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Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 18, 2007, 05:37:37 am »
Thanks for the compliments guys. I apprectiate it. Makes me wanna get back at it but that's gotta wait for the weekend

Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 18, 2007, 05:36:50 am »
Really looking good. Do you have some pics of the stand you built? I think i need one of them ;D


Nutz, I really dont have any good pictures. There was really nothing to it though. My boat is a full stringer boat so I just built it so I had a couple 2X6s that spanned the stringers.  Just slap one together and go for it. I love pictures of boats upside down in the garage. 

Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 18, 2007, 05:34:26 am »
Just something to think about.

The boat looks great, way better than anything I've done lately. But I noticed you wetsanded the primer with a 400 grit.

There's a give and take when it comes to sanding primer. The finer sand paper you use, or wetsanding, then the glossier the panit will be with the least amount of orange peel. But if you used 320 grit without wetsand, then the paint would hold to the primer a little stronger, but will have a final outcome of more orange peel.

Like I said it's a give and take, you get shiny, easier to buff paint, but not as strong.

Or stronger paint that's more difficult to wetsand and buff.
Just throwing it out there.

You are doing a bitchin job and doesn't look cheap by any means, I wish I could do something like that!

I really appreciate the advice. I havent done this stuff for 15 years and EVERYTHING has changed. When I was told to wetsand the primer with 400 I did a big gulp too. Seems awfully smooth. I remember the days with you did 220 to scuff it up and call it good. I'll talk to some peeps about the 400 and get back with you. Once again, thanks for the advice......John

Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 17, 2007, 06:48:17 am »
Thanks guys. Yup, it's a one man show (even got it down to where I flip the boat by myself (scary though)). As far as the colors  ;D, you might in deed find something like that! I'm pretty much a keep it simple kind of guy but I gotta admit some of the color combos I see coming out of that Socal gang is pretty damn cool.

Thanks again

Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 16, 2007, 08:31:51 pm »
Thanks Bob. Man would I love that but jezus if you guys could do something about making California a bit shorter, that would help a bunch of us out. Did a road trip down there this summer checking out the beach and by the time we gotdone with all the sightseeing and driving back, it was almost 4,000 miles...........

Thanks again......John

Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 16, 2007, 08:11:35 pm »
Been messing around with some ideas of what to do paint wise. After seeing what the original gelcoat was, I was thinking along these lines.

Punk kid of mine thought this was funny......

I wiped the boat down real well and shot some MP170 epoxy primer to seal up everything real well and then laid some Evercoat Rage Gold on a few areas to get some of the roughness out. Blocked that out and then shot  MP282 2K High Build primer reduced 10% and blocked that down with some 180 grit.
I’ve since followed that up with some wet sanding using 400 grit

By the way, my wife is a gem. That's her trimming the hedge in the back ground while I get to play boat. I havent had to mow the lawn or nuthin since I started this project..... wonder what it's gonna cost me? :eek:

Other than some pin holes in the bottom that I’m currently addressing with some UCS Icing, the bottom is ready to shoot and the sides are damn close and will only need a slight touch up when I get ready to shoot them and the top.
I’ve talked to many folks and pretty much everyone universally recommends a single stage urethane for the bottom. The rest of the boat will be Base Coat / Clear Coat.

Well, that's it for now. Hope you enjoyed the pics......John

Projects / Re: Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 16, 2007, 08:10:36 pm »
With a new pump, new interior and a new shiny  blower motor, the paint was gonna be an issue for me. I was bitching about it when my wife walked into the shop and said “if it’s gonna bother you, why don’t you paint it?”. That did it, that was noon on Sunday and by 4pm it was off the trailer and on a dolly I had just built.

I picked up some 4” razor blades and proceeded to take the paint off. It was pretty easy since there were a number of different paint jobs stacked on top of each other.

Thru this I did find shadows of license numbers from Nevada and Montana so this boat has been bounced around a bit. Wish this thing could talk and tell me of the fun it had back in the day.

I carefully pulled the rubrail off only to find that this boat was seamed so nice that you couldn’t even see a seam at first. The thing looked so sexy that I made the decision it wasn’t going back on.

Here's a closeup picture of the seam where the deck meets the hull. It was this way almost everywhere on the boat.

Through the advice of a number of folks on this board and others, I came up with a plan on how to cap it for good. I used West System epoxy for the entire project and though spendy, it’s really nice stuff.

