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Title: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 24, 2007, 02:15:00 am: Hello all
Due to problems with my old boathttp://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,800.msg13984.html#msg13984 (http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,800.msg13984.html#msg13984) I bought the Eliminator 21 in the project boat classifiedshttp://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,1212.0.html (http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,1212.0.html)with the idea of useing my old boats 460 and a berkeley jc pump that I have sitting in my garage.
Does anybody know if the hulls where the same for the jet and the outbourd ? This hull has realy small stringers, about 1 inch wide by 1.5 inch high :o and it has about a 6 inch fin mounted to the right side (sponson ?), with none on the left side ??? .
Do you guys think this is a good idea or should I try to get that big ugly black thing hanging off the back of my pretty new boat to run :( ?
By the way, my user name still fits , the outboard has no prop ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 07:32:33 am: I would think the guy you bought it from would knoe best about your question... what did he say? Did you tell him your plans with it?
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: FORKEDUP on July 24, 2007, 08:21:36 am: the stringers on my daytona jet are bigger than what you have, mine are about 1 1/2 wide by probably 5-6 high, i would thing that at the least you would need to replace yours with the bigger ones, but that is just my .02, there are guys on here with much knowledge than me--wait for them
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ps---nice score on the boat, i wanted it, but the wife threatened to castrate me if i bought another project before forked up is done and in the water ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on July 24, 2007, 08:39:17 am: Eliminator never made a 21' daytona jet....only a 22' and a 19' ....that hull was never intended to be universal.

I am not saying it cant be done, but you might run into problems ...similar to the ones you are already seeing.

Youre going to have to put in new stringers (taller and wider apart)...cut a hole for an intake and ....wait....does it have a center 3rd sponsoon like this one...

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if it doesnt, you might as well keep it as an outboat because thats going to be one HUGE project.....if the bottom is flat in the rear between the 2 sponsoons, the pump will not be low enough to catch water.

based on this picture, it looks like you may be in luck...

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anyways...sorry for thinking out loud.....

its still a big project....new stringers, hole for intake, hole for pump....this isnt an easy task, it would take someone with experience and knows the daytona hulls inside and out.

good luck and congrats on the buy!

and welcome to the site!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 24, 2007, 08:48:05 am: I think you should sell it! I'll buy it! That boat with a rebuilt 300 would haul so much ass! It'd be a rocket! Ask goad about the 22' warlock with a 250 that weights twice that how fast it was....Call Eric Simon he'll hook ya up ;) You can thank me later and welcome to the site and "props" on the score... ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 09:01:38 am: I'd keep the outboard on it. ;)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 24, 2007, 09:21:40 am: Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 09:01:38 am
I'd keep the outboard on it. ;)
Priceless.... ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on July 24, 2007, 09:25:42 am: Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 09:01:38 am
I'd keep the outboard on it. ;)

i cant believe im saying this either, but i'd keep the strap on power....its the easy way out too.

the hull was made to be an outboard....no telling how it will behave with a jet in it.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 24, 2007, 09:33:10 am: Not to mention you'd have a whole lot more room in the boat.. ;D.Dude..I'm like TOTALLY pissed I didn't buy that! >:( So if you change your mind please give me a holler!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 03:56:17 pm: Quote from: Warlock on July 24, 2007, 09:21:40 am
Priceless.... ;D

I can't believe that you saw it, read it, and didn't put my qoute in your signature Warlock. ;D

Open mouth, insert foot. ;) Words to live by, errr... :-\
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 24, 2007, 04:27:05 pm: Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 09:01:38 am
I'd keep the outboard on it. ;)
priceless

Sell me the boat! But I would just keep the 300. It should run. tune it up and go. If the guy left it for interior then it might have ran.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 24, 2007, 04:34:50 pm: that was a good buy. glad to see that someone here bought it. Now we just need pictures of the project. there are 21' jet. I think eliminator had two different hull that were 21' libator splashed it and they make jet, o/i and outboard hulls with that mold. buddy has a 21 jet. just my .02
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 02:03:41 pm: Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 24, 2007, 03:56:17 pm
I can't believe that you saw it, read it, and didn't put my qoute in your signature Warlock. ;D

Open mouth, insert foot. ;) Words to live by, errr... :-\
Thanks HR! Can't believe I didn't think of that!!! ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: hotrod56cars on July 25, 2007, 02:52:22 pm: Quote from: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 02:03:41 pm
Thanks HR! Can't believe I didn't think of that!!! ;D

Stay off Plesh's meds, they seem to slow you down. ;) :D

By the time you're done putting new stringers, jet pump, ligning everything up, getting the parts, uhggg... keep the outboard it'll be faster that way, have more interior room, and use less gas.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 02:55:58 pm: Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 25, 2007, 02:52:22 pm
Stay off Plesh's meds, they seem to slow you down. ;) :D

Yea...Butt help me make cents if like Plesh do maybe cause... ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on July 25, 2007, 02:57:43 pm: Quote from: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 02:55:58 pm
Yea...Butt help me make cents if like Plesh do maybe cause... ;D

LMFAO!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: hotrod56cars on July 25, 2007, 03:09:33 pm: Quote from: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 02:55:58 pm
Yea...Butt help me make cents if like Plesh do maybe cause... ;D

NICE! LMFAO ;D

Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 25, 2007, 02:52:22 pm
... By the time you're done putting new stringers, jet pump, ligning everything up, getting the parts, uhggg... keep the outboard it'll be faster that way, have more interior room, and use less gas.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 25, 2007, 03:19:56 pm: Quote from: hotrod56cars on July 25, 2007, 03:09:33 pm
NICE! LMFAO ;D

Look I'm cool!!!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 03:27:30 pm: Quote from: bkplesh on July 25, 2007, 03:19:56 pm
Look I'm cool!!!
Since when?! ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 25, 2007, 03:30:02 pm: wft, lol
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 25, 2007, 03:32:05 pm: Quote from: bkplesh on July 25, 2007, 03:30:02 pm
wft, lol

Yer right Plesh WFT?!?! ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 25, 2007, 03:35:12 pm: TSFS ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 25, 2007, 04:22:45 pm: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-Eliminator-Pickle-Fork-Jet-Boat-856HP-blower-motor_W0QQitemZ230153495841QQihZ013QQcategoryZ80653QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 25, 2007, 09:02:01 pm: Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on July 24, 2007, 08:39:17 am
does it have a center 3rd sponsoon like this one...

