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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: CauseforDivorce on January 02, 2014, 07:09:39 PM
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Pulled everything. Getting ready to flip it and re-gel the bottom.
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And my wife thought she was going to park her new car in the garage... :screwy:
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are you going to regel it in the garage?
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We will be doing it at a friends (BIG) garage set up for flipping, geling and laying up molds. All of the glass work will be done there I think.
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Finally got the boat back to its original state. 2 gallons of paint remover, 1 roll of 80 grit DA discs, 40 razor blades and approx. 100 hours of labor.
I don't know what kind of paint was used on it but, it was some tuff stuff for sure.
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Found a hole in the side too. :mad:
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Almost done with the stripping.
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DONE! I found out this was a good way to get my 10 yr old off the DAMN video games.
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Now starting the glass work...
A good friend of mine Adam that owns Kober Kat boats will be doing this. Every hole that doesn't need to be there will be filled including the old through transom exaust holes and the old bow rail holes.
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I never thought I would be looking forward to grinding 1/4 inch deep pockets all over my boat but, it feels good that it will be done right.
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This is close to what it will look like when its done. the wood grain was destroyed with a big spider so keeping that is out of the question now. I would have to grind the whole side to get it to match right. It would probably look like a hack job when it was done.
I'm going to keep the nostalgic lines of a Spectra but, give it an updated look without over doing it. The wood grain will be painted over with a charcoal grey metallic, base white, all of the red with a bright blue metallic and a red metallic 1/4 in. pinstripe outlining all of the blue.
I asked my 8 yr old what color he wanted the boat to be and he said like the American flag colors. NOW, CAN I ARGUE WITH THAT... :D :D :D
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This was my first clue that this boat needed to go back down to the bones.
Nothing like these plastic screw plugs holding the cleats on... :screwy:
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There has been a change in plans for the gel,,, With the amount of repairs being done and given it's history of cracking. I'm afraid that if I do this it will crack again. So I am trying to find primers and paints that will allow some flexibility in the glass without cracking the paint. I am looking very closely at additives like are used in paints for plastic bumpers on cars. I am aware that if the hull is abused again like it was in the past some stress cracks will reappear >:( but, it will make it a lot easier to fix with standard off the shelf colors.
If anyone has any ideas or experience with this,,, PLEASE DONT BE SHY...I'm all ears.
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This weekend I will be putting the engine back in to figure out where the new exaust holes will be in the transom. After they are cut, pull the engine back out and GO TO TOWN ON IT!
A lot of thanks to 78Southwind (Jerry) for finding these headers for me :thumbup: No more logs!
The exaust will be done like ka0tyk on his Bahner.
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Awesome work! I have a soft spot for Spectra 20s as that's what I grew up on.
The new paint scheme will look great
I can't wait to see the finished product.
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12 week project and 5 weeks down
Completion date is 3/30/14...
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A boat project with a schedule; I'm impressed! Hopefully see you out on the water after March then.
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Going to be at the Avi for mothers day 9-11 of may. Been wanting to make that trip with SCJB members for a long time!
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awesome progress! keep up the great work. ive heard that cutting the "anti-skid" down on the deck is one of those most difficult things you can do when repainting a boat.
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I'm grinding it off and will replace it. I will reveal how when I'm done with it if my idea works.
That way I only look stupid,,,hahahahaha :o
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Lots of work...getting ready to do something similar
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Lots of work...getting ready to do something similar
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There is a lot of info on the boards to help you...good luck with it...
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Final stage of glass and trying to block it down..
Hopefully in primer today if all goes as planned...
Then block it some more..
The last time this boat was sanded, they really dug into it.
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This weekend I will be putting the engine back in to figure out where the new exaust holes will be in the transom. After they are cut, pull the engine back out and GO TO TOWN ON IT!
A lot of thanks to 78Southwind (Jerry) for finding these headers for me :thumbup: No more logs!
The exaust will be done like ka0tyk on his Bahner.
Looking good.
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Nice job on the transom. 8)
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Dug out more cracks.
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Here they are.
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Still filling some spots with a fine kitty hair (very thin).