I took my 4” grinder with a 80 grit flapper wheel and ground into the seam and out approx 2” to 3”. Then I took my little air angle grinder and fine tuned it a bit with a 40 grit speed lock and then finished it with 40”grit on my DA. Right about now is when my wife had to hide the guns cause I just took a cool looking boat and ground the shit out of it……..

Wiped everything down real good with acetone and then wetted the seam out. I followed that with some narrow fiberglass tape and  laid that into the seam. They suggest all kinds of tricks to work the bubbles out but I found  my finger did the best.  I followed that with multiple layers of epoxy mixed with some Colloidal Silica and wider runs of tape till I had only a slight groove left. I filled this in with some epoxy mixed with microballons and smoothed that out. Hot Damn! That looks good.

Ignore my hands in the picture. I put them there so get some contrast so you could see the shape. As far as the ripples, thats just water. This thing is smooooooth.

I also filled the thru the transom exhaust holes, decked the boat of the stern and bow light, fixed some slight cracking on the deck , filled a notch in the gunnel that they had cut to clear the old exhaust and a bunch of miscellaneous holes on the dash..


Projects / Here's my 78 Brendella
« on: September 16, 2007, 08:09:41 pm »
Though we're damn near 2000 miles from Socal and at the request of some of the folks here, I'll offer up my project for grins

We picked up this 78 18’ Brendella in Oregon about  5 years ago as a bit of a basket case. It had a stock big block Chev and a Panther pump. It’s a full stringer boat that looks to be splashed from a Southwind (isn’t everything?) and seemed to be very solid. The motor ran but that was about it, Paint looked good from a distance but was pitiful up close. Interior was really nice except for some cheapo black Astroturf for carpet which I replaced right away.
I put together a nice rumpity 468 balanced big block and  threw some Bassetts on there along with a ton of Stainless Steel lines and ran it in this configuration for a number of years. This thing was as turn key as they come. I know many have struggled with MSD setups but my complete MSD setup worked like a champ. One thing I found out talking to folks is that grounds are a pain on these systems so I ran separate grounds to the box, alternator and starter. Never had a problem.

Here is what it looked like for a number of years we used and abused it.

Unfortunately, like many Panthers, excessive rpms were an issue. Cavatation was a killer for me. No matter what I did I couldn’t get over  67 mph @ 5900 rpm (where I had my rev limiter set)

I had been following the Panther Energizer concept from the initial mockup through the design and into the production and  thought I might give it a try as an alternative to a complete swap of the Panther. I talked Tom at Jet Boat Performance and we came up with a plan.

One of the things that many have told me are an issue with Panthers  is a  limit of around 500hp. With this new Energizer that is no longer an issue so I have started to gather up parts for a new blower motor I had in the back of my mind for awhile. We're stepping it up well over 500hp  ;D.

Since the blower belt will intrude into the seating, I’m gonna have to  fab up some new seating but am going to really try to keep the same style as what it has.


Projects / Re: Project Miller
« on: September 16, 2007, 07:27:45 pm »
Okay Sweetpea, you and Josh have had enough time to get that thing in the water. How bout an update......... ;D

ps.........the Miller looks bitchin.......congrats

Nice boats. Do you remember what you sprayed them with (Singlestage AU or BC/CC)?

Projects / Re: Project Miller
« on: August 25, 2007, 08:31:11 am »
Atta boy Tommy. Good to see this post over here ("iff'n you know what I mean  ;D)

Best of luck and keep after it. I think you're going to start 8 months later than I have and finish 8 months earlier......

Seeya and say hi to Rhonda and Josh for us......John

Let me the first to say that I don't know sh!t.

With that said, I'm deep into this process myself and have spent alot of time talking to a number of folks about paints and what to use where.  For what it's worth, it has been pretty unanomous (sp?) that everyone says to stay away from base coat/clear coat for the bottom. Sides and top, fine but on the bottom they think I'd be much happier with a single stage AU paint. All of them said the BC/CC would scratch easier and most said it also will peel if sprayed on the bottom. One gentleman that paints hydros said that it has been his experiance that the BC/CC does not have the "attaching strength" that a single stage AU has and for speeds in excess of 60 or 70, you increase your risk of peeling back the BC/CC.
Now I will say, most of the folks I talked to assumed a heavy use of the boat. Up here where it's currently pouring rain and 58 degrees (on August sumbitchin 25!  :'() we don't get enough time to use our boats enough for anyone to be classified as "heavy use" but you lucky SOBs down there probably do.  ;)

So, Like I said I don't know nuthin but thought I would share what I have been told through my inquiries. Good luck and take lots of pictures......John

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