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Title: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on June 11, 2008, 08:20:20 am
We've decided to go forward to rig and "partially restore" this cool find not certain what/how its going to be powered with but it should be fun Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: KonaCole on June 11, 2008, 08:46:46 am
Its time to watch the pros get r done... again ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on June 11, 2008, 11:29:29 am
Hey Tom, Makes me feel good she went to a good home, would have been a shame to see it go to "Sanger Heaven", looking forward to watching it become something else entirely.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on June 11, 2008, 11:34:56 am
Is that Tom Papp's old boat?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on June 11, 2008, 04:29:03 pm
Damn, that boat is awesome.  Post up some better pics....better yet give the camera to Rhonda.  She'll get us some more pics and you get wrenching
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on June 11, 2008, 09:24:18 pm
EVIL BLACK BOX WITH "EYE" Captures ones spirit 'I'll work with out Thanks!

 However !News flash ,we had a call on the Machine monday from a Major network show (which needs to remain nameless for now) wanting to Know if we'd like to "partner with them" on a Jet drive powered "Hm Hm" Kind of an Orange county Chopper of Jets thing (when Josh called me I was in frikken histerical) , I told the  producer my people would call his people maybe we'd do lunch  ,now where my ascot ?? and bull horn ;D Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on June 11, 2008, 09:28:56 pm
Dont forget about us little people Tom  :'(

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on June 11, 2008, 09:32:26 pm
i had a certain inquiry once like that and a certain individual got a little too excited and scared them off.

hope it works out for you!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on June 11, 2008, 09:35:35 pm
 LOL ,   Just thinking about the JBP "theme" boats.   ::) ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on June 11, 2008, 09:38:40 pm
Hey Tom, I had a friend who owned Challenger jetoats in Oregon, he actually built the jetboat for the Batman movie, you can buy advertising like that! 8)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on June 12, 2008, 08:12:56 pm
I just rememeber the "Speedvision" episose a couple yeard ago where they took a pretty decent 19 "daytona" hull put it upside down on a beater car frame and made a two seater sports car out of it  ???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Marcsrollin on June 12, 2008, 08:15:30 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on June 12, 2008, 08:12:56 pm
I just rememeber the "Speedvision" episose a couple yeard ago where they took a pretty decent 19 "daytona" hull put it upside down on a beater car frame and made a two seater sports car out of it  ???

Are you sure that wasent monster garage and it wasent a ultra?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on June 12, 2008, 08:49:02 pm
Quote from: Marcsrollin on June 12, 2008, 08:15:30 pm
Are you sure that wasent monster garage and it wasent a ultra?
That episode made me cry  :'( , that was a nice jet boat.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on June 12, 2008, 09:41:01 pm
 Oh yea ,  Tom you still need to get some pics of the secret bottom on this racer  ;) .  Send the youngster under there !!

 Your not distracting me with this TV show stuff  :sly:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 05, 2008, 07:35:42 pm
The UFO is "back in the building" and ready to be rigged More to follow ! Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on July 05, 2008, 07:46:19 pm
cant wait to see the progress, i know you guys will do it proud ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 06, 2008, 08:52:11 am
Thanks Ralph fortunatley for us the boat is pretty much rigged already (just needs to be reassembled and some TLC ) Just really want to get it in the water right now ,very curious to se how it "works" the bottom is very different than my  Sanger Sprint I'll try to find the pics Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 08, 2008, 08:51:33 pm
Too cool Josh talke me out of A "MONSTER" tach ,found this working Jones mechanical tach in the warehouse (boat already has a cable) Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on July 08, 2008, 09:19:19 pm
God bless you Josh !