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Yes, it looks just like that, but maybe different dimentions. I'm going to take the Berkeley transom plate out to the boat later and see if it looks the same. :-\ I think the center sponsoon may be to narrow, the berkeley plate is 14.5 in wide and when I measered the hull yesterday I think it was only 12.5 in >:( , but I realy cant remember and the boat is at my parents house, I need to do something with my old boat before bringing another project home ;)

And yea I know the outboard will be faster, have more room, and use less fuel, but thay are BUT UGLY and sound downright UNAMERICAN !! I WANT MY BIG BLOCK !! There's nothing better than pulling out the baffeles and wakeing up the whole lake at 7am ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: The Chaz on July 25, 2007, 09:06:58 pm: Amen to that Brother! God bless America and Big Block Power ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Marcsrollin on July 25, 2007, 09:16:51 pm: Just because the transome cover does not fit does not mean the pump won't fit.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: hotrod56cars on July 26, 2007, 12:22:13 am: Quote from: propless on July 25, 2007, 09:02:01 pm
.... And yea I know the outboard will be faster, have more room, and use less fuel, but thay are BUT UGLY and sound downright UNAMERICAN !! I WANT MY BIG BLOCK !! There's nothing better than pulling out the baffeles and wakeing up the whole lake at 7am ;D ;D ;D

Fix it, sell it, make a couple bucks, and buy what you want for keeps. ;) You're going to pay through the assss if you make that a jet.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 26, 2007, 10:06:50 am: Quote from: propless on July 25, 2007, 09:02:01 pm
And yea I know the outboard will be faster, have more room, and use less fuel, but thay are BUT UGLY and sound downright UNAMERICAN !! I WANT MY BIG BLOCK !! There's nothing better than pulling out the baffeles and wakeing up the whole lake at 7am ;D ;D ;D
Merc UNAMERICAN?! Thats the original AMERICAN BOAT motor.. ;) There's nothing better then quitely flying by the obnoxious dude with his baffeles out and the whole lakes sees it since he woke em all up.... ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: FORKEDUP on July 26, 2007, 10:07:22 am: kinda hafta agree with hotrod, fix it and make the money, get another one :)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on July 26, 2007, 10:12:33 am: **** that, fix it and run it. You will be happier doing that. ;D
save the car motor for the car >:D
fix it up and you can pull about 10k for it or run the piss out of it.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Warlock on July 26, 2007, 10:22:19 am: Quote from: bkplesh on July 26, 2007, 10:12:33 am
**** that, fix it and run it. You will be happier doing that. ;D
save the car motor for the car >:D
Nice one Plesh... ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: UNDONE on August 03, 2007, 02:47:12 pm: outboard on this one brotha.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on October 26, 2007, 10:38:18 pm: Well it's Home now !!!! And after a 3 month battle with D.M.V. I finally got my title !! I showed them who's the BOSS ::) ! I started cleaning it up to see what is realy under all those years of grime and dirt >:( .

After some wet sanding and polishing the colors are starting to show again ;D I just did the right side (in the pics) to show the difference .

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here is one showing how small the stringers are in this hull (compaired to the pack of cigs) , and the pretty balsa floors .

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a shot under the deck, still pretty scarry under there. But look how thin the supports are , the ones that go across the boat are 1/4in plywood :o

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Thats all for now. It will take lots of time and money but someday it will be a realy nice boat again !!!!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on October 26, 2007, 11:15:04 pm: I coulda sworn the boat tom was doing that conversion on was this boat.....

anyways....cool boat.....whats your plans with it?
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on October 26, 2007, 11:28:30 pm: Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on October 26, 2007, 11:15:04 pm
I coulda sworn the boat tom was doing that conversion on was this boat.....

anyways....cool boat.....whats your plans with it?

Get the stringers changed and collect parts to convert it to a jet or V drive ! ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: FORKEDUP on October 28, 2007, 10:23:40 am: wow, that is going to clean up into one really bitchen boat, again congrats on the score and glad to hear you got the title
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on October 31, 2007, 10:30:39 am: Hey propless I'm with you dude no freakin 2 smoke motors allowed. Thats no fair though I think your boat is cleaner than mine. Wouldn't it be kinda fun showin up at the dock with the same boat. :o
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on October 31, 2007, 09:28:54 pm: Quote from: SLCKREG on October 31, 2007, 10:30:39 am
Thats no fair though I think your boat is cleaner than mine.

Umm , No ! This thing is nasty !!!! That dirt on the left side of the hull is not dirt and it does not wash off ! I had to wet sand the right side and polish it to get it off >:( . Looks like years and years of no love :'( .

Also, I think your hull is a much better / stronger starting point than mine and It looks pretty good to me. And you got seats ! I dont have any of those :( , one more thing on my list . ;D

SLCKREG ' s Daytona project, we're like twins almost ::). http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,1874.msg24497.html#msg24497
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on November 02, 2007, 06:32:19 pm: Hey propless. I don't think I'll be savin my gel.(maybe for this year) there is some pretty good ouches on mine, painted below the rub rail ,old repairs delaming ect. she's no virgin, anyway bump for a brotha.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 20, 2008, 05:14:08 pm: Oops, Kinda forgot about this thread (been busy with the little boat). Here's a couple shots of it all cleaned up and running :o :o . I still cant believe the motor runs, but I hooked up the batt today and it fired right up again. I haven't done anything more to it, just wanted to update the thread. I really need to finish that little Eliminator so I can get to work on this one. I sat in it today (making vroom vroom noises) and I really think this is going to be a cool boat again someday.

