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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: steves86ta on August 06, 2013, 11:24:33 AM

Title: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on August 06, 2013, 11:24:33 AM
Hi All,

I think im about the third member from this board to take this project on. I plan on finishing it! It is rough but i also want to learn how to fiberglass and fill etc as needed so i figure if i screw this thing up its not a big deal. This project will take a LONG time as i do not have a lot of money to throw at it and will need to budget for everything. with that said the plans as of now (probably will change) include a fully forged 496 or possibly a stroked 440-500 some nitrous and a lot of big power. Whether this becomes a reality or not is one thing. I will start with the hull work first (actually already did) and i plan to document everything i do.

Before i get started with pics and what not i have a couple questions, as i am new to Jets. From the previous add i know it had a berkeley 12JG pump.
Do i have to replace it with this pump?
Will the intake that is in it work with other pumps?
I am considering doing a "setback" is this a good idea? Im looking to be in the 700-850 horse range.
Should i look at a different Berkeley pump?

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on August 06, 2013, 11:27:12 AM
Here are some pics of what im starting with:

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130804_135251_077_zps02453913.jpg&hash=2d76a4307f28b4f69f17d81f697bc7824598326f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130804_135251_077_zps02453913.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130804_135302_586_zps0891c2f5.jpg&hash=fac0935fb61bf30ac1c47e59b3674fcce3621e9d) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130804_135302_586_zps0891c2f5.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130804_135312_071_zps70d26a97.jpg&hash=d0840a9f71b906b276edd7ddc93303fca1c9a713) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130804_135312_071_zps70d26a97.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130804_135318_710_zps0577f8be.jpg&hash=20c415d655a4775569f02921582727f5c7d107ee) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130804_135318_710_zps0577f8be.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130804_135321_095_zpse95a0362.jpg&hash=fc7bcc407fe8bd38af5a0314647ba29a46e02fc2) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130804_135321_095_zpse95a0362.jpg.html)

And does anyone know WTF this angle iron thing is?
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130804_171514_750_zpsfb6cbee3.jpg&hash=56adcbb647f31181e7ff670d95bab62cbd596758) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130804_171514_750_zpsfb6cbee3.jpg.html)

First project im going to tackle is "capping" the boat
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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Beaveretriever on August 06, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
you don't have to have a 12jg pump in it. almost any berk will work. Not a E though completely different. If you are going to do a set back now is the time. I would do a set back to get the hand hole cover out of the boat. That loader might have to go. It looks a little rusty and might be cracked. Good luck with the project, it will be a long road but totally worth it.

The Beav
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: 74hondo on August 06, 2013, 02:59:16 PM
An E pump would already be set back, no I wouldn't recommend one for converting to set back since they are molded into the hull. But it is a good pump.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: DDP1084 on August 06, 2013, 04:47:39 PM
 That seems like a lot of power for a half stringer haul. Make sure the Haul can handle it before you build that monster motor You might be OK but I would look into it.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on August 06, 2013, 05:23:01 PM
That seems like a lot of power for a half stringer haul. Make sure the Haul can handle it before you build that monster motor You might be OK but I would look into it.
I thought about that, but I believe this is more of a 3/4 stringer. And to be honest this will be a stepping stone to learn building a boat and etc. I really want to be able to build this set up how I want and then pull the drive train and throw it into either a pickle fork or tunnel later on

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: 74hondo on August 06, 2013, 05:32:38 PM
I have been told by a few people, who are held in high regard around here, that quarter stringers are fine for high ho motors. I don't know from personal experience, but I have never seen some rip the stringers out from torque either.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on August 08, 2013, 04:22:22 PM
I dont have a pump yet to bolt up to it, but it looks like it might be "set back" already, what do you think?
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130806_180320_213_zpsf1af6546.jpg&hash=78d437d8a817c3ed37d5d4c3a6050256ebd4a476) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130806_180320_213_zpsf1af6546.jpg.html)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130806_180313_740_zps529fd97d.jpg&hash=f52cbb95eef7d560e29a3fde4aa33cc63f6482e7) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130806_180313_740_zps529fd97d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: SoCalPSD on August 08, 2013, 04:28:33 PM
Nope that's just how some are
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 05:22:47 PM
Ok i know its been a while so i thought i would update the thread as i have decided to start working on it again.

I have had a lot of spare time lately and like stated previously i have started oh the hull work first. I decided that it is best to start on the bottom of the hull first this makes the most sense to me. So I invited a few buddies over and we got it flipped over. I have it sitting on some Jack stands and some 2x4's. I have decided against capping the hull because i tend to dock it a lot.

Here are some pics of where im at so far. More to come this weekend

Sanded the side and up to the first chine with my DA and 60 grit to give the primer something to grab on to
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(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20131229_141826_989_zps1db44c86.jpg&hash=3bff6006e8765bc0c659f15d1835ba34375856ac) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20131229_141826_989_zps1db44c86.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
And i finished DA'ing the whole left side of the bottom of the boat. And even wet sanded it down so that i could go ahead and lay down some good primer. Up to this point i have just been using Rustoleum primer bought by the quart at Autozone. So this weekend ill finish scuffing up the rest of the boat and then hit the entire bottom with some Bulldog and some Polyprimer i bought that is high build and great for filling.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140102_164519_312_zps19687742.jpg&hash=4c4426915a224b3462d721f97c221e667001026b) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140102_164519_312_zps19687742.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140102_164507_917_zpsb2ee9ec1.jpg&hash=a16cd97507fb0a794522d22eddcda7c39ecc39ca) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140102_164507_917_zpsb2ee9ec1.jpg.html)

And heres the primer ill be hitting it with this weekend (if its not windy)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20131230_200035_811_zpsf5d8209f.jpg&hash=330f69c721080a8857f7bef88768e19be9ddbb5d) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20131230_200035_811_zpsf5d8209f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: randog on January 02, 2014, 07:20:59 PM

And i finished DA'ing the whole left side of the bottom of the boat. And even wet sanded it down so that i could go ahead and lay down some good primer. Up to this point i have just been using Rustoleum primer bought by the quart at Autozone. So this weekend ill finish scuffing up the rest of the boat and then hit the entire bottom with some Bulldog and some Polyprimer i bought that is high build and great for filling.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140102_164519_312_zps19687742.jpg&hash=4c4426915a224b3462d721f97c221e667001026b) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140102_164519_312_zps19687742.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140102_164507_917_zpsb2ee9ec1.jpg&hash=a16cd97507fb0a794522d22eddcda7c39ecc39ca) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140102_164507_917_zpsb2ee9ec1.jpg.html)

