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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:21:36 AM

Title: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:21:36 AM
 Well this project started last summer... just to help "perk" the boat up. My father had bought this bought a few years ago, and was content with it until a certain outboard had beat him  ;D. The boat was pretty much stock pump, no diverter or anything, with a BBC with some fancy headers and a tunnel ram... you know what all the fast guys run.  :screwy:

I told him I had some parts to pep it up, and got a bunch of pump parts and other stuff to help build it up, make it a little more efficient. He agreed to having a 50/50 usage of the boat. So he had brought it to one of the circle races and I took it home. Here is how it sat before.

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We brought it back to JR's house... and a HUGE thanks to him for letting me take up room at his house, and use his tools and equipment. It would take me over a year to build the pump half as good at my dirt shack LOL.

After pulling off the Transom adaptor and bowl... it was a fight with the impeller and nut. After all kinds of impacts, leverage, etc... we had to cut the nut off with a die grinder, which really isn't uncommon at all. But then when it was time to pull the impeller off... we realized this pump has never been taken apart in it's life. After hammers, torch's, freezing, etc etc etc... time to get the Saw Zawl out. Don't have any pics but it was a MUTHA to take off  :mad: Specially without damaging the shaft ( which we ended up replacing anyways). Here's a couple pics.

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:24:29 AM
After enough stripping, prepping grinding, etc... it was finally time to put it back together... try to polish up some old polished items, and make other parts work.

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:27:32 AM
There was some fabricating required... and hours and hours of sizing, fitting, sizing, fitting, grinding, more fitting  :banghead: I ended up making a Ride Plate Buckles Bracket, and making a $60 home made ride plate and shoe, probably isn't nearly as good as an adjustable one... but leave me alone I'm a broke phucka  ;D

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After a long time of helping build, and building myself hotrods and muscle cars, I just love doing little customizations here and there that alot of people wouldn't notice...
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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:35:11 AM
Also the Hondo originally came with a delta pad bottom. I decided to go to a round keel, without flipping the boat... ummm never going to do that again  :P After literally a week laying on my back, applying epoxy, sanding, flattening, 3 hours a day... I'm just gonna flip the f'in boat next time and get it done in a weekend!~  ::) It ended up pretty straight, but I will for sure be going back and flipping it to go over it with a fine tooth comb
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Here's an interesting tid-bit. I had aquired this split bowl, I was told it was a "Factory JC Split bowl". It was water lubricated on the bowl bushings, and the exit diameter is about 4.6 inches, and about 2 inches longer, MUCH smaller than a regular split bowl... I figured with a low horsepower boat, it would increase the velocity and potentially help it? I honestly never got a chance to test the theory. It was just too much a pain in the ass to pull the transom Cover. I also had to inlarge the transom adaptor by about 1.2" in diameter just to fit this bowl, which took me about 3 hours to do. I detailed the exit of the bowl with a long shank die grinder to try and make it as straight and as smooth as possible. I've spent many hours on the porting bench so I was decently confident.

Also had to throw some ghost pearl stripes on the bowl just for a touch, alot of people wouldn't notice it but I would know they're there to match the other stripes on the boat.

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Also all I had was an old school diverter, no o-ring, I bought at a swap meet years and years ago. It has a very deep reverse directional on it, that I had to chop off to help keep it from hanging in the water. One day I'll be able to afford a cool one like you guys  ;)

Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:42:07 AM
So the "pre" GPS runs were at 58mph.....Made alot of noise and didn't really move anywhere lol. I also added a droop.. didn't have any aggresor ones available at the time, so just got an American Turbine one. I must say the fit and finish of the Aggressor droop was MUCH better than the AT, but oh well.

After pump build it went 68mph... so the pump build was good for a 10mph increase. I just used a super sport loader, but hopefully will be getting a custom built one to try and get the ass a little more out of the water... it still plowed the water pretty well.

After about 2 weeks of running the boat the way it was... I decided it was time to up the horsepower. I took the top end off, ordered a cam, had a set of heads, hoping it would breathe a little better. The heads on their were just some cleaned up oval ports, and I ended up putting some closed chamber 396 Heads on it that were ported and done up by Geoff Mummert. I was told it was a 454 and never really bother to check when I put the top end on... won't make that mistake again. I seen the pistons were .060 over so I just figured it was a 468...

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 12:49:28 AM
I got the boat back together and ran it. It had dual 450 DP's on it, and ran 71mph. I switched over to my 660 center squirters as a back to back test, and picked up 2mph.... total now is 73mph.

