I think I may have found the ONE!

« **on:** June 23, 2009, 08:46:06 PM »

This is gonna need a lot of work! BUT, since so many of my friends and brother, owe me some time on it, might not be a bad project! Gonna go look at it tomorrow after work !

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/boa/1211130381.html

Ray

« **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2009, 08:51:33 PM »

Quote from: IRRebel on June 23, 2009, 08:46:06 PM

This is gonna need a lot of work! BUT, since so many of my friends and brother, owe me some time on it, might not be a bad project! Gonna go look at it tomorrow after work !

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/boa/1211130381.html

Ray

Could be an easy fix depending on where it's cracked...The guy is going to crap his pants when you show up with the correct trailer. LOL

Good luck Ray, remember "NO B.S."

GT

« **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2009, 08:59:15 PM »

Yeah yeah yeah, lol. Actually I think the No BS was aimed at the engine. But, to my thinking, how could I POSSIBLY lose TWO Biesemeyers??? Odds are in my favour on this, lol.

I asked for pics of the damage, will forward them to you since you and Tom are the only ones I know of that can tell me if it's worth doing it or not!

Ray

I need a Craig's list blocker or sumpin'. Wouldn't it be fukin' sweet if my buds are able to recover what's left of the old one?

« **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:20:25 PM »

Ray Beisemeyers are great "High Line" boats , hand made and typically unique, I've replaced fuel tanks (not to long back in a similar hull for a Nor cal customer. Fiberglass is very "forgiving stuff " easy to repair and strong as steel . I swear it has a half life of Nuclear waste, likes see the pics

« **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2009, 09:30:03 PM »

And you will Tom! Might even see the boat for said repairs! and.....given the LAST Beisemeyer incident, prolly gonna just replace the damn tanks right off the get go if I score this thing. (I even have a title for the old one, soooooo....

Thanks guys!

Ray

Just what I need, ANOTHER project, lol. BUT, that'll fill the empty trailer in the front yard!

« **Reply #5 on:** June 24, 2009, 05:43:15 PM »

Guy called me back again today and was tied up 'til later so I didn't get to go see it. But gonna run a couple Ideas past you'uns to see what you think. I guess the crack, and he's gonna send pics tonite, runs along the bottom of the V in the middle about 3 feet long.

Also offered it to me for free if I let him take whatever parts off it he wants (JB drive, steering, etc). Not sure I like that idea, but whatever. We discussed me bringing my trailer and just swapping trailers instead of the labour involved in doing the latter and swapping the boat from trailer to trailer.

Interior I guess needs completely redone ( not a real biggie with what talent is available on here, but the seat frames are shot I guess), comes with the top (new), Dunno. Can I get this thing done in time for Blythe? I know I've done it before, but MAN! A lotta work, lol. The 'glass repair has me scared. never done any structural work like that.

Oh The boats a 1972, I guess the first year of the Beisemeyer or the 21 footer (Forgat what he said), and is, yes a 21 footer like the old one. Had a BBC in it, will probably remain that way if I do this, and I know 2Sav or Tom can help me out on that.

Couple this with what Terry's cooking up for me and, Yeah........I've lost my fukin mind!!!!!!

Ray

« **Reply #6 on:** June 24, 2009, 05:55:20 PM »

I'm the pot calling the kettle black on this one, but.

Do I remember correctly how the blue boat came into your harem? Didn't you stumble across it and one of the appealing things was it was mostly turnkey?

Are you SURE you wouldn't rather have the family boat be the relatively EZ boat to keep running and the Moo or another hot sled be your outlet for DIY stuff?

(Of course back then your were still up to your elbows in the moo work and now that seems to be pretty much finished - at least as much as boats ever get finished. )

« **Reply #7 on:** June 24, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »

Yeah, I know Steve. And good point. Terry and I (well More Terry, he's the pro at those things) are werkin on another dealio to try and get RJ to convert to the "Dark" (Hot rod) side, but he LOVED driving that old boat. If I put all my efforts into it, I know I can make it fly (and do it right this time, NEW TANKS), by the time he gets back here. Just don't know if I really want to do that. I wanted the Saguaro to be on the water by September (Even STILL possible even with this), I'm just scared to fukin death of "turnkey" boats!! Go Figure?

As Tom mentioned, Beisemeyers are kinda speshul and unique anyway, I have the money right now that in other economic times would not even make any of this craziness possible! (And I'm not gonna lose money on anything I've done thus far).

