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Title: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 11, 2007, 08:27:52 PM: Here the Placecraft tunnel we started today this will be a large Ford with set back Dominator ,most likely a two seater ,looking for triple digits, more to follow !! Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: pw_Tony on December 11, 2007, 08:40:13 PM: Sure will be alot faster than that Outboard >:D

Sure looks like a cool project. Can't wait to see what Warlock and Plesh has to say about it lol
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 11, 2007, 08:55:02 PM: What can I say? Were Jet boat performance :) :) :) Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 11, 2007, 08:57:39 PM: that thing just looks faster with out it ;)
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: SLCKREG on December 11, 2007, 09:08:00 PM: Looks good. :o Tom is that yours?
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 11, 2007, 09:15:09 PM: Greg its mine "but for a fleeting moment" it will soon be on the JBP auction block to help pay the bills (I got too many toys) Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 14, 2007, 08:12:32 PM: The "Wacker" is headed for its new owner ,watch here to see what comes back !! Tom (crazy ,barely fits in Rhondas super crew)
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: propless on December 14, 2007, 10:01:12 PM: Quote from: jet boat performance on December 14, 2007, 08:12:32 PM
The "Wacker" is headed for its new owner ,watch here to see what comes back !! Tom (crazy ,barely fits in Rhondas super crew)

Thats nothing Tom you should see the size of the fu##### one on the Daytona !!! Almost 6ft tall [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 16, 2007, 09:39:10 AM: Greetings everyone ,picked up the motor for the placecraft yesterday in socal ,its a 500 cu BBF stroker ,,dual Dominators, SCJ heads ,aluminum rods ,steelcrank etc we'll start mocking this up for install this next week Tom

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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 17, 2007, 08:59:51 PM: heres some pics of the Placecraft power plant ,gonna rip into at tommorow to see "whats up" Tom het how bout them "toilets" bet there good for some fuel economy huh ?
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jrork on December 17, 2007, 09:12:09 PM: Look at the intakes on those heads! Wow!
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 17, 2007, 09:24:39 PM: John its Crazy how much work went into "raising the floors in the heads and intake ports I'll take some more pics tommorow ,more details on the motor as things progress , The Big ford is supposed to have sent the Daytona 113 ? will find out more tommorow Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Blue on December 17, 2007, 10:35:28 PM: Man thats alot of carb
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 18, 2007, 09:24:25 AM: Quote from: Blue on December 17, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
Man thats alot of carb

Blue I can't disagree but that what the deal came with so we'll run with it Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: 2savage4you on December 18, 2007, 11:38:33 AM: Quote from: Blue on December 17, 2007, 10:35:28 PM
Man thats alot of carb

Yeah, normally its the good ole MPG theory ;) But in this case thats out the window here. Might as well just run fuel line down the intake and let her rip ;D

Dont mind me, im just jealouse >:D Another project that will kick ass :o

R U Gonna show some video on this when its finished. Would love to see it

Hint Hint

2sav
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 18, 2007, 08:40:25 PM: Video to come Bro !! ;D Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 20, 2007, 08:39:31 PM: So we "cracked open" the used BBF motor today for a little "look see" and heres what we found so far Tom
BTW
for you Chevy vs Ford guys them babies are Chevy rods on a Ford crank ;)

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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Hava Al on December 20, 2007, 08:40:47 PM: gee I wonder why??? lol
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: pw_Tony on December 20, 2007, 08:47:17 PM: Those are some thick F'in rods!
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jrork on December 20, 2007, 09:12:09 PM: Curious how many of us run them allynuminum (misspelled on purpose) rod things. I'm a steel kind of guy but given the maintenance and care that we give these motors, I bet those rods would last a surprisingly long time.
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 20, 2007, 10:35:15 PM: Personally I'm big on I's andf H's Crazy though if you look hard at the upper rod and lower cap "halves" they freeze them and break them vs cut and machine no two are exactly alike Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Blue on December 20, 2007, 11:29:30 PM: Aluminum rods are good stuff. They usually require some clearancing handle great power and actaully absorb some shock and vibration.