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 20, 2008, 05:21:05 pm: BTW , If anybody has a big (28+ pitch) prop that will fit this (reasonably priced), let me know !!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 05:28:00 pm: Looking for a round ear or a cleaver? I'll have to check what I have left but may have you covered either way, can that 300 turn a 28? Wow, have you thought of gearing up? The most efficient prop pitch is around 24"pitch (by efficient, I mean best bite, or less slip.) I have like fourty props, most of which were Demo's, I will be taking inventory soon (day or two).
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 20, 2008, 06:21:57 pm: GT, let me know what you find ;D . I really don't know anything about OBs or props (see user name ;) ) , but I was told this thing is the 455 olds of OBs, nothing over 5500 rpm or it will start throwing parts (rods) at me :o . It had no prop when I got it and hasn't been on the water in a loooong time (at least two owners). I did find out it should have 300 hp at 5300 rpm and is torque monster. The gearing looks to be between 1.6 and 1.7 to one. I just figured a 28 or more would be a good safe starting point to see what it does without over revving it ???

Here's a shot of the motor, its an early 80s Black Max 300, 3.4 L , Its a HUGE old beast !!! It has 15 splines on the shaft and that's all I know except that it smells funny when it runs (cough, cough) and I have to premix the oil ::) ;D I guess it will also need a thrust washer (?) and whatever else I need to mount the prop (there's nothing on the prop shaft) ????

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 06:45:53 pm: Use good two stroke lube, (I really like Amsoil high perf. premix or their injector oil mixed at about 60:1) these motors have a tendency to "Ring Jack"(when carbon builds up behind the rings and galds the cylinder walls).

If it were mine, with that jackplate and bracing, I would run about a 25" pitch cleaver, or a chopper, it will come out of the hole like an oversized poop, but once on plane should scare the holly hell out of you, overpropping an lugging the motor is as bad as overreving due to the heat build up in the cylinders. I will see what I have left and we'll do some "experimenting", I'm hoping you have the 1.62:1 lower, it would make it rare but faster than hell, when you pull the lower to replace the water pump count the rotations it takes to get the propshaft to go around once (two turns = 2.0:1)

Does it have solid motor mounts? very very important...

Something very few people know/understand, the more oil you run in the premix the "leaner" the engine runs, so "less is more"
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 06:48:32 pm: Just to wet your apetite. ;D

http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=3973.0
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 20, 2008, 08:12:09 pm: Quote from: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 06:45:53 pm
I'm hoping you have the 1.62:1 lower, it would make it rare but faster than hell, when you pull the lower to replace the water pump count the rotations it takes to get the propshaft to go around once (two turns = 2.0:1)

Does it have solid motor mounts? very very important...

Thanks for the advice GT. It takes somewhere between 1.6 and 1.7 turns of the flywheel to get one rotation of the propshaft, (not sure exactly, its been awhile) might be 1.62 :-\ . It does shift into gear (forward and reverse) and appears to have some sort of drive ratchet ?

Motor mounts ??? It has motor mounts ??? Where would they be ??? You can tell I'm a real expert on OBs, cant you ;D .

Also the propshaft is about about 3" or 4" below keel (the lowest setting on the brackets), and the lower unit has no low water pickup (cant find one for this old beast).

Is it hard to change the waterpump ?

A little history on this thing. When I got the boat the owner didn't know if it ran or not (never tried to play with it), so I assumed it was junk. I bought it just for the hull (I always wanted one). I did a compression check and it had the same compression on all 6 cylinders :o (+/- 10 psi). I shot some 2 stroke oil in the cylinders and it started to even out more (haven't checked again it now that it runs). When I finally figured out the wiring :banghead: :banghead: and tried to start it, it ran on three cylinders :( . I started checking things and found no spark on 3 cyl. After a lot of this :banghead: :banghead: it turned out to be a bad switch box . I got a deal on a set of used switch boxes (changed both) and it started right up ( in a HUGE cloud of smoke !!! ), it ran rough but cleared out after awhile. It does not use the fuel pumps on the motor (it has a holly blue pump and regulator, 5 psi), and someone in the past did some modifying on the cover over the carbs.

You now know everything I know about OBs
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 09:14:58 pm: I have a free box of crap for you (not literally), Its a complete ignition/charging system from a Mariner 2.5 and should be the same as yours. BTW we used to call the Black Max's B/M's ::)

The motor mounts (there are 4) are in the clamshell looking pieces on the side of the exhaust housing and two more bolted to the tiller assembly, its very easy to verify, just wiggle the motor by hand back and forth, should be pretty solid, if it wiggles easily and feels like "suspension", you need to upgrade to solid mounts, these are really inexpensive.

The nose cone and LWPU you need is actually for a gen.2 Alpha series drive, with some minor modification works tits.

Like I was saying the gear ratio should be a 1.7:1, but a 1.62:1 would be friggen awsome, keep your eyes open for one, if you can pick it up cheap do it, it would mean another 6-7 MPH.

The water pump change is necissary but pretty straightforward, should be done every other year or more (cheap insurance).

BTW these things normally use about 3psi fuel pressure at the most.

A cleaver type prop is a "transom lifting" prop and will make that tunnel really work, but a "chopper style" would make it much more driveable (makes "slop" count the same as "skill" ;))

Looking forward to seeing this thing run, always wanted a Big block powered stern drive Daytona, Maybe in my "next life"
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 20, 2008, 11:41:30 pm: Quote from: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 09:14:58 pm
I have a free box of crap for you (not literally), Its a complete ignition/charging system from a Mariner 2.5 and should be the same as yours. BTW we used to call the Black Max's B/M's ::)
I love free crap ;D ;D

Motor mounts, I cant feel any wiggles from the motor. If i push really hard on the top of the motor the whole boat / trailer moves first. I think these are the lower ones ???, right , there are plastic covers over them. They look to be solid inside ( I poked around in there a little and everything felt like metal, cant really see the upper ones
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Quote from: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 09:14:58 pm
The nose cone and LWPU you need is actually for a gen.2 Alpha series drive, with some minor modification works tits.
Is this something you can do ? I was told the lower unit on these motors was there downfall (if you break it throw the motor away, no parts available, and nothing will interchange).

Quote from: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 09:14:58 pm
BTW these things normally use about 3psi fuel pressure at the most.