I decided to re-ring and bearing the motor about 3 weeks ago, the damn thing just spit oil everywhere. Ray Burnette was EXTREMELY KIND and let me use his shop, tools, and GREAT advice for BBC's. I tore the motor down, and Ray pointed out to me a few things that said it more than likely wasn't a 454 at all. The motor ended up being a .060 396. So actually the little 396 that turned 5000rpm, liked the 1320cfm of carb on it better than the 900cfm of carb... I thought that was interesting.

Ray and I decided to trade shortblocks. He had a 2 bolt, a crank, rods, to trade for the 4 bolt 396, with forged crank and pop-ups. He didn't end up have the pistons I needed so I bought some Pistons from Marcsrollin and had them shipped to me. Once I can find the rod's (big shop lol) I'll be sending the rotating assembly off to balance, and then I'll  assembly the motor.

The quest for a pump gas, budget, 80mph boat will continue...

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 20, 2009, 04:25:33 PM
Since the motor was out, took the pump apart to have the impeller cut down. Even though it might not be the wisest decision to change the motor and impeller size all at once, I'm fairly confident the motor will still want a "B" Cut instead of the A it had.

So I took the impeller down to Dicucci boats to have it shaved down, where I've had a few other impellers cut. Joey Cucci and family are GREAT for having work done by them, I would recommend them to anyone. Everytime I've come in there to have an impeller cut Joey will put down whatever he's doing and do it right there, and let you watch. I always leave with good work at a great price, and knowing of a shop I can trust.  O0

(Yes I know it's not the right pic lol, didn't take one when he actually cut the back)
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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: beerjet on May 20, 2009, 05:01:57 PM
Good fukin job Tony !

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: jrork on May 20, 2009, 05:40:25 PM
Good fukin job Tony !

-beerjet-

X2.   What a great thread.
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 21, 2009, 01:05:35 AM
Holiday weekend comming up, and the motor isn't done  :o

Ray (Moneypit) saved the day again and let me use one of his motors... from pan to carb the whole thing was assembled, just drop in and wire up... didn't even have to touch the headers lol... Finally got it all done tonight and fired it up, hasn't run in 10 years, and got it to idle

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So pretty much ready for the River.... oh shit... forgot need to finish something up tomorrow...

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 21, 2009, 05:45:34 AM
So pretty much ready for the River.... oh shit... forgot need to finish something up tomorrow...

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yeah, let me know what kinda RPM's you turn with that setup!  ;D im sure the threads on the end of the shaft are worth somethin to push a little water! lol
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on May 21, 2009, 11:19:17 AM
yeah, let me know what kinda RPM's you turn with that setup!  ;D im sure the threads on the end of the shaft are worth somethin to push a little water! lol

You think a 6000rpm rev limiter will be high enough? That impeller is known as a Triple ZZZ cut  ;D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 20, 2009, 08:24:15 PM
Made a little progress. Finally found some decent bushed rods, should work alright. This is a "budget" build, but I think some worked over stock ones should be okay for a few river trips a year, didn't get to polish them though  :-\

Ray let me use his mill, so I set up some stops and drilled some additional oiling holes for the wrist pins, most of the other Eagle rods I've seen had 2 oiling holes, so I drilled into these ones to hopefully help it. Now the bottom end rotating assembly is finally off to balance, after it gets back should be able to finally put the motor together!

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 20, 2009, 08:32:54 PM
Since I'm waiting for balancing now, I get to try a hand at polishing something that's not just flat aluminum  ;D

Started by blasting the bellhousing and using a bench buffer to try and get a shine out of it.... ahhhh this is gonna take alot longer than I thought  :banghead:

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: GT Jets on June 20, 2009, 08:47:01 PM
Since I'm waiting for balancing now, I get to try a hand at polishing something that's not just flat aluminum  ;D

Started by blasting the bellhousing and using a bench buffer to try and get a shine out of it.... ahhhh this is gonna take alot longer than I thought  :banghead:

Try using some 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper on the nude aluminum first, it will literally cut the polishing time by 75%... 8)

Do not sand to and fro   O0  ;D, sand in small circles, making the swirls non uniform.

My nephew is a metal polishing mofo, just can't keep him motivated :mad:

Looks like it's gonna turn out awsome.

GT
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: flytime on June 20, 2009, 08:48:48 PM
Lookin good HOLLYWOOD :thumbup:
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 20, 2009, 08:50:01 PM
Try using some 400 grit wet/dry sandpaper on the nude aluminum first, it will literally cut the polishing time by 75%... 8)

Do not sand to and fro   O0  ;D, sand in small circles, making the swirls non uniform.

My nephew is a metal polishing mofo, just can't keep him motivated :mad:

Looks like it's gonna turn out awsome.