Lets see the damage and go from there. If I get it and gotta send the boat to Glenn or Tom to have the hull fixed, so be it. The interior, not a biggie deal to me. I'd rather do it my way anyhow (I also have a set of seats at Skips, but those are really for the Saguaro). The engine, well, I have 3 460's sitting here in various stages of build, though this is set up for Chebbie and prolly will remain a Chebbie.

The shame on my part is not getting to the Hallet Brad gave me if I do this all this year. It'll get done, just haven't even really decided where I want to go with it. It's going to a friends to start the grinding and recapping it ,correctly this time, next week.

I dunno, but being around Brad's boat, and riding in Omar's boat this last weekend, made me really miss my cruiser. I prolly logged more time in that boat the short time I owned it than the Moo. The Moo is specific, quick, fast, and picky, (And a handful to drive, albeit fun for ME) the cruiser was NOT.

I guess what I'm saying is, Glenn found me a Sleek the guy wants 6k for. Probably a good boat, but I would never trust it, given history. Here we're talking about the SAME boat I lost, that yeah, gonna need to rebuild (Which I would prolly do anyhow) for next to NOTHING!

Sorry for the long rant on my justification on this, but I've been processing this for 2 days now. Not looking forward to the work, but I had to ask myself, would I EVER let my 14 year old son drive a boat that he and I (Or someone I trusted completely) did not build again? My son coulda easily been killed in that fire, as he drove it more than I ever did.

Ray

« **Reply #8 on:** June 24, 2009, 07:09:29 PM »

Quote from: IRRebel on June 24, 2009, 06:30:57 PM

Yeah, I know Steve. And good point. Terry and I (well More Terry, he's the pro at those things) are werkin on another dealio to try and get RJ to convert to the "Dark" (Hot rod) side, but he LOVED driving that old boat. If I put all my efforts into it, I know I can make it fly (and do it right this time, NEW TANKS), by the time he gets back here. Just don't know if I really want to do that. I wanted the Saguaro to be on the water by September (Even STILL possible even with this), I'm just scared to fukin death of "turnkey" boats!! Go Figure?

As Tom mentioned, Beisemeyers are kinda speshul and unique anyway, I have the money right now that in other economic times would not even make any of this craziness possible! (And I'm not gonna lose money on anything I've done thus far).

Lets see the damage and go from there. If I get it and gotta send the boat to Glenn or Tom to have the hull fixed, so be it. The interior, not a biggie deal to me. I'd rather do it my way anyhow (I also have a set of seats at Skips, but those are really for the Saguaro). The engine, well, I have 3 460's sitting here in various stages of build, though this is set up for Chebbie and prolly will remain a Chebbie.

The shame on my part is not getting to the Hallet Brad gave me if I do this all this year. It'll get done, just haven't even really decided where I want to go with it. It's going to a friends to start the grinding and recapping it ,correctly this time, next week.

I dunno, but being around Brad's boat, and riding in Omar's boat this last weekend, made me really miss my cruiser. I prolly logged more time in that boat the short time I owned it than the Moo. The Moo is specific, quick, fast, and picky, (And a handful to drive, albeit fun for ME) the cruiser was NOT.

I guess what I'm saying is, Glenn found me a Sleek the guy wants 6k for. Probably a good boat, but I would never trust it, given history. Here we're talking about the SAME boat I lost, that yeah, gonna need to rebuild (Which I would prolly do anyhow) for next to NOTHING!

Sorry for the long rant on my justification on this, but I've been processing this for 2 days now. Not looking forward to the work, but I had to ask myself, would I EVER let my 14 year old son drive a boat that he and I (Or someone I trusted completely) did not build again? My son coulda easily been killed in that fire, as he drove it more than I ever did.

Ray

Ray,

My brother,

You got it baaaaad

You just said some of the same stuff I have been saying for 20+years (I have yet to buy a boat I could test drive in my life

Keep it up, there is nothing wrong with us, there is nothing wrong with us, there is nothing wrong with us, there is nothing wrong with us... $:-\$

Did I just repeat myself

GT

« **Reply #9 on:** June 24, 2009, 08:25:59 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 24, 2009, 07:09:29 PM

Ray,

My brother,

You got it baaaaad You just said some of the same stuff I have been saying for 20+years (I have yet to buy a boat I could test drive in my life

Keep it up, there is nothing wrong with us, there is nothing wrong with us, there is nothing wrong with us, there is nothing wrong with us... $:-\$

Did I just repeat myself

GT

So true! SO true!