And heres the primer ill be hitting it with this weekend (if its not windy)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20131230_200035_811_zpsf5d8209f.jpg&hash=330f69c721080a8857f7bef88768e19be9ddbb5d) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20131230_200035_811_zpsf5d8209f.jpg.html)

Make sure that primer is not that old.we did my dads 32 ford pu and sisters 30 model a with that primer and after about a two months it shrank and cracked.it looked like lacquer checking. We had to sand them back to bear metal and start over.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 02, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

I dont have a pump yet to bolt up to it, but it looks like it might be "set back" already, what do you think?
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130806_180320_213_zpsf1af6546.jpg&hash=78d437d8a817c3ed37d5d4c3a6050256ebd4a476) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130806_180320_213_zpsf1af6546.jpg.html)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20130806_180313_740_zps529fd97d.jpg&hash=f52cbb95eef7d560e29a3fde4aa33cc63f6482e7) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20130806_180313_740_zps529fd97d.jpg.html)
No, looks to be in the stock location. I would set it back to at least half of the hand hole sticking out. I've seen a lot of them with full set backs and the run super hard.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
Could you come up with some info on setting it back? I've never done it and I think I would have to cut a big chunk out. But I'm game

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 02, 2014, 07:42:05 PM

Could you come up with some info on setting it back? I've never done it and I think I would have to cut a big chunk out. But I'm game

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well, pull the intake. Get that done up with a shoe and ride plate. I would clean up the intake area and cut out how ever much you need to. glass back in the front part. I always put a bit more glass back than I should so I can grind make the intake go back in perfect.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 07:43:11 PM
OK. And how far should I set it back 2" 3" etc?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 02, 2014, 07:45:01 PM

OK. And how far should I set it back 2" 3" etc?

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If it were me I would set it back to where the hand hole of the jet is just outside of the transom. Can't really give ya an exact number but somewhere in between 2 and 3 inches.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 07:50:48 PM
Sorry for all the questions. But if I do that. There won't be any glass between the intake and where the transom is. Is that a problem? Structurally?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 02, 2014, 07:57:58 PM

Sorry for all the questions. But if I do that. There won't be any glass between the intake and where the transom is. Is that a problem? Structurally?

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No really. The best think to do is add one or two pump braces too keep the intake from moving. Especially when ya got a lot of HP!


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
Cool. I'll have to look around for them. What's the shoe and ride plate? Something I can do or does a shop need to do it?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 02, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
last question then ill leave you alone (maybe lol)

If i decide to set it back, but i build an engine with only somewhere around 450-500 hp would this negatively effect me?

Im still considering the 454 stroker, but i currently have an extra 350 and most of a 383 kit. I could build to make some pretty decent power but nowhere near 700 or so (and be reliable)

thanks again
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: 76 Bonneville on January 02, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
I wouldn't spend the money or time doing a set back on that hull. Unless you just want the experience of doing it. That hull might be a hand full at speed.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: beerjet on January 02, 2014, 11:54:02 PM
Great lake boat with 450 reliable hp.
Put it together.
Enjoy for many years to come.
There is a ton of work involved in making this hull handle properly with the deep entry that hull has.

-beerjet-

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 03, 2014, 06:51:36 AM
So you're advising against setting the intake back too right?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: beerjet on January 03, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
So you're advising against setting the intake back too right?

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Not for the amount of work involved

-beerjet-

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 03, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
well made some progress today... or so i thought


Got the trailer stripped down and primed

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_102758_566_zpsf754d3d4.jpg&hash=cee0032682747438d6809d5bef9e122f04b6ebba) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_102758_566_zpsf754d3d4.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_102752_135_zps13d86039.jpg&hash=914afcfc48010de846f408d761e2175ee17c1ef8) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_102752_135_zps13d86039.jpg.html)

then painted! just in black

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_120728_755_zps99b421b6.jpg&hash=68706eb1441511b05239f04f07b4cf3648c82c5e) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_120728_755_zps99b421b6.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 03, 2014, 09:44:50 PM
and then i moved my focus onto the boat itself

I did some "final sanding" and mxed up some of my "good" primer. Decided to shoot the half of the boat i felt was prepped

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_120724_453_zpsd15f5360.jpg&hash=8fae80dc6d52e423d7c4f0ec5ff5ada13ea02657) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_120724_453_zpsd15f5360.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_120712_431_zps1ad0b6ff.jpg&hash=be9f874c58b372d609048a3092cf8f19e7ffc682) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_120712_431_zps1ad0b6ff.jpg.html)

and went to lunch
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 03, 2014, 09:54:04 PM
Yes im using White primer (the boat will be mostly orange and i want the color to pop)

so i went to lunch and came home. It had been atleast 3 hours since i sprayed it so i decided to start wetsanding... Well bad idea!!!!!!!!!!!!

I started to wetsand and come to findout either the cheapo rustoleum primer or Bulldog adhesion promoter did not play welll with my PCL primer.

I started block sanding and everything was good. Untill i started on the side and found a soft spot. The paper literally ripped off of the block. After investigation it appears that the primer did not dry or appear to anywhere i sprayed the bulldog (i ran out)

here are some pics, and some of me removing the primer i sprayed today. Back to ground zero!

Here you can where it was "gumming up"
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_150807_038_zps64443fea.jpg&hash=dd9acc7b4e849fe994c091dee9ce5f6c49effebf) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_150807_038_zps64443fea.jpg.html)

And after i got tired of changing DA disks every 35 seconds i turned to Aircraft Remover. Here are the results

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_154231_825_zpsfe27b5ce.jpg&hash=0729e0431e5eaedbc834af7bf924be05da8779d9) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_154231_825_zpsfe27b5ce.jpg.html)

 (https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_160506_989_zps204dff14.jpg&hash=27b4baf4e927423ad9a4152041a187e486945774) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_160506_989_zps204dff14.jpg.html)


More updates to come tomorrow!
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on January 03, 2014, 10:44:12 PM
Yes im using White primer (the boat will be mostly orange and i want the color to pop)

so i went to lunch and came home. It had been atleast 3 hours since i sprayed it so i decided to start wetsanding... Well bad idea!!!!!!!!!!!!

I started to wetsand and come to findout either the cheapo rustoleum primer or Bulldog adhesion promoter did not play welll with my PCL primer.

