about $5500 total, with the price of the boat being $2400 and all the little shit that adds up. It gets to the wallet fast ya know! And I'm far from having a ton of money, so I'm hopeing that I can rebuild this before the season is over! (IF THEY EVEN FIND IT)  :'( trying to keep the hope....

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 09, 2009, 12:15:48 PM »
Yeah sick is definitely the word it's not coming up now till next weekend Charlie which is the diver helping me is sick!  :banghead: WTF, so my nightmare continues yet another week, I honestly cannot believe this! I never thought I would make it through this week and now I have to wait another week! This is like torturing someone by pulling their fingernails and toenails off with needle nose pliers! Mike, the other diver said that they were not going out this weekend cause it's a holiday weekend, and that he could do it on Mon. But he could cost a shit load more $$$ and Charlie said Mike drags to hook his boats and that can take forever! So again YES my pain is to the bone at this point!! My brain is mush  :screwy:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 06, 2009, 08:44:38 PM »
Yeah honestly, Thank all of you for your help on this touchy subject, and I'm not sure if it's gonna be Fri or Sat yet I'll let you know. And Thanks Rebel If Sat I'll let you know ok!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 06, 2009, 06:01:49 PM »
Thanks Kev!!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 06, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
Ok here goes! She was driving good straight, back and forth, not to fast or anything she was just getting a little feel of it, but it was choppi and big a$$ ocean liners were going by putting up huuggee swells in the main part of the lake. Which is when she decided she was gonna do doughnuts.  :screwy: She got around one time and I yelled at her don't do that just go straight and that's when my friend that was in the back seat yelled, go straight, go straight! Of course she went around that last time and he said holy sh*t go go go!!! She looked back and of course took her foot out of it and froze, which you know, about 20 gallons of water came over the transom and sides. It took about 2 seconds and the entire motor was under water, and choked out the motor!   :'( Within another 2 seconds the bow was coming up in the air really fast! We all jumped out, and within a minute 2 boats came to our rescue. Once we made sure that everyone was ok, I asked the age old question? Do you have a rope so we can tow it back in to shollow water? You know, the fu@ked up part was the 2 boats that came to help us not one of them had a fu@king rope.  :banghead: I wanted to throw up looking at my boat with it's bow straight up in the air I couldn't even talk I lost all brain function!   :screwy: Then the other guy we flagged down didn't have a goddamn rope either, at this point I was at a loss for words!!  :banghead:  I cannot believe people don't believe that a fu@king rope is important on a boat, especially 3 different people!!!!  :mad: And the shitty part was just 5min before this whole thing happened these cool ass jet boat guys that we were hanging out with at the sand bar in the back were right at the rocks with us and had left to go home. I got back to the dock still wanting to throw up, and saw those guys loading up their boat and told them what happened and they looked at me like deer in headlights! He said fu@k that and literally backed his jet boat back in to the water and said lets go it bobs under the water for like 30min. So he grabbed a ROPE and we went to try and find it , but no luck!  :'( I thanked those guys up and down cause they were the most concerned and actually felt my pain you could tell!!  So long story short, in the end I was a dumb ass and am re-living this horrible experience over and over in my head, but I am very thankful that none of us were hurt or worse!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 06, 2009, 01:08:58 PM »
Thanks to all of you for your input on this subject! It has given me a pretty good idea of what I need to do. First I have to see the damn thing come out of the water! :'( it's driving me nuts waiting till fri or sat till I even see what I'm getting myself into!  :banghead:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 05, 2009, 06:41:26 PM »
Thanks Ralph that sounds good I'll have to do all that. What about the starter will I have to replace that first? And how will i know if it has a bent rod or valves, it just wont turn?

