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Title: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on February 15, 2009, 08:30:45 PM
I figured it would be better to start up a thread to show my progress in more of an organized way. This weekend we re-wired the whole boat and put in new gauges and got rid of the ugly circuit breaker on the back of the bell-housing and did a much lower profile set up mounted on transom.

Here are a couple pics, this is the motor all re-plumbed with new headers on (last weekend's project) and one showing the new gauges I put in.

I am taking a couple weeks off but will be getting it wet for the first time in two weeks.

I'll keep the pics coming as I keep doing new things....

Nick
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: BOOST on February 15, 2009, 08:40:28 PM
Very nice Nick, you might have to change the Alternator to a one wire setup because your using a volt gauge know.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: GT Jets on February 15, 2009, 08:57:48 PM
Very nice Nick, you might have to change the Alternator to a one wire setup because your using a volt gauge know.

Huh?   ???

GT
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: BOOST on February 15, 2009, 09:08:31 PM
 Gt maybe I'm wrong the little box be hide the Alternator has a wire going to the Amp gauge now he's running volts no need for the wire, run the Alternator wire to the battery.Huh ??? ?
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: GT Jets on February 15, 2009, 09:19:44 PM
Gt maybe I'm wrong the little box be hide the Alternator has a wire going to the Amp gauge now he's running volts no need for the wire, run the Alternator wire to the battery.

Most of the time the amp guage just has the charge wire going "through it", there is a shunt on the gauge back that actually has all of the charging current going thru it and to eliminate an ammeter, technically you would hook the two wires (supposed to be orange and red) together. good to go...The ignition wire then goes to (+) on the new voltmeter, I dont think anything needs to change at the alternator level.

A single wire hookup alternator is fine, but normally not the best way to go IMHO, the best thing about them is the simplicity, the negative is the fact that it charges to "battery voltage and not systen voltage, bnot a big deal, but if you get into stereo's and high draw ignitions and in our case a lot of bilge pump draw, you could undercharge the battery and run more amps than neccissary (as the volts drop the amps go up)

Just a matter of opinion, I have a single wire on my jet, but a three wire on the motorhome and the I/O...

GT
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: 76 Bonneville on February 15, 2009, 09:38:04 PM
Looks good Nick. Are going out local for a test run, if so post it, i'm sure a few of us will show up.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Oldsquirt on February 15, 2009, 10:27:17 PM
ooops.....nevermind....:)
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: flytime on February 16, 2009, 01:49:59 PM
Looks good Nick. Are going out local for a test run, if so post it, i'm sure a few of us will show up.

Keep us posted. I'm down for another run. I could always use someone to tow me in again ::) ::)
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: repoman on February 16, 2009, 03:30:38 PM
yes indeed!!! more pix..looks nice.  we should get all of the hallett owners to meet somewhere.  that would be cool.  nice progress
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: beerjet on February 16, 2009, 06:15:40 PM
we should get all of the hallett owners to meet somewhere.  that would be cool.

Park Moabi in needles!

It'll be a long hual for you though Repo .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 16, 2009, 06:30:34 PM
Park Moabi in needles!

It'll be a long hual for you though Repo .

-beerjet-


F That, let's do a Hallett day on the Delta!
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: beerjet on February 16, 2009, 06:35:25 PM

F That, let's do a Hallett day on the Delta!
I'll tow yours if you tow mine  ;D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 16, 2009, 06:38:42 PM
I'll tow yours if you tow mine  ;D

-beerjet-

You get that sumbitch up here and I'll take it from here to there.  ;D
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: beerjet on February 16, 2009, 06:39:50 PM
You get that sumbitch up here and I'll take it from here to there.  ;D
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats half the fuel !  :banghead:

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: repoman on February 16, 2009, 07:51:09 PM
im down...lol....i broke down in my power-joke right outside of needles...it was at the ford store for 2 months to do a motor! you would think they could work fast in a small town!!
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on February 16, 2009, 09:00:19 PM
(this is my first attempt at multi-quote, I hope it comes out ok)


Very nice Nick, you might have to change the Alternator to a one wire setup because your using a volt gauge know.

A good friend of mine came over this weekend and helped me do the wiring. We did not eliminate the little box on the back of the alternator and we used the wire that was there. He is far more knowledgable when it comes to wiring, I was trying to learn as much as I could while helping him and working on other things. I wasnt watching him when we did the alternator wiring. But when we started it for a minute on the hose the volt gauge was working, thats all I know.


Looks good Nick. Are going out local for a test run, if so post it, i'm sure a few of us will show up.

I will keep you guys posted, thanks for the support. It would be nice to have some support out there. It will either be the last weekend in Feb or first weekend in March. I will probably end up going out to Smellsomemore. Also on the first test day I will be putting new bunks on the trailer while it's in the water. Assuming there are no water leaks...


F That, let's do a Hallett day on the Delta!

