SoCal Jet Boats
Classifieds => Project Boats For Sale => Topic started by: old rigger on February 16, 2008, 10:34:20 AM
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Bring you own trailer...
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......and backhoe
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awesome, and its local to us here in Vegas. :screwy:
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looks like lake mead>>>>
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The craziest thing (well I think anyways) about mead goin down is all the old sunk shit we'll see . Could you imagine the stories these boats could tell. "There , I was , floating . In the morning I wasn't :'(" very sad .
-beerjet-
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So that is where I left that ... ;D
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The craziest thing (well I think anyways) about mead goin down is all the old sunk shit we'll see . Could you imagine the stories these boats could tell. "There , I was , floating . In the morning I wasn't :'(" very sad .
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You guy's ever see the German sub by the white pipe crossin the river in Bullhead
they tried to blow up the dam , but didnt make it ;D
2sav
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You guy's ever see the German sub by the white pipe crossin the river in Bullhead
really? a sub?
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i did a quick google and found nothing related to submarines and bullhead city other then theres a company in bullhead that makes a submarine pwc. :screwy:
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really? a sub?
Yes when the water is low enough you can see it
2sav
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That one incredibly great photo !! Tom
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Yes when the water is low enough you can see it
2sav
Are you sure it's not a really big rock combined with an urban legend? :screwy:
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Take some pics 2sav!
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Take some pics 2sav!
I was thinking the same thing yesturday....................But i need a boat :banghead: Years ago i was in the "fishing zone" and had a friend with a little aluminum fishing boat , great for shallow water , we were looking for new places to fish and came accross what we thought was a sunken boat.... found out later it was a 2 man sub that was on its way to blow the dam during the war. I have asked a number of people about it and only a few know about it... why they left it there........dont know.
I would think they would have more info on it.....A 2 man sub trying to blow up the dam during the war! thats history.....isnt it?
2sav
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i love history like that.....thats why i googled it right away.
wonder if the guys are still in it...?
let us know if you find anything more about it.
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Find someone with a jet ski and take some pics of that thing... You've really peaked some interest here 2sav.
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Now im on a mission to find something out about it.......when i was told it was a sub i was at the bullhead museum.....so i believe it. its hard to see in the summer , water is too high. But in the winter its down real low...
2sav
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Now im on a mission to find something out about it.......when i was told it was a sub i was at the bullhead museum.....so i believe it. its hard to see in the summer , water is too high. But in the winter its down real low...
2sav
Good God, you guys are the most gullible bunch I've ever seen, and it's not even April 1st.
So did the Germans come up through Mexico on the river, build up enough speed in their 2 man sub and jump all the other dams that were already in place and built in the 1930s, or did they just truck their submarine across the desert well after they lost the foking war, launch somewhere below Bullhead and try to blow up Davis dam which was finished in 1950-1? ::)
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haha....youre right, i got so wrapped up around the idea that i never considered the timeline of things
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Good God, you guys are the most gullible bunch I've ever seen, and it's not even April 1st.
So did the Germans come up through Mexico on the river, build up enough speed in their 2 man sub and jump all the other dams that were already in place and built in the 1930s, or did they just truck their submarine across the desert well after they lost the foking war, launch somewhere below Bullhead and try to blow up Davis dam which was finished in 1950-1? ::)
Yes, gullible. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I wonder if the sub was lowered from a special stealth blimp? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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haha....youre right, i got so wrapped up around the idea that i never considered the timeline of things
Yeah, that's it, the 'timeline' of things...not to mention that pesky thing called COMMON FOCKING SENSE.
What worries me is that the you guys are the brain thrust behind reviving the whole comp jet deal. What with installing your sterring racks in backwards (and still driving the boat..see, theres that common sense thing again) and all the talk of German subs in the river that's going to be going on this year in the pits, and getting free parts off old sunk T decks, it should be quite a season. :D :D :D
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Yeah, that's it, the 'timeline' of things...not to mention that pesky thing called COMMON FOCKING SENSE.
