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Title: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 01, 2009, 05:25:43 PM
:-X
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-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: BOOST on February 01, 2009, 05:44:59 PM
  Mist be a crappy cell phone pic Omar I don't understand Project mill ? looks to be an BBC in the back of your truck.
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: 2savage4you on February 01, 2009, 05:45:12 PM
You might need to resize that pic, might be a little large :D
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 01, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
I've dubbed it my "sleeper Mill"
If I can ever afford a new boat.
That's the mill thats gonna put the rest of the comp jet class to sleep!  :-X  :sly:
And there is a larger pic in the gallery suckas !!!!!!!!

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: pw_Tony on February 01, 2009, 09:38:27 PM
Dammit thought it was gonna be a Bridgeport  ;D

I got a boat over here on a tandem axel trailer if you need somethin to put it in  ;)
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 01, 2009, 09:54:41 PM
Unfortunatly, I have big plans that wont be able to come to fruition with my single income.
Mama is in school and I'd like to buy a house before they are out of reach again.
Anyways, the plan is to go big  :screwy:
We'll see.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: jrork on February 02, 2009, 04:41:35 PM
Gen 6.............but how big??????
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 02, 2009, 10:46:07 PM
Gen 6.............but how big??????

Yes and how can you tell  :sly:

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: 2savage4you on February 03, 2009, 11:04:45 AM
Yes and how can you tell  :sly:

-beerjet-

my guess is , timing cover and no mech puel pump chinga dera :D

want me to tell you how big it is too :o
 ;D

Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: BOOST on February 03, 2009, 06:34:30 PM
 Any ideas with this project what cubic inch? so SCJB members can start looking for deals to help get you back on the water 8)
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 03, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
I appreciate the thought Brian.
I really need to focus spending any money on bills right now  :banghead:

It's a Gen 6 502 Mercury I'll snap a pic of the tag.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: jrork on February 04, 2009, 06:01:56 PM


It's a Gen 6 502 Mercury I'll snap a pic of the tag.

-beerjet-

Yah buddy!!!  Hell for stout.........  pics please...... ;D
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 05, 2009, 08:43:56 PM
Yah buddy!!!  Hell for stout.........  pics please...... ;D

There is a great story behind it (I think it's great anyways) and in the process I made a great friend.
I havent had a chance to really go over it.
It actually came out of a 23' Cougar tunnel and had a whipple on it.
I met some super cool folks rounding this bad boy up.
I'll head down to Team Cold Beer Racing headquarters and snap some pics and do some snooping around.

Thanks again Greg ! ;)

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 07, 2009, 08:54:11 PM
So I decided to go down into the labs of Team Col' beer Racing today.
Snapped a couple of pics.
Any info and specs and capabilities will be appreciated.

Maybe Glen can help me out with this one.

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So I get one head peeled off, Low and behold three of the four bolts along the very bottom row have the heads ground down on an angle.
One is down so far, my socket wont grab it well enough to take the bolt off  :banghead:
Tommorrow the grinder comes out  :mad:
No biggy.
If it was easy, it wouldnt be fun  :D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: spectra 81 on February 07, 2009, 10:45:39 PM
Hey buddy are you complaining?lol  head bolts came that way to clear IMCO powerflows. Had to do the same fuckin thing on the new one.If you dont have success ,i made a special wrench for that issue .hows everything going? call me greg
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: GT Jets on February 07, 2009, 10:45:59 PM
BJ, do you have the block numbers that are stamped into the serial boss?, That there is a sweetheart!

GT
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: spectra 81 on February 07, 2009, 10:53:17 PM
Iam pretty sure its a 435hp mag killer start to a build!
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 12:19:17 AM
Hey buddy are you complaining?lol  head bolts came that way to clear IMCO powerflows. Had to do the same fuckin thing on the new one.If you dont have success ,i made a special wrench for that issue .hows everything going? call me greg

Nah nah .
Not complaining.
That was a hickup compared to the sh!t I've had to deal with in the past.
I figured it was the exhaust that caused the issue.

Everything is good so far Greg.
Been busy at work finally.
I get antsy and start fockin with sh!t.
I'll give ya ring tomorrow during the day.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 12:25:39 AM
BJ, do you have the block numbers that are stamped into the serial boss?, That there is a sweetheart!