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 08, 2008, 09:35:05 pm
Tom, Josh hit it on the head, I wish I could have found that Moon tach that was in there, it was a cool gauge. Envy is now kicking in, very glad it went to you guys ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: lilrick on July 10, 2008, 08:51:59 am
Cool boat. I 'm sure it will work better than a certain yellow one I know about. ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: CHROMEY on July 10, 2008, 01:08:50 pm
if you need a driver, im game   ;D ( it better be a max limit motor cause im fat )  :o
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 10, 2008, 08:45:35 pm
Whats up Rick ? Hows the Family ?  Gt can confirm but this Sanger IMO is a no sh*t race boat ,never was a "laker"  has some very unique features watch the transformation in the next 72 hrs ,if all goes well it'll be "turn key"  We decide to try to Knock it out if possible tommorow ! (got my HPC Econo drag headers today Stay tuned !

Chromey we could make it a center seat and steering "Jobby' for ya Bro 1
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 13, 2008, 08:55:08 am
Made some serious progress on the Sanger yesterday ,decided to pull the motor from the 16 Tahiti ,with the Josh adaptors the SBC is dimensionally the same length as a BBC (for later ;D) ,Just want to get the Sanger "wet"  this year here some Pics of the "reverse jet install too goes in from the inside due to transom adaptor design ( :screwy:) 
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: flytime on July 13, 2008, 08:58:31 am
Looking good Tom and Company. You might just have to bring it up to LSAR in a week for a little test run ;). See you there ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 13, 2008, 10:09:23 am
Think I'm gonna bring the Flatty !  8)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: skee on July 13, 2008, 12:08:05 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 13, 2008, 10:09:23 am
Think I'm gonna bring the Flatty !  8)
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Tom where is that picture taken? THAT is a Bitchin' Picture!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 13, 2008, 12:08:38 pm
Look's good fellas, envy still running high over here!, you'll be sure to let us know when she'll be "makin' wakes" right?

BTW, I wish I would have thought about a small block, got a fresh 377 over here that work killer in a "B" impellered jet. Oh well, next time...
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: flytime on July 13, 2008, 08:10:29 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 13, 2008, 10:09:23 am
Think I'm gonna bring the Flatty !  8)
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No problem. I'll be more than happy to test that one out too ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 14, 2008, 09:52:31 pm
Hey Tom, I found your Sangers twin:

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/755385436.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/755385436.html)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 14, 2008, 09:57:17 pm
That looks like a Superjet... :-\ Toms is not an SJ
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 14, 2008, 10:15:16 pm
Quote from: GT Jets on July 14, 2008, 09:57:17 pm
That looks like a Superjet... :-\ Toms is not an SJ

I meant to put the the rear was the same. I havent seen to many of the round transom adapters!

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 14, 2008, 10:28:34 pm
Yeah OC, the Superjet is a 19' family boat that were one of the most popular jets of the time, the boat I sold Tom is only a 17' hull, there were quite a few Sanger jets with that distinctive molded through-piece, I didn't mean to sound condescending in my earlier post, but that little Sanger is quite "different" than any other jet I've ever owned...I tried to buy that boat for 7 years, then when I finally got it, I was not in a position to do a damn thing with it :banghead:

My family situation has gotten complicated.

Anyway have fun! ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 15, 2008, 08:15:57 pm
Rut Row Boys  !! its 18" ???  ;D
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heres some pump pic progress from today !

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 15, 2008, 08:31:30 pm
Racking my brain here ???  Whats the signifigance of the 18"?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 15, 2008, 09:06:33 pm
Thats the center line length (minus the pod)  :D

How to Measure Length

A motorboat is measured from end to end along the centerline or parallel to the centerline. The measurement is from the outside of the hull and does not include outboard motors, brackets, other attachments or similar fittings.


Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 15, 2008, 09:44:26 pm
GOTCHA! read the post as "inches" the typo confused the crap out of me, all I had to do was look at the tape measure and coulda figured that out :banghead:
Thanks Tom, (thought it was 17'8" though) :screwy:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 15, 2008, 09:59:29 pm
Dead NUTs 18'  O0
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 15, 2008, 11:02:47 pm
I'll be dipped, that makes it a Superjet and not a sprint, sure thought it was a sprint....
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on July 16, 2008, 06:27:57 am
tom, is that  a bowl extension on that pump? and if so why? inquiring minds want to know ;)
btw, out of all your projects i like this one the most
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 16, 2008, 08:41:04 am
Ralph my buddy Glen scammed the cool Berk (long) droopy ,so as theres very little adjustment in the Calgo we had to :"lengthen" things to make everything come back together ,enter my "mad scientist kid " , he digs around in his "secret locker" of rat holed cool goodies and pulls out that "device" which made the whole shootin match fit !! That little motor BTW should make 400 hp and the jets got a lot of custom internals , if the boat works well and handles etc there make be a Blower motor in the works
I agree re this project ! we really appreceate the opportunity to rig this old race boat it has some very cool and unique features not the least of which is the bottom which is very different than my other 18 Sanger, I have as well as the complete Balsa inlay and full stringers (which I belive are unique to Sanger jets) Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Josh@JBP on July 16, 2008, 10:54:35 am
Quote from: Ralph Brunt on July 16, 2008, 06:27:57 am
tom, is that  a bowl extension on that pump? and if so why? inquiring minds want to know ;)
btw, out of all your projects i like this one the most
Like my Dad said the calgo wasn't very cooperative in the adjustment area due to some "custom" cable ends.   But one of the things that has been fun/challenging at times is trying to come as close to the original set-up as possible.  The nozzle is now withing a fraction of an inch of where it was before and the rear of the engine is less than two inches of where it was before (the difference being the small block).  We were able to get the engine forward by utilizing a Berkeley JA pump shaft and a custom center section for the h-bar.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 16, 2008, 06:14:32 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 16, 2008, 08:41:04 am
Ralph my buddy Glen scammed the cool Berk (long) droopy ,so as theres very little adjustment in the Calgo we had to :"lengthen" things to make everything come back together ,enter my "mad scientist kid " , he digs around in his "secret locker" of rat holed cool goodies and pulls out that "device" which made the whole shootin match fit !! That little motor BTW should make 400 hp and the jets got a lot of custom internals , if the boat works well and handles etc there make be a Blower motor in the works
I agree re this project ! we really appreceate the opportunity to rig this old race boat it has some very cool and unique features not the least of which is the bottom which is very different than my other 18 Sanger, I have as well as the complete Balsa inlay and full stringers (which I belive are unique to Sanger jets) Tom


I told you I would trade you for a "half" snoot (like the one on the Sanger), but that pump looks badass, keeps people wondering >:D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 20, 2008, 06:41:41 pm
Minus a couple hose clamps and some Cav hardware the Sanger is "turn key"
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: FORKEDUP on July 20, 2008, 06:56:59 pm
very nice, when is it getting wet ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 25, 2008, 08:59:39 pm
Even though we got a lot of cool stuff with the Sanger , one half the Cav stuff was missing ,Josh made this Today out of a used prop shaft and a block of Aluminum ,Almost done !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on July 25, 2008, 09:16:20 pm
 Looking good Tom,  But you guys should save some time and just take all that silly cav plate stuff off that boat, and send it to me  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 25, 2008, 09:39:09 pm
Proppy how was Rhondas "steer tube tech help" ?? today ,OK ??
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on July 25, 2008, 10:05:15 pm
  It was good for me !!!    ;D   I'll just ask to talk to her from now on,  maybe you should stay in the office and let her build the boats (this Sanger might be done  >:D ).
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 25, 2008, 10:55:11 pm
and sooooo how that Eliminator comin' funny guy !!  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on July 25, 2008, 11:31:22 pm
 Its getting closer  ;D .

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 I might just make an apperance for the SA trip on Labor day, to do a little Sanger spankin !!! (https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff97%2Fpropless%2Fwhipped.gif&hash=a16b94cce2bbbe91df41a958d8633c8262dc4502) 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 26, 2008, 09:02:37 am
we may have to see about that he he , we might be makin an engine "SWAP" from another of the JBP armada  ,cause the sbc has a elusive oil seep I can live with   T
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on July 26, 2008, 09:13:26 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 25, 2008, 08:59:39 pm
Even though we got a lot of cool stuff with the Sanger , one half the Cav stuff was missing ,Josh made this Today out of a used prop shaft and a block of Aluminum ,Almost done !
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Nice work as always Tommy. Josh is truly a craftsman as a very young age. 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 26, 2008, 09:15:55 am
Tom and Josh, that boat is coming right along, makes me feel good that it went to you, knowing its being treated like it should, keep up the exellent work.

