SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: KonaCole on December 20, 2007, 11:02:59 AM
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Well, this is one of those deals that I usually get involved with, I bought the bost last summer and it ran ok looked ok. However, ok doesn't usually cut it for me for too long. It started off as an upgrade in carb and ignition and has turned into a resto project. (Kinda like drinking in a way: "I'll just have a couple" then the next morning you wake up saying "What the F**K did I do last night")
So, I have the boat stripped and about $3000.00 or so in parts (carb, intake, MSD, Mondello oil restrictor kit (yes I am staying with the olds), throttle, shift, steering cables, new exhaust logs, pump rebuild kit, guages, just to name what I can remember off the top of my head!)
I am almost done building some new aluminum tanks and here are my .02 cents on that:
If you need new ones, BUY them! Maybe I shouldn't say that because it has not that bad, but I could have had some shipped to the door for $650.00. If you plan to build your own, use 1/8" as I used 12ga and I am having to TIG them and aluminum is not the easiest sh*t to weld!!
Here are my future plans (please comment back if you feel I my be going down the wrong road on something):
Engine: 455 olds G heads: Builder: Hugh Reynolds in Bakersfield
Fresh rebuild with new cam, install oil restriction system w/ 10 qt marine pan (currently has stock olds pan), MSD ignition, Polished Edelbrock Performer intake, Holley 750 dbl pumper, staying with logs, and Powder Coating block and heads metallic orange. Wanting comp ratio @ about 9.0 or 9.5 to 1 if possible ??? I would like to see 400 hp ???
Pump: Berkley 12JC, B Impeller, Berkley jetavator
Standard rebuild with swith to AA impellor and powder coating to match engine Maybe a loader, anyone care to share some performance gains?
Trailor: American Custom Single Axle
Some welding upgrades, powder coat to match pump and engine, new wheels and tires, polished diamond plate steps and new lights / wiring
Hull: 1971 Kona 18'
Paint: White w/ pearl orange accents
Seats: White w/ orange piping and stripes
Carpet: ??? ??? maybe black
Here are some pics of the boat as it looked when I bought it:
Please let me know if you have any suggestions.
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Opps here are the pics
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Well, this is one of those deals that I usually get involved with, I bought the bost last summer and it ran ok looked ok. However, ok doesn't usually cut it for me for too long. It started off as an upgrade in carb and ignition and has turned into a resto project. (Kinda like drinking in a way: "I'll just have a couple" then the next morning you wake up saying "What the F**K did I do last night")
So, I have the boat stripped and about $3000.00 or so in parts (carb, intake, MSD, Mondello oil restrictor kit (yes I am staying with the olds), throttle, shift, steering cables, new exhaust logs, pump rebuild kit, guages, just to name what I can remember off the top of my head!)
I am almost done building some new aluminum tanks and here are my .02 cents on that:
If you need new ones, BUY them! Maybe I shouldn't say that because it has not that bad, but I could have had some shipped to the door for $650.00. If you plan to build your own, use 1/8" as I used 12ga and I am having to TIG them and aluminum is not the easiest sh*t to weld!!
Here are my future plans (please comment back if you feel I my be going down the wrong road on something):
Engine: 455 olds G heads: Builder: Hugh Reynolds in Bakersfield
Fresh rebuild with new cam, install oil restriction system w/ 10 qt marine pan (currently has stock olds pan), MSD ignition, Polished Edelbrock Performer intake, Holley 750 dbl pumper, staying with logs, and Powder Coating block and heads metallic orange. Wanting comp ratio @ about 9.0 or 9.5 to 1 if possible ??? I would like to see 400 hp ???
Pump: Berkley 12JC, B Impeller, Berkley jetavator
Standard rebuild with swith to AA impellor and powder coating to match engine Maybe a loader, anyone care to share some performance gains?
Trailor: American Custom Single Axle
Some welding upgrades, powder coat to match pump and engine, new wheels and tires, polished diamond plate steps and new lights / wiring
Hull: 1971 Kona 18'
Paint: White w/ pearl orange accents
Seats: White w/ orange piping and stripes
Carpet: ??? ??? maybe black
Here are some pics of the boat as it looked when I bought it:
Please let me know if you have any suggestions.
You forgot the pics
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I would go with the A impellor . Should put your RPM's right around 48oo . Why did you decide on the B ?