How far is that from OC? Is that your local spot, or do you live down here? If you are down here by me, I'd much rather do an SCJB/Hallett Drinkalotta (our version of a regatta?) at the river, whata ya say?
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 16, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
I say the river is for queers.
 

















;D KIDDING! The delta is about 7 hours North of OC, I'm in Bakersfield so the river, the delta, Lake San Antonio or Nacimiento, hell they're all good by me

































Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on February 16, 2009, 09:15:50 PM
I say the river is for queers.
 

















;D KIDDING! The delta is about 7 hours North of OC, I'm in Bakersfield so the river, the delta, Lake San Antonio or Nacimiento, hell they're all good by me



































if the river is for queers then i am a flamer. My family has had a place out there for 16 years and before that we used to go with friends. As soon as my boat is all finished up that is where it will stay, so i guess I am bias (sp?) as i will always be trying to talk people in to going out there.

Tell me more about your boat skip, is there a thread on it anywhere, it's basically the same as mine isn't it?
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 16, 2009, 09:20:04 PM
I was totally kidding about the river, I remember Parker  when Sundance was open, naked waterskiing, titties everywhere, a big boat was a 21' day cruiser.  my boat? not much to tell, 78 Hallett, 468 BBC, 70 MPH lake boat.

Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on February 16, 2009, 09:45:37 PM
I was totally kidding about the river, I remember Parker  when Sundance was open, naked waterskiing, titties everywhere, a big boat was a 21' day cruiser.  my boat? not much to tell, 78 Hallett, 468 BBC, 70 MPH lake boat.



ok so the river it is then. I am thinking about joining in on the Father's day weekend deal that is coming up. I havn't heard it talked about any time soon but I do plan on going.

As for the river jokes, I knew you were kidding, I just wanted to keep it going. You remember when Sundance was open? I have never seen it open, we ususally go to RoadRunner...a buddy of mine has a place accross the river from the sherriff's station at the Rio.

Anyways, do you plan on heading that way any time soon? I really think my boat is going to be ready soon.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 17, 2009, 05:52:45 AM
At this point I have no plans to hit the river yet this year, you should do the Lake Mead trip with us next month. It'd be sweet to have another Hallett there.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Baja and Bust on February 17, 2009, 10:03:07 AM
Nick,

Nice work on the Hallett, man.  It's cool to see a newbie kickin some veteran a$$ when it comes to getting their boat together.  Good luck on the test run at smellsommore.  Noticed you talking about a family place on the river and a buddy's accross from the Sherriff's station.  Any chance you know John or Todd Trobridge?  They live in Fountain Valley and have had a place in Parker for years and years...  Just curious.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on February 17, 2009, 11:04:06 AM
Nick,

Nice work on the Hallett, man.  It's cool to see a newbie kickin some veteran a$$ when it comes to getting their boat together.  Good luck on the test run at smellsommore.  Noticed you talking about a family place on the river and a buddy's accross from the Sherriff's station.  Any chance you know John or Todd Trobridge?  They live in Fountain Valley and have had a place in Parker for years and years...  Just curious.


Thanks for the kind words, I have been a weekend warrior lately just doing as much as I can in little 48 hour spirts. I have to take a break on it for a couple weeks tho due to other plans but I will for sure come back with a report as soon as I do the test run.

Yeah, my family has a place at Water Wheel Resort (in the center of the strip below the parker strip). And a buddy of mine has a place at the Rio up in Parker, but sorry, I don't think I've ever met your friends. Is their place at the Rio Amarillo?
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on February 27, 2009, 02:33:38 PM
Alright guys, if I can get my timing down and a couple final touches finished tomorrow, I will be heading out to do some testing on Sunday at a local lake called Puddingstone in San Dimas.

If any of you would like to join, you are more than welcome to do so, a 2nd boat out might be helpful...(I hope I dont need it tho)

I will get some good new pics of her in the water.

Wish me luck......
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on March 01, 2009, 08:25:39 PM
We took her out for the first time today....No water leaks and everything worked pretty well. I just need to get timing set and finish up a couple more final touches.


Here are a couple pics for you guys.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: BOOST on March 01, 2009, 08:33:01 PM
Great job Nick did you open it up a little how did it plan out what kind of RPMs,did you get the pluming down right?
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on March 01, 2009, 08:39:21 PM
Great job Nick did you open it up a little how did it plan out what kind of RPMs,did you get the pluming down right?


I couldnt really get her opened up, the timing was a bit off and I didnt bring my gun. And I think I had something clogging the fuel filter...so I could not get any good readings.

As for the plumbing it was perfect. I just need to get the adjustments down with the two valves...I couldnt get her to hold a temp over 150...We were only on the water for about 30 mins, we spent most of our time in the parking lot replacing the bunks on the trailer.