I started block sanding and everything was good. Untill i started on the side and found a soft spot. The paper literally ripped off of the block. After investigation it appears that the primer did not dry or appear to anywhere i sprayed the bulldog (i ran out)

here are some pics, and some of me removing the primer i sprayed today. Back to ground zero!

Here you can where it was "gumming up"
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_150807_038_zps64443fea.jpg&hash=dd9acc7b4e849fe994c091dee9ce5f6c49effebf) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_150807_038_zps64443fea.jpg.html)

And after i got tired of changing DA disks every 35 seconds i turned to Aircraft Remover. Here are the results

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_154231_825_zpsfe27b5ce.jpg&hash=0729e0431e5eaedbc834af7bf924be05da8779d9) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_154231_825_zpsfe27b5ce.jpg.html)

 (https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140103_160506_989_zps204dff14.jpg&hash=27b4baf4e927423ad9a4152041a187e486945774) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140103_160506_989_zps204dff14.jpg.html)


More updates to come tomorrow!

Your first coat of primer needs to be either acrylic urethane or polyester. You could use an epoxy, but I have had adhesion issues with it before. It needs to cure/shrink for about a week before you can really do anything with it.

Only then can you use a filler/builder primer surfacer.

Be really careful with the stripper, it needs to be totally washed of with Dawn before you can recoat with anything, the solvents actually permeate into the pores.

Good luck.

GT

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 03, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
Yeah. The primer I am using is polyester. I think it was an issue of either the bulldog and poly primer or poly primer on the rustoleum primer

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on January 03, 2014, 10:54:06 PM
Yeah. The primer I am using is polyester. I think it was an issue of either the bulldog and poly primer or poly primer on the rustoleum primer

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You  can't spray poly over anything else without being sealed, also it has to completely cure before anything else is sprayed on it.

Try to stick to the same family if finishes of at all possible. The topcoats will tell you what they can be applied to Rustoleum in my experience does nit play well with most others...

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 03, 2014, 10:55:27 PM
Yeah. My plan moving forward is to just remove everything on there and use the poly as a base.  Learning curves

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on January 03, 2014, 11:03:10 PM
Yeah. My plan moving forward is to just remove everything on there and use the poly as a base.  Learning curves

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You'll get it... If it was easy, everybody would do it .

The first boat my dad and I painted, we did it three times. Came out killer, but still learned a while bunch of what not to do.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Jet Boat Maloney on January 04, 2014, 07:36:15 AM
This is the first thing I ever painted. Was a learning process. Did everything but the pin striping.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on January 04, 2014, 08:01:53 AM
It's the rustoleum throw that shit in the trash your not painting a  gate.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on January 04, 2014, 08:03:32 AM
Hey jet boat that cam out killer looks great.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 04, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
Heres the first thing i painted (my first car)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2F0303_zps3e6e6f8a.jpg&hash=a58e1d96d43d5f560226a37f4d45d7d1bcd9e32f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/0303_zps3e6e6f8a.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2Fcar20002_zpsc3cf5930.jpg&hash=5b888c08046e852f0061bf9257cb0235d2642c6d) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/car20002_zpsc3cf5930.jpg.html)

And the second

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2F1965%2520CHRYSLER%2Fsmallsideview.jpg&hash=39625a9e1adb6e6c62e53eeff8979a3ad6c7d804) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/1965%20CHRYSLER/smallsideview.jpg.html)

So i have a fair amount of expirence. However i learned my lesson going cheapo with the rustoleum... wont do that again
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Jet Boat Maloney on January 04, 2014, 09:09:07 AM

Hey jet boat that cam out killer looks great.

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Thanks. It's a friends boat that I learned the hard way when in doubt throttle out. Unfortunately I didn't know it when I hit the rocks in Mohave Valley put a big hole in the bottom. So I got to learn a little about fiberglass repair too. I thought he was gonna kill me but it turned out better than it was before. Lesson learned!!!


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 08, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
not a whole lot of progress. As you can tell the boat is outside. And its usually dark by the time i get home. Plus a little cold for paint and filler

Tonight i got home a little early and decided to try my hand at doing some filling. Ive been reading about blueprinting the bottom and im going to attempt my best.

So got my level out (closest thing i have to a straightedge) its 4 ft long and i masked off an area approx 5 feet (couldnt find the damn tape measure.

After sitting the level on the third "level" i tried to make a map and give myself an idea of where i needed to put what.

Here you can see what i masked off and the area i plan to "blueprint"

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140108_182153_206_zpsb65e6259.jpg&hash=3f24b8e6220944c74ee9ed4c453d356a634c0978) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140108_182153_206_zpsb65e6259.jpg.html)

I threw some filler on (well all that i mixed up) and let it cure
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140108_182145_743_zps42791305.jpg&hash=7654be77068e79f543fd748e03066a65636f55ce) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140108_182145_743_zps42791305.jpg.html)

Then went at it with some 40 grit and my long board (about 16 inches). After about 20 minutes of sanding and cleaning it up with some 80 then 180 grit. this is my end result
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140108_191452_743_zpsbc2fd162.jpg&hash=33702a402f908dbad88449887a6745903b600dd4) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140108_191452_743_zpsbc2fd162.jpg.html)

My question to you all is If you look at the above picture you can see the "two" concentrations of Filler. The filler on the right is a definent low spot. I need to add some more.
Now the areas where i sanded through the filler still show as low with my straight edge. albeit about 1/16 inch so im not to worried. But does it look like im heading in the right direction? I suck at body work lol
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on January 08, 2014, 08:01:49 PM
Use that poly fill primer and build it up with that.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 08, 2014, 08:35:40 PM

not a whole lot of progress. As you can tell the boat is outside. And its usually dark by the time i get home. Plus a little cold for paint and filler

Tonight i got home a little early and decided to try my hand at doing some filling. Ive been reading about blueprinting the bottom and im going to attempt my best.

So got my level out (closest thing i have to a straightedge) its 4 ft long and i masked off an area approx 5 feet (couldnt find the damn tape measure.

After sitting the level on the third "level" i tried to make a map and give myself an idea of where i needed to put what.

