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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2007, 05:57:57 PM »
oh the suspenseeeeeee
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #101 on: November 18, 2007, 06:09:39 PM »
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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2007, 06:20:24 PM »
Hey Omar....... I understand your day was as good as mine.

We're gonna have to install a light bar off a tow truck on Chromey's Omega....lol
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2007, 06:22:33 PM »
Hey Omar....... I understand your day was as good as mine.

We're gonna have to install a light bar off a tow truck on Chromey's Omega....lol
No wonder we didnt see chromey or you today .

I have to give a huge thanks to 76 bonnevile for the tow and Glasscutter for letting me and my buddy tag along in his ride .

-beerjet-
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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #104 on: November 18, 2007, 07:31:23 PM »
Mine runs better in the fog.Ill be there 8:00 or 9:00am,total of 5 boats with me.(rivertard).

Holy Sh!t! Your still around Mike? LMAO!

Whats up?

Well how did everything go? Did she at least float? Get the bugs worked out and ready for Parker?
Jason
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #105 on: November 18, 2007, 07:38:10 PM »
yah!! What the hell happened???
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #106 on: November 18, 2007, 07:44:13 PM »
oh what a day >:(
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #107 on: November 18, 2007, 07:46:29 PM »
well, what happened?
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #108 on: November 18, 2007, 07:54:48 PM »
No wonder we didnt see chromey or you today .

I have to give a huge thanks to 76 bonnevile for the tow and Glasscutter for letting me and my buddy tag along in his ride .

-beerjet-
No problem on the tow, glad we could help. I've been at that end of the rope a few times over the years myself. Did you figure out what the problem was?  
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #109 on: November 18, 2007, 08:34:24 PM »
well, i was there for about 30 min....45min tops and left. Thanks to everyone who came out to support and I am sorry for not getting to talk to many of you. We had to rush to the ER (Brunt Racing) get the patient (Raspberry) back on the operating table.

First off - the steering was backwards - in the mess of the rush to get this thing ready, i didnt even look to see if the damn thing was put on right. So I said screw it and was going to at least get this damn boat on a plane - I deserved that, safe or not.

The boat didnt even make it out of the no wake zone and the damn thing died.

First thing we thought was that it was flooded....but then noticed there was no fuel pressure....or spark....so we assumed it was the pin on the distributor.....but that was fine when we pulled it.....then we noticed the cam wasnt spinning....so we assumed it was a cam pin.

pulled the timing cover to find this....





timing chain and gears completely destroyed...we figured it was the POS edlebrock shit we used....so we had to pull the oil pan to sift out all the metal from the timing chain and gear that had fallen into the pan. After we drained the oil and pulled the pan....i found this...



....the fuel pump arm broke off and went into the timing chain...causing it to granade.....it was a 4 day old clay smith fuel pump. I am going to swing by clay smith tomorrow and see if they have any ideas as to what caused this and get a replacement.

We ripped it apart, cleaned it up, and put it back together.....in about 5 hours.

Here is a few pics of the boat at the ramp before the mayhem began....







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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #110 on: November 18, 2007, 08:39:35 PM »
Ouch, don't see that everyday.

So what's the new plan? Throw a timing gear set ($40?) and another fuel pump?

Not race time yet, still got some hours left. I hope you can make it  :)
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #111 on: November 18, 2007, 08:41:24 PM »
Major thanks to Ralph and his Pops....i honestly dont know what I would do without you guys...









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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #112 on: November 18, 2007, 08:44:28 PM »
Ouch, don't see that everyday.

nope.  :-\

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So what's the new plan? Throw a timing gear set ($40?) and another fuel pump?

done.  >:D

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Not race time yet, still got some hours left. I hope you can make it  :)

i will make it..even if it kills me....and I have had a few close calls...

the motor is running again and I'll be testing in havasu tuesday/wednesday.
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #113 on: November 18, 2007, 08:52:21 PM »
That's the spirit B-Rad  stiff drink   stiff upper lip  stiff . . . well you know the drill.  Good luck at Parker.  Sorry we missed you today.  Hey BeerJ  I still have some of your beers.  I'll keep em cold for ya.
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #114 on: November 18, 2007, 09:06:13 PM »
Not trying to be a smart ass, but how are the valves ? Do you have dish pistons ? I don't honestly think the fuel pump was the cause. I have had that happen in my race truck before once, Cloyes set and Carter pump. The chains have to be inspected before use as I have had to send 3 back to manufacturer on different occasions. It is alot more common than you would think, and is not an Edlebrock problem. I would do a cyl pressure test or leak down test, nothing worse than losing a engine that could have been saved.
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #115 on: November 18, 2007, 09:49:09 PM »
Here is a closer picture of the broken off piece of the pump arm....



there is teeth marks and it is crushed...like it went into the timing set.

Along with the new fuel pump, this was a brand new timing chain set.

I will get a compression tester and do a test. I've been meaning to anyways...thanks for the suggestion.