That might explain a few things ::) (slightly rough/erratic idle), pushing fuel past the needle and seat ?

Quote from: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 09:14:58 pm
A cleaver type prop is a "transom lifting" prop and will make that tunnel really work, but a "chopper style" would make it much more driveable (makes "slop" count the same as "skill" ;))
"Slop" count as "skill" !! That's for me !!! But I was thinking something basic just to get an idea what the boat/motor wants. And for me to learn how to drive this thing ::) ( first OB and first tunnel ). I was told something like a 28 pitch bravo would be a good all around starter prop for this thing, but I have no idea if thats right or not ?? I just know that this motor is not suposed to be able to spin high rpm like the new ones.

BTW , Thanks for all the advice on this thing its really hard to find any info on this old timer (worse than a V8 Evinrude)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on July 20, 2008, 11:56:30 pm: Sounds like this thing was set up pretty well, I need to go through about ten years worth of crap, but I think I have a Mercury marine write up on that motor, they came up with it to try and chase down the 300 GT Johnson, but the Johnson is a freak of nature that just simply hauls the mail without asking questions.

The thing that makes that lower special is the vertical driveshaft, its a liitle queer. The aftermarket makes a ton of shit for that thing, but its pricey as hell.

I'll post up some stuff tomorrow.

Right now I'm going to go check my eyelids for leaks.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on July 21, 2008, 11:33:19 pm: Well, it's tomorrow and I didn't get home early enough to do a damn thing pertaining to boats, had to replace the fan in my refrigerator, find out why my washing machine sounded like it was doing dry burnouts in a high school parking lot, and reload all my network settings on the home network so my wifeepoo and daughter could print their homework, sorry for the threadjack but I'll get to you tomorrow propless, TTFN ;)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 21, 2008, 11:46:27 pm: No problem GT, I spent the night cutting out transom adapter plates for the little boat :(, got to get that thing done soon !!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on September 18, 2008, 10:16:14 pm: I got this strange whirley looking thing from Fedex today ???

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I'm not 100% sure but I think it goes here ??? ??? . Even little Leo is not to sure about this weird looking thing :screwy:

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OK, now you can all start talking sh## ! Yea, propless has a prop ::) .

propless hangs head in shame!!! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on September 18, 2008, 10:17:25 pm: how about some pics of leo? damn! he looks huge!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on September 18, 2008, 10:32:38 pm: He is getting to be a big boy, hes taller than my friends 3yr old pit and still has a long way to grow :o

He likes the jet boat better and is ready for a ride ;D

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on November 07, 2009, 02:38:08 am: Well I had to drag this thread back up. I decided to slap this thing together and get it wet. Wanted to see if I would like a boat this big.

I will admit, I hate the OB !!! It sounds gay, smells terrible, and is a pig out of the hole. But it did run good and has lots of power once its on plane.

But I love this hull !!!!! It rides sooooooooo nice. And feels realy light on the water. I did manage to scare myself with it though ;D. I made a few passes in front of the marina at around 3k rpm, trying to figure out the trim system. Then once I was an expert at it ::), I stood on the throttle and started trimming it up. Every time I went up on the trim switch it went faster and gained more rpm, nice. So now the hull has lifted and is moveing along pretty good. I have no idea how fast it was going (didnt bring the GPS) but it felt fast. So my dumb azz decides to trim it up more, BAD IDEA !!! The bow cought a bunch of air and came way up, and it started dancing around from sponson to sponson. Felt just like those little OB race boats on TV look just before they blow over. Good thing I was already an expert and able to save it ::).

Bottom line is, I like the boat and it is going to get a real motor now. As soon as the little blue boat is gone, the surgury can begin. >:D

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on November 07, 2009, 06:18:23 am: remind me, how much money do you have into this thing?

if memory serves me correctly, i think you stole the boat and motor for damn near nothing and got the motor running with little to no parts.

very cool.

and yes, get rid of the dildo. ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Luckie Stiff on November 07, 2009, 07:45:21 am: That is bitchin' Jeff! I'm stoked to see that boat on the water :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on November 07, 2009, 07:52:23 am: X2 you are going to love that hull!! I wondered what you've been waiting for.lol
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: crewchief22 on November 07, 2009, 07:53:32 am: Can't wait to see the surgury in process. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on November 07, 2009, 09:03:42 am: Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on November 07, 2009, 06:18:23 am
remind me, how much money do you have into this thing?

if memory serves me correctly, i think you stole the boat and motor for damn near nothing and got the motor running with little to no parts.

very cool.

and yes, get rid of the dildo. ;D

Your right Brad, I think the total on this one (so far) is right about $ ????. I'm not saying, but its way cheap for what it is. ;D

Just a few more things to get rid of and the cutting starts. >:D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on November 07, 2009, 09:27:21 am: you need to put some motors like mine on the back of that thing...... ;D Or my other motor sitting in the corner....No! Twin's :thumbup: way faster!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on November 07, 2009, 09:43:14 am: Quote from: bkplesh on November 07, 2009, 09:27:21 am
you need to put some motors like mine on the back of that thing...... ;D Or my other motor sitting in the corner....No! Twin's :thumbup: way faster!
I'm no outboeard expert but a couple of those should only set you back 30k to 40k :o :o
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on November 07, 2009, 09:50:18 am: Quote from: bkplesh on November 07, 2009, 09:27:21 am
you need to put some motors like mine on the back of that thing...... ;D Or my other motor sitting in the corner....No! Twin's :thumbup: way faster!

Quote from: SLCKREG on November 07, 2009, 09:43:14 am
I'm no outboeard expert but a couple of those should only set you back 30k to 40k :o :o

Not a chance in ....

Pleshy, you need to come up here and buy this old motor. Its just what you need, for something. :screwy:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on November 07, 2009, 09:51:40 am: Quote from: propless on November 07, 2009, 09:50:18 am
Pleshy, you need to come up here and buy this old motor. Its just what you need, for something. :screwy:

put it on the sand rail! :o
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on November 07, 2009, 01:46:10 pm: Hey Propped, ;D

You need to try a cleaver propeller and lift the ass of the boat some more, you're leaving the poker game with all your chips on the table....