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 26, 2008, 10:05:44 am
Now all we gotta do is find some brave soul (with $$$) that wants to be a circle racer !!!
  (glen pm me you # and addy again so's OJ can get hold of you to drop off the jet drive "booty" ,you da man ! )

What up Jrork-dawg you bout ready to drive that work of art ?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 26, 2008, 10:49:00 am
Tom, I wil take that boat off your hands to go roundy round, you guys offering 120 month payment plans?  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 26, 2008, 09:50:50 pm
maybe??? ...  no money down on approved credit ,with life health and accident , also how bout credit life and extended warrranty and  free maintenance .......
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on July 26, 2008, 09:54:56 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 26, 2008, 09:50:50 pm
maybe??? ...  no money down on approved credit ,with life health and accident , also how bout credit life and extended warrranty and  free maintenance .......
sign me up, but you gotta put a ferd in it. ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 27, 2008, 07:51:27 am
We.ve given the ford s a thought but the "set up" is Chevy  ;D
A litlle more progress from yesterday efforts, plus now we can tow it, SWTG Glenn I don't know how you made it here without having that boat pass you on the freeway  ;)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 28, 2008, 09:57:01 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 26, 2008, 09:50:50 pm
maybe??? ...  no money down on approved credit ,with life health and accident , also how bout credit life and extended warrranty and  free maintenance .......

SOLD! i'll take it!

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on July 26, 2008, 09:54:56 pm
sign me up, but you gotta put a ferd in it. ;D

I'll take it with the Chevy, I actually want it to run! ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on July 28, 2008, 10:29:29 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on July 27, 2008, 07:51:27 am
We.ve given the ford s a thought but the "set up" is Chevy  ;D
A litlle more progress from yesterday efforts, plus now we can tow it, SWTG Glenn I don't know how you made it here without having that boat pass you on the freeway  ;)


No motor, the thing towed really well, Tom the boat knew it was going to a good home, so sort of like being on a mission from the Almighty himself. :-\

So, do you need that loooong snoot? I left your buddy a message today.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 28, 2008, 11:09:07 pm
Thanks Glenn ,Josh "made do" with the "set up" he improvised ,look for the BBC blower motor PDQ (think weve made that decision) and thanks for contacting "OJ"  re the Jet drives ,see ya later this week maybe  ! Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: realHawaiianJet on July 30, 2008, 06:55:36 am
I love the motor plates on this thing!!! O0 They really complement all the other curves and rounded shapes well!!!

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As always great work Tom and Josh!!! I hope to someday meet you in person.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Josh@JBP on July 30, 2008, 11:03:08 am
Quote from: realHawaiianJet on July 30, 2008, 06:55:36 am
I love the motor plates on this thing!!! O0 They really complement all the other curves and rounded shapes well!!!

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As always great work Tom and Josh!!! I hope to someday meet you in person.

Thanks HJ, but we really can take credit for any of the beautiful gold anodized hardware as it came with the boat, but It has given me alot of new ideas. 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: realHawaiianJet on July 30, 2008, 04:28:24 pm
Quote from: Josh@JBP on July 30, 2008, 11:03:08 am
Thanks HJ, but we really can take credit for any of the beautiful gold anodized hardware as it came with the boat, but It has given me alot of new ideas. 

Think brackets like that would hold up to the stress of a BBC? Really thinking about something like that for my sled down the road. Don't have to worry about too many clearance problems.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Josh@JBP on July 30, 2008, 05:43:25 pm
Quote from: realHawaiianJet on July 30, 2008, 04:28:24 pm
Think brackets like that would hold up to the stress of a BBC? Really thinking about something like that for my sled down the road. Don't have to worry about too many clearance problems.

