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Mrblueeyesnick

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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #250 on: May 26, 2015, 09:15:55 PM »

atta boy!!

dont forget to round corners over..... 8)
Oh trust me, I won't forget. Now that I have done it twice I have a step by step list.lol


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #251 on: May 27, 2015, 05:24:52 AM »
Looking good
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #252 on: May 27, 2015, 05:54:10 AM »
👍👍 gonna have it done for Father's Day??


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #253 on: May 27, 2015, 09:41:29 AM »

👍👍 gonna have it done for Father's Day??


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I'm hoping, I would love to get out there with you guys.


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #254 on: May 27, 2015, 08:49:05 PM »
Stringers are set!!! A successful day.


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #255 on: May 27, 2015, 09:45:57 PM »
Hey...your using the wrong bricks. They Should be round bricks..... >:D :P
Nah.... I'm just jerking your chain.

Way to stay at man!   seriously....  8)
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #256 on: May 27, 2015, 11:25:27 PM »

Hey...your using the wrong bricks. They Should be round bricks..... >:D :P
Nah.... I'm just jerking your chain.

Way to stay at man!   seriously....  8)
Thanks bud, trying to make Father's Day. So I have to keep at it. Just can't wait to get the engine in and hear it run again.


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'79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #257 on: May 30, 2015, 06:54:17 PM »
I got the weight off of the stringers. I filled the the corners. All I have left to do is round the top corners and lay glass. I'm almost done with the stringers lol


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #258 on: May 30, 2015, 09:24:56 PM »
Looking good Nick
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #259 on: May 30, 2015, 10:47:34 PM »

Looking good Nick
Thanks bud, can't wait to get r done


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #260 on: May 31, 2015, 08:33:49 PM »
Got all the edges rounded. A little bit of sanding in the morning and then glass will be going on. It's been a long time coming but it's almost done.


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #261 on: May 31, 2015, 08:37:06 PM »
Got all the edges rounded. A little bit of sanding in the morning and then glass will be going on. It's been a long time coming but it's almost done.


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Do you have a squeegee roller? Be careful to get as much air out as humanly possible while laying her up....

Get after it son....    8)

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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #262 on: May 31, 2015, 08:41:59 PM »


Do you have a squeegee roller? Be careful to get as much air out as humanly possible while laying her up....

Get after it son....    8)

GT
I don't have a squeegee roller, I am just using brushes, I have been warned about air bubbles and I am going to take my time and make sure everything is done right. I'm kind of a perfectionist. I guess that comes from me being a perfectionist on welding and fitting lol. I want to get this thing done so I can enjoy it on the water not looking at it in my garage lol


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #263 on: May 31, 2015, 08:46:36 PM »
I don't have a squeegee roller, I am just using brushes, I have been warned about air bubbles and I am going to take my time and make sure everything is done right. I'm kind of a perfectionist. I guess that comes from me being a perfectionist on welding and fitting lol. I want to get this thing done so I can enjoy it on the water not looking at it in my garage lol


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Go grab some Bondo plastic spreaders from the auto parts store.... Get the air out.

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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #264 on: May 31, 2015, 08:47:19 PM »

Go grab some Bondo plastic spreaders from the auto parts store.... Get the air out.

GT
Will do thanks for the tip gt


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #265 on: May 31, 2015, 08:49:43 PM »



These badboys, they won't break the budget...

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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #266 on: May 31, 2015, 08:52:14 PM »
I'll be looking for stringer material soon. Mind if I ask how much they cost ya? Where did you get them?

Good point about roller. While not required....it makes the job soo much easier...thereby quicker. Rollers can be a little spendy. I've seen someone make there's....threaded rod bent to shape. Some washers.... one bigger than the other and alternating in size when putting them on rod. So, big then small then big then small, etc. Nuts at either end to keep it together. Seem to work well....costs less than 15-20 for a roller.
Food for thought....

The spreaders worke well too. I was once told by a builder....to only drag spreader in one direction , which ever direction....particularly with mat. Said it helped to keep fibers down and not pulling over themselves when changing directions... cloth is different. 

Looking forward to final product....
Stop posted....start laying glass....
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #267 on: May 31, 2015, 08:58:33 PM »
I'll be looking for stringer material soon. Mind if I ask how much they cost ya? Where did you get them?

Good point about roller. While not required....it makes the job soo much easier...thereby quicker. Rollers can be a little spendy. I've seen someone make there's....threaded rod bent to shape. Some washers.... one bigger than the other and alternating in size when putting them on rod. So, big then small then big then small, etc. Nuts at either end to keep it together. Seem to work well....costs less than 15-20 for a roller.
Food for thought....

The spreaders worke well too. I was once told by a builder....to only drag spreader in one direction , which ever direction....particularly with mat. Said it helped to keep fibers down and not pulling over themselves when changing directions... cloth is different. 