That thing has the potential to fill your linens for sure :thumbup:

If you can get some transom lift with a cleaver, it will "tip toe" a lttle more and make it more comfortable and stable.

Gotta go to the old mans garage and see what pitch is sitting in there...What pitch you ruuning now and at what RPM?

Might as well make it fun for a while ;D

GT
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: bkplesh on November 07, 2009, 02:41:32 pm: Quote from: SLCKREG on November 07, 2009, 09:43:14 am
I'm no outboeard expert but a couple of those should only set you back 30k to 40k :o :o
try 18k to 28k
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on November 07, 2009, 04:38:09 pm: Quote from: bkplesh on November 07, 2009, 02:41:32 pm
try 18k to 28k
Well 28 k is close to 30 ...I told you I was no expert O0. Keep us posted proppy er uh propless er uh. ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on November 07, 2009, 05:58:19 pm: Quote from: GT Jets on November 07, 2009, 01:46:10 pm
Hey Propped, ;D

You need to try a cleaver propeller and lift the ass of the boat some more, you're leaving the poker game with all your chips on the table....

That thing has the potential to fill your linens for sure :thumbup:

If you can get some transom lift with a cleaver, it will "tip toe" a lttle more and make it more comfortable and stable.

Gotta go to the old mans garage and see what pitch is sitting in there...What pitch you ruuning now and at what RPM?

Might as well make it fun for a while ;D

GT

Oh no I dont !! The OB has served its purpose by confirming to me why I dont like it (ugly, smelly, sounds gay, etc, etc).

It has a 14.5" 28 pitch 4 blade on it and I realy dont know what rpm it topped out at, I was a little busy holding on for dear life at that point. When the bow cought to much air and started to climb like that, I looked just like this :o.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: FORKEDUP on November 08, 2009, 04:33:48 pm: congrats on gettin it wet, you will love that hull, keep the pics coming once the "surgery" starts ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 17, 2009, 10:26:30 pm: Sold the motor ;D ;D ;D (pending funds), the guy should be here Sunday am to pick it up. ;D ;D ;D

Sunday afternoon will be tear down time, pull the fuel tanks, carpet, etc, etc. Basicaly strip it down to a bare hull see whats realy there, and how bad it realy is.

Here I go, again :screwy:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 20, 2009, 11:56:11 pm: The guy showed up and bought the OB !! ;D ;D

It took a while to get that thing off there (it was huge), and he didnt like my idea of chopping it off with the sawzall and letting it fall. So, I didnt have much time to get the boat torn down. I did get the carpet out and cleaned up some of the glue, the balsa still looks good. ;D

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: OC2Vegas on December 21, 2009, 01:16:56 pm: Looks better already without that thing stuck to the back!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on December 21, 2009, 03:55:17 pm: Proppy...are you going to set the intake yourself? What intake are you going with? Who is going to do the stringers? How far back are you going to set it(the intake)? Btw is there a question limit over here.lol
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Just Electric on December 21, 2009, 05:29:41 pm: nice should be a fun build. hope you go with a rounded keel
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 21, 2009, 07:06:31 pm: Quote from: OC2Vegas on December 21, 2009, 01:16:56 pm
Looks better already without that thing stuck to the back!

Yea, it looks wayyyyy better, Still need to get those ugly brackets off there. And remove those strange little thinge on top corners of the transom, dont have any idea what there for (maybe somekind of OBers but plug >:().

Quote from: SLCKREG on December 21, 2009, 03:55:17 pm
Proppy...are you going to set the intake yourself? What intake are you going with? Who is going to do the stringers? How far back are you going to set it(the intake)? Btw is there a question limit over here.lol

No.
Standard Berkeley, with rideplate/shoe.
Waiting to get a final price on that, but probobly Greg Shoemakers guy.
Thats not my decision, its up to the Daytona guru.
And no, theres no question limit (that I know of). ;D

Quote from: Just Electric on December 21, 2009, 05:29:41 pm
nice should be a fun build. hope you go with a rounded keel

It already has a rounded keel. Its a 21', I think the flat keel deal was mainly a 19' issue.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Just Electric on December 21, 2009, 07:11:35 pm: nice gonna need some nice big hp to get her to move fast
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 21, 2009, 07:15:59 pm: Get R Done proppy, way cool that the floor looks so good. And now with that thingy m bob off the back, you will be living up to your screen name ;D ;D ;D Good luck with your build and keep the pics coming :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on December 21, 2009, 08:53:55 pm: Quote from: Just Electric on December 21, 2009, 07:11:35 pm
nice gonna need some nice big hp to get her to move fast
There is a guy on pb running upper 90's with a daytona clone and under 700 horses. A cording to a berk chart I only have 500 or so hp....I can't fly her out. I'm 70 ish.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 21, 2009, 09:10:26 pm: Kreg, who is that ? Is it one of the older style hulls (like ours) or one of the newer ones ? I think the newer ones have strakes on the sponsons to help lift them. I asked over there once if it was worth doing to the older hull, but nobody answered.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on December 22, 2009, 09:45:51 am: Hey Proppy...he goes by supersoaker. I wanna say his hull is made my millenium(sp) but don't quote me on that. His hull resembles the new style from the top. I couldn't tell you anything about the bottom. I'm sure you could pm him...or bounce the 21 thread and ask. Edit; Shoe would probably be the better one to ask if it was a worth while mod. I heard a while back that the older hulls were the faster of the 2....but maybe they were talking about the 19's....I can't remember. Personally, I don't think I'd mess with it.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 22, 2009, 09:30:14 pm: Quote from: SLCKREG on December 22, 2009, 09:45:51 am
Hey Proppy...he goes by supersoaker. I wanna say his hull is made my millenium(sp) but don't quote me on that. His hull resembles the new style from the top. I couldn't tell you anything about the bottom. I'm sure you could pm him...or bounce the 21 thread and ask. Edit; Shoe would probably be the better one to ask if it was a worth while mod. I heard a while back that the older hulls were the faster of the 2....but maybe they were talking about the 19's....I can't remember. Personally, I don't think I'd mess with it.