What worries me is that the you guys are the brain thrust behind reviving the whole comp jet deal. What with installing your sterring racks in backwards (and still driving the boat..see, theres that common sense thing again) and all the talk of German subs in the river that's going to be going on this year in the pits, and getting free parts off old sunk T decks, it should be quite a season. :D :D :D
i typed out a response to this, but just decided it wasn't worth it.....you can be a real ass sometimes.
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Maybe it got mixed up with this?
Lake Mead B-29 Survey: MHP archaeologists and a representative from the NOAA Dive Center joined the SRC to
document two historic sites within the Lake Mead National Recreational Area, Nevada and Arizona. The sites were
an aggregate plant used in the construction of the Hoover Dam and a B-29 Superfortress bomber that crashed into
the lake in 1948. MHP and the SRC are the only two organizations within the Federal Archaeological Program that
routinely use technical diving to document deep water sites
Here is a link with photos and a video http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/contest_88_results.html (http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/contest_88_results.html)
Or this... http://www.lakemeadtechnicaldivers.com/galleries/bikiniatoll.html (http://www.lakemeadtechnicaldivers.com/galleries/bikiniatoll.html)
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I thought it was a Japanese 2 man sub. Dropped in after the war by some of my pissed of cousins who had gotten out of the internment camp. The B-29 crashed after spotting the sub and is actually laying on top of it. Just adding another chapter to the story. :D :D Hey he kindof looks like me ;D
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i typed out a response to this, but just decided it wasn't worth it.....you can be a real ass sometimes.
Oh please re-type it.
Maybe I can add no sense of humor to your list. ;)
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Damn, somebody woke up on the wrong side of the boat this morning ::)
2sav
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i did a quick google and found nothing related to submarines and bullhead city other then theres a company in bullhead that makes a submarine pwc. :screwy:
That's my friends shop. He always tows his damn submarine around just to start conversations with people
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That's my friends shop. He always tows his damn submarine around just to start conversations with people
figures you know that crazy tweaker
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Dont all tweakers tow around submarine's ???
2sav
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i seen the national geographic show on the b-29 pretty interesting it was spotted by global satellite doing regular survey and so they dove down to it and yadda yadda but pretty cool BTW it's in lake mead and the b-29 was testing some thing no one seems to know what it was another governement hidden secret
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A submarine is interesting enough! It doesn't have to be German or Japanese or anything foreign at all. We just wanted to know more about what he was talking about. Just as mysterious as this submarine, is the reason that you jumped the gun with your name calling... If it's not a submarine, we were just curious as to what it is. Inquiring minds are the reason your account still continues to exist on this site. We all want to know something you already know about. You being the senior boat enthusiast/expert-of-all-things boat, I am severely let down by this.
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Good God, you guys are the most gullible bunch I've ever seen, and it's not even April 1st.
So did the Germans come up through Mexico on the river, build up enough speed in their 2 man sub and jump all the other dams that were already in place and built in the 1930s, or did they just truck their submarine across the desert well after they lost the foking war, launch somewhere below Bullhead and try to blow up Davis dam which was finished in 1950-1? ::)
They just painted it like a jet boat and snuck her right in there....
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A submarine is interesting enough! It doesn't have to be German or Japanese or anything foreign at all. We just wanted to know more about what he was talking about. Just as mysterious as this submarine, is the reason that you jumped the gun with your name calling... If it's not a submarine, we were just curious as to what it is. Inquiring minds are the reason your account still continues to exist on this site. We all want to know something you already know about. You being the senior boat enthusiast/expert-of-all-things boat, I am severely let down by this.
well said
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Maybe it got mixed up with this?