GT

Should I step up to a finer grit after 400? Or should I take it straight to the buffer wheel? Thanks for the advice  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 20, 2009, 08:50:41 PM
Lookin good HOLLYWOOD :thumbup:

Names Tony  ;D... and thanks Bob
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: GT Jets on June 20, 2009, 09:00:54 PM
Should I step up to a finer grit after 400? Or should I take it straight to the buffer wheel? Thanks for the advice  :thumbup:

I would think that the 400 would be good to go, sort of depends on the quality of the aluminum, cast is normally pretty easy to polish after the 400, if it wont clean up, try 600. ;)

Another little cheat, put a small amount of dishsoap in the water, it cleans and makes the paper last longer  :thumbup:

GT
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 29, 2009, 11:15:52 PM
Well finally made some progress, I've spent the last few days trying to get a decent polish out of this bellhousing  :banghead:

Started with 600, then went to 400, then to 220  ;D Damn those cast pits take FOREVER to polish out!
I decided not to make a career out of it, and just shined it up  :P Still alot better than it was.

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RUH ROH  ;D Planning to get a Turn Fin made by our favorite pillow fighter, Beerjet  8)

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Also have to fix the RIB under the deck. So we had to strip all the carpet out, not sure if I want to keep the polished wood look, or go back to carpet, thoughts?

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Marcsrollin on June 29, 2009, 11:38:41 PM
Are gonna be out for the 4th??
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 29, 2009, 11:46:10 PM
Are gonna be out for the 4th??

Nope  >:( Was shootin for it... then realized it's just not gonna happen  :banghead:

Not everyone can paint, build a motor, pump, etc in a week  ;D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 29, 2009, 11:47:37 PM
Are gonna be out for the 4th??

But it would be fun, as long as this don't happen again

Quote from: Sebastian
Tony wants to know what all you hoes doing over here
  :sly:  ;D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Marcsrollin on June 29, 2009, 11:50:53 PM
Where is that quote from , he's not on the site.
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 29, 2009, 11:53:21 PM
Where is that quote from , he's not on the site.

I made it sucka....
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Marcsrollin on June 29, 2009, 11:54:43 PM
I remember now! ;D ;D Good drunken times!!


Sorry for the thread jack!

Now back on topic.
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on June 30, 2009, 10:32:31 PM
A little more work. Ground the rib down and glass, and dash, to hopefully repair it strong where someone else had done a half ass repair on the deck. Also 3 showers later I'm still itching  :banghead:

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Factory502 on July 01, 2009, 09:57:09 AM
Project looks killer- try covering expose skin with talcom/ baby powder and take a cold shower- it sux but it might cut down on the itching-
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: CHROMEY on July 01, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
wow....good thread tony..awesome details hope it all comes together for you  :thumbup:
the fabrication came out great on those pieces..
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on July 01, 2009, 11:10:55 AM
Project looks killer- try covering expose skin with talcom/ baby powder and take a cold shower- it sux but it might cut down on the itching-

Hmm I'll try that.... always assumed hot shower did better.... it's ok I took another 2 showers today  ;D

Thanks Chromey, now I got a bright idea of polishing the whole jet pump  >:D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: CHROMEY on July 01, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
Quote
Thanks Chromey, now I got a bright idea of polishing the whole jet pump 

if you do ...powercoat clear over it  and it will keep polished....
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on July 29, 2009, 11:16:25 PM
I'm gonna bring my real camera to the shop tomorrow to take some real pics  :banghead:

Got some progress though! Finally got most of my engine parts, got the block final washed and painted. Checked my crank bearing clearances, all between .0025-.00275. Got the rings file fit, crank and cam are in and torqued. Hopefully my spirolocks will come in tomorrow and I can get the shortblock finished! And if everything goes to plan, we want to try and race it at Long Beach. But all the stars have to align and everything has to go perfect in order for that to happen, and if it doesn't get done I'm going to the Dumont night drags  :screwy:

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on July 29, 2009, 11:19:39 PM
And if everything goes to plan, we want to try and race it at Long Beach.

sweet....we are down to 4 boats for long beach and could really use a 5th boat to keep the class going in case someone breaks.

who is going to drive it?
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on July 29, 2009, 11:28:32 PM
sweet....we are down to 4 boats for long beach and could really use a 5th boat to keep the class going in case someone breaks.

who is going to drive it?

Planning on my pops to drive it.... but the same weekend He has a Summit Drag race and some other bracket class.... but he already committed to it, if it's gets done he's driving  ;D Trying to get me in the driver seat, but I ain't got health insurance, and I'm not near the drive my father is. Maybe I can get Gary to drive it  ;D Don't know yet, it's all up in the air, so much work still with very little time... I got to pull a Marcsrollin or somethin  >:D And some additional turning hardware should help it alot.
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on July 29, 2009, 11:38:50 PM
put your dad behind the wheel!

just tell him no hot doggin after the race  :-X  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on July 30, 2009, 10:22:09 AM
put your dad behind the wheel!

just tell him no hot doggin after the race  :-X  :o  ;D

Ouch!.... haha  :D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on July 31, 2009, 11:30:24 PM
So we're not gonna make Long Beach  :banghead:

Was throwin the pistons into the block today, and was turning it over to do cylinder #2, and saw that the piston was still a 1/4" deep....

