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bkplesh

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #150 on: August 26, 2007, 12:07:46 pm »
sun's up, get going Rod. ;D
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Marcsrollin

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #151 on: August 26, 2007, 12:59:54 pm »
Plesh stop being a bitch and ask your wife if you can come to the lake with us.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

bkplesh

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2007, 05:33:19 pm »
kids b-day today ;D
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Warlock

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #153 on: August 26, 2007, 06:47:51 pm »
kids b-day today ;D
Which kid? Rod or Marc??  ;D
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hotrod56cars

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #154 on: August 26, 2007, 06:50:37 pm »
Severely disapointing.
W.O.T. 3900 RPM
48.7 mph
rides like sh!t.
runs like sh!t.
bilgde pump problem, took on a lot of water, not a good combination.
burnt my forehead on super flockin hot headers.
severely disapointed
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

                                                          1978  19' Mach 1 Tunnel jet

FORKEDUP

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2007, 06:53:26 pm »
sorry to hear that rod.....  now go back to the garage and fix it :)
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BEAUTY IS ONLY A LIGHT SWITCH AWAY
26' kachina force 496bbc
19' eliminator daytona 496bbc (still in my heart)
21 Commander, blown 454, berk pump.

Warlock

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2007, 06:54:00 pm »
Severely disapointing.
W.O.T. 3900 RPM
48.7 mph
rides like sh!t.
runs like sh!t.
bilgde pump problem, took on a lot of water, not a good combination.
burnt my forehead on super flockin hot headers.
severely disapointed

I think that Boat wants a $8-10k motor since it seems to be a racing badass? Sorry ta hear about the disappointment..That really sucks....
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Warlock

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #157 on: August 26, 2007, 06:54:58 pm »
Look at the bright side Rod...I haven't seen that many threads go 7 pages long!!! ;D
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The Chaz

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #158 on: August 26, 2007, 07:30:45 pm »
Well it "looked" good out there ;)
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Ralph Brunt

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2007, 07:32:49 pm »
Severely disapointing.
W.O.T. 3900 RPM
48.7 mph
rides like sh!t.
runs like sh!t.
bilgde pump problem, took on a lot of water, not a good combination.
burnt my forehead on super flockin hot headers.
severely disapointed

i gotta hondo with a jacuzzi hehehe :-\
no but really Rod, it aint so bad. At least now you have a base line to go off of, get off your ass and start modifying shit. that's what hot boating is all about, get your motor running right, maybe change impeller's or camshafts to get the rpms up. well you get the idea. hell i towed that hondo all the way to the river and 5 min on the water and it was broke and back on the trailer for the weekend.

sorry you had a bad trip
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Glasscutter, Skip, OC2  Nordie and many more nail me good every time, relentlessly, I love those guys!

hotrod56cars

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2007, 07:37:56 pm »
It ain't over till  ???

Just wanted to let you all know WTF happened.  ;)

I'll get back on it a different day.  ;D
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

                                                          1978  19' Mach 1 Tunnel jet

Blue

Re: Mach 1
« Reply #161 on: August 26, 2007, 08:04:57 pm »
Well i have a great idea..... Since the boat is obvoiusly a piece of shit and motor is even worse I am gonna drive down there and take if off your hands for umm......2K?? I know I will be helping you out a great deal but thats just the kind of guy I am.. I know I know ur welcome
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beerjet

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2007, 08:11:42 pm »
Well i have a great idea..... Since the boat is obvoiusly a piece of shit and motor is even worse I am gonna drive down there and take if off your hands for umm......2K?? I know I will be helping you out a great deal but thats just the kind of guy I am.. I know I know ur welcome
Which lake are you gonna launch it at and pull the plug on your way home . ;D

-beerjet-
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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

jet boat performance

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2007, 08:54:47 pm »
Rod I know it can be dissapointing be we can fix it Give me a call were a team now !! Tom
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bkplesh

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #164 on: August 26, 2007, 09:14:58 pm »
You need to run a NEW WIRE HARNESS. And just rewire the whole boat. But on the bright ride, the boat run around and you didn't get towed in. ;D   You get alot of friends that will come and help with that boat.  So  ;D
« Last Edit: August 26, 2007, 09:21:20 pm by bkplesh »
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #165 on: August 26, 2007, 09:17:03 pm »
You need to run NEW WIRE HARNESS. And just rewire the whole boat. But on the bright ride, the boat run around and you didn't get towed in. ;D   You get alot of friend that will come and help it that boat.  So  ;D

wow.
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Marcsrollin

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #166 on: August 27, 2007, 12:05:01 am »
It ain't over till  ???

Just wanted to let you all know WTF happened.  ;)

I'll get back on it a different day.  ;D

Just be glad it wasent your boat that caught on fire this time!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #167 on: August 27, 2007, 12:32:23 am »
Just be glad it wasent your boat that caught on fire this time!

soooooo.......whos did then?
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Marcsrollin

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #168 on: August 27, 2007, 01:17:44 am »
Another friend of ours.
WOW who would have thought a fire extinguisher would have made such a mess in a boat.  ( back to the mach 1 before I get called a thread jacker )
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

hotrod56cars

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #169 on: August 27, 2007, 08:14:34 am »
A fresh 427 BBC Chevrolet with 11:1 compression showing less than 200 HP on the impellor RPM chart   ???  , nah, there's something wrong there for sure.  ;)  I figure I should search from the inside out, do a compression check to make sure nothing's wrong on the inside, check the rocker arms to make sure they're all still adjusted properly/cam's not going flat, go to the carb, make sure a fuel line isn't falling apart on the inside filling the carb with crap (again), go to the distributer and check it for wear on the cap and rotor, check the wires and plugs, etc. etc. etc.