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Shot a high build primer. Used Evercoat Feather Fill. This stuff is great. Its a sprayable filler for fiberglass with a catalyst like bondo and you can only thin it 10% with acetone.
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The boat paint layout looks awesome. As far as the additives for the plastic bumpers, when I used to paint cars we didn't use any of the additives as the paint has some flex in it. The additives didn't seem to help. This was 8 years ago. If the glass cracks the paint will crack on top of it. If you have someone helping you and has used a good one then maybe they are better today. Any catalyzed paint should give you a great job. Are you doing base and clear? Put all you striping under clear too. Keep the pics coming.
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Using single stage urethane. 74 ford white. Cure, stripes and then scuff. Urethane clear over entire boat.
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That is how I paint it. The clear will help protect everything under it and gives you a chance to fix any imperfections in the colors. Should look great for years to come.
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Yep that works really well
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Blocking seems to be never ending...
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Pics
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That's looking good
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Final primer sealer coat on everything vertical...now for the bow. The bow is very wavey. Lots of building and blocking left to be done still but will be in the booth saturday for the white.
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I had some help...He slept good last night...hahaha
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Looking good
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hurry up and finish so i can bring mine over next. ^-^
great work so far!
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Thanks,
This was way more than I expected and still not perfect. Its 100 times better than it was for sure... This boat had a lot of pin holes and cracks in the gel. Some places like the top areas off the boat which would be the bottom of the mold, were very heavily loaded with the red gel. Some areas were super thin on the sides to 1/8" or better in the low spots in the mold. Where ever I sanded to bare glass there was air bubbles, could explain the horrific amount of stress cracks.
If I had it to do over again, I would wrap the whole boat in one layer of glass and build from there.
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hurry up and finish so i can bring mine over next. ^-^
great work so far!
Anytime! I'm starting to get the hang of this. Practice Right ;D
Maybe after this my Dad will let me do his 69' Corvette >:D
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Partly painted
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What do u have the boat sitting on ? I'm need to get mine off the trailer to do the bottom
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What do u have the boat sitting on ? I'm need to get mine off the trailer to do the bottom
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He used a boat dolly.
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Didn't really think about it at the time but that looks scary now that I see a picture of it..
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Back to blocking... :banghead:
Found some bad spots, On the first coat, I found more small stress cracks on the top of the gunnels. Filled them and blocked the whole boat. Also got some more waves out of it that showed up with a nice gloss coat. Bought more paint and going to do it again tomorrow after work. This time all the crap is gone I'm sure...YEA RIGHT!
Hopefully this time will do it. I made a mistake by shooting white over gray laquer primer surfacer, should of tinted it white. I went through 7.5 qts of mixed material and it didn't cover all the way. Now the boat is sealed and I think 3 qts will finish it.
Then finally after 340 hrs of stripping, grinding, glass work, sanding, building, priming, blocking and painting I CAN GO ON TO SOMETHING ELSE ;D
Not to mention approx. 12 cases of beer! I think I will be keeping this boat for a while...
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Base white is done. Iwas able to get about 90% of the waves and low spots out of it and it looks like I got all of the stress cracks for now. Time to scuff and do the stripes.
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Dowels prime and paint. Still have some bad spots that need to be fixed this weekend. .
Then wiring starts.
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Made some more progress. Pewter gray met. over the wood grain and deep blue met. (light stick fine line tape My Ass)! That stuff took off some of my gray..>:( lucky the spot is only 1/4 in wide and the red pinstripe will be 3/8 in...
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Your thread makes me feel ambitious. ...
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If I could get ambitious I would clean my garage:D
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If I could get ambitious I would clean my garage:D
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Whoa whoa whoa!
Don't go trying to cure cancer buddy. ...
We're building boats here.
Killer work!
Can't wait to see it.
Mine has a bunch of chips in it from when it was popped out of the mold.
Really wish I could fix them.
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I cant walk around my boat and my garage has white dust all over everything...
I say its time to pop a cold one and let the kids earn there keep;D
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I cant walk around my boat and my garage has white dust all over everything...
I say its time to pop a cold one and let the kids earn there keep;D
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That last pic of your son, he looked like he was definitely over it.
They'll love you more for it later in life though.
"Cold ones" need to go on my check list though. ..