Looking forward to final product....
Stop posted....start laying glass....


If you have ever done concrete, the method is similar. Tap the end of the spreader into the fresh mat and push the bubbles to the direction of the end of the glass, not to the corner. Once the glass is clear you can squeegee the surface flat. I keep a rag with resin wax on it handy to wipe onto the squeegee, it seems to prevent the dragging of the mat/cloth.

I have four different rollers, once you use them, you become addicted to them... They typically run about $25 each... I try to catch sales...

If you absolutely cannot get out all the bubbles, you can always wait until it cures and grind them out and patch it up... Done it myself. You'll be fine.

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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #268 on: May 31, 2015, 09:18:16 PM »
Also....the spreaders help.....spread resin, duh.  So you can pour the resin over glass....like in a line going down stringer ...and use spreader to push resin into glass....and move it along down stringer. It can help speed layup time....so you get more down per batch of resin. Remember than resin is weak without glass...or other reinforcement. Too much resin is about as bad as too little. I looking for uniform color...if all glass is saturated it looks a little see thru....
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Mrblueeyesnick

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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #269 on: May 31, 2015, 10:11:13 PM »
Thanks guys for all the tips. Jarvis the epoxy I used was from aero marine products. Www.aeromarineproducts.com prices are on the page, I had to buy more because of my mess up but I ended up buying a total of 6 gallons, 3 gallons of it is $170 w/o pumps $181 with pumps. They carry the cabosil, csm and the matte. Everything you need they have.


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #270 on: June 01, 2015, 12:25:54 AM »
Thanks guys for all the tips. Jarvis the epoxy I used was from aero marine products. Www.aeromarineproducts.com prices are on the page, I had to buy more because of my mess up but I ended up buying a total of 6 gallons, 3 gallons of it is $170 w/o pumps $181 with pumps. They carry the cabosil, csm and the matte. Everything you need they have.


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thank you for this!  ive been to aeromarine....good company, my experience.  not sure if you posted you were using epoxy...but as you know, you cant vary the mix ratio to speed or slow gelling...or curing.  when you mix epoxy in a cup....and leave it there...it tends to get hot....and ends up gelling prematurely.
if you dump the resin out in....say a tray...the resin spreads out and is less likely to heat up and prematurely gel.  ive lost several batches before learning this trick.  epoxy aints cheap, nah-mean!  ;)  if your quick, no need to worry....but if you dipping your brush, then applying to glass....you may run into premature gelling.
epoxy is a little runny...tends to run down vertical surfaces...leaving glass a little starved...and pooling at the bottom.  just something to be aware of, if youre not already   ^-^
(sorry if im back seat driving on your build)

however....i was referring to the wood you used.....for stringers.   ;D
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #271 on: June 01, 2015, 01:32:04 AM »

thank you for this!  ive been to aeromarine....good company, my experience.  not sure if you posted you were using epoxy...but as you know, you cant vary the mix ratio to speed or slow gelling...or curing.  when you mix epoxy in a cup....and leave it there...it tends to get hot....and ends up gelling prematurely.
if you dump the resin out in....say a tray...the resin spreads out and is less likely to heat up and prematurely gel.  ive lost several batches before learning this trick.  epoxy aints cheap, nah-mean!  ;)  if your quick, no need to worry....but if you dipping your brush, then applying to glass....you may run into premature gelling.
epoxy is a little runny...tends to run down vertical surfaces...leaving glass a little starved...and pooling at the bottom.  just something to be aware of, if youre not already   ^-^
(sorry if im back seat driving on your build)

however....i was referring to the wood you used.....for stringers.   ;D
Sorry I miss read lol, I used clear kiln dried Douglas fir, it was $100 for two 2"x6"x12'. They were around $47 a piece. I got them from ganahl lumber in corona. They have several locations http://www.ganahllumber.com


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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #272 on: June 01, 2015, 07:34:54 AM »
I hate to say this. Most epoxies don't play nice with mat.
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #273 on: June 01, 2015, 10:27:40 AM »
Sorry I miss read lol, I used clear kiln dried Douglas fir, it was $100 for two 2"x6"x12'. They were around $47 a piece. I got them from ganahl lumber in corona. They have several locations http://www.ganahllumber.com


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There's a location by me. That's where I was going to go too...

Gt is right....
Some epoxys have a bard time breaking down the binder used in mat to keep all the hairs together. This makes it hard for mat to conform to corners, etc. The glass is still saturated. Just the binding agent makes the mat "stiff" and not conform....so air gaps are made.  Give aeromarine a call....I don't remember if their epoxy association compatible with mat.  Cloth is fine, no issues.
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Re: '79 Nordic bubble deck
« Reply #274 on: June 01, 2015, 01:29:29 PM »
Nick, sent you a pm...
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