Hmmm, interesting. It makes sence though. In the pics Ive seen of peoples projects (newer style hulls), those things are built like tanks compaired to mine. And lighter is faster. ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 27, 2009, 11:38:21 am: I got all the OB brackets off the other day and did a little more carpet glue removal. I was going to work on it all day today, but now there are other plans. :banghead:

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Looks like I'm done for a while now though, might be summer before I get back on it.

Little Leo decided to give me a Christmas present yesterday (while I was at work). He tried to wash/clean the carpets for me. His only bad idea was to use the water from my water bed to do it. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: He bit a few holes in the bed and by the time I got home from work about half the house was flooded. And he was sleeping on the couch (on his back with his legs in the air, snoring) :mad: :mad: :mad: Half the house now has no carpet and all the furniture is in the living room / dinning room / garage / etc.

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Nordie on December 27, 2009, 12:16:42 pm: you can thank skip later
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 27, 2009, 12:34:00 pm: Quote from: Nordie on December 27, 2009, 12:16:42 pm
you can thank skip later

Yea, THANKS SKIP !!!! Little Leo might want to come back to bako and visit you soon. :mad:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Luckie Stiff on December 27, 2009, 01:24:39 pm: Quote from: propless on December 27, 2009, 12:34:00 pm
Yea, THANKS SKIP !!!! Little Leo might want to come back to bako and visit you soon. :mad:

Who is this Skip you speak of? ;D ;D ;D Leo's mom and dad were having a bit of a domestic dispute last night, I went to break them up and his mom bit me, HARD! I had to go to the ER and get tetanus shot, IV antibiotics and freaking staples in my arm, you can keep him.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: honda1 on December 27, 2009, 01:56:41 pm: proppy just replaced carpet and then wife wanted to paint :banghead: i feel for ya both of you skip evil dogs gotta lov em ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: farmergord on December 27, 2009, 04:42:46 pm: sorry but that storey is just too funny
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GlassCutter on December 27, 2009, 08:51:13 pm: Full moon?
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: OC2Vegas on December 27, 2009, 09:02:01 pm: Home Owners Insurance Claim?
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: honda1 on December 27, 2009, 09:12:39 pm: Home owners ins dont like pits or bull dogs of any kind :sly:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Nordie on December 27, 2009, 09:15:06 pm: the word is terrier!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: OC2Vegas on December 27, 2009, 09:15:13 pm: Quote from: honda1 on December 27, 2009, 09:12:39 pm
Home owners ins dont like pits or bull dogs of any kind :sly:

Thats for dog bites. No matter what dog you have they will cover the water damage to the house ie carpet, drywall, paint, etc.

And you dont have to say the dog pop'd the bed. Came home and the house was flooded...What dog, never mention the dog.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on December 27, 2009, 09:15:41 pm: Quote from: honda1 on December 27, 2009, 09:12:39 pm
Home owners ins dont like pits or bull dogs of any kind :sly:

Could always use the fat chick defense :thumbup: :-\

GT ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: honda1 on December 27, 2009, 09:21:56 pm: fat chick idea sounds good they will feel sorry for you >:D no ofense to the real better haft :-[
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: IRRebel on December 27, 2009, 10:28:03 pm: Quote from: GT Jets on December 27, 2009, 09:15:41 pm
Could always use the fat chick defense :thumbup: :-\

GT ;D

Ehhh that would involve serious issues with the Mrs..........no matter how you slice it! I would just go with the bed broke, act of god and leave the dog with friends/relatives (Skips house might not be a bad idea ;)) while the adjuster is there. :thumbup:

Then, if you're gonna keep Cujo and a waterbed, I'd just stain the concrete slab (I've seen some really nice jobs of that done) or tile it and seal it well, :D

Ray
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 28, 2009, 12:51:10 am: Sorry to hear about the bite Skip. Its crazy how powerful a Boxer can be, people just dont think of them that way. There still one of my favorite dogs though. Hope there was no serious injuries (other then yours).

I got most of the house back to semi normal (still no carpet). I had the heaters and fans going all night and most of the day. Everything is dry and looks OK, cant notice any damage to the drywall. Looks like almost all the water was in the carpet pad. Think I'm going to paint while the carpets out (it needs it). And the carpet really needed to be changed anyway, never changed it when I bought the place (its really old and faded). Just wasnt planning on doing it now.

Good thing is, it isn't going to cost me much. My Mom and I have been talking for awhile about doing a house swap. So, this is the perfect excuse to do it. She is going to handle the carpet (what she wants), and I'll handle the paint for her.

Bad thing is, her place is going to cost me a small fortune. Its on 2 1/2 acres but it has a one car garage and a carport (that wont work for me). I'm going to need to enclose the carport, making it a 2 car garage. And put up some decent fencing for the dog. Then I'll have room to build a shop/storage area for the boat. So, it looks like its going to be a loooooong time before there's any time/money to build the boat.

Need to call the machine shop in the morning and put the motor on hold, no need to have it done and sitting around with no boat to put it in.

BTW, anyone that knows me wouldnt believe the fat chick excuse. Fat chicks might need love too, but not from me. :screwy:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: 69 Horizon on December 28, 2009, 09:53:38 am: the strange knobs on the transom are for a ski bar ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Luckie Stiff on December 28, 2009, 10:18:03 am: Jeff-

On the upside, you get to move where no one will f**k with you for having projects, and Leo will have room to roam. The bite is nothing too serious, about 1/2 dozen puncture wounds and one good rip, 3 freakin' staples in that one. To top it all off, it got one of my tattoos, that's ok, I'll just get more >:D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on December 28, 2009, 12:37:36 pm: :o Holy crap....this thread's a classic. Sorry to hear proppy, damn dogs.lol Fwiw over on pb Kjell just hit 98mph with 700 hp. He started the season with 55 mph, and if I read it right, the only internal motor change he made was a cam shaft. I'm impressed...
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Just Electric on December 28, 2009, 01:53:20 pm: to bad you didnt live closer propless i could have loaned you my 2 dehumidafiers
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on December 28, 2009, 08:32:47 pm: Quote from: SLCKREG on December 28, 2009, 12:37:36 pm
:o Holy crap....this thread's a classic. Sorry to hear proppy, damn dogs.lol Fwiw over on pb Kjell just hit 98mph with 700 hp. He started the season with 55 mph, and if I read it right, the only internal motor change he made was a cam shaft. I'm impressed...