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Absolutely stunning!
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If I could get ambitious I would clean my garage:D
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X2 on that mine is a dirty mess
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Had to have a little fun today...A little heavy for the boy still..:o
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Had to have a little fun today...A little heavy for the boy still..:o
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looks like a 1911a1 ?
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Taurus PT 1911 AR
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That last pic of your son, he looked like he was definitely over it.
They'll love you more for it later in life though.
"Cold ones" need to go on my check list though. ..
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trying to keep him away from videogames
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Stripes are almost done finally...
Scuff and clear tomorrow.
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Wow!!! Beautiful boat. Those four colors look awesome together. Keep up the great work.
SRC
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trying to keep him away from videogames
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believe me your doing it right. I've raised two girls and one boy the same way, my girls put themselves through college and are on there way to being doctor's and my son's a federal tactical law inforcment officer
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Awesome job that looks great
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bitchin paint concept!! O0 O0
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Thank You for the complements.
As far as the kid, he is doing alot better in school and at home. If he keeps up the good work and keeps practicing with his .22 I will see about putting him in youth small bore this summer vacation and see how he does. Adam is really good with a scope and tuning his skills with open sights now.
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Wow, that thing looks amazing!
I am putting my Spectra 20, back together now. It is an inboard/outboard, though.
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That thing is turning out BEAUTIFUL. Very nice work. I have a 76, 21' Sleekcraft that looks very much like that hull that I started re-doing 3-4 years ago before I got my Tunnel. I got as far as replacing the stringers and transom before it came to a screeching halt. I still want that boat done bad just to cruse around on.
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Its been a very long 4 months so far. "burning the candle at both ends". I have only a few parts left to get, then just a matter of assembly.
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Back on the trailer with some help from my neighbor John aka "VW Howard" and my son.
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Pump is done and have to go pick it up from Jim Rich. Now I have to finish painting the pump and the swim step. The pump and engine should be done and installed by Tuesday, then the wire and hose mess begins. Hopefully see water by Good Friday.
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Keep the pictures coming. Looks great
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That is a good looking boat
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Thank You
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A couple stress cracks already came back but they only show themselves when the boat cooks in the sun. As soon as it cools down they go away. If that is all that came back after fixing at least 100 or more Im think I did pretty good.
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I guess you can't use the boat in the sun... :)
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Yep...I guess your right:D
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If you don't grind the gel coat all the way into the glass and even grind the glass until there gone the stress cracks will always come back. It's just like concrete if you poor a layer of concrete over a cracked piece of concrete the cracks will migrate into the new concrete
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I thought I got them all but I guess I missed a few small ones.
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I thought I got them all but I guess I missed a few small ones.
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there tuff to do I've done a couple of motor homes with them and you never can get all unless you grind it all down and regell coat the whole boat and at some point it doesn't make any sense. P's your boat looks great you did a fantastic job
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there tuff to do I've done a couple of motor homes with them and you never can get all unless you grind it all down and regell coat the whole boat and at some point it doesn't make any sense. P's your boat looks great you did a fantastic job
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Thank You...
I'll be honest...The time did come where I finally said enough is enough. Ground out alot of cracks and rebuilt a couple of corners and filled alot of unnecessary holes. Its alot of work but, I am very happy with it so far.
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I'd be happy if I was you it looks great
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The engine is finally going in. :D
THERE IS SOME LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL...
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Sexy time
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Im feeling the HAPPY DANCE coming on!
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You forgot to take out that white thing behind your engine.
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You forgot to take out that white thing behind your engine.
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When will we be seeing yours on the water?
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When will we be seeing yours on the water?
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Soon, just working out all the bugs.
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Soon, just working out all the bugs.
Nothing less than full throttle passes will be acceptable.
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Can I have your exhaust
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You forgot to take out that white thing behind your engine.
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If I got rich quick, I would put a Hawk Drive in it.
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Nothing less than full throttle passes will be acceptable.
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:o
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If I got rich quick, I would put a Hawk Drive in it.
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I thought that was part of the plan.
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Plans change when you run out of $$$$$
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The boat haa been clear coated and the AZ numbers are getting painted on monday!
