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Title: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 11, 2007, 05:05:04 PM
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****HELP**** Is it not worth it???  Is the market that bad??  Or do I just suck st sales?
********Quick sale at only $1750 this weekend CASH.******* 1960's Gaylord flat bottom 348 ci like a ?schiada? "V" drive
with trailer( old school tube type). Complete!!!! Just found out the engine #'s put it as a 1959 Chevy Impala engine. In Winchester, Ca. 92596
I was told the 348 was worth around $3000 and that rest of the hardware, trailer, and hull should bring almost $3000 so I hope the reduced price of only $1950 seems fair enough to help me get over a bit of a financial wake in the pond right now. Perfect for the visionary! This has been stored a while but, would be a fantastic restoration project and turn every head at the lake or river, might even give some whiplash at 50+ mph. No papers or tags. Really hate to see her go but, gotta move and there is no room.

Just a family man working hard! Hope you can help. Look for much more soon. Cars (79 VW rabbit diesel $500& 90 Ford Taurus 4 dr.$500), truck (67 Ford F-250 $1100), boats (74 18' Glastron $700), farm equipment, small outboards 6 hspr Johnson & 4 hspr Evinrude), Large Commercial stove "Wolf" $700, household fixtures (water and electric), ceiling fans, clothes, electronics, etc. Call and ask, Selling everything to move! Search under "skinner" in craigslist.org California inland empire search bar.
Thank You for looking!
Shawn (310) 283-0198 Don't let the cell phone # fool you, we are local to the southern Riverside county area!


Thank You very much maybe there is someone who can help us work this all out!!!!!!
Have a great day! :-)
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: beerjet on August 11, 2007, 10:17:14 PM
Do not take this as a bash . This boat is a complete basketcase.  :( I would love to have something like this to restore but this is a boat that has to have every single aspect of it gone over , replaced , or at least removed . To restore a motor like this would take a bunch of time itself . The trailer is a no go also . The boat just all  around has less than desirable parts and hardware . If someone did restore it , it still wouldnt be worth much because of the exsisting hardware that was restored .

Take what I say with a grain of salt . If I were to restore it . The only thing to be reused would be the hull itself . I'm not gonna pay X amount of dollars for a bare hull. The v-drive has to go . Motor has to go . ect. ect. ect. None the less , classic sexy lines . I would hate to see something like this not get back on the water . Good luck whith what ever it is you decide.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 11, 2007, 10:34:04 PM
Thanks   ???  I think   ???
You would scrap that ole' tube trailer??   WOW!
And the 348?? 
I guess I look at her a bit different.  If this is the general view, I'm gonna have to find a way to store her, then do her up right.  When I can :P
I know your shootin' from the hip and........... I really appreciate it!  But WOW!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: beerjet on August 11, 2007, 10:46:34 PM
Brittish , what I am getting at is this is an enormous project and along with the huge amount of time , comes the money . I have more time than money soooo....

That's what this is , a huge undertaking . Store it and maybe one day you will get it done the way you see just . I honestly mean absolutly no malace toward you or your ad . This will be one of the coolest boats around if it gets done right . Tryin to get X amount of dollars for it , well...... :-\
Good luck with it . I honestly hope to see it come back to life one day . A heap or not . Still a very cool boat .

-beerjet
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Blue on August 11, 2007, 10:59:33 PM
I am on Beerjets side on this one. It is all in the eye of the owner. It is a huge project the I would say 80%  of never get completed and sold for way less than you will put into it.
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 12, 2007, 12:29:59 AM
Look around for yourself Britishsteele.

Sanger v-drives complete minus engines, nice modern boats, $1,000 OBO. There's one on HotBoat, fully restored, breathtakingly beutifull, I mean gorgous!!! for $2,750 minus engine, how is yours worth $3,000? It doesn't make any sense.

Go on eBay, look up 348 chevy's, a couple of weeks ago there was a 348 on there for a starting bid of $650, no bids on it, freshly rebuilt, and never sold.

I bought my complete boat in great shape with a tired engine for $1,000, in waaaayyyyyyy better shape than the Gaylord.

The Gaylord doesn't use modern parts, replacement parts will be difficult - at best - to find. Design is old and will be harder to get as fast as a modern hull and modern engine.

The 409's nickname is "boat anchor", no sh!t, the 348 is the exact same as a 409 but smaller, and the 348 is just as heavy, has less HP, and even harder to find parts for.

Once the Gaylord has been fully restored to new, it will never be worth as much as a modern v-drive, ever.

I've told you 3 times that I was the guy who told you your 348 was worth $3,000 and that I was WRONG and I was sorry, but you insist on putting it in your ad for the Gaylord. The only way that hull is worth $3,000 is if it has gold in it, period.

I'm sorry, but your boat isn't worth even close to $1,500 or whatever your asking for it.

