SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: jet boat performance on January 25, 2008, 10:42:05 AM
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We have always been facinated with Small Jet boats ,after talking to Undone this week regarding some recent events in the Jet boat world . I've decided to post up this "project" from early 2001. We ,JBP had a close relationship for several years and Aggressor Jets & Dave gave us the opportunity to buy one of a limited quantity of small tunnel hull boats He was producing at that time .
This was literally a Bare Hull,nothing but fiberglass! It came shipped to us on a pallet "atop" what later became Joshs 16' Beezer and trailer. I don't remember all the details but the boat design bottom was similar to a small daytona and the top I belive Dave used to call it a "Family deck". Several folks had and rigged these little boat I belive including maybe Tom Papp and Jim @ Cyclone Marine. It was a great fun project for us the boat ran 80 with the second motor. I originally rigged it with a ZZ4 350 crate motor then when Josh decided to go SB Ford I swapped out for his Dual carb "double throw down" 350 cu aluminum head motor from the Beezer More pics and info to follow Tom
note : the Nor cal guy that bought this boat from me swapped the sbc fo a big Mopar wedge with a "blow thru" supercharger and reportedly runs over 100 at CFW (scarey ???)
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You have any pics of the hull as you progressed through the build?
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Looks like a fun ride! ;D
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SIK! :o
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Nice , I saw one at elsinore with a small block in it . Cool little deals .
-beerjet-
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Where and what is CFW I see it all the time but am too dumb to figure it out.
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Where and what is CFW I see it all the time but am too dumb to figure it out.
CFW is Camp Far West Lake...its north of sac town....it usually has a huge gathering of lake/river rods on new years and fathers day weekend.
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Ya kinda gotta expect to go real fast if ya put a Mopar in your ride. ;D
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BTW I was a "Mopar" tech and Svc mngr for 8 years ;)
Heres some more progressions of the Allusion for you folks:
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That is an awesome boat Tommy but I wanna know who the skinny kid in the background looking at the white Beezer hull is..... Those are great pictures. Thanks for posting
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LOL thats my best Buddy @about 17 in his "wife beater T" ;D ;D
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LOL thats my best Buddy @about 17 in his "wife beater T" ;D ;D
I know the feeling..... It's good to have a son that has the same interests you his pops. I consider myself VERY lucky...
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I believe that was also the first and last time I wore a wife beater in public. And yet another embarassing moment(quoting a country song), but "I'm much too young to feel this damn old". Those pictures feel ancient
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In the same boat with you Josh... Feel the same way all the time, especially with all the arthritis, torn ligaments/tendons, compacted disks in my neck goes on and on. Can't wait to see more of that little sucker. Hopefully things work out and you'll be seeing another one on the water.
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especially with all the arthritis, torn ligaments/tendons, compacted disks in my neck goes on and on.
??? guess I cant complain, except for the grey hairs that keep popping out from trying to potty train my lil girl
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haha. You guys planning on joining us at the get-together in Parker?
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We'll see what happens, looks like it would be fun
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That would be nice, I'd really like to see that Bezer in person. Depending on what happens down this way maybe that will happen sooner than Parker. ;D
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??? guess I cant complain, except for the grey hairs that keep popping out from trying to potty train my lil girl
Pay backs a bitch wild boy ;D love ya DAD
just to show you guys my kids have been boaters for a long time !!
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Back to the Allusion these are the jet install and Crate ZZ motor:
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Tom, All you are doing is making several of us wish we could have one. :) Greg
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true that ;D When I saw this, I wanted it! That little boat would fit in my toybox! That would mean that I could take two boat and a trailer to the river, that would be cool.
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cfw is my boating place=i will have to keep a lookout for this if its still around=and yes we had a big hoopdadoo on jan 1 about a 100 boats and alot of spectators
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I like it! Tom if it's not too top secret what is that you painted the bottom of that boat with, or did it just clean up that good ? Wow either way! BTW is that crate a drop in, or did you have to "loosen" her up a bit?