Still wiring and putting the rest of it together. Really late nights! Going to be cutting it close for the AVI...things are getting crossed off the list quick now. Even took Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off work to make sure it's done...
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Kicking ass!
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Good luck, looking forward to seeing your boat in person. You've done a very nice job!
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The new ignition will be installed today. I was running a UNILITE and now going to Pertronix.
Hopefully the changes will be positive...
Rewarder TT headers w/ 2 1/4" primaries instead of logs
Pertronix instead of a Unilite
A impeller instead of a AA
Blueprinted pump and a Place Diverter also changing out the sport loader for a stock grate per HallettDaves recommendation.
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The cut and buff will have to wait for after the trip.
Im still not done with paint. Still want to do something on the freeboard and some touchup on small spots.
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Where's the pics bro? :)
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Still busting ass until 2 am. Trying to make it to the Avi with my own boat BUT, if I dont get it done I will be borrowing a friends deck boat:D
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Still busting ass until 2 am. Trying to make it to the Avi with my own boat BUT, if I dont get it done I will be borrowing a friends deck boat:D
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I have faith! Plus I really wanna see this thing
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Its just a boat that still needs alot of work..
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It could go either way at this point...opted for cut vynel AZ numbers becuase there s not enough time to paint them...
Still have to do exaust...some wiring and install interior... then pack wheel bearings...
Definitely wont be doing the cut and buff because I still need to build up alot more clear. Also won't be getting the vynel for the side panels for 2 weeks but on a good note it will get fired up today:D
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I hate this part
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I have come to the realization this boat is not going to make it this weekend will be in a deck boat but it will make it Father's Day weekend at Big River... The point is I will be on the river and not going to miss this event. Can't wait to meet everyone there!
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Exaust tips are in..just need the 4" tubing cut and tiged.
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Pretty close to the steps but, they fit together great.
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Good work man! Keep it up! Exhaust looks killer!
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Pretty close to the steps but, they fit together great.
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Is there gonna be a third bracket on the outside of the steps?
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Good work man! Keep it up! Exhaust looks killer!
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Thanks Im trying. Just cant see throwing it together at this point. I want to know that I didn't miss anything.
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Is there gonna be a third bracket on the outside of the steps?
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Nope no third bracket it looks like alot is hanging over on the sides but its the picture. I will be going to my dad's machine shop and making aluminum steps on his CNC mill.
I'm going to use 3/8 plate, rough cut the profile and have it hard anodized and then finish the profile. Wherever it was cut will be a nice machined edge.
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Looks killer
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Thanks
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Get to work Memorial Weekend is coming up quick... O0
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Im on call that week.
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Exaust is welded...
Just needs heat paint for now. Jet Hot it later like the primaries.
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Pretty close to the steps but, they fit together great.
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oh man that looks sweet
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I think you're missing a picture.
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Chris was saying
"Hi Jerry"!
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I think you're missing a picture.
Gotta hand it to him... He worked his ass off for 7 days this week welding stainless parts cleaning machines and was still able to pull this off:D
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I decided to put the dumps in the exhaust. Hopefully they are not too close. Im trying to avoid any chace of reversion and keep the exaust hose cool since they are below the water line.
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It's gonna need a T with a pressure valve that allows the water to go a different route at Idle. It will get sucked back into the engine at idle without it.
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We need some updated pictures... 8)
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IT'S OFFICIAL !!!!!
57 mph on the 1fst run still have more to do...
It's not getting enough fuel... I think that 1/2" to 2 3/8" on carbs will do it...
No reversion problems with water delivery wide open on pump and headers...
Im a very happy boy and so is my 11 year old son that got to drive the boat flat out and throw the "ROOST" that he loves so much thanks to rivertard!
Still trying to make Big River.
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Congrats bud it looks great
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Thank You
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Still not done but having fun anyway.
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Boat looks awesome!
Congrats!
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Those colors look good together.
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Looks great bud
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Trying to save the crappy rub rail just for 1 season till I can order some new stuff or should I say afford it
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Going to finally make it to a SoCal jetboat meet with my boat... Be at big river for Saturday for the day:)
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Looks bitchin!!
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Thanks there will be more to this thread this winter.
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