Here you can see what i masked off and the area i plan to "blueprint"

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140108_182153_206_zpsb65e6259.jpg&hash=3f24b8e6220944c74ee9ed4c453d356a634c0978) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140108_182153_206_zpsb65e6259.jpg.html)

I threw some filler on (well all that i mixed up) and let it cure
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140108_182145_743_zps42791305.jpg&hash=7654be77068e79f543fd748e03066a65636f55ce) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140108_182145_743_zps42791305.jpg.html)

Then went at it with some 40 grit and my long board (about 16 inches). After about 20 minutes of sanding and cleaning it up with some 80 then 180 grit. this is my end result
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140108_191452_743_zpsbc2fd162.jpg&hash=33702a402f908dbad88449887a6745903b600dd4) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140108_191452_743_zpsbc2fd162.jpg.html)

My question to you all is If you look at the above picture you can see the "two" concentrations of Filler. The filler on the right is a definent low spot. I need to add some more.
Now the areas where i sanded through the filler still show as low with my straight edge. albeit about 1/16 inch so im not to worried. But does it look like im heading in the right direction? I suck at body work lol
Your doing a great job! Make sure the strakes are nice an straight. Make it so it's level and no low spots. FYI you mite end up with a nasty low end porpous if you don't do it just right. Should be fine though. Keep up the great work.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 08, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
exactly how flat do i have to make it? Should i worry about stuff that is 1/8" or bigger or 1/4" or ???
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 08, 2014, 10:23:50 PM

exactly how flat do i have to make it? Should i worry about stuff that is 1/8" or bigger or 1/4" or ???
if I can see light or a gap under the straight edge I'll keep filling.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: ka0tyk on January 08, 2014, 10:46:47 PM
i urge you to take a walk down holorinhal's kona resto thread.  he goes through all the steps on the top as well as blueprinting the bottom, filling, etc on the bottom of the hull.  the result was absolutely phenomenal but unfortunately it was totaled before he had a time to enjoy it.

http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/10678-73-kona-resto-build-ii.html (http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/10678-73-kona-resto-build-ii.html)
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on January 08, 2014, 10:51:44 PM
Yep that's a great read I really felt bad for the guy after what happened

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Jet Boat Maloney on January 08, 2014, 11:07:43 PM
Then  the motor problems he's had really sucks. I hope he finds a good machine shop. That last builder he had really screwed him over from the threads I've read of his.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 09, 2014, 07:58:02 AM
i urge you to take a walk down holorinhal's kona resto thread.  he goes through all the steps on the top as well as blueprinting the bottom, filling, etc on the bottom of the hull.  the result was absolutely phenomenal but unfortunately it was totaled before he had a time to enjoy it.

http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/10678-73-kona-resto-build-ii.html (http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/10678-73-kona-resto-build-ii.html)

Kayotk,
I've read his thread, and also the one he references (blueprinting 101) and this is where i got my idea. I just am not the best at body work so wanted some opinions lol. The 101 thread advises to not worry about the stuff thats 1/16 or smaller. Primer will fill that in.

thanks!
steve
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on January 09, 2014, 08:44:46 AM
The biggest item to keep in mind is rigidity.  All the blocking in the world would be a waste of time if it is as soft as dried fruit turd.

Also, I highly recommend a long block for sanding.  Cris-cross your lines too.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 09, 2014, 09:02:35 AM
The biggest item to keep in mind is rigidity.  All the blocking in the world would be a waste of time if it is as soft as dried fruit turd.

Also, I highly recommend a long block for sanding.  Cris-cross your lines too.

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the hull is solid, there are two areas i had to make a minor repair and i used glass mat and resin.

For the filler, the areas that will need more than 1/8 inch worth im using duraglass. The rest just regular body filler.

Im using about a 16" long block
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: old rigger on January 16, 2014, 10:39:12 AM
Cool project but it's not a 1968 Rogers. Maybe the pink has been changed through the years, could be a thousand reasons why it's registered, if it is, as a '68 but Roger didn't start on his own until 1970.

Mid to late 60's he was still working for his dad Ray Weiman, inventing with Dick Schuster the deep V jet boat, fighting with his dad, working for Richfield oil delivering oil in bulk, racing for Schuster, not speaking to his dad (a 20 year riff) and doing a stint in the Coast Guard. But he did not build a boat under the Rogers name until '70.

Doesn't really matter, as they're all gone now but I thought you'd like to know.

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on January 16, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
What year did Dick Schuster pass away? 

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 16, 2014, 11:09:19 AM
Cool project but it's not a 1968 Rogers. Maybe the pink has been changed through the years, could be a thousand reasons why it's registered, if it is, as a '68 but Roger didn't start on his own until 1970.

Mid to late 60's he was still working for his dad Ray Weiman, inventing with Dick Schuster the deep V jet boat, fighting with his dad, working for Richfield oil delivering oil in bulk, racing for Schuster, not speaking to his dad (a 20 year riff) and doing a stint in the Coast Guard. But he did not build a boat under the Rogers name until '70.

Doesn't really matter, as they're all gone now but I thought you'd like to know.

I'll check the actual pink. I'm just going off of what previous owners said. It has a HIN I believe. I'll check that too

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: old rigger on January 16, 2014, 11:26:04 AM
HINs didn't start until November '72 or '73. Can't remember for sure right now.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 19, 2014, 07:44:44 PM
not a whole lot of progress, because i spent all day Saturday picking up a "donor" boat out by Vegas. Ill grab some pics tonmorrow but this gives me a lot of the stuff to get the Rogers going. I was looking for a Jet and a member here had one that i was gonna pick up for 300, well i was heading to Vegas to pick up Holorinhal's gas tanks he had for sale and figured i would check Craigslist while i was out there and see if there were any deals on stuff i needed.

Well i found a sleekcraft for 400.00 that had a 455 and a berkeley JC pump. So i called the guy up and made an offer site unseen. Ended up checking it out Saturday and picking it up. And man did i get a hell of a deal. It has a JC pump, a jet-o-vator (with control), gas pedal, new steering cable. And this was just what i saw when i picked it up. Got home late yesterday afternoon and pulled a valve cover to see whatever i could. I can tell it has aftermarket retainers on the springs.

So fast forward to today, i must have ate something i shouldnt have because ive been sick most all of today. But i still drug my ass out of bed and decided i wanted to try to light the 455 off and see if it will run. Well i was using an extension with a socket to prime the oil pump and long story short, the extension fell into the motor. Well eff it and pulled the motor. (heavy bastard)

got the motor out and started tearing it down to see what i am working with. I still was not sure if i was going to use the motor or sell it. Pull the heads and find that its bored .030 over and the pistons appear to be Forged. The cylinders look brand new and still have all of the hash marks. Flip it over and it had a 12 quart milodon pan and tray. Pull the pan and it has a fully forged rotating assembly, i am not sure if the rods are stock since ive never pulled a 455 down. I still dont know what cam it has but ill be pulling it tomorrow after getting a balancer puller.