Lake Mead B-29 Survey: MHP archaeologists and a representative from the NOAA Dive Center joined the SRC to
document two historic sites within the Lake Mead National Recreational Area, Nevada and Arizona. The sites were
an aggregate plant used in the construction of the Hoover Dam and a B-29 Superfortress bomber that crashed into
the lake in 1948. MHP and the SRC are the only two organizations within the Federal Archaeological Program that
routinely use technical diving to document deep water sites
Here is a link with photos and a video http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/contest_88_results.html (http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/contest_88_results.html)
Or this... http://www.lakemeadtechnicaldivers.com/galleries/bikiniatoll.html (http://www.lakemeadtechnicaldivers.com/galleries/bikiniatoll.html)
Thats pretty cool, in a couple of years you will be able to walk right up to it!
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figures you know that crazy tweaker
Dont all tweakers tow around submarine's ???
2sav
They just painted it like a jet boat and snuck her right in there....
Damn for some stupid reason I can't stop laughing at these short thread jack's. I'm still standing behind my "stealth blimp" theory. I wonder if that sub had a Place Divertor on it, I can dive pretty deep, it's just swimming back up to the surface that gets me a little :screwy:
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figures you know that crazy tweaker
Also has an '02 Riviera that runs 204mph ;D
If you see an Old Chevy truck with a yellow submarine behind it that's him ;)
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Also has an '02 Riviera that runs 204mph ;D
If you see an Old Chevy truck with a yellow submarine behind it that's him ;)
... and it's YELLOW! LMFAO
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A submarine is interesting enough! It doesn't have to be German or Japanese or anything foreign at all. We just wanted to know more about what he was talking about. Just as mysterious as this submarine, is the reason that you jumped the gun with your name calling... If it's not a submarine, we were just curious as to what it is. Inquiring minds are the reason your account still continues to exist on this site. We all want to know something you already know about. You being the senior boat enthusiast/expert-of-all-things boat, I am severely let down by this.
What submarine do you keep referring to? There is no submarine, German, Japanese, American, French, Chinese, Italian, Polish, (although that one would make the most sense). A downed bomber plane that crashed in transport in a lake, not the river, is a far cry from a sub that went up the river to blow up a dam that didn't even exist. The fact that you or anyone else could believe such a thing, no mater how remote the belief, struck me as being very, very funny. When I told my 12 year old daughter about your thoughts of a secret sub in the river sent by the Germans to blow up the dam, the first things she asked was "what about the other dams on the river", so I kinda have to stick by my common sense thing or lack of it.
Hey, maybe down in the sub that's still on the bottom of the river Elvis, JFK (he was a president) Jimmy Hoffa, all playing poker waiting the right moment to re-appear.
By the way, what business is it of yours as to why my account remains on this site? I don't see where it’s got anything to do with you at all. If Brad doesn’t like me teasing him for doing something very stupid, something which we've all done at one time or another (that's called bench racin' by the way) or he's too thinned skinned or to sensitive to be teased about it and he sees fit to ban me from the site, so be it. I have no problem what so ever with that. It's his site; he can do what he like's with it.
And I've never on any board ever said I was the "expert-of-all-things-boat". I've always been up front with my extremely small part in a very big industry, been up front with who I felt built a piece of shit boat and who built a good boat, who was fun to work with and who was great to work with and who was hell to work for. I talked often about my stupid mistakes building boats and see no problem talking about others that do equally stupid things now or in the past. If you don't like what I say in my posts, here or on other sites, don't read them. There are plenty of members here, and on other sites, that I have to completly ignore their posts. Their wild claims, blantent lies, self promoting is too much for me and it pisses me off that the take advantage of some of you. But that is none of my business so I don't comment on it.
Maybe you should do the same.
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Also has an '02 Riviera that runs 204mph ;D
If you see an Old Chevy truck with a yellow submarine behind it that's him ;)
oh ive seen him before he hangs out in all the parking lots in town
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I'm with old rigger! If you believe there is a german sub in the river , I a hundred mile an hour boat off ebay I'll give you a real good price on! :screwy: :screwy: :screwy: ;D
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i dont care if its an old ford pinto....im still curious to know what it is.
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i dont care if its an old ford pinto....im still curious to know what it is.
It looks like i started something i didnt want to start ??? i wasn't joking with you when i said a submarine......