So I I checked all my specs, crank, piston, rods, etc. And I found out where my fuck up was, when I got the pistons there was a piece of paper with the part number on them, and I checked it online and they were the right pistons I needed. Well today I actually looked at the actual pistons themselves and realized they were a different part number  :banghead:. The pistons are for 6.385" Rods, not stock length. So it SUCKS we definetly can't make it to long beach, but I guess it gives a good excuse to go long rod  ;D

Oh well, it would have been a very tight squeeze anyway....
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 01, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
just deck the block and weld an extension in the rod and you got it :screwy: :screwy: :-\

good catch tony :thumbup:
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on August 29, 2009, 04:45:19 PM
Alot has been done to the boat, but only have a few pics at this time, I'll take some later  :-\

It's crazy how a single part can turn into a project

So this is my Project Bowl  ;D

Started out with the old dominator bowl..... where the inside diameter of the exit is around 4.5"s I think? Ray was nice enough to chuck my bowl up in the mill, and go to town with a 6" holesaw so we can get the same exit diameter of a standard JG bowl. After that the bowl was blended for the transition, and I had previously done alot of work on the vanes of the bowl with a long shank bit. Don't really know if this is going to help or hurt, but at least it'll be somewhere close to a standard JG which alot of people get good results with.

And then onto polishing. After the bowl was cut and blended, I proceeded to strip the bowl of all it's paint (even though I spent hours trying to do a tricky paint job lol). Then I blasted it, and began to sand and polish. Right into sanding I knew the bowl would look like dog shit, it would look like a polished piece sprinkled with pepper  :screwy:. There was waaayyyy too many tiny pits in the surface to make it look decent. So I up and took the bowl to a local machinist to have the outside turned (along with a groove cut so I can run an o-ring). He turned it down, and it came out alot better than it was. The bowl still isn't perfect with all it's pits, but it'll do for now until I can pay someone to do a professional polish job  :sly:

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on September 03, 2009, 09:29:04 PM
So finally the intake has to come out, a part I was dreading for a long time  :sly:

The whole procedure took about 2 hours, lots of grinding, cutting, phuckin around... But it came out with very little damage to the fiberglass thankfully.... I've been told getting it out is the hard part, and putting it in is much easier... I can only hope lol

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on September 03, 2009, 09:32:22 PM
While I was busy with work, other projects, gf etc, JR was nice enough to do most of my woodwork and fiberglass. It all came out REALLY nice. new wood where the stereo used to be, fixed the under dash rib with new wood and fiberglass, added a support inbetween the stringers, cut the whole for the turn fin, and hopefully get the floor done. I think I'm over the hump finally and shit's gonna start commin together!  :thumbup: Excited to see what the difference will be with all the changes I've made

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Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: crewchief22 on September 03, 2009, 09:36:04 PM
Looks like it is coming along.  Keep it up and it'll be done in no time.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: 76 Bonneville on September 03, 2009, 09:42:08 PM
Looking good Tony.
I may be cutting another fin in. What's the easiest way to do that.  I was going to drill a hole front and back, then use a grinder between.
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: OC2Vegas on September 03, 2009, 09:45:36 PM
Looks good, come up to Vegas...have some sanding that needs to be finished up  ;)
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on September 03, 2009, 09:58:37 PM
Looking good Tony.
I may be cutting another fin in. What's the easiest way to do that.  I was going to drill a hole front and back, then use a grinder between.

Pretty much that's how we did it. We would have built the "hurry round hondo" fin by now, but it won't fit without modifying the trailer  :banghead:
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: pw_Tony on September 03, 2009, 10:00:23 PM
Looks like it is coming along.  Keep it up and it'll be done in no time.  :thumbup:

Thanks man! I figured a little every day will get it done pretty soon.

Looks good, come up to Vegas...have some sanding that needs to be finished up  ;)

Dude, you have no idea  :D My nickname around here is "Captain SandAlot"... I always seem to be sanding on the pump, or the bottom, or the interior... sanding never stops  >:D
Title: Re: Project Hondo Pantera
Post by: 2savage4you on September 04, 2009, 05:51:16 AM
Tony , i was at the shop a few days ago and checked out the Hondo.. Those pics don't do it justice . it is really looking good ...

you have come a long ways with it , great job :thumbup:
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