Here are a couple pics of what im working with. Looks like i lucked out for 350.00!
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140119_181528_045_zps4ac79d52.jpg&hash=8e8536fce2b2b275526a9e4082cf5f569d8f4d34) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140119_181528_045_zps4ac79d52.jpg.html)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140119_181543_103_zpsfc501c29.jpg&hash=304e27471f6b491e9e384c424bc9f30217bf11f8) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140119_181543_103_zpsfc501c29.jpg.html)

And it has these logs, im looking to trade these for some Headers (bassett style) If anyone is interested. They look to be like brand new
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140119_181606_093_zpse974d1e5.jpg&hash=5d7b125657e0ab38e762c8bddf439b04c513d676) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140119_181606_093_zpse974d1e5.jpg.html)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140119_181611_689_zpsfb9be12e.jpg&hash=8cbd27a4f5fe26b1cda27aba963862b48f03af01) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140119_181611_689_zpsfb9be12e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on January 19, 2014, 08:11:17 PM
455 Olds? I Hope ya do some of the oil mods or that thing wont live long above 5000 RPMS.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 19, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
455 Olds? I Hope ya do some of the oil mods or that thing wont live long above 5000 RPMS.

Yeah I've heard.  I'll do the mods or see if they have been done

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 20, 2014, 01:39:26 PM
my current thought process is to refresh this 455 and put it in the boat to get me out on the water this year. While the boat is running and im getting some lake time i will then decide to build a stroker motor. At this point in time i would still really like to hold out for the 440 route  and just buy everything slowly.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on February 16, 2014, 06:22:03 PM
finally some progress


(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140216_100318_039_zpsd471d0e9.jpg&hash=620d8d95ed81ac2d602ba80597a8ca74e2534159) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140216_100318_039_zpsd471d0e9.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140216_100302_010_zps390a2fe6.jpg&hash=5332f15cc5379ce2feb9f9a91295350f5840e707) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140216_100302_010_zps390a2fe6.jpg.html)

And some paint!

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_1176_zpsb8740dca.jpg&hash=2969cdbebb20404ac78d297901b7c1bd47de698f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_1176_zpsb8740dca.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_1177_zps6fb3d825.jpg&hash=f5d2eadb2793dcb7cb3a2b8a2c14e3e072b50af3) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_1177_zps6fb3d825.jpg.html)

And this is making me consider doing Black and White opposed to Orange

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_1179_zpsbd9f9ae6.jpg&hash=863ebf63bef21cb16b41fc456da73fb66d7f67e6) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_1179_zpsbd9f9ae6.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_1180_zps62c1b5e8.jpg&hash=74ab9572f8a5bb3ba75e352f63a418fb847aa6ac) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_1180_zps62c1b5e8.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_1181_zps26913d00.jpg&hash=ca55fb44ed4c997391549b8b96e6182d3b6e7f86) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_1181_zps26913d00.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_1182_zps7bd4c9f9.jpg&hash=1a17b3d5c53f6942c282130e313f347011636912) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_1182_zps7bd4c9f9.jpg.html)

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: ka0tyk on February 16, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
looks good.  when can i bring mine over for paint?   ^-^ 
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on February 17, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
looks good.  when can i bring mine over for paint?   ^-^

Thanks, but it looks a lot better in pics that it does in person. Right after i sprayed the wind kicked up and put all kids of shit in the paint. Now i have to colorsand and buff it
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 11, 2014, 10:39:56 AM
First coat of sealer primer after blocking the filler primer. I will block this a couple of times i think. I know i have one spot on the left side that i need to fill in alittle. I hope to have it in paint by the end of the week.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140310_180410_713_zps7690f05c.jpg&hash=c4e5d4df0511cf49443b9b53442741de788ec79c) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140310_180410_713_zps7690f05c.jpg.html)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FIMG_20140310_180428_800_zps5cc68d1f.jpg&hash=ed1c0f4fdceac001e2a3a7072a63c4095953eea7) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/IMG_20140310_180428_800_zps5cc68d1f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 11, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
Steve, looking good!
Do you know about using a guide coat?
It helps while blocking, to see highs and lows.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 11, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
Steve, looking good!
Do you know about using a guide coat?
It helps while blocking, to see highs and lows.


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Hey Hal!

yeah i used a guide coat when i blocked the white filler primer. ill use one again when i begin blocking this coat tonight. I think im pretty much finished with the body work except for one spot i just flat out didnt see when it was in white on the other side.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 11, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
Now that im off work at 4 and its daylight savings time. I can actually work on the boat after work

I came home and layed down a Red guide coat
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Then i block sanded again with 220 grit wet
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And filled a couple remaining spots
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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 11, 2014, 07:53:21 PM
And sprayed another coat of primer. Im hoping this is my last coat, im going to block it tomorrow with 320, then 400, then 600 in preparation for paint
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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on March 11, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
Keep it up man!


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 12, 2014, 02:42:16 PM
looking good Steve!
What are you using for paint, single stage, or base/clear?
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 12, 2014, 03:48:45 PM
looking good Steve!
What are you using for paint, single stage, or base/clear?

Hi Hal,
For this one im just going to use single stage and then add clear over it when i get done with everything, since i plan to do somewhat of a color scheme.

Plus i already have the paint. To be honest though, it is industrial paint and pretty thick. ive sprayed one car with it, and one roll bar on a rhino it held up very well. Its called LIC-50

The clear will be so i can colorsand and flow over the lines from the paint designs.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 13, 2014, 07:00:39 PM
ready for paint! I wet sanded with 320, then 400. Should i sand to 600 for single stage? Its pretty thick stuff

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: gsmitty on March 13, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
Depends if going to seal it before you put down color. Also you can color sand and rub single stage paint.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 13, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Depends if going to seal it before you put down color. Also you can color sand and rub single stage paint.


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I'm familiar with color sanding and buffing single stage. I'll spray over what I have here

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: gsmitty on March 13, 2014, 07:24:31 PM
If going to clear over it all you will be good at 400.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 13, 2014, 07:26:31 PM
If going to clear over it all you will be good at 400.