-beerjet-
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The wood decking looks great! :)
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I would go with the A impellor . Should put your RPM's right around 48oo . Why did you decide on the B ?
-beerjet
The pump currently has a B in it ans I was advised by the Berkley tech to go to an A2. If I use the A2 and don't like it, does anyone know how much it cost to turn one down?
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I like this pic because it looks like the motor is comfortably sitting in a back seat ::)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2231.0;attach=8546;image)
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I will definately follow this post, I did the same thing with the same hull (71 Kona) last year, not to "Jack" your thread but rather a little inspiration (here are the before and after pics). I started out just changing the carprt and ended up doing the same thing as you are doing ;D
My only regret is not switching out the olds motor, Don't get me wrong the "fresh" motor was bitchen, but I spend more time racing around than I do cruising and if thats the way you drive I would suggest building to suit your speed. I spent the last two months of summer changing out heads, dealing with blowby, bearings,(more than once) I still have the olds in it, but if I can locate a bbc, I'm all over it, I could have had a mean-azz chevy motor with the same amount of money I have put in this one keeping it alive
Are you keeping the wood deck or painting over it?
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Best of luck with the restoration, if you have any questions I'll be happy to help if I can.
John
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Thats what I need to see ;D Very nice job!!! I will start posting pics as I get back to work on it (been lazy for the last couple months). I am going to paint over the deck. The boat doesn't look anything like it does in the picture (as far as shine goes). Those were actually pics that I got from the guy who sold it to me. He rubbed the boat down with Marvel Mistery Oil before taking the pics. Also there are a couple of stress cracks in the gel, so well, time to get out the wallet.
As for the Olds, I will probably kick myself in the azz this time next year and say I should have listened, but I have already bought non returnable parts (Mondello's). I will mostly be sking and crusing with an occasional WOT burst. (At least that is the plan, but you know how those change!)
As far as your oiling and bearing issues, do you have a Mondello oil restrictor kit. Do you have any idea what kind of speed you are getting? And what size impeller are you running?
By the time I get this thing together, you may be sick of my questions!
Thanks,
Cole
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Hello Cole,
My best speed was at lake San Antonio (the boat absolutely loves that lake for some reason) and it gps'd at 76 but thats only on that lake, I ran the 110 octane at havasu and it was around the same but I didnt have the gps to know for sure. It has an A impeller droop and place diverter. The block has restrictors but we put a stock oil pump in it the first time and the low oil pressure shortened its life considerably, one thing I would recommend is put some oil return lines from the heads to the pan so you can get the oil back in the pan quickly ,but do it before the pan is bolted up and motor installed. And though you mentioned running the stock exhaust, the biggest difference of all was putting the twisties on it , letting that motor breathe was the single best improvement I made, they do get hot but it is worth it when you want the performance, I carry a picture of a bad header burn from one of the guys on the boards and show it to everyone who gets in the boat. Very effective but still I worry.
Good luck and have fun with it,
John
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Its been a while, so here is an update:
I had the engine built by Hugh Reynolds here in Bakersfield:
468 ci
10:1
Comp 280H cam (Lost on Run in :'()
Full MSD ignition with 6AL
Should make 1 HP per ci, but we will see
We (dad and I) put the pump back together last weekend (with some tips from the pros at JBP):
Berk 12 JC with an aluminum A2 (I hope that it will turn 4800 or so)
I decided to keep the Berk Jet a Vator for now as it worked pretty good before I took the boat apart.
Interior:
Built all new seats (except for the buckets as they were newer and in good shape)
White with orange piping and silver stripe upholstry
Gray carpet purchased but not installed yet (boat is at painters)
All new guages (Hardin Marine)
All other new hardware purchased from JBP (great people to work with)
Built new aluminum saddle tanks
purchased stereo (Clarion)
Trailer:
New bearings / seals / bearing buddies
New cross members
boxed in frame
new fenders
polished diamond plate
new wiring / LED lights
new bunks
(I just need to buy some wheels and tires)
Hull:
At Painters currently (Kerry Naselroad, Bakersfield)
Shot White last week
Orange, silver, dark grey (black with silver) shot yesterday
Pinstriper (Ronnie Beam, Bakersfield) should be there today to work his magic
Some metal flake bling will be going into the colors and then clear
Hopefully I will get it back next week and start rigging this SOB and get it wet next month.