Marc! I know you (and others) wanted a ride yesterday to see how a tunnel jet acts on the water, trust me brother yesterday was not the day for that, with the self-moving Place Diverter, and all of the other problems! I could have drug you around on a sheet of plywood with my family's 75 HP outboard powered boat and you would have had a better ride.  :P

Another friend of ours.
WOW who would have thought a fire extinguisher would have made such a mess in a boat.  ( back to the mach 1 before I get called a thread jacker )

Too late! THREAD JACKER   >:D  No one can take away my fond memories of my family boat catching on fire immediately next to all the 1/4 million dollar +++ yaht's in the bay...  ;D
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

                                                          1978  19' Mach 1 Tunnel jet

Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #170 on: August 27, 2007, 08:22:17 am »
just some thoughts....

have you looked inside that pump? whats the impeller look like? what size is it?

without going back and reading a ton, i vaguely remember there being a bigger motor in it before....maybe the pump was set up for more horsepower and your motor isnt able to turn the water as well.  ???

also, you said it rode like shit? put a straight edge on the bottom....does it got hook? how about the ride plate...where is it set at?

just some suggestions of things to look at.

-Brad
  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
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hotrod56cars

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #171 on: August 27, 2007, 09:10:02 am »
I briefly looked inside the pump just long enough to figure out it's got an aluminum impellor, the egde of the impellor isn't chewed up, it's not filled with rope, and that's about it. I just looked again, and it looks good enough to do 60 at least  :D  , it's got a loader grate (not hanging super low or high), lots of bumps, holes, and dips in the intake area (poor fitting loader, screw heads with no filler, etc...).

It had a 454 with about 9:1 compression, same exact intake, same exact valve sizes, 30 more cfm on the carb, same exact distributer, it now has a 427 with 11:1 compression, etc... the current engine should be about 40 more HP, at least. The previous owner claimed a mph of 72 with his engine and I believe him to be an honest person.

I'm reasonably sure it was riding like crap due to the self-adjusting  ???  hydraulic Place Diverter, but yea, I should check it for a hook as well. OK, I just looked the bottom, I'm guessing it's supposed to be flat for the last ? 10 or so feet, there is a hook in there and I'd say it's less than 1/4" (without breaking out the tools). The ride plate does have an angle to it, very little, again without breaking out the tools... I'm guessing it's about 3 or 4 degree's from the bottom of the hull.  ???

I'm sticking with engine problems/tuning until I can't research the engine anymore... then I'll move on to the boat part of it.
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

                                                          1978  19' Mach 1 Tunnel jet

hotrod56cars

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #172 on: August 27, 2007, 09:33:25 am »
I have no idea what I'm talking about.  ;)

If the boat had a severe hook in it, my mph would be low, but my RPM's would be higher than 3900 I think.

If the impellor was all chewed up, wouldn't that also make my mph low and my RPM's higher than what they are?



I'm quitting on the Mach 1 for a few days, I'm at least a week behind on my finances and I really need to get on the finances before they become a real big problem ...
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

                                                          1978  19' Mach 1 Tunnel jet

Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #173 on: August 27, 2007, 09:53:10 am »
I have no idea what I'm talking about.  ;)
note taken.  ;)

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If the boat had a severe hook in it, my mph would be low, but my RPM's would be higher than 3900 I think.

The question about hook really had nothing to do with engine performance....it was reguarding your comment about how crappy it rode....but i guess you can figure it was maybe the self adjusting place diverter.....please go into more detail about what happened with this......was it slippping like the hydrolics werent holding pressure? or it had a mind of its own like there was an electrical problem.

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If the impellor was all chewed up, wouldn't that also make my mph low and my RPM's higher than what they are?


i am no pump expert, but I assume a chewed up impeller would make the engine work harder...less RPMs....but from what you have said, it looks not that bad, so you can dismiss that question.
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hotrod56cars

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Re: Mach 1
« Reply #174 on: August 27, 2007, 02:21:46 pm »
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The question about hook really had nothing to do with engine performance....it was reguarding your comment about how crappy it rode....but i guess you can figure it was maybe the self adjusting place diverter.....please go into more detail about what happened with this......was it slippping like the hydrolics werent holding pressure? or it had a mind of its own like there was an electrical problem.
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Never thought of that, a hook creating a sh!tty ride, seems pretty possible. But like I said the hook is extremely small, especially considering the distance that the bottom of the hull is flat.

It's kind of hard to say at this point, but I could "feel" the bow lifting as I drove it, I could see the bow lifting as I drove it at the same speed, and I never touched the switch. I think the hydraulic ram is opening as it's being driven, not sure if that would be a worn ram, a worn pump, or both. When the ram opens: the diverter, the bow, and the rooster all go up which is what I don't want when I hit a wake from another boat. My passenger and I are pretty certain that I launched the boat yesterday over a pretty big wake, the first thing out of his 16 year old mouth was  ;D   ;D   ;D  followed by "I think we just caught air" followed by  ;D   ;D   ;D.
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

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