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Title: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 08:52:17 AM
]Picked up a 75 sanger that's been siting for years in a shed.   
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: shovelhydro396 on February 08, 2015, 08:53:19 AM
Pics pics ???
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 09:34:21 AM
Pics just won't load. Not sure what the problem is
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: Tylertjeep73 on February 08, 2015, 01:15:46 PM
Attach them in the message thing and wait it takes a min sometimes
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: angermgmt on February 08, 2015, 01:32:48 PM
Now that's just a tease.


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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 01:43:48 PM
Old pic from when it still ran
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: Tylertjeep73 on February 08, 2015, 01:49:18 PM
Right !!! I'm dyin
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 02:38:47 PM
Sadly this is what it looks like now. After a ton of leaves removed and a good scrub
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: RushinEliminator17 on February 08, 2015, 02:59:06 PM

Sadly this is what it looks like now. After a ton of leaves removed and a good scrub

Did the dual tunnel ram  for the Olds come with the boat?
If so, and you'd like to sell it- I'm a buyer.



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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: angermgmt on February 08, 2015, 03:14:20 PM
Super Jet


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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 03:39:40 PM
Yep. Super Jet.  And yes I scored the tunnel ram too.  Going to use it on a new motor.   Trying my hand at some upholstery work for it!   Before and after.  I think the white will look better then blue
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 03:47:41 PM
Another pic
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 04:07:22 PM
Did the dual tunnel ram  for the Olds come with the boat?
If so, and you'd like to sell it- I'm a buyer.



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How did you know it was a olds?    Those pics really don't show it
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: RushinEliminator17 on February 08, 2015, 04:48:25 PM

How did you know it was a olds?    Those pics really don't show it

The pic of the inside shows the short block . Seen enough olds blocks, I can recognize one with my eyes closed.

Good score on the t-ram.


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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: angermgmt on February 08, 2015, 05:21:08 PM
Are going to replace the floor?


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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: angermgmt on February 08, 2015, 05:21:12 PM
Are going to replace the floor?


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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: MorePower on February 08, 2015, 05:26:07 PM
Good find
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 08, 2015, 05:47:16 PM
Are going to replace the floor?


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Don't know if I will need to. It feels solid.  Once I get all the old carpet and everything striped out I will get a better idea if I will need to.     Is there a reason you asked?  Is there something I need to look for?
Just going to run a pissed off olds motor so I won't be making any big #s for HP. Probably won't spray more then a 150 shot.   
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: angermgmt on February 08, 2015, 05:51:51 PM
I had some wet rout so I pulled the floor ran a 2x6 from the engine bulkhead to the deck bulkhead then attached the floor to that and re glassed everything. Super strong


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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: RushinEliminator17 on February 08, 2015, 06:22:24 PM

Don't know if I will need to. It feels solid.  Once I get all the old carpet and everything striped out I will get a better idea if I will need to.     Is there a reason you asked?  Is there something I need to look for?
Just going to run a pissed off olds motor so I won't be making any big #s for HP. Probably won't spray more then a 150 shot.   

I have never had a Sanger, but from what Iv heard/known... The SJ are prone to cracking on the floor right under the driver seat... Check there...

If you plan on building a warmed over Olds, make sure you pay big attention to building the lower end correctly.
Timinator wrote a great article on how to correctly build an Olds for power and reliability.

If you want the link to the article, contact me.



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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 09, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
I have never had a Sanger, but from what Iv heard/known... The SJ are prone to cracking on the floor right under the driver seat... Check there...

If you plan on building a warmed over Olds, make sure you pay big attention to building the lower end correctly.
Timinator wrote a great article on how to correctly build an Olds for power and reliability.

If you want the link to the article, contact me.



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The drivers seat did have a few extra mounts on it,  probably a good indication of the crack your talking about, thanks for the heads up.
Plan to run H-Beam rods, forged flat tops, balanced assembly with rear of heads drilled for 1/2" oil returns to a 10 quart dooley pan.   Built a lot of motors never had to many bottom end problems!   Good rods / lots of oil / and balanced.  And know when to let off the skinny pedal.   
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: RushinEliminator17 on February 09, 2015, 09:07:16 AM

I have never had a Sanger, but from what Iv heard/known... The SJ are prone to cracking on the floor right under the driver seat... Check there...

If you plan on building a warmed over Olds, make sure you pay big attention to building the lower end correctly.
Timinator wrote a great article on how to correctly build an Olds for power and reliability.

If you want the link to the article, contact me.



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The drivers seat did have a few extra mounts on it,  probably a good indication of the crack your talking about, thanks for the heads up.
Plan to run H-Beam rods, forged flat tops, balanced assembly with rear of heads drilled for 1/2" oil returns to a 10 quart dooley pan.   Built a lot of motors never had to many bottom end problems!   Good rods / lots of oil / and balanced.  And know when to let off the skinny pedal.   

You really need to read the article I indicated.
Doesn't sound like you have a grasp of what actually needs to be done to the olds for reliability. Your h beam rods without the right prep and machining doesn't mean much.

Olds engines for jet boats are completely different animals than any engine you have or will build.

What heads you plan on running with these "flat top" pistons?



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Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 09, 2015, 11:41:40 AM
You really need to read the article I indicated.
Doesn't sound like you have a grasp of what actually needs to be done to the olds for reliability. Your h beam rods without the right prep and machining doesn't mean much.

Olds engines for jet boats are completely different animals than any engine you have or will build.

What heads you plan on running with these "flat top" pistons?



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found the article
Title: Re: Bringing a old sanger back from the dead
Post by: IslandRunner on February 11, 2015, 08:41:48 AM
Changing from a jc intake/bowl to a dominator. Found the clean out plug Sits down inside 1/4" To deep.  Do you guys mill them down flush?
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