After seeing what i saw and talking to the old man that ran the Bullhead Museum. He is the one that told me it was a 2 man sub, might not have been German but it was a foreign sub.....
Hell maybe i fell for it, but so did alot of others out here...........
This is what i say we do......... We go find it this summer..... Stranger things have happened :screwy:
2sav
I apologize (sp) for starting anything.....
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What submarine do you keep referring to? There is no submarine, German, Japanese, American, French, Chinese, Italian, Polish, (although that one would make the most sense). A downed bomber plane that crashed in transport in a lake, not the river, is a far cry from a sub that went up the river to blow up a dam that didn't even exist. The fact that you or anyone else could believe such a thing, no mater how remote the belief, struck me as being very, very funny. When I told my 12 year old daughter about your thoughts of a secret sub in the river sent by the Germans to blow up the dam, the first things she asked was "what about the other dams on the river", so I kinda have to stick by my common sense thing or lack of it.
Hey, maybe down in the sub that's still on the bottom of the river Elvis, JFK (he was a president) Jimmy Hoffa, all playing poker waiting the right moment to re-appear.
By the way, what business is it of yours as to why my account remains on this site? I don't see where it’s got anything to do with you at all. If Brad doesn’t like me teasing him for doing something very stupid, something which we've all done at one time or another (that's called bench racin' by the way) or he's too thinned skinned or to sensitive to be teased about it and he sees fit to ban me from the site, so be it. I have no problem what so ever with that. It's his site; he can do what he like's with it.
And I've never on any board ever said I was the "expert-of-all-things-boat". I've always been up front with my extremely small part in a very big industry, been up front with who I felt built a piece of shit boat and who built a good boat, who was fun to work with and who was great to work with and who was hell to work for. I talked often about my stupid mistakes building boats and see no problem talking about others that do equally stupid things now or in the past. If you don't like what I say in my posts, here or on other sites, don't read them. There are plenty of members here, and on other sites, that I have to completly ignore their posts. Their wild claims, blantent lies, self promoting is too much for me and it pisses me off that the take advantage of some of you. But that is none of my business so I don't comment on it.
Maybe you should do the same.
You missed the point entirely. The point was, regardless what the object in question is, we would like to know more. You made a very personal attack on us, so I responded accordingly. The "expert-of-all-things-boat" was me stating my opinion of your knowledge. Until 5 minutes ago I held your opinion and thoughts in very high regard. As of right now, I don't know what to think.
No one really knew what it was 2Sav was talking about. Like Brad said, whether it be a Ford Pinto or a submarine the idea of something submerged caught our attention.
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In my post which you so mistakenly took the wrong way... I complimented you then went on to explain my shock in the way you had taken the subject of the submarine. If I offended you, I apologize. Common sense is not the question here. Hell it might be a sewer line for all we know. As for the comment about you not being a part of this site, your interest and knowledge in this area brings a lot of value to this site and our continued questions and genuine interest in your opinion are what draw you back. Re-read my post and I think you'll realize I was not attacking you so much as expressing my shock to your reaction.
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It looks like i started something i didnt want to start ??? i wasn't joking with you when i said a submarine......
After seeing what i saw and talking to the old man that ran the Bullhead Museum. He is the one that told me it was a 2 man sub, might not have been German but it was a foreign sub.....
Hell maybe i fell for it, but so did alot of others out here...........
This is what i say we do......... We go find it this summer..... Stranger things have happened :screwy:sav I apologize (sp) for starting anything.....
Savage, a good friend of mine owns the property on the AZ side of the river where the pipeline crosses there, about 700 feet of river frontage if I'm not mistaken. The pipeline runs right up and over his land which he's only owned for a few years. The story of how he bought it is really cool, but too long to post. I will say this though, it was owned by the same family since the late 1800s and only recently came on the market. My friend and his cousin were just in the right place at the right time. Only problem is it's land locked and they're working with the surrounding land owners (tribal indians, Dept of game and fish and another gov. land owner that I can't think of right now) on putting in a road. The only need 100 feet of land, anyone's land, but so far it's been an up hill battle. Very cool piece of land that will never have neighbors of any kind...and maybe not even a home of his own! :)
Maybe he'd let you set up camp on the beach to do your exploring for whatever is in the river right there? I'll ask him if he's ever seen anything in the water there next time I talk to him.