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 05, 2009, 05:45:38 PM »
What if i take it straight home, drain the oil and water out of the cylinders and air out the carb, put new oil or atf in it right away? What about the distributor and the starter are they gonna be shot? Also, they are not marine products! What about the thru the transom wet headers do they have to come off also?  :mad:

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« on: May 05, 2009, 03:17:15 PM »
Man I have bad luck! The girlfriend sunk the boat this weekend on it's first real lake trip the wed before was it's maiden voyage and no problems besides to much oil in the pan. After all the work I've done for 3-1/2 months day and night everyday!  :banghead: :mad: My question is is what are the chances of getting it running again? It went down in Saguaro Lake, AZ on sat. and they can't get it out till this comming sat. thats a week  :banghead: We have located it and the diver said its about 50 feet deep where the oil and gas was still comming up on sun. The motor was running, but just at idle and it happened so fast that it just choked the motor out and went under! (I'm crossing my fingers that it didn't hydrolock it) but with my luck that's probably not possible. I've heard that it's ok to be under the water for a while but when it comes out is when it's crunch time on the motor. I don't even know where to start nor what it may look like when it comes up. it's a ford 460. And any help would be much appreciated!!!!

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: engine compression
« on: May 01, 2009, 01:44:08 PM »
Thanks guys that is exactly whatl I wanted to hear!!!! Might try the Engine Restore heard it works.

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Engine Mechanical / Electrical / engine compression
« on: May 01, 2009, 12:45:05 PM »
I just checked my engine cylinder compression and want to know if this is good compression or so-so and how long till I may need a rebuid. The motor runs just fine just curious. I have a 460 the #'s are as follows 1-120 2-140 3-130 4-135 5-125 6-130 7-130 8-130 I checked them all twice and this was the highest # for each cylinder, also hooked up a manual oil pressure gauge and am getting 55psi at idle. Any help would be appreciated!

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Yeah I will have to try the mechanical i guess and it felt like i was moving for sure. The gauges are the Hardin Marine brand which I dunno if they are good or not but I guess you get what you pay for! Also the volt was only showing 10 volts so I put a multimeter to it and all gauges are getting around 12.69 volts or around there and then the volt just stop working completely so maybe faulty gauges all around but i find that hard to believe! :mad:

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Have no clue what impeller is in it nor did i know that there is a setting on the tach for different cylinders. How do i find out what impeller i have? Also my main concern is how do i know if there is too much or too little oil?  :banghead: Could this be what is causing my oil issue of only 40 psi on the gauge and then when on it down to almost 0 but the boat ran fine i thought all day! A little hiccup when mashing the pedal down but after that she was good never showed hot at all. Also the dipstick is after market cheap chrome but the guy before me must have put the dooley pan on and then stamped it for full at 10 qts with a metal stamper on the dipstick. but it ran on the trailer fine before i changed his jet black oil to good oil at exactly 10 qts which does go right to his full line on the dipstick, but then it started smoking a little out of the valve cover breathers. When on it the smoke gets worse for a while and spits a little out of the dipstick tube? Do i have too much oil or did I not put enough in so its starving? Or worse case are the bearing going out or possibly the rings? I have not done a compression test yet.

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Hi yall kinda new to the jet boat scene and just needed some help on a couple of issues. I have a 20ft. 1979 omega with a 460 and a jaccuzzi wj in it. I have a edelbrock performer 360 intake with an edelbrock 750. Just put a new pertroniks dizzy and coil in it. It has a dooley 10 quart oil pan, dont know what cam. I just took boat out yesterday and the boat feels like its moving good but tach only says its 3000 rpms when we were full bore floored also the oil press guage said around 40 psi when on trailer and stayed that way until im on it then down below 20 too almost a little above 0? all guages are new but senders are not. all new oil 20-50 and 1 quart of Lucas oil stabilizer. I see everybody else is turning at least 4300-5500 anywhere in there so are all my guagues full of shit or is there issues? also white smoke coming out of valve cover holes. Any help would be great. And there is no rope or cat in the jet already checked that! ha!  :banghead: :mad:

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