I think there's a bit more to it then just a cam change. Its a motor from a different boat, a yellow boat that ran 104mph (see post #51), with a cam - intake- oil pan change. But your 100% right, those are some damn impressive numbers with only 700hp in a 21' boat. I bet he finds a couple more mph to get it over 100 without a bottle.

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on December 28, 2009, 10:18:03 am
Jeff-

On the upside, you get to move where no one will f**k with you for having projects, and Leo will have room to roam. The bite is nothing too serious, about 1/2 dozen puncture wounds and one good rip, 3 freakin' staples in that one. To top it all off, it got one of my tattoos, that's ok, I'll just get more >:D

Skip those staples look nasty !! I just cant stand the sight of staples. Not that my road rash in the other thread looked any better. ;)

Quote from: 69 Horizon on December 28, 2009, 09:53:38 am
the strange knobs on the transom are for a ski bar ;D
Thats a scary thought. They where just bolted through the glass (no wood support behind them). I actually thought they where there to hook the cover to, somehow.

The house seems to be OK tonight again, no signs or smells of moisture. I think I got lucky by getting it cleaned up and dried out that night.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: frankloc on January 05, 2010, 08:49:13 am: Hellyeah. outboard to JET awsome. I love when people FRANKENSTIEN stuff make stuff into something else. cant wait to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on January 06, 2010, 09:21:08 pm: Hey proppy...there is a pretty good discussion on 21's intake(suction) pres. #'s and set up over at that other place in the GS section.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on January 06, 2010, 10:31:11 pm: Quote from: SLCKREG on January 06, 2010, 09:21:08 pm
Hey proppy...there is a pretty good discussion on 21's intake(suction) pres. #'s and set up over at that other place in the GS section.

Yea, been watching that, would be nice if someone would answer your questions (in your thread) over there though. :screwy:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SLCKREG on January 07, 2010, 07:42:00 am: Seems like I'm getting dodged pretty good doesn't it.lol
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on October 07, 2011, 08:29:39 pm: Well you guys will probably see a new build thread for this thing soon. Its on its way to the North West Rainforest tonight, Jrork is its new owner. He picked it up tonight and is on his way home with his new toy, so if anyone between Fresno Ca and Washington sees him, moon him. >:D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: 76NORDIC on October 07, 2011, 08:36:25 pm: Well what about you Proppy, whatcha got going for yourself, inquiring minds want to know LOL
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on October 07, 2011, 09:07:12 pm: Quote from: 76NORDIC on October 07, 2011, 08:36:25 pm
Well what about you Proppy, whatcha got going for yourself, inquiring minds want to know LOL

I dont know, The stupid Brendella tunnel is still sitting in the garage on a cart and I dont want to work on it. There are a few different things that might show up around here though. :-X
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: IRRebel on October 07, 2011, 09:20:53 pm: Quote from: propless on October 07, 2011, 09:07:12 pm
I dont know, The stupid Brendella tunnel is still sitting in the garage on a cart and I dont want to work on it. There are a few different things that might show up around here though. :-X

The SST is NOT yours! Storage only if we get to that point! :sly:

Ray
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on October 07, 2011, 11:12:14 pm: Quote from: IRRebel on October 07, 2011, 09:20:53 pm
The SST is NOT yours! Storage only if we get to that point! :sly:

Ray

Hmmmmmm I forgot all about that thing, might have to go over there and "check it out". >:D

Better get on it Ray. ;D
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on October 21, 2011, 05:14:20 pm: Now that this beautiful boat is in the shop the more I fall in love with it. The colors are so cool. Currently swapping out the stringers and toe board bulkhead. Probably fab up some gunnel supports too while I'm at it. I dont want to mess up the light weight of it but I do want to make this the boat that Jan and I always dreamed about.

Thanks again Proppy!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: 76NORDIC on October 21, 2011, 06:40:19 pm: Good to hear ya made it home OK, now GET R DONE !!!!!!! Progress pics would be nice also :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on June 13, 2012, 08:15:13 pm: Figgr'd I would give an update. Ton of work left to go but Ian and I are slowly making progress

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: FORKEDUP on June 14, 2012, 07:35:53 am: looking good, keep up the great work and the update pics :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on February 18, 2013, 08:34:17 am: Thought I would post up some progress on Proppys old boat.

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After wasting a ton of time treating this boat like a car and preparing it that way, I learned that with Gelcoat, you dont do any of that. Soooo, all the time spent smoothing, sealing and priming the transom, I ground that all back off :banghead:

I then attempted to forget what little I ever knew about spraying and shot some Gel. Wow, I made my fair share of mistakes and was really unhappy with the appearance the next day but after blocking that down with some 400 grit, it looks fantastic. Gelcoat is very cool stuff....just WAY different that spraying base coat/clear coat.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on February 18, 2013, 08:40:28 am: Pedals in
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Got a sweet seat setup from a friend that has a 21 as he was going for light weight buckets.

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Next up was to set the motor one last time to make sure we have the motor at the right height before breaking it down for powder coating.

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And last night there was a break in the weather and we pushed it outside for a quick picture

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: uncleBOBBY on February 18, 2013, 08:40:38 am: Wow
The floor is looking great
Nice work
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on February 18, 2013, 08:49:02 am: Thanks very much. It's been a fun project and the first stringer replace job my son and I have ever attempted. Lots of fun while frustrating at time.

Here's one more shot we took last night. The lighting was awful but we wanted to see what the back was going to look like. This is pretty much what we had visioned but it's always nice to see it in real life

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on February 18, 2013, 09:23:07 am: Quote from: jrork on February 18, 2013, 08:40:28 am
Pedals in
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Got a sweet seat setup from a friend that has a 21 as he was going for light weight buckets.