How long have you been trying to sell it? Think about it.
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Blue on August 12, 2007, 12:45:20 AM
Wow....Dude ur the Dr. phil of boats
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 12, 2007, 12:38:06 PM
Here is your only chance at getting your $ out of it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280140825303&rd=1

You've got 7 hours to view it so....
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 12, 2007, 02:24:26 PM
Well Doc,
I'm understanding all the logic and I caught the auction, Hell, $750 is almost half of what I'm now asking but, I will have to store her before I could bring myself to start just sellin' parts. 
I restore antique aircraft, from the ground up and I do all the work, cover, glass, paint, stripe, interior, rig etc. so I guess I just don't see this boat as that "much" of a project??  Just me I guess.
As far as the 348 and your first thought of the $3000, I got your note eons ago I just never modified the ad, guess I should! 
BTW ..... At first you were not the only one to say the $3000 price, might depend on where ya are and how bad you need/ want one.
EVERYONE ELSE!  Believe me, I really appreciate the tactless insight and I don't take it wrong, I've been around airports and boats all my life and there has NEVER been any room for thin skin so, it's all good!
Thanks guys!  If ya know anyone I'll just keep the price at the $1750, if she sells it would be nice to see her headed back to the water if not I'll have to find a way to do it myself,  THEN LOOK OUT she might even make a mag. cover or 2 'cause I'll do her up just like the last plane I did.  See below :o
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 12, 2007, 03:50:20 PM
Nice work on the plane, I'd like to part out the plane, can I put the engine in a jet boat and what kind of HP and RPM should I expect? Just kidding, looks great!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 12, 2007, 04:10:50 PM
Wellllll ............. let's see the plane goes for around $65k in one piece but, a fresh engine like that one $22k, then buy the prop., plus the inverted oil system for a couple more grand (just in case you submarine or get into rolls or flips) with the draft you will now have, swingin' a 74" prop. at only 2500 rpm and 150 hspr.  The up side is you can lean her out to around 7 - 9 gph.  Or decrease your draft by throwin' the prop. up top and ya got an air boat.
Thank for the compliment on the plane, she did come out very nice, 1 year full time!  Lots more work and parts than a boat though.
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 12, 2007, 08:05:14 PM
tell me about that '79 rabbit....i might be interested!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 12, 2007, 08:10:36 PM
tell me about that '79 rabbit....i might be interested!

OMFG, quick send Brad some meds or something!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 12, 2007, 08:13:25 PM
OMFG, quick send Brad some meds or something!

yeah, you might think im nuts....but those cars will always hold a place in my heart.
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: beerjet on August 12, 2007, 09:18:35 PM
yeah, you might think im nuts....but those cars will always hold a place in my heart.
Is that the first boat you got laid in or what .  ???

-beerjet-
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 12, 2007, 09:44:08 PM
Let's see she is painted like the american flag and the battery caught on fire and took out a couple of things under the hood but, I bought most of the parts needed and I figure a day and a half she is going again.  I just have not had the time but, she holds a special place 'cause of the paint job I did ???
Whatcha thinkin'?
As far as beerjets, NOPE just a guy that can't stand history killed!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 12, 2007, 09:47:09 PM
few things i need to know...

square or round headlights?

manual or auto tranny? 4 or 5 speed?

1.5 or 1.6 diesel?

hows the interior?

does it run?

i assume the fire was from leaky nozzles? how bad is the damage?
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 12, 2007, 09:58:02 PM
Actually I did a big "NO NO" and rigged an inverter real quick and the hood caught the wire I used as I shut it.  Yea Yea, I know WAY to late and a beer or 2.  Then when I took her out later the wires were charged and the battery didn't like it!  My bad!
It started as I was on the fwy I pulled over and put it out w/ what I had but, the hood insulation was still hot embers and as I took a hard left around the traffic circle the electrolite from the battery went across the compartment. 
Engine ???  I really didn't know there were 2 different kinds, she is 5 speed stick, interior is OK for 30 years old, front tires are brand new the rear ............. OLD.
Whatcha thinkin'????
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 12, 2007, 10:16:14 PM
Dude, with a paint job like that it's worth saving just because.  ;)
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 12, 2007, 10:25:06 PM
Thanks!!!!  That's my heart and this country, fubared as it seems sometimes.
Nice to know someone thinks it's cool!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 12, 2007, 10:46:50 PM
When you get a chance....post up some more pictures of it....front, back, interior, under the hood, etc.

Yes, there is several motors they had for those diesel rabbits...i think the 1.6 turbo diesels didnt come out until the mk2 generation, but it was a common swap into the rabbits.

I used to own a '79 1.5L diesel 2 door rabbit with a 4 speed manual tranny

I sold it a little over a year ago.

The one on the left is a rolling shell of a '84 Rabbit GTI that I had.....it had a full roll cage in it. The one on the right is the Diesel. This picture was taken about a year before I sold it and lots of work done to it. I cant find the pictures I took of it just before it sold.

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And this is what my diesel looks like now (new owner)....the guy put some real nice finishing touches on it.

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Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 12, 2007, 10:56:00 PM
I'll get ya some more pix and info in the a.m.!
Title: Re: The Gaylord flatty, You as tired of seein' as I am posting?? Open for ideas!
Post by: Brittishsteele on August 14, 2007, 10:41:01 PM
Sorry I'm a flake!   Soooooo much goin' on right now!
I'll work on that as soon as my mom goes back home!
Great visit but, hampers work
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