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I think I'm gonna spray about three coats, let it dry, then wet sand with 400 then 600. Since I have to spray outdoors I'm expecting lots of crap in the paint

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: gsmitty on March 13, 2014, 07:35:27 PM
Wouldn't hurt. Before you spry color scotch bright down then wipe with damp paper towel and follow with dry one the blue shop ones work best then tack rag I kinda know over kill for out side paint job but if you get a good day with no wind will work out good for you. Also wet down area. Have fun looks good!!!!


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on March 13, 2014, 07:52:36 PM
I wouldn't go finner than 320 on fiberglass , fiberglass moves a lot expanding and contracting due to temperature it needs a good tooth to bite onto,  I've painting a lot of motor homes and that's what works for me, also use adhesion promotion after you've sanded and before you spray your single stage paint , you should be using a urethane.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: gsmitty on March 13, 2014, 08:12:26 PM
Don't know if motor homes are different but spray lots of race cars that are fiber glass and carbon fiber and can go as fine as you want if have primer on it.   


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: randog on March 13, 2014, 09:59:41 PM
We use to 400 wet all primer before any color.single stage 2 stage steel fiberglass you name it that was the rule at the body shop I worked at in high school and that's how my dad still does it after 45 years of being a body man.my boss painted a Howard flat bottom 9 candy colors and six coats of sickens clear then wet sanded it to 1200 and buffed. that thing was so bad it was hard to look at in the sun it would make you blind it was so shiny and smooth it looked wet all the time.that was a fun job I got to do all the body work on the cars that didn't have any money in them and junk yard hunt.the only thing that sucked was wet sanding in the winter out Side it gets cool in yucca valley.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on March 13, 2014, 10:18:28 PM
Yeah I used 400 for years I just found 320 was a little faster that's all but paint has to have a tooth to bite onto or you can have problems

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 17, 2014, 07:25:58 AM
I ended up going to 320, i used the white as a base, im going to paint it orange after all. Should have the paint by the weekend.

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Which gives me time to fix these

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 17, 2014, 08:54:19 PM
Couple pics without the masking paper

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on March 18, 2014, 05:32:41 PM
I told you that 320 kicks button and no sanding scratches to fix , looks good bud

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on March 18, 2014, 05:33:21 PM
Butt damn auto correct

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 19, 2014, 05:56:15 PM
And some daytime pics. Wetsanded with 220 today. Will hit it with 320 before I spray the orange. But let it sit with this in case any birds shit on it or anything

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 19, 2014, 05:56:42 PM
And what is speed coat? Should I do it?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on March 19, 2014, 06:20:29 PM

And what is speed coat? Should I do it?

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It's looking good. Speed coat it's just a graphite paint you spray on the bottom. If you do flat black paint it does about the same thing.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 19, 2014, 06:24:26 PM
It's looking good. Speed coat it's just a graphite paint you spray on the bottom. If you do flat black paint it does about the same thing.


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I was thinking flat black because I already have some over spray and that would make a lot less work of color sanding and buffing. Should I just do where I "expect" the boat to ride?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 19, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
Steve, Yes, you really only want it on the riding surface. Any thing else is really just a waste.

Here is how i did mine.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on March 19, 2014, 07:34:44 PM
I was thinking flat black because I already have some over spray and that would make a lot less work of color sanding and buffing. Should I just do where I "expect" the boat to ride?

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I start the spray about 1 and a half feet in front of the intake and to the end of boat.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 22, 2014, 02:20:18 PM
We have orange!

First coat
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Third coat. I'll color sand and buff this coat. Not to worried about orange peel. Just to get the bugs out

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I'll redo the flat black when the orange is dry

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on March 22, 2014, 02:32:47 PM
Nice man!
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on March 22, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
Looking good

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on March 22, 2014, 08:01:30 PM
What orange is that?

That thing is going to be killer..   8)


Need a Blazer to tug it around?   ;D
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 22, 2014, 08:05:04 PM
What orange is that?

That thing is going to be killer..   8)


Need a Blazer to tug it around?   ;D

Its lic50 paint. Just an industrial poly urethane single stage paint. Its cheap, thick, and lays down nicely. I've painted one car with it, and I learned about it from a friend that does semi trailers in it.

The color is just "safety orange". But I did a white base before covering with the orange. I really like it. When I do the top I'll clear it.

Anyone wanna lend a hand helping to flip it back over? Lol

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 22, 2014, 09:35:47 PM
Steve, that thing is looking awesome! I like that orange. Are you going to do any other colors with it?

I cut the holes in the transom and finnished up the exhaust, on the Spectra, today.
 Just need to get a set of tips, and i will be all square.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GeneralLee on March 22, 2014, 10:25:35 PM
Wow looks really good. Keep it up.



Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 23, 2014, 06:51:58 AM
Wow looks really good. Keep it up.



Stupid move?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on March 23, 2014, 08:49:24 AM

Stupid move?

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That's his sig lol


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 23, 2014, 08:52:46 AM
Lol

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 23, 2014, 02:53:43 PM
Bottom is done! Little bit of color sanding then onto the trailer it goes.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on March 23, 2014, 04:15:41 PM
That thing is sexy as hell..

You did that old tub proud man! Keep it up.

Cant wait to see this thing completed.. 8)

GT
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 23, 2014, 09:28:07 PM
That looks awesome,Steve!
Now flip that bitch over and get the top done!
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: rush1 on March 24, 2014, 04:18:55 PM
Dude I'm popping WOOD

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 24, 2014, 07:46:46 PM
Color sanded and buffed today.

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Also got bunks on trailer should have the winch, and bow stop this week.

Anyone have some rollers they wanna sell?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Chad krieger on March 24, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
Steve just add 2 more bunks u won't need rollers.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: riverrat4life on March 24, 2014, 07:56:42 PM
Wicked dude!! Thats absolutely amazing craftsmanship! Ill remember you when I get a rogers for myself.. ;)

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 24, 2014, 08:08:58 PM
Yea Steve, what Chad said ;D
I prefer four bunks also, rolers,in my opinion, are bad for the keel, if the outer bunks arent set right.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 24, 2014, 08:13:44 PM
How would I add two more? Any pics I can use?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: gsmitty on March 24, 2014, 08:39:04 PM
Once boat is back on trailer get angle iron and drill two holes and mount to a 2x4 hold up to bottom of boat where you want it and mark or spot weld it to the trailer.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: gsmitty on March 24, 2014, 08:39:34 PM
Once boat is back on trailer get angle iron and drill two holes and mount to a 2x4 hold up to bottom of boat where you want it and mark or spot weld it to the trailer.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GT Jets on March 24, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
I would add a keel roller on at minimum the rear cross member, if you shallow launch the keel could touch. The rollers are NOT supposed to touch the hull with the boat sitting all the way on the trailer, just when retrieving/launching.