When we discovered that the cam wasnt turning at the launch ramp, my first concern was the valves, as you stated. I asked Ralph Sr and he said that its not a concern and I have plenty of clearance. From my experience with VW motors (take a 1.8 turbo 20 valve for example) when you throw a timing belt ...you just distroyed your valve train...all 20 of them....and they are roughly $120 a piece, not to mention the cost of head work on 20 valve ports. We went through it on a buddy's Audi TT and a VW GTI. Not fun any way you look at it.
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #116 on: November 18, 2007, 10:14:23 PM »
brad, you going to be at havasu from when to when i should be there on friday if i can close up all loose ends of my business, xmas now the other company starts to really crank up and where you going to be what area
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #117 on: November 18, 2007, 10:21:36 PM »
brad, you going to be at havasu from when to when i should be there on friday if i can close up all loose ends of my business, xmas now the other company starts to really crank up and where you going to be what area

I am driving out tuesday morning...racing in parker friday and saturday...drive back sunday. Marc will be driving out with me....Woman! (Kate) is driving out wednesday night and bigred (kyle) is driving out thursday night loaded on tryptophan.
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #118 on: November 19, 2007, 05:58:43 AM »
That sucks Brad. Sorry to here you had all that trouble.
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #119 on: November 19, 2007, 06:46:27 AM »
To bad we missed you at the lake, but glad to hear your going to make it to Parker.  ;D

Thanks to Flytime for the pics of the Hondo in action, I'll to get a few posted soon.

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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #120 on: November 19, 2007, 08:21:35 AM »
Brad sorry the wet test went poorly, we were all cheering for you to have a succesful day. IMO the fuel pump arm broke first & interfered with (and broke) the T chain. re the valves ,cam size and cam timing is everything if the motor has compression and starts and runs its unlikely theres any problem there. Let me know what if anything you might need to get you back on track! Happy to help in anyway we can  Tom and crew
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #121 on: November 19, 2007, 09:00:02 AM »
Sucks all went the way it did. Better now than at the races. Good luck, like Tom said, if you need anything and I have it I'll overnight it to you.
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #122 on: November 19, 2007, 09:19:18 AM »
well, i was there for about 30 min....
First off - the steering was backwards - in the mess of the rush to get this thing ready, i didnt even look to see if the damn thing was put on right. So I said screw it and was going to at least get this damn boat on a plane - I deserved that, safe or not.

No not too safe or smart. We had a boat get out at Hawaiian that had the rack flipped and the steering was backwards. The dealer took the boat to the water and discoverd the problem, said 'screw it' he could drive it like that and took the new owners for a test drive instead of taking 15 minutes to correct it. Long story short, he couldn't drive it like that and in a turn got flustered and stuffed the boat into a mountain, and in the process struffed the new owners wife through the windshield. It was a tri hull jet. Tore her face completly off, they had to air lift her to a hospital to save her. Huge lawsuit, she collected big bucks, deservedly so, from Hawaiian the dealer.

Sometimes the lack of judgement that boaters show just totally amazes me.  Hate to say it but I'm glad your boat broke before you hurt yourself, or worse, someone else.

Better luck next time and you might want to get in the habit of double checking your work.  ;)
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #123 on: November 19, 2007, 09:58:02 AM »
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wish i could come see it hit the waterrrrr that will be so neatooooo

you should have seen him hit the green bouy...lol  ;D


im glad i was out there to help anybody who needed it....(3- tows by the end of the day) i went looking for omar yesterday and could not find him ( i was sure i could spot the orange boat from accross the lake)
but i missed you omar, you already put it away on the trailer.....i was going to go get more gas and go over and see you in the cove and keep you company but my little one was restless and we needed to take her home....
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it was cool to see everybody again....and ps. can i get some karma around here people!!!!!
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Re: Raspberry Maiden Voyage - Elsinore
« Reply #124 on: November 19, 2007, 10:12:39 AM »
Hey Brad , sorry you had those problems but sounds like you guys are some tenacious MOFO,s (tear down ) good to have friends(Ralph and his dad) I got to meet Ralph and 76 boneville and drive by hi to you .I can't believe how well your boat looked for as much time you had to work on it ,I was pretty excited seeing it launch .Wish I could of B.S with you guys more but I have a cast on my foot and once I had boat in the water I couldn't come to shore with out putting my boat back on the trailerand I was working on it and burning off some old fuel . My boat ran great  but I,m down a good 8 mph after jet rebuild ,I checked my timing yesterday ( have msd-6 with msd mech dist ,when i had engine out it was frozen rusted cleaned and lubed ) I could only get about 10 degrees adv @ 2500 rpm set initial timing at 5 BTC but didn't run good ended up setting it at 10 BTC with about 20 to 22 degrees total . Any ideas , boat ran great other wise will chck comp today for low hole . Any way Good luck to all at Bluewater and have a good Thanksgiving .
Jimbo
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