I'll hit you up next time I go out so you can meet up with us.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2009, 10:02:13 PM
This weekend I got a couple things done on the trailer. A went to a buddies shop an to have some fab work done. I wanted to re-work my fenders b/c they were really sloppy and not very well mounted. So I decided I wanted to re-inforce how they were mounted, and I figured while we were diong that, we could suck them down towards the tire an inch or two to create a lowered look for my trailer. It came out just like I wanted, plus now the fenders are way more solid and we re-inforced what I call the step plates (the platforms on either side of the fender on a trailer).

I also wanted to add a rubber wheel on the front of my trailer to ensure that the boat could never hit the trailer. I recently noticed a small scratch on the boat right were there was a cross member on the trailer so I knew the could make contact but I could not get it to do it. But I figured that if I put a rubber wheel there it could never happen again.

And while we put on the rubber wheel we re-worked how the floater bar set up works. I also re-wired the trailer this weekend, so now all that is left for the trailer is to get it painted but I dont plan on doing that anytime real soon, at least for now it is fully functional and much stronger.

Here are a couple pics for you guys.

They are in this order;
Fenders Before
Fenders After
Two pics of floater bar after (sorry no before pics)
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: repoman on March 09, 2009, 03:01:31 AM
nice work nick!!  the only concern i have is the boat not being able to "flex" the way it wants too...the whole reason the float bar is there is so the boat can "float" on the trailer in the front...this of coarse relieving strain on the hull...having that wheel there now creates a hard spot that could put stress on the hull where it meets the rubber wheel...imagine if the hull took every bump in the road on that spot instead of the trailer being able to absorb the shock and distributing it evenly throughout the hull...i think i better solution would be to add spacers under the bunks which would in turn raise the entire hull off the trailer...i know what kind of look you are going for so that option would kind of collide with the whole idea.  another thing would be to move the float bar back so the keel is far enough back it wont hit...the only problem there is the boat being to far back on the trailer...do you have a pic of how it sits on the back of the trailer???  it may be too far forward from the beginning...my charger sat way to far forward for many years until i fixed it.  last option would be to heat up the cross member and pound the sharp edge down...or cut a small section out and re weld a plate for aesthetics.  either way great work...my hull is finally done on mine...waiting for the powder coater to finish up so the pump can be installed.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: Nick on March 09, 2009, 07:02:38 AM
nice work nick!!  the only concern i have is the boat not being able to "flex" the way it wants too...the whole reason the float bar is there is so the boat can "float" on the trailer in the front...this of coarse relieving strain on the hull...having that wheel there now creates a hard spot that could put stress on the hull where it meets the rubber wheel...imagine if the hull took every bump in the road on that spot instead of the trailer being able to absorb the shock and distributing it evenly throughout the hull...i think i better solution would be to add spacers under the bunks which would in turn raise the entire hull off the trailer...i know what kind of look you are going for so that option would kind of collide with the whole idea.  another thing would be to move the float bar back so the keel is far enough back it wont hit...the only problem there is the boat being to far back on the trailer...do you have a pic of how it sits on the back of the trailer???  it may be too far forward from the beginning...my charger sat way to far forward for many years until i fixed it.  last option would be to heat up the cross member and pound the sharp edge down...or cut a small section out and re weld a plate for aesthetics.  either way great work...my hull is finally done on mine...waiting for the powder coater to finish up so the pump can be installed.

I hear ya bro, and trust me I thought about the same thing. I guess I forgot to say that the problem of the boat hitting the trailer really only happens when you load and unload the boat from the trailer from what I can see. I think the trailer would really have to flex something fierce to make it actually contact the boat while in tow.

So my theorie was to put that rubber wheel on and keep the loading and unloading problem from occouring again. I know in those pictures it's hard to tell but the wheel is actually not touching the boat at all times. It's about a half inch off the boat, so there is still room for the flex.

As for the boats location on the trailer. It's already as far back as she can be, I thought the same thing. I think I've got it nailed now, the whole thing is just more solid now. IMO the trailer was flexing excessivly, it is 32 year old technology after all.
Title: Re: Nick's Hallett Resto
Post by: repoman on March 09, 2009, 08:48:35 AM
I hear ya bro, and trust me I thought about the same thing. I guess I forgot to say that the problem of the boat hitting the trailer really only happens when you load and unload the boat from the trailer from what I can see. I think the trailer would really have to flex something fierce to make it actually contact the boat while in tow.

So my theorie was to put that rubber wheel on and keep the loading and unloading problem from occouring again. I know in those pictures it's hard to tell but the wheel is actually not touching the boat at all times. It's about a half inch off the boat, so there is still room for the flex.

As for the boats location on the trailer. It's already as far back as she can be, I thought the same thing. I think I've got it nailed now, the whole thing is just more solid now. IMO the trailer was flexing excessivly, it is 32 year old technology after all.


thats good to hear...great work!! i know what you mean about trailer over flexing...they just dont make them sturdy back then...the trailer i have was custom built about 8 years ago and is vary stout...as soon as it stops snowing ill put some pix up of it.
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