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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #175 on: May 04, 2008, 04:48:33 PM »
Just finished wiring the dash. Hope its right, everything is soldered and shrink wraped.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #176 on: May 04, 2008, 04:52:44 PM »
Wow, thats nice and clean............Ive seen some that were a rats nest..Thats how i want to do mine.

Looking good..
2sav
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #177 on: May 04, 2008, 10:35:53 PM »
Thanks 2sav, I've probably got 8 hours into what you see there. I was going to use the old loom but son started giving crap about doing it right and soldering instead of crimping. In the long run i'm sure this will be better and it will out last me.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #178 on: May 05, 2008, 07:24:47 AM »
Thanks 2sav, I've probably got 8 hours into what you see there. I was going to use the old loom but son started giving crap about doing it right and soldering instead of crimping. In the long run i'm sure this will be better and it will out last me.

See even young punks know what there talking about some times!!! Looks pretty good ron! Did you happen to draw out a wiring diagram for future refrence? Probably a good idea then just stick it in with all the paper work. It will probably come in handy down the road. Looks good though. We need to find you a mock up engine so you can get everything laid out while the real ones being built. I thought of that last night about 2:30, fugured it was to late to call. haha
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #179 on: May 06, 2008, 07:22:36 PM »
Just finished wiring the dash. Hope its right, everything is soldered and shrink wraped.

Beautiful craftsmanship!!!!  Would you like to come north for a little vacation/work???? ;D
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #180 on: May 06, 2008, 08:22:38 PM »
 Thanks John, You know how it is. You start out thinking this is good enough, but you know you can do it better or cleaner. So why not do it to the best of your abilities. It may not be as good as the guys that do it everyday but I'm happy with it. I see you doing the same thing with your project, these are boats we are going to have for a long time no need to take short cuts.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #181 on: May 06, 2008, 09:05:55 PM »
Just finished wiring the dash. Hope its right, everything is soldered and shrink wraped.

Nice job...  and I just got done with mine....  I think I need to go back see what more I can do.   Greg
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #182 on: May 07, 2008, 06:29:08 AM »
looks good

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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #183 on: May 17, 2008, 10:58:58 PM »
Lookin good! Very clean and like I said, I LOVE the orange color! It was good to see you today and thanks again for the great deal and trucking the interior all the way to Havasu for me!
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #184 on: June 01, 2008, 09:59:20 PM »
Layed some carpet down today. Now we've got some contrast going on.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #185 on: June 01, 2008, 10:01:14 PM »
 ;D
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #186 on: June 01, 2008, 10:02:53 PM »
Daaaaaaaamn , that looks sexy as hell !

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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #187 on: July 13, 2008, 08:17:41 PM »

I dont mean to sound stupid, but if you build a motor to 12-1 compression do you change the the heat range of the spark plugs? I was going to run the magnito that came with the boat but the MSD setup looks like the way to go.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #188 on: July 13, 2008, 08:33:35 PM »
If you don't know someone that has a similar setup, I would ask your machine shop for suggestions.

I would do a plug inspections after cam break-in, first 20-30 min on water and with any major carb adjustment. 
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #189 on: July 13, 2008, 08:45:13 PM »
Run the stock autolite plug. no special plugs at all. gap it to 35. double check with the msd book on the gap but that should bve close
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #190 on: July 13, 2008, 08:49:45 PM »
If you don't know someone that has a similar setup, I would ask your machine shop for suggestions.

I would do a plug inspections after cam break-in, first 20-30 min on water and with any major carb adjustment. 

X2

 The spark plug heat range will definately change, the gap changes also, speak to someone who has something similar. My 468 10.5:1 runs AC R43TS plugs gapped at .032 with an MSD 6AL and Pro Billit dist. Running 104 Rocket Brand and 91 octane pump gas (50/50 mix) Seems really close.
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #191 on: July 13, 2008, 09:52:51 PM »
This is just an old school 427 but with the compression its got I figure it will require 110 octane. The plugs that were in it are R45XLS, is that hotter or colder than R43's?
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #192 on: July 13, 2008, 10:12:40 PM »
AC and Champion #'s are higher the hotter, a 45 would be the "stock" plug for that motor more than likely, I don't see a problem with running them, but the gap would change from stock due to the High output of the ignition sys. That 427 probably had points ignition.
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Ray

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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #193 on: July 13, 2008, 10:36:13 PM »
Had this in the 'puter pretty helpful...its from MSD tech. assist.

Spark Plugs
Choosing the correct spark plug design and heat range is important when trying to get all the performance possible. Since there are so many engine combinations and manufacturers, MSD cannot recommend which plug or what size gap is exactly right for your car. It is recommended to follow the engine builder’s or manufacturer’s recommendations for plug heat range and gap. Once a proper plug is selected, you can experiment with the gap to get the best performance. By using these recommendations as a starting point, you can experiment by opening the gap in 0.005" increments then
test. When the performance falls off, the gap is too large. Carbureted or fuel injection engines can use larger gaps, but turbo or supercharged engines should stick with
the smaller gap. If no significant gains are achieved, go with the smaller gap. Remember, the larger gap taxes the plug, wires, cap and rotor. After changing the gap, reading the spark plugs is a helpful tool in getting the right tune up. The air/fuel ratio and how it’s burning can be read on the ceramic portion of the spark plug. A ring can be seen where
the effective heat transfer takes place. The closer this ring is to the tip, the richer
the mixture. Closer to the base of the plug means the engine is running more lean.

Rule of Thumb Plug Gap
COMPRESSION GAP
UP TO 10.5:1 .040 - .045
10.5:1 - 13:1 .032 - .040
OVER 13:1 .025 - .032

Note: These are recommended for normally aspirated engines only. Reduce the gap for blower, turbo or nitrous applications.
Thanks,
msdtech2
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #194 on: July 13, 2008, 10:39:41 PM »
When I bought the boat it had a magnito. It looked to be original to the boat 1976. The upolstery was original and never ment to accomadate an alternator( very tight to the motor) never a pulley. Before for the motor went into the shop it was already high comp. with 185 lbs in most of the cylinders.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #195 on: July 13, 2008, 10:41:36 PM »
Thanks for the info GT
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #196 on: July 13, 2008, 10:44:01 PM »
word of advise, crank the motor over and make sure the plugs clear the piston. A couple weeks ago at the drag strip we had a minor issue with that on a 14.5:1 big bock chevy. Once again stock plugs and 35 on the gap
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #197 on: August 20, 2008, 08:39:05 PM »
This project has come to a crawling pace. But I did manage to make up some new seat frames a couple of weeks ago. Still need to resin coat them and glass the joints especially the raidius in the front seats.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #198 on: August 20, 2008, 08:48:38 PM »
Bought a couple of tanks from Motor Monkey and decided to use the left one. It was a nice alum. that had been made to replace the stock galvanized tank. Then I called IMCO and ordered a new right side tank, 6 days later it showed up with the UPS man.
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Re: 19' Rogers Project
« Reply #199 on: August 20, 2008, 08:54:06 PM »
lookin good ron

 


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