The bad
If you use them for drag racing you can get about 70 runs out of them before they need replacing. Brooks, Child&Albert,Oliver, Howard etc. all make em and alot of em are used in Top Fuel, alky etc.
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 21, 2007, 08:52:10 AM: Thanks Blue ,these have 4 passes at Bakes ,should be good for a while Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 21, 2007, 08:28:39 PM: Got some real progress today "makin the cut ...more to follow ! T
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 27, 2007, 08:19:56 PM: Got some more time in today on the "PC" ,hey thats a catchy boat Name maybe folks will think i means "politically correct" NOT !! Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: 82daytona on December 28, 2007, 05:11:11 PM: looking good
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 29, 2007, 08:25:39 AM: Thanks 82 D ,I should have more pics in a bit Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 29, 2007, 07:17:43 PM: Heres some more pics from today ,had some issues with "starter vs tunnel" but we'll over come that Startin to look like a Jet boat huh? Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: FORKEDUP on December 29, 2007, 10:11:47 PM: all i can say is WOW, damn nice work
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Ralph Brunt on December 30, 2007, 07:03:40 AM: looks great tom, i see the prob with the starter :-\
just a thought if you boxed the stringers in like rick did the starter would not be an issue, maybe too late now, unless you want to re do it.
we ran into the same issue with brads boat and did the same thing as you. got any pics of the rear of the motor/stringers?
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on December 30, 2007, 10:04:27 AM: Ralph ,The tunnel is just too narrow ,we ran into this on my TX 16 and similar problems on the Daytonas (not so much) The body of the standard and even the Tilton starters actually interferes with the motor alignment . On the last Daytona (Kregs) we used a new rail kit flywheel cover that facilitates a Top mount starter . On this project I'm trying to "budget" so I combined a Three point rear mount (has a boss for top mount starter) After I get all the set up done I'll ask Josh to go back and fab 'legs" for the rear B'hsg to stiffen it to the motor rails Even with a mini top mount we only have a small amount of clearance between the inside of the transom and the back of the starter body (hope this makes sense ;D Tom I'll take some more pics later today

Go Chargers !!!
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 03, 2008, 08:23:52 PM: Finished our "mock up" on our "5 point" Mount system today ,headers will be here next week, Jets gonna be done PDQ T
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: hotrod56cars on January 03, 2008, 09:38:34 PM: Bitchin work and thread. I saw a tunnel on San Diego's Craigslist with an outboard on it, this thread makes me think about things I wouldn't normally think about, like converting a outboard hull to jet drive. Keep it up and thanks again.
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Ralph Brunt on January 04, 2008, 07:25:35 AM: yes i see now, its the tunnel and not the stringer thats in the way. this is the shit i like to see (fabrication) thinking outside the box.
good work tom mmmmm, josh
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 08:27:29 AM: Thanks Guys , cant say it doesnt help to have the tools to do this too , HRc's see what brand /build tunnel that is ,might be condusive to a swap Ralph thanks ,did you get the plates made of do you need a pattern ? Tom

btw after pre oil I spun this motor (used) over last nite for a quick compression and cranking O' press test has 150 c/compresion on 7 cyls one hole with 30psi and mad exaust leakdown (same cyl)could be a rusty valve? more to follow
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Heatseeker on January 04, 2008, 04:29:32 PM: Quote from: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 08:27:29 AM
...150 c/compresion on 7 cyls one hole with 30psi and mad exaust leakdown (same cyl)could be a rusty valve? more to follow
:o :o :o