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So you really didn't do anything crazy with the pump or anything huh? From what I'm seeing the potential with that hull is incredible. Hopefully all works well... You've got me really excited now. As for the guys who want one of these. There just might be hope.
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Guys this boats an absolute thrill ride ,re: CFW I have a pic of it now but I'm savin it ,Kreg re the ZZ they make 350 hp @5200 rpms (single carb N/A ) out of the box ,this was in a roadster my Bud at a GM DLR replaced it for a coolant leak /warranty I bought it at that time for 1500 bucks Alu heads roller etc Ran it "as is" (Until the Josh special) Plesh ,one could go in the Toy bx for the early morning run !! At some point I'll put up the Vid of the 7:00 am San Antonio run Tom
*Undone the jet was bone stock ,at that time i started with an Aggressor A and I did use Daves low pro intake
* re the paint I think it was just "Zolotone" trunk paint (google Zolotone)
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lovin it more with each picture I see.
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One of these, or a Bezer (whatever that stands for) in a 16' model would be great fun. Small black and go fast. ::)
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It gets better ,damn I'm starting to mis it :'(
I'll work on the Beezer info later ,maybe do a Beezer thread ?
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Hey Tom, was the joint between the hull and the deck as open as it appears in the photos? Greg
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Just add to Josh's thread. Everyone already know's where that thread is at.
No fear Tom, you may just have to babysit another one for a while.
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WOW! I just did a Google search and found this. http://www.teshio.com/JetBoat/allusion.htm The link doesn't work but it's cool to find this.
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WOW! I just did a Google search and found this. http://www.teshio.com/JetBoat/allusion.htm The link doesn't work but it's cool to find this.
Cool Greg I'd forgoton about that T
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Heres a few more (undone I found a pic of the dual drive one i think too) Tom
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WOW! I just did a Google search and found this. http://www.teshio.com/JetBoat/allusion.htm The link doesn't work but it's cool to find this.
Link works!
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I'd love to see some pics, the dual drive is the one im looking at. Her name as of now is "sling shot."
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ID CALL HER DOUBLE TROUBLE ;D
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ID CALL HER DOUBLE TROUBLE ;D
Two pumps , and a quiver .....
-beerjet-
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Found a few more pics of the Allusion today,plus a Vid !
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Did you say video?
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Yes the vid how ever is crappy (but entertaining) its dubbed from my TV screen ,its was taken about 7 Am I blew a hand hole cleen out at a about eighty (watch towards the end of the run) ::)(wasn't the first time) took a little R&D to figure out the problem ;D Tom
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oh shoot. Looks like she's pretty well mannered at 80...
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Cool rooster, LOL, I need to design something like that. :D
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Cool rooster, LOL, I need to design something like that. :D
Maybe a pop off that shoots straight up :P The funny thing is the boat would still go until he dropped it to an idle then it lost prime and would go anywhere :banghead:
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Cool rooster, LOL, I need to design something like that. :D
Old Place never thought about something like that! Now that's what I call a diverter! ;D ;D ;D
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Old Place never thought about something like that! Now that's what I call a diverter! ;D ;D ;D
how much to modify mine to do that ;D ;D
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Hello i am a new member to the website and i just discovered your thread about the 16 ft allusion. I am the current owner of this amazing boat and am very happy you posted some history on this boat. I purchased this boat from my friend the man who had the chysler wedge with a blow through system. This little boat currently has a bbc 454 with a procharger system on it. this boat does do over 100mph and accelerates so hard you can feel your eyes being pushed back in their sockets.I am looking forward to sharing some pics and info on the evolution of this beast.
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Welcome to SCJB ;D
If you follow through with pics and story line you should get an award for the best revival of a long dead thread ;) :thumbup:
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Hey pal my first post ever on one of these forums should i have started a new thread or what. Maybe a little help instead of being such a smart ass.
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Start a new thread I'm interested in listening and learning about yor boat, kinda like a 16ft Texas tunnel.