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Next up was to set the motor one last time to make sure we have the motor at the right height before breaking it down for powder coating.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/528153_10200184966300156_1004531194_n.jpg)

And last night there was a break in the weather and we pushed it outside for a quick picture

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For guys looking at this thread...

First off John, very impressive, this thing is going to be off the hook.

Some safety criticism. Please don't take any offense, that is not the intent.

The throttle pedal should be mounted at a 75/25 ratio to the fulcrum point. If you have a throttle issue, cable stuck, broken return spring, bent linkage, whatever, you don't have a way to pull the throttle back, with a 75/25, with 25% of the throttle pedal being below the hinge point, you can "heel" the throttle back. In this case, i would recommend some sort of toe clip, this way you would be able to pull the pedal back with your toe...

Don't want to see any of you guys put in harms way because of a small oversight.

Cant wait to see this badboy on the water.

GT
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on February 18, 2013, 09:30:40 am: Quote from: GT Jets on February 18, 2013, 09:23:07 am

Some safety criticism. Please don't take any offense, that is not the intent.

The throttle pedal should be mounted at a 75/25 ratio to the fulcrum point. If you have a throttle issue, cable stuck, broken return spring, bent linkage, whatever, you don't have a way to pull the throttle back, with a 75/25, with 25% of the throttle pedal being below the hinge point, you can "heel" the throttle back. In this case, i would recommend some sort of toe clip, this way you would be able to pull the pedal back with your toe...

GT

Awesome tip Glenn. THANKS! I would be easy to rig up a toe clip setup. Thanks again and send some warmth up here would ya?
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: GT Jets on February 18, 2013, 09:37:11 am: Quote from: jrork on February 18, 2013, 09:30:40 am
Awesome tip Glenn. THANKS! I would be easy to rig up a toe clip setup. Thanks again and send some warmth up here would ya?

Would have had to of done it yesterday John, the weather sucks butt down here today. Supposed to get some snow in the Sierra mountains tomorrow. Old man winter has a few more tricks up his sleeves. We need a tad more water anyways.

Take care and keep up the good work. Oh, and punch that kid of yours in the arm for me.

GT
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on February 18, 2013, 09:39:45 am: Quote from: GT Jets on February 18, 2013, 09:37:11 am
Take care and keep up the good work. Oh, and punch that kid of yours in the arm for me.

GT

Consider it DONE!!! ;)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: FORKEDUP on February 18, 2013, 03:59:13 pm: ABSOULUTELY BITCHEN!!! Great work so far, cant wait to see it done :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on February 18, 2013, 07:17:32 pm: Quote from: FORKEDUP on February 18, 2013, 03:59:13 pm
ABSOULUTELY BITCHEN!!! Great work so far, cant wait to see it done :thumbup:

Thanks very much. Definately a work in progress but we're getting there
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on July 29, 2013, 05:18:02 am: After setting our sights on being at the big hotboat show in Bremerton on Saturday, we thrashed non stop from Wednesday night and finished it Saturday morning at 9 am. We were in the water by 10 am and other than a leaking rubrail (that in the thrash we forgot to seal as we were installing it) it performed flawlessly.

Sure is nice to be coming to an end on this project.................... till the next change

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: SoCalPSD on July 29, 2013, 08:38:46 am: That thing is beautiful, good job guys.
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: 82daytona on July 29, 2013, 08:54:23 am: Nice!
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: propless on July 30, 2013, 01:25:15 am: Quote from: jrork on July 29, 2013, 05:18:02 am
After setting our sights on being at the big hotboat show in Bremerton on Saturday, we thrashed non stop from Wednesday night and finished it Saturday morning at 9 am. We were in the water by 10 am and other than a leaking rubrail (that in the thrash we forgot to seal as we were installing it) it performed flawlessly.

Sure is nice to be coming to an end on this project.................... till the next change

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I'm so glad it went to a good home. Looks great old man. ;D
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on August 13, 2013, 10:00:03 pm: Quote from: propless on July 30, 2013, 01:25:15 am
I'm so glad it went to a good home. Looks great old man. ;D
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Thanks so very much Jeff'r. I really appreciate you trusting us with this boat. I couldnt be happier with how it turned out and most importantly how Ian took the lead on so much of it Made this old man proud
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on June 22, 2014, 07:20:19 pm: The old girl still impresses me on how well it runs and rides. Fun little run for the first time this year and the start of summer in the NW.

http://youtu.be/zZ-6lTx0QT4 (http://youtu.be/zZ-6lTx0QT4)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Double A on June 22, 2014, 10:21:11 pm: Ride and Scenery, both beautiful :thumbup: :thumbup: Now I want to skip work ^-^
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on June 23, 2014, 05:24:20 pm: Thanks Aaron. It was a fantastic time on the water with very few other boats. Good times
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on November 07, 2014, 04:50:36 pm: Well, we played with it a bit this last year and had some great times till I kicked a headgasket. My bad. Got a little greedy with boost and timing. Soooo, it's tore down and is going to be a bit different this next year. 8)

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http://youtu.be/XLHD8aNS3hQ (http://youtu.be/XLHD8aNS3hQ)

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Just Electric on November 07, 2014, 08:37:48 pm: Must be getting a psi blower eh 😜

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on November 08, 2014, 06:39:52 pm: ::)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Just Electric on November 08, 2014, 06:56:31 pm: Quote from: jrork on November 08, 2014, 06:39:52 pm
::)
your a cool dad want to adopt me as your red headed step child lol

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: jrork on November 09, 2014, 06:13:45 am: Quote from: Just Electric on November 08, 2014, 06:56:31 pm
your a cool dad want to adopt me as your red headed step child lol

Hah! I've got you fooled! Sure, I'll adopt you. With Ian away, I need somebody so I can get back to sitting around and drinking beer while somebody else works...... ;)
Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: Elainewesisa on December 14, 2014, 03:42:20 am: Who needs a project boat? 19 foot 1978 Eliminator Daytona.

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: mobboss on December 14, 2014, 08:09:49 am: I do!!

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Title: Re: Eliminator/Daytona project
Post by: cjlabato on December 15, 2014, 08:08:51 am: How much!

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