That's a bummer! I hope it's something simple Tom.
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 07:16:48 PM: Thanks Bro (btw Happy Birthday ;D Heatseeker!) We "aired" that cylinder today pulled the exaust valve spring and I "buzzed the valve stem a few times with my Makita (don't laugh) it came up to 120 psi still some very slight "hiss" from the ex side we'll see tommorow If its fixed Finished up the motor mounts today Socal hang on to your A$$ theres a hell of a storm headed your way Krazy !
Re the motor now we'll pull it again clean paint and shine ,then ready to plumb and wire wait tilll you see the crazy headers (if they come) Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: BOOST on January 04, 2008, 07:24:25 PM: Quote from: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 07:16:48 PM
Thanks Bro (btw Happy Birthday ;D Heatseeker!) We "aired" that cylinder today pulled the exaust valve spring and I "buzzed the valve stem a few times with my Makita (don't laugh) it came up to 120 psi still some very slight "hiss" from the ex side we'll see tommorow If its fixed Finished up the motor mounts today Socal hang on to your A$$ theres a hell of a storm headed your way Krazy !
Re the motor now we'll pull it again clean paint and shine ,then ready to plumb and wire wait tilll you see the crazy headers (if they come) Tom
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Very nice work,I can't wait to see It finished.
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 07:31:55 PM: Thanks Boost even after all these years and motors and boats and hotrods its still a huge "lump in the throat" exciting turn on to "hear it run" Since I Know very little about this motor other than the basic specs I'm sure its a "bad ass" anytime you have 13.5 comp 600 lift cam etc its just gotta "crackle" Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: BOOST on January 04, 2008, 07:42:03 PM: Quote from: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 07:31:55 PM
Thanks Boost even after all these years and motors and boats and hotrods its still a huge "lump in the throat" exciting turn on to "hear it run" Since I Know very little about this motor other than the basic specs I'm sure its a "bad ass" anytime you have 13.5 comp 600 lift cam etc its just gotta "crackle" Tom
Hopefully you'll get It running in a couple days,good luck,P.S. Can you get any good deals on steering cables ;D
Thanks Brian
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 04, 2008, 10:04:09 PM: Brian check your PMs Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 06, 2008, 07:03:49 PM: A few pics from yesterdays work ,some Guage,impeller and Battery action ... Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: rebel on January 06, 2008, 07:22:45 PM: Love the starter mount, but isn't u-joints a biatch to grease/change ?
Have not seen one like that before, very clean looking ;) 8)

-Rebel
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 06, 2008, 07:53:30 PM: Rob actually its pretty simple to get a "stinger" in to lube ,because of the "BB Ford in the tunnel action" we had to top mt the starter so we used a Three pt my Bell hsg but made it "solid with the "legs" (thus the 5pt delio) Trying to do this with the least ca$h outlay Tom
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 10, 2008, 08:27:28 AM: We scounged enough stainless lines and fittings along with what we were given to plumb this baby yesterday & a little electrical ,gettin down to it Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Marcsrollin on January 10, 2008, 06:34:13 PM: I don't know if anyone told you or not , but your valve covers don't have breathers in them! ;D ::)
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Oldsquirt on January 10, 2008, 07:44:50 PM: Marc, take a look at the tunnel ram, specifically in the open area between the front four runners and the back four. Appears to be a cleverly located breather in there.
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Marcsrollin on January 10, 2008, 08:18:08 PM: And here i am trying to be funny , Turns out I am just stupid! ;D
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 10, 2008, 08:46:50 PM: Marcs...Good eye ;) (damn you cats are a tough audience) ;) Old Squirt VERY good observation on the T/R (id like to take credit but thats from the prior builder/ guy) Here the pics of today I post up a lot of "mock ups" to stand back and kind of get a look at things at the end of the day ;D But were gettin there heres today Thanks guys !! Tom

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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: Legal Chemistry on January 11, 2008, 09:46:30 AM: Thanks for posting this.... it's good to see the actual work done as the build comes along. Lots to be learned.

LC
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 11, 2008, 08:19:19 PM: Thanks L/C we have to "process" these projects fairly quickly in order to start getting ready for spring kraziness but we still have fun along the way Tom (got more pics for tommorow)
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 14, 2008, 08:48:33 PM: Got a lot more but I'll tease ya'll with this from Sat (when Rhonda chased me out of the shop) check it out we were able to convert the OB double cable steering to "Jet" duallies ...Tom
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Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: flytime on January 14, 2008, 08:52:18 PM: Awesome us usual Tom. I need to buy a project boat and give it to you along with my credit card. You guys do awesome work!!!
Title: Re: Placecraft tunnel
Post by: jet boat performance on January 14, 2008, 09:03:49 PM: Thanks Bob ,!! "Plastic" works !!