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In my post which you so mistakenly took the wrong way... Common sense is not the question here. Hell it might be a sewer line for all we know....
Well, I disagree. Not to beat a dead horse, but it is about common sense and when I made my comments no mention was made of any pinto. Savage mentioned not once but twice in two different posts before my 1st post that it was a german sub on a mission to blow up the dam and you guys were all over it. It is very funny, and I'm sure the old desert rat that told savage about it is still laughing too.
One more thing. For years when I was a kid and my family had their place on the river at the wagonwheel trailer park in Bullhead, every Sunday morn, or late Sat. night, the dam would be shut down to a trickle. I don't know if it's done anymore, but it was like that all through the 60s and up to 1971 when we moved to Parker. Come Sunday morning you could walk across the river to the Nevada side at almost any point, and you couldn't put your boat in, or move it outa the mud, until late Sunday afternoon when the water begain to rise again.
I would think that if there was a WWII sub of any kind stuck in the bottom of that river it would have long ago been documented, photographed and recorded and it would have been THE central point of conversation in Bullhead city for the last 5 decades.
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oh! boy all i said was it looked like lake mead....cheeers fellas!
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Hey old rigger , I dont give a fu## about a sub or a rock that looks like one :screwy:. But I got a trailer so wheres that free boat at . ::) ;D
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Sorry, it's already gone. I heard a spaceship swooped down and beam it up in a shaft of light. Looks like even Martians wanna go jet boating. ;)
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Sorry, it's already gone. I heard a spaceship swooped down and beam it up in a shaft of light. Looks like even Martians wanna go jet boating. ;)
Really? :o
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Sorry, it's already gone. I heard a spaceship swooped down and beam it up in a shaft of light. Looks like even Martians wanna go jet boating. ;)
Oh well, I heard it had a hole in it from a torpedo anyway, damm foreign subs :sly:
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i did a quick google and found nothing related to submarines and bullhead city other then theres a company in bullhead that makes a submarine pwc. :screwy:
I just did a google search and did not find anything about a spaceship beaming up a jet boat out of the river so I don't believe you. ;D
Sorry Brad , had to! ;D
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I just did a google search and did not find anything about a spaceship beaming up a jet boat out of the river so I don't believe you. ;D
Sorry Brad , had to! ;D
marc, wheres your fockin common sense?
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marc, wheres your fockin common sense?
I lost that YEARS ago! ;D
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What planet were those fawking martians from.....I want my boat AND sub back ;D
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What planet were those fawking martians from.....I want my boat AND sub back ;D
They're from Saturn. duh
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You guys are funny........... but you are going to shit when i find that sub and call the history channel :o
Im gonna be a star ;D
2sav
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AS 2SAV DRAWS UP THE PLANS FOR A MOCK UP SUB THAT HE WILL SINK AT THE BASE OF THE DAM. WITH AN EVIL LAUGH YOU WILL SEE YOU WILL ALL SEE HA HA HA >:D
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You guys are funny........... but you are going to shit when i find that sub and call the history channel :oIm gonna be a star ;D2sav
Savage in his new ride.
ACHTUNG BABY!
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"I'mz going to blow up ze dam"
That is too funny!!!! ;D
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You could have at least put on some blue stripes like my Bahner has, Geeze ;D
2sav
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NO PRO LIKE ROD BUT HERE IT IS
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haha....i like the
omega and bahner ...too funny
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That's a crack up. I tried, and actually did put 'SS Savage' on the front of the sub but when I tried to post that pic, the name was gone. I don't know what I did wrong, but it wasn't nearly as funny as what Coors did.
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It should say "DAM 2 DAMN !"
