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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: JordanDangerfield on June 13, 2016, 08:09:29 AM
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Well, yesterday I tripped and fell into a '72 Rogers Cyclone. My plan is to put it back together, clean it up, and get it back on the water. It has been sitting, covered in a garage since '92. It came with a stack of receipts dating back to '81 when the previous owner bought it from the original owner. The boat looks like it was taken care of through the years.
It came with an old Berk service manual and the Mondello guide to building a 455. So, maybe this Olds was build to last. I haven't got a boat with this detailed of records before.
I thought it was cool that it came with the original ski racks. Those are usually long gone. It also has the rope step that flips over the side of the boat.
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Future Comp Jet?
Good candidate there.
Dan'l
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VERY COOL 8) :thumbup:
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that is bad ass jordan
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Very nice man !!!!! Ive got a 68 cyclone and I love it !!!!
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Question for the Rogers gurus. What's the difference between the Cyclone and the Super Cyclone?
I dug into the boat a little and gave her a quick bath.
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Question for the Rogers gurus. What's the difference between the Cyclone and the Super Cyclone?
I dug into the boat a little and gave her a quick bath.
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I am not an expert. But on my Cyclone, the top deck does not "fade" back to the transom like that. I have a noticable "lip"
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Very cool find
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I am not an expert. But on my Cyclone, the top deck does not "fade" back to the transom like that. I have a noticable "lip"
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20160517_183552_zpslm6z501h.jpg&hash=cea5b19dc6f157eec26983a366764bb35b2e31aa) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160517_183552_zpslm6z501h.jpg.html)
Mine is like yours as well, only mine has been capped so its smooth, no rub rail. I also do not know what the difference is between the cyclone and super cyclone.
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Mine is like yours as well, only mine has been capped so its smooth, no rub rail. I also do not know what the difference is between the cyclone and super cyclone.
I think it's in the bottom
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I think I have a Super Cyclone. It's the Bonneville bottom with the Cyclone deck. The Cyclone bottom has the deeper entry V and the deck lines you guys mentioned. I don't know of any other differences.
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Question for the Rogers gurus. What's the difference between the Cyclone and the Super Cyclone?
I dug into the boat a little and gave her a quick bath.
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I want to say the length
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What does rope step look like. My ski racks are not bent, those look custom. Nice find congrats
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Question for the Rogers gurus. What's the difference between the Cyclone and the Super Cyclone?
I dug into the boat a little and gave her a quick bath.
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From 76 Bonneville in another thread:
The 18's and 19's have completely different bottoms, but that might not be a concern, both are good.
Not sure how you're going to use the boat. From the cockpit stand point. That foot difference in overall length is all in the back seat.
That being said, if you plan using the back seat, I'd stick to a 19' TR.
Unless you go to an 18' Super Cyclone (flat deck) you'll get the back seat back.
The 18' Super Cyclone and 18' Bonneville share the same bottom.
When Roger made the bubble deck it took 6" or 8" out of the cockpit.
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What does rope step look like. My ski racks are not bent, those look custom. Nice find congrats
This is the rope step.
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That is cool. Dont think it would hold my fat ass lol
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I ended up with another hoopty in the driveway. I picked this one up for the trailer. My GF's dad needed a replacement for his current jet ski trailer as well as room for another sit down and stand up so this rig was the perfect candidate. It came with some good parts which is a plus. My neighbors must love me...We have an HOA so I'm expecting a letter.
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Haven't made much progress since I've been on vacation for a week and a half. I should make some good progress this week. I buffed a small section earlier to see how she would shine up.
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These fiberglass tanks have to go!
I'm on the hunt for round stainless or aluminum tanks.
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These fiberglass tanks have to go!
I'm on the hunt for round stainless or aluminum tanks.
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my first rogers had those... cut those fukers right out
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my first rogers had those... cut those fukers right out
What tanks are you running in your current Rogers?
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What tanks are you running in your current Rogers?
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rectangular aluminum tanks that were in it. They are glassed in
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I pulled a pair of stainless tanks out of storage. Looks like they'll fit perfectly. I just need to figure out how to mount the straps. Does anyone have pics of how theirs are mounted?
I found good deal on a Holley 850 with mechanical secondaries so I picked that up. Looks to be in good shape. It was rebuilt then sat for a few years so luckily there's no crappy gas inside. I need to figure out the correct jets and power valves for my application.
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http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/saddle-tank-mounting/msg156671/#msg156671 (http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/saddle-tank-mounting/msg156671/#msg156671)
I posted an article from Hot Boat about a trick way to mount the tanks. It's pretty invovled but it's super clean.
The boat's cleaning up real nice. I like the paint scheme, but wasn't a fan of the candy corn colors. Now, they're really growing on me. :thumbup:
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All I see when I look at the boat now is candy corn!! Haha
That article is great. That's exactly what I'll do. Thanks for the link!