A short set of bunks on the out side would be the ticket.

This thing is turning out awesome.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 24, 2014, 09:07:10 PM
Steve, with the bunk brackets that you have, you would need another set, I think three per side, depending on how many cross members there are. You want the two center bunks to be the major support and run the entire length of the keel just short of where it starts to turn up. Then the two outer bunks to be shorties. I used the same brackets you have on, on my Kona trailer.
Here is a pic of the Advantage, but you get the idea. Good thing about your brackets is, they are adjustable.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 24, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
Where can I get said brackets? And how short? 4'?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on March 24, 2014, 09:14:50 PM
I've got 2 brand new ones you could have. I'll take pictures tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on March 24, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Where can I get said brackets? And how short? 4'?

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Let me know!

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: holorinhal on March 24, 2014, 09:24:47 PM
My inner bunks are 11' and my outer bunks are 7'
You can get the brackets at west marine or any boat dealer. I think I still have the brackets from the kona trailer, after iscraped the frame from the wreck. I will check and you can have them, if you just pay the shipping.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 03, 2014, 01:11:54 PM
Well.... got her flipped, i hope to make some progress this weekend.

I have a question for you all.... Im wondering if you think i should do a floor or not? My original plan was to do no floor and just carpet or zyloatone the inside? Opinions ideas?

Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on April 03, 2014, 02:38:34 PM
Well.... got her flipped, i hope to make some progress this weekend.

I have a question for you all.... Im wondering if you think i should do a floor or not? My original plan was to do no floor and just carpet or zyloatone the inside? Opinions ideas?

Flow coat? Half gelcoat half clear gel. It looks killer and stays nice and shiny if you keep it nice and clean.
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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 03, 2014, 02:45:47 PM
thought about that, but my boat doesn't have the nice floors like yours just the glass...
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on April 03, 2014, 03:50:34 PM
thought about that, but my boat doesn't have the nice floors like yours just the glass...
You can just lay down color. just sand everything till its smooth. i know Hal did the stringers and the rest carpet in his advantage and it looks killer.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 03, 2014, 03:52:54 PM
How does that go for mounting things like seats, pedals, controls? Everything i have looks to be some sort of floor mount do they make an adapter? Or just glass something in to mount it to?
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: jyeager on April 03, 2014, 03:57:14 PM
How does that go for mounting things like seats, pedals, controls? Everything i have looks to be some sort of floor mount do they make an adapter? Or just glass something in to mount it to?
You'll have to make brackets for some stuff. check out hals build. it has all kinds of info on it. I can't find it on socal.
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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 07, 2014, 07:36:39 PM
Well got her flipped, stripped, and ready for the first coat of primer

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 07, 2014, 07:42:44 PM
Oh and I had some paint left over and an extra rc  hull. Meet project 2.
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And my other one. Runs about 45mph in this configuration.
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I'm expecting the orange one to push approx 60

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Your Mom on April 07, 2014, 07:44:54 PM
Looking bitchn... on the trailer bunks.. I had only the two long inner for years and it started bending the axle inward with slight chop/wear on the inner tire... I added the two short outer to distribute the weight some to the outside...so far so good.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 08, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
F!@K

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Oh well primed it anyway

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 09, 2014, 10:51:36 AM
So i was looking my boat over. specifically the intake for the jet and it looks like i have some of the epoxy cracking or missing.  ???

My Question is, should i remove the intake? I really dont want to as when i had the boat flipped i spent time blending it in and filling the bolt holes with filler. Can i just try to sand off whats there and re-apply marine-tex or something?

I can grab pics later today if that helps

thanks
steve
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 14, 2014, 09:26:57 AM
New goal! Have it running and floating by the October meet. idk if this is realistic but its a goal
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: mash on it on April 14, 2014, 09:57:03 AM
New goal! Have it running and floating by the May meet. idk if this is realistic but its a goal

Fixed it for ya... ;)
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on April 14, 2014, 10:01:30 AM
Keep it up brother!


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 14, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
Yea sounds like plenty of time but the funds may or maynot be there. Ill start looking for used parts next month

anyone have a torker intake for a 455 laying around? Maybe a 750-850 doublepumper???
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 21, 2014, 11:00:57 AM
Got a little work done today. I ground out a few of the stress cracks it had in it and filled them with duraglass. I also got the boat wet sanded with 220 and ready for another coat of filler primer.

I do need to repair the nose though so I'll get that done first.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: riverrat4life on April 21, 2014, 12:55:45 PM
Lookin good steveo!

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Havasukona455 on April 21, 2014, 03:38:27 PM

Yea sounds like plenty of time but the funds may or maynot be there. Ill start looking for used parts next month

anyone have a torker intake for a 455 laying around? Maybe a 750-850 doublepumper???

I have an old school Holley 750 dp single feed that's in good shape if your interested.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 22, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
I have an old school Holley 750 dp single feed that's in good shape if your interested.


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Possibly, though i think the 750 single feed may be a little small.

Is it mechanical or vacuum secondaries?
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Havasukona455 on April 22, 2014, 11:21:51 AM
I pulled the numbers off of it last night and it's actually a 650 sorry. The po told me it was a 750 when I bought it


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 22, 2014, 11:29:07 AM
I pulled the numbers off of it last night and it's actually a 650 sorry. The po told me it was a 750 when I bought it


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: carrera202 on April 22, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Possibly, though i think the 750 single feed may be a little small.

Is it mechanical or vacuum secondaries?
I have a 750 demon mechanical secondaries sittin in the garage if you are interested shoot me a text 951-675-0727 wes
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: H20Nut21Bahner on April 22, 2014, 03:03:01 PM
Carrera .. if no one elses wants it, what are you asking for the demon?
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Cliffjumper on April 22, 2014, 07:10:00 PM
Carrera .. if no one elses wants it, what are you asking for the demon?
I second that ?