Here are a couple of pics (I have a bunch more, but I need to resize them all):
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looking good, keep the pics coming :)
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Looks killer,
The one thing that'll drive you nuts is the oil drain line, I had the same one on mine and it took about 6-7 hours to drain the oil out of it. and if you get water in the oil the milkshake will take DAYS to drain. I drilled and topped out the bung and ran a 1/2 hardline to a bigger flexable drain line. I havn't changed the oil yet, but I am sure it'll cut the oil change time down considerably.
it looks like its going to be a really clean boat, cant wait to see it finished up.
John
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I like this pic because it looks like the motor is comfortably sitting in a back seat ::)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2231.0;attach=8546;image)
I like that pic because of the wood bow.
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I like that pic because of the wood bow.
Yeah,
We were going to try and save the wood grain look and incorporate a new paint scheme around it, but it was to far gone.
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Yeah,
We were going to try and save the wood grain look and incorporate a new paint scheme around it, but it was to far gone.
Damn, That's too bad. It looked so cool!! Old School with a custom paint job around it would have been the cat's meow!! ;)
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Here are some pics with the colors added. It still needs pinstriping, a little bling and clear coat.
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You are doin a kick ass job . I'm lovin the paint too . Great work .
-beerjet-
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yeah, that paint job looks nice and it aint even done yet....its modern with a retro feel....i dig it a lot.
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Very nice job on the paint. Great balance of old school with tasteful updating.
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Thanks,
Here are some pics of the striping:
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I dont know if I screwed up by taking the orange up the deck, but for what I have in the job, I wanted some color up there.
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Paint scheme and colors (including the deck) look awesome! :o
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No worries, it looks perfect the way it is. Just don't go overboard with orange in the interior.
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No worries, it looks perfect the way it is. Just don't go overboard with orange in the interior.
Funny that you mentioned that because the uphoulster (sp) F'd up and didn't put as much orange in the seats that I wanted (I was not happy individual), but I think that they are going to work good after seeing the paint. I'll take some pics of the seats tonight.
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paint looks great, keep up the good work :)
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Originally I thought you should perserve the wood grain. Kind of rare to see the whole deck like that. Now that its painted it makes the woodgrain look like that old 70's paneling we used to have in our house next to the cork and mirror squares. Bitchen paint job.
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Originally I thought you should perserve the wood grain. Kind of rare to see the whole deck like that. Now that its painted it makes the woodgrain look like that old 70's paneling we used to have in our house next to the cork and mirror squares. Bitchen paint job.
I believe that wood paneling that you are talking about is what they used
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Here are some pics of the progress that we made on the Kona this weekend.
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wow, that boat is turning out VERY nice. keep it up!
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Thanks,
This thing is sooo close to getting wet. I am waiting on a dip stick (I broke the tube on mine :banghead: ) and a throttle bracket. Hopefully I can get to the lake at the end of the week and see how it runs.
These pics do not do it justice, the boat was dirty. I washed and put the first coat of wax on it last night. Thats kind of funny because I thought that I was going to have to use good ol school paste wax, but the painter told me to use turttle wax spray wax (that is all he uses on his boats). I have been using that on my dads bass boat for years and thought that I would be told that it was not good enough.
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Thanx for the pic's , I am gonna steal your idea on the speakers.
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Thanx for the pic's , I am gonna steal your idea on the speakers.
No prob. One suggestion: On the front speakers, I would reccomend moving them back closer to the seats if you are going to use side panels like I did. I put the pockets where I probably should have put the speakers. The sound seems to get trapped under the bow. But don't get me wrong, it is still pretty loud. I was in the pool yesterday (in the back yard) and my dad turned on the stereo (in the front yard) to show a friend and I could hear it very clear. Not bad for some Clarions and a Bazooka.
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Just a pic of the finished product. This was from a trip to Clear Lake.
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Hi Kona
sweet looking ride. love the interior on it and great paint job. hopefully when i can get working on mine it will turn out half as good as yours. congrats on a sweet job.
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Hey Kona, a very fine lookin ride ;D Nice job on all of it ;D ;D mark
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Great job.
Glad to see another project hit the water. (hint: 2sav) ;D
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Thanks it took about 6 months total to do it all. Now I am starting to get the itch to get back into sand rails, but that will have to wait a while. ;D
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yes! more inspiration! ;D