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I'm sure when you're done, all you'll see a bitchen boat.
I'm looking forward to watching this build. :thumbup:
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I got the kiddo involved today. The motor and old tanks are coming out tomorrow.
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Fiberglass tanks are out, motor is out, and bilge is cleaned up. The tanks are at Johnny's getting new filler necks.
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I haven't worked on the boat recently because I've been on tour since July, but I'm home for a couple months so game on! I picked these headers up today. Thanks again Gavin! They'll look and sound a hell of a lot better than logs so I'm stoked.
I'm on the hunt for covers for the exhaust holes if anyone has any laying around.
Before installing the block off plates, what's the proper way to seal the old exhaust holes and bolt holes? Should the exhaust holes be sanded and fiberglassed? Should the bolt holes be drilled and doweled like a stringer hole would be filled? In case the block off plates leak I don't want to create an issue for my self or the next owner by ruining the transom wood.
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I was wondering what was up with this. :thumbup:
Would you cut some plywood and glass it in to fill the exhaust hole itself, like gauge holes on a dash?
I think it would be OK even if you just resined the inside of the holes themselves.
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I was hoping to be farther along by the end of today, but it was raining and too cold to do fiberglass work. Everything is prepped for the tanks and I plugged a few holes in the stringers. I added gauge sending units to the tanks.
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Fuel tanks are in.
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The bilge is finished and ready for the motor to go back in. I filled the speedo and exhaust bolt holes. The exhaust holes I left open for now and I'm going to run cover plates. The carb is in pieces and about to go in chem-dip.
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Does anyone have any Place Diverter steering pins laying around that they want to sell me? They were missing when I got the boat.
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Never mind. I found some!
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Motor is in and the carb is rebuilt.
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Looking good man
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Looking good man
X2.
Does that Mondello folder have a build sheet or is it just a guide?
Any idea about the internals of the motor?
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I went through some of the paperwork again. No exact build sheet, just receipts. Here are the few that have the most info about the motor. It looks like the previous owner built the motor according to the Mondello guide.
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I scanned the Mondello guide for anyone that's interested.
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I forgot page 23.
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Does anyone have a steering tube laying around that they want to sell me??
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Does anyone have a steering tube laying around that they want to sell me??
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I do have 6 or 7 to choose from $25 shipped.
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I do have 6 or 7 to choose from $25 shipped.
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Thanks for the offer. Good price too! I found one last night.
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Almost in one piece!
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Looks amazing Jordan! Can't wait to see it out
BECKY WITH THE GOOD HAIR!
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Nice job Jordan , it has a sweet looking profile to it. Eye catcher foo shoo!!
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Does anyone know what size the reverse cable packer washers are or what they're called in a non-jet boat application? It's a non locking split washer. I want to find them at a hardware store if possible because they are a $.02 part. I have the reverse cable packer nut and grommet, but not the washers.
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Jordan are you talking about a star washer?
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It's not a star washer. I didn't realize the water mark covered the washers in the pic.
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It's not a star washer. I didn't realize the water mark covered the washers in the pic.
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Here's a small pro tip. If you're looking for a nice thru transom seal then go to your local electrical supply store instead of spending $35+ with a retailer like CP or settling for a cheesy version. I picked this up from American Electrical Supply in Corona for under $5. It's called a cable gland or strain relief. This one is made by Appleton and they call it a cord grip.
I decided to run the diverter cable through the TA rather than drilling an additional hole in the fiberglass.
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Here's a small pro tip. If you're looking for a nice thru transom seal then go to your local electrical supply store instead of spending $35+ with a retailer like CP or settling for a cheesy version. I picked this up from American Electrical Supply in Corona for under $5. It's called a cable gland or strain relief. This one is made by Appleton and they cal it a cord grip.
I decided to run the diverter cable through the TA rather than drilling an additional hole in the fiberglass.
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Yeah. McMaster Carr carries them too. They also carry a nice billet looking one that's "low profile submersible"
The only down side for me was the 75.00 1/2npt drill and tap
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Here's my solution to the cable packer washers. M10 flat washers are the perfect size. I just needed to clip it in half to bend it around the cable.
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Waiting on this rain to clear up for a shakedown run!
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Waiting on this rain to clear up for a shakedown run!
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. Looks good give us a update on Elsinore when you do your shake down.
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. Looks good give us a update on Elsinore when you do your shake down.
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The plan was the head out to Perris, but with all this rain I want to give Elsinore a shot. This last week probably added another foot.
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Waiting on this rain to clear up for a shakedown run!
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is that primer above the transom cover?
Might come off with some reducer or somehting
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is that primer above the transom cover?
Might come off with some reducer or somehting
It is. There's another spot above it to the left too. I'll try it out.
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I got her out in the sun today.
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