We are all drinking the same batch of koolaid and therefore it always tastes great to us, huh?!!

Fuggin GO FOR IT RAY!!!! GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!

« **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:03:26 PM »

Heres the pics of this "Crack" Christ, a half day with a grinder and maybe a day or so glassing this is a DONE DEAL!

This is a cake walk on that part! Now waiting on other pics!!!

it's in the middle bottom of the hull halfway from the bow to stern.

I'm getting excited!!

Ray

« **Reply #11 on:** June 24, 2009, 10:48:39 PM »

OK, OK, OK, Omar, I need you here sweety! The guys (Mike and Ryan, I chit you not), hafta be gay, lol.

Nothing wrong with that, but I may need backup going to get it!

Told the guy I'd be down Friday afternoon or Sat morning if that was ok and this is a quote:

"We'll be at the lake sweetums"

Think I have a theory about that crack now............. So Monday afternoon it is.

Ray

Guess I shoulda taken note when the guys email address shows "Ryan Rammer" on Outlook............................ This is gonna be fuuuuuuunnnnnnnyyyyyyyy! Either that or I'm about to be "violated".

I guess this one's gonna be named "Rainbow Brite".........................

« **Reply #12 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:12:50 PM »

now im confused what this thread is about...

its titled "I think I may have found the ONE!" .....what is "the ONE!" you are speaking of? soul mate?

« **Reply #13 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:17:04 PM »

I Think I've done confused myself about that too Brad, lmao

Started out about a boat, then the man in the boat, and .......well........you know, ended up just the man methinks!

Ray

« **Reply #14 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:26:57 PM »

I think you should just name it "the Rammer"

or

"Flamer" (In honer of the Meanie, nothing to do with the previous owner)

« **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2009, 11:33:50 PM »

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"Flamer" (In honer of the Meanie, nothing to do with the previous owner)

Now THAT'S Funny!!! (And Plausible!!!!)

Ray

« **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2009, 12:45:03 AM »

Kind of hard to get oriented with your pictures, but it looks very similar to the crack/repair we did on my son's Sanger cruiser. Note in the first picture, someone previously tried to "bondo" the crack (gray stuff)--needless to say, it still leaked.

Ground out the bad glass--had to get rid of most of the strake before rebuilding it with new glass

Sanding/smoothing fiberglass work

Brushed on white gel coat

Finish sanding the gel.

After finishing the bottom, we turned it back over, cut out the poorly repaired floor, removed soggy foam, laid several layers of glass/mat to back up the bottom repair, and glassed in a center stringer and 2 additional supports for the new floor. Seems to me that it took a couple of weekends to complete the job. Have 2 seasons on the boat and haven't had any more problems.

« **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2009, 01:04:07 AM »

Thanks for that Pete! Kinda what I was thinking to do but didn't know quite how. That helps a lot G!

Prolly just gonna do it on my back (No comments here, so shuddup!

) under the thing, but really gotta wait til I see it and drag the byatch home. (My neighbors are gonna call the white wagon on my ass I just KNOW it). Biggest thing to me is getting the pump out and to Tom to go through. (He's getting 2 of them, the one from the Yellow Sub as well)

I guess the JB pumps aren't too bad. (What am I saying, you all say the JE sux, yet the Moo can hold her own with it). At least it's a split bowl, so maybe I can hit bridges too, lol.

Kinda lit a fire tonite under my buds about recovering the remains of the Blue Meaney on this. Might be nice and fun to toss Ford power into this thing. Then again, Chebbie set up, gonna call Uncle Ronnie! He'll have 500 HP in the thing in a heartbeat!

Ray

What are the odds my boat would go down in flames and now I'm getting the same boat from flamers? Is that Karma or what?!?!?

« **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2009, 06:27:49 AM »

I think Flamer has to be the name of this boat right? That is damn funny given ALL of the history and the current owners. Funny post Ray

« **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2009, 09:31:49 AM »

Think of the stories you will have when people ask you why your boats named "Flamer"

« **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2009, 06:45:19 PM »

Too bad it didn't have a stabbin cabin, lol. Noone would ride with me!

Ray

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