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Well with all this going on i took it upon myself to go out and find that sub ;)
Was a long walk, atleast a six pack or so........But i found it, right where i said it was ::)
so i grabbed a pic and made some phone calls. Yep yep ;D
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2sav ::)
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Well with all this going on i took it upon myself to go out and find that sub ;)
Was a long walk, atleast a six pack or so........But i found it, right where i said it was ::)
so i grabbed a pic and made some phone calls. Yep yep ;D
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2sav ::)
::) Hey Marc, what's the real good price you're going to give on that 100 mph eBay boat? ::) :D
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Thats a rock ! :screwy:
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::) Hey Marc, what's the real good price you're going to give on that 100 mph eBay boat? ::) :D
The standard so cal $50 bucks!
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I sat here and watched as alot of you talked smack about 2 Sav and his Sub! Now that it's posted none of you are saying...."gee I was wrong Sav"....what a bunch of pussy's..... >:D
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The standard so cal $50 bucks!
Sweeeet, I'll pay you 3 1/2 weeks from the next Tuesday. :sly: I hope it's not that 100 mph boat Plesh posted with a 2.5 Merc. :banghead:
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I sat here and watched as alot of you talked smack about 2 Sav and his Sub! Now that it's posted none of you are saying...."gee I was wrong Sav"....what a bunch of pussy's..... >:D
WOW you are guilable , that is a picture of a musuem! That he found online!
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I sat here and watched as alot of you talked smack about 2 Sav and his Sub! Now that it's posted none of you are saying...."gee I was wrong Sav"....what a bunch of pussy's..... >:D
2sav, Ill give you $ 50 bucks and a handfull of M&Ms for the sub ;) ;D
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WOW you are guilable , that is a picture of a musuem! That he found online!
wow...youre gullible to believe that he wasnt being sarcastic! ;)
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wow...youre gullible to believe that he wasnt being sarcastic! ;)
Yeah ;D
And MUSUEM is spelled MUSEUM :screwy:
2sav >:D
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BBC peanut port heads for sale, $40
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you guys crack me up....... ;D
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You guys are gonna laugh at me, i just know it for digging up an old thread like this. I'm the gullible one, I know. Terry's gotten me at least twice, and the rest of you have gotten me on various occassions. (I thought Terry was BS'ing me about the Flatty, but lo and behold, Brad gets pics of it).
Someone at work today told me a story about this 'Submarine' (Not MY yellow Submarine, another one apparently), on the river supposedly sent up to blow up a dam of some sort (I was told Hoover dam, but that didn't make sense). Me being me, and with Brad, am infatuated with history. So I do the logical thing, I search here and Google it. Never heard of this before. Heard of the one off the coast of NJ, but not this.
Sounds to me like an urban legend, but, were it not for the B-29 crash in the early 50's under somewhat dubious circumstances, I would leave it at that.
In or about the same time this all supposedly happened, were we not employing Nazi War Criminals to develop the A-Bomb, and after WWII, to perfect it? Whom else did we employ to design? Possibly unmanned and 1 or 2 manned subs we KNOW the Japanese and Germans were woriking on? (The Japanese were actually using them during WWII, quite successfully, I might add, rumours and evidence persist they were used in Pearl Harbor).
The timeline precludes any enemy from doing this, BUT, could it have been a failed US experiment? Would make sense if the sub exists. (I dunno if it does, last post I really read said 2Sav was gonna prove it, and now he has a boat to do so)
My thought is this. IF it exists, and IF it is one of the one or two manned jobs, they were launched from torpedo tubes or aircraft. If we had a B29 crash there, and noone knows what they were doing, well, fill in the blanks. Sounds like a test to me. And consider that German and possibly Japanese engineers were used to design it. And the B29 crash was the result of the test?
How many people know we were using convicted war criminals to develop the A-bomb to begin with? I dunno, thinking out loud.
Lol, Just wanted to toss a new twist on this after I read it. Then again, maybe I'm the idiot I think I am wanting to beleive.
Ray
Again, I should keep my thoughts to myself, lol.
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Thats 2 sav's sub ;D ;D ;D ;D