GT

10237300...502.......96-up...4-bolt, Gen.VI, 4.466" bore

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: jrork on February 08, 2009, 07:26:55 AM
Nice motor.  That is the foundation for my new one as well.   Congrats
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 10:58:57 AM
Anyone know where to get the specs on the 088 heads?
14097088...91-up...rect...OPEN...Gen.V 454/502 HO, 118cc chamber
Intake runner size ???
How bout someone to clean the ports up too.
Nothing major, just smooth things out in there.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: 76NORDIC on February 08, 2009, 01:30:02 PM
Anyone know where to get the specs on the 088 heads?
14097088...91-up...rect...OPEN...Gen.V 454/502 HO, 118cc chamber
Intake runner size ???
How bout someone to clean the ports up too.
Nothing major, just smooth things out in there.

-beerjet-
      Hey Omar how about Dave over at A & D   for the port work ;D
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: spectra 81 on February 08, 2009, 01:35:37 PM
I am pretty sure the 088 is the direct replacement for the 990 as relates to the gen 6 block
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 08, 2009, 01:44:38 PM
I am pretty sure the 088 is the direct replacement for the 990 as relates to the gen 6 block

That's a big 10-4 there good buddy.
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: jrork on February 08, 2009, 03:23:09 PM
That's a big 10-4 there good buddy.

yup yup
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 04:12:43 PM
What cc are the intake runners ???

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Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 08, 2009, 04:34:45 PM
What cc are the intake runners ???

-beerjet-

325CC give or take a few CC
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 04:38:33 PM
325CC give or take a few CC
I was hoping for that at the very least.

I hope your right.  :-\

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 08, 2009, 04:40:01 PM
How dare you doubt me!  :mad:

HAHA, I believe I'm correct my ninja.
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 04:45:49 PM
How dare you doubt me!  :mad:

HAHA, I believe I'm correct my ninja.

 :D I believe you ! I believe you !

I've never found any reference to the runner cc's on the 990's so whatever those were, I knew the 088's would be the same being the replacements.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: GT Jets on February 08, 2009, 04:47:07 PM
Buy a cc'ing kit and check it out!

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CCA%2D4975&N=700+4294925139+4294925138+4294859801+115&autoview=sku

GT
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: Luckie Stiff on February 08, 2009, 04:52:30 PM
From what I've read, and I could be wrong, 990's are great heads for a factory iron head BUT they really don't start making their power until 6500 RPM or so, that being said, a set of 781 oval ports are a good choice for a jet boat, at least that's what I got from it.
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: BOOST on February 08, 2009, 05:00:40 PM
More money on new heads :banghead: hell big are you going on this Omar?
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Buy a cc'ing kit and check it out!

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=CCA%2D4975&N=700+4294925139+4294925138+4294859801+115&autoview=sku

GT

You know Glen.
I thought about it.
I remember a science assignment in elementary where we had to figure out the volume of random objects using the same method.
It would just kill me to ruin a perfectly good set of heads.
It's not like I want to do some serious grinding on it anyways, just smooth it out a bit.
I just dont want to screw it up.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 05:06:31 PM
More money on new heads :banghead: hell big are you going on this Omar?

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-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: spectra 81 on February 08, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
Omar ,hows it going? You know there's tons of motors running those heads and alot of them run very well. Do some research on builds using those heads that will def help you make your choice of cam /intake which you ALREADY KNOW is more important to overall performance. I have a set of 781 if you want them but than i think you have headgasket sealing issues with the gen 6 block could be wrong on that though. puttin a buch of shit for -sale in classifieds if you know some one thats wants something buzz me PS raining like hell right now
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: beerjet on February 09, 2009, 03:52:43 AM
Omar ,hows it going? You know there's tons of motors running those heads and alot of them run very well. Do some research on builds using those heads that will def help you make your choice of cam /intake which you ALREADY KNOW is more important to overall performance. I have a set of 781 if you want them but than i think you have headgasket sealing issues with the gen 6 block could be wrong on that though. puttin a buch of shit for -sale in classifieds if you know some one thats wants something buzz me PS raining like hell right now

Thanks Greg .
These heads are really close to what I want from the aftermarket anyways.
I might have chosen a larger port just in case c.i.d. limit goes up but these should support quite a bit right where I'm at.
I just want to build something stout.
We'll see what all this Chevy iron can do  :D

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Project mill
Post by: povertyjet on February 09, 2009, 04:57:00 AM
Ya can't put Mk IV 781 heads on a Gen VI block.  I think iron heads & manifolds are the best choice for boats vs aluminum anyways. 

The expansion/contraction rates are the same as the block.
No corrosion issues of aluminum.
they run cooler than aluminum.

and the best reason is......


they are cheaper!!!!!

p-jet
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