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: carrera202 on April 23, 2014, 08:06:40 AM

Carrera .. if no one elses wants it, what are you asking for the demon?
ill let you guys know what happens and if it's still available for ya


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: stierney11 on April 23, 2014, 06:16:33 PM
Jegs is having a sale on holley carbs


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 23, 2014, 09:21:04 PM
Thanks for the heads up

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 23, 2014, 09:24:44 PM
Well thanks to the advice from a few members (Jake, Hal, and Wes) I finally got the intake out. This thing was a BITCH.

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Unfortunately I did cause a little damage so I'll have to do some repairs.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 23, 2014, 09:27:58 PM
And a couple pics of the mess that I have inside. This weekend I'll get it cleaned out and washed down. And start the fun sanding process. Though I do plan on getting the top half finished before I get to much done so I don't have to much over spray

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: carrera202 on April 24, 2014, 06:55:20 AM
Looking good brother keep up the pics 🍻


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Liquid wrench on April 24, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
This was a great read! Keep up the great work and yeah keep posting pics! I love to see a build come together!


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on April 24, 2014, 01:24:02 PM
This was a great read! Keep up the great work and yeah keep posting pics! I love to see a build come together!


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thanks man, im really proud of the way it has come out so far. and look forward to getting it done!
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on May 02, 2014, 04:26:16 PM
Not much progress on the boat. Been busy and then got sick :/

Scored this today for 60 bucks

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: ka0tyk on May 02, 2014, 04:41:29 PM
Not much progress on the boat. Been busy and then got sick :/

Scored this today for 60 bucks

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all that hard work and stickin with the olds?   ^-^
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on May 02, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
all that hard work and stickin with the olds?   ^-^

Just to get on the water. I already have it, its mounts, and everything else needed. The plan is to throw the olds in so that I can get it going. Then build a BBC slowly.

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on May 02, 2014, 04:50:03 PM

all that hard work and stickin with the olds?   ^-^

What's wrong with the olds?


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: NastyNate on May 02, 2014, 11:02:17 PM

Not much progress on the boat. Been busy and then got sick :/

Scored this today for 60 bucks

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Boats coming out nice. I still have some of the olds parts that came out of that boat if your interested. They are just sitting here in the garage so if you want them come pick them up. Send me a text and I will send you some pictures of what I have.

I also have these.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on May 03, 2014, 04:47:05 AM
Boats coming out nice. I still have some of the olds parts that came out of that boat if your interested. They are just sitting here in the garage so if you want them come pick them up. Send me a text and I will send you some pictures of what I have.

I also have these.


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Nate!

You will most definitely have a text coming your way!

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on May 03, 2014, 08:56:38 AM
Steve I also have some stuff for you dude


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: Joecochrane on June 14, 2014, 09:15:51 AM
Any updates? I just read the whole thread I have a 70 rogers cyclone and I wanna see yours get finished!
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on June 14, 2014, 01:42:16 PM
Any updates? I just read the whole thread I have a 70 rogers cyclone and I wanna see yours get finished!

Not really. Life's been happening which means 0 time to work on it. Last weekend I had about an hour and a half and did some block sanding on the top.

O I did learn its not a 68 its a 69 and the 13th one built in 69

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: carrera202 on July 01, 2014, 08:04:33 PM

Carrera .. if no one elses wants it, what are you asking for the demon?
carb up for sale


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on July 15, 2014, 08:03:30 PM
ok its been a little while, but i did get a chance to get some more work done. I did some more wet block sanding tonight and it seems to be really close.

I think just a little bit more filling, some slight repairs and another coat of primer, final wet sanding and ill be ready for paint.

after blocking with 220

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And heres some pics of the final filling/repairs i have left to do

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really hard to see, but semi filled spots as in the above pic

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grind this crack out and fill with duraglass

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and this is the last crack i need to deal with, i think this one is deep though

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: carrera202 on July 15, 2014, 08:13:38 PM
Lookin good bud


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: GoinBrokeBahner on July 15, 2014, 09:15:57 PM
Get down Steve!! Let me know whenever you need a hand. My boy starts his football season soon but I'd still like to fill some time learning how to work on boats.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on July 15, 2014, 09:18:45 PM
Get down Steve!! Let me know whenever you need a hand. My boy starts his football season soon but I'd still like to fill some time learning how to work on boats.


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on July 15, 2014, 09:18:57 PM
Lookin good bud


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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 14, 2015, 10:01:55 AM
Anyone want this thing? I'm giving the boat away but keeping the trailer.

Just made a purchase of another boat that i will focus on building. It is mostly complete minus a motor and jet. Not the mountain of work left on this thing.

It does have the title. Would liek it gone Saturday or Sunday if possible.
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: MorePower on January 14, 2015, 05:55:24 PM
Damn steve!!!! Can't believe you're giving it away. What did you pick up?
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 15, 2015, 09:11:29 AM
I bought the 70 Weiman from Capogniracing. It is WAY more complete and a lot of stuff that i wanted to do is already done.

Plus it saves me literally thousands by the time i count the wiring, seats, gauges, bolts, screws, etc....

Gonna pull the interior out this weekend and start cleaning up whats there. Lay some new carpet. And start saving for a motor.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Ftapatalk_1421206483512_zpsnuvajjhq.jpeg&hash=26938327ece3064e3aabcd88d302b8eeab2d943f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/Mobile%20Uploads/tapatalk_1421206483512_zpsnuvajjhq.jpeg.html)

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Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: capogniracing on January 15, 2015, 09:14:57 AM

I bought the 70 Weiman from Capogniracing. It is WAY more complete and a lot of stuff that i wanted to do is already done.

Plus it saves me literally thousands by the time i count the wiring, seats, gauges, bolts, screws, etc....

Gonna pull the interior out this weekend and start cleaning up whats there. Lay some new carpet. And start saving for a motor.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Ftapatalk_1421206483512_zpsnuvajjhq.jpeg&hash=26938327ece3064e3aabcd88d302b8eeab2d943f) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/Mobile%20Uploads/tapatalk_1421206483512_zpsnuvajjhq.jpeg.html)

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(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv643%2Fsteves86ta%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Ftapatalk_1421206487034_zpszivzuppf.jpeg&hash=6a79f30c803ed60e04eb1573deb36c45c1cccc84) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steves86ta/media/Mobile%20Uploads/tapatalk_1421206487034_zpszivzuppf.jpeg.html)
nice meeting you! Good luck with the build.


"RTCP"
Title: Re: 1968 Rogers
Post by: steves86ta on January 23, 2015, 09:00:27 AM
Gonna make a new thread for the Weiman,

Brad, you can kill this one
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