Those are BBC brackets (front Mounts), if you look just behind them you'll see the ugly ass adapter blocks I made to space the SBC out to fit in BBC location.   This boat is BBC ready, and may not be far away from having one ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: realHawaiianJet on July 30, 2008, 07:47:10 pm
Quote from: Josh@JBP on July 30, 2008, 05:43:25 pm
Those are BBC brackets (front Mounts), if you look just behind them you'll see the ugly ass adapter blocks I made to space the SBC out to fit in BBC location.   This boat is BBC ready, and may not be far away from having one ;)

Cool!!! O0
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 30, 2008, 11:44:53 pm
I still want this boat!  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 06, 2008, 09:30:35 pm
Soooo yesterday the UFO became "turn key after cam breakin and some tuning, sweet sounding SBC we think !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 06, 2008, 09:36:08 pm
Today, though (due to an oil pan leak and a few other "factors" ) we made some changes   ;)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 07, 2008, 08:24:35 pm
 ;D ;D ;D Now let me think, what could those changes be???   ;D  Video of that spinny thing doing it's thing please
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 07, 2008, 10:03:09 pm
Change ,Change hmmmmmn I'm startin to sound like a politician?
Hey Jrork what up ?
Glenn 'member when you said your pops thought the this boat needed Zoomies ??
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OMAR this is your next boat???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 07, 2008, 10:17:07 pm
That's what I'm talkin about!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 07, 2008, 11:29:20 pm
They might "let out" a little too much and get us in trouble with the lake cops BUT they sure look cool ! Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: HDriderTH on August 07, 2008, 11:50:07 pm
2sav, that you...j/k
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: HDriderTH on August 08, 2008, 12:32:56 am
...sure diggin those zoomies    ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: AA/Paul on August 08, 2008, 08:29:19 am
1st    Digging the blower pulley guard ;)
2nd   HD baffles in the zoomies help. 2pcs 1/4-20 bolts.Make sure they're safety wired other wise they
        can be launched. :o
3rd    josh  awesome!
4th    I hate breaking cams in!!! Initial fire to 2500rpm no mufflers, hoping nothing goes wrong, or neighbors wanting you to shut it off. It always makes me nervous/exited.

Top shelf as usual with you guys.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 08, 2008, 04:18:42 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 07, 2008, 11:29:20 pm
They might "let out" a little too much and get us in trouble with the lake cops BUT they sure look cool ! Tom

I've seen mufflers for these on my friends flatbottom, they seem to work pretty well... ???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on August 08, 2008, 04:40:25 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 07, 2008, 10:03:09 pm

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OMAR this is your next boat???
What the ...........  :o

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on August 08, 2008, 06:34:28 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 07, 2008, 10:03:09 pm
OMAR this is your next boat!!!

What? Omar is going to be your hired gun? Oh hot damn! Look out CJ class, Beerjet and JBP are coming after you guys, Ming is going to be fun!!!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 08, 2008, 08:16:22 pm
No no no Skippy . I want Omar to think about BUYING this boat  ;D  ;D
re the ZOOMIES , :( they wouldn't clear the gunnels and A$$ end  (from my Buddies Blown gasser)
re Breakin ,this "seasoned" motors from my "big boat" ran 84 and 85 BtoB runs at CFW in the 18' Bahner ,pushed my Eliminator 20' 70 plus for a couple seasons Josh put a 8 fitty dfdp and some other cool "shizzle" on it today we'll finish it up tommorow more pics and a vid to follow, this little motor is a bad ass boat should be a HOOT !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on August 08, 2008, 08:57:48 pm
N/J should be fun  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: HDriderTH on August 08, 2008, 09:30:44 pm
 :o Too fucn much P-dub...hilarious (sp)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on August 08, 2008, 09:39:15 pm
Quote from: HDriderTH on August 08, 2008, 09:30:44 pm
:o Too fucn much P-dub...hilarious (sp)

 ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: HDriderTH on August 08, 2008, 09:43:23 pm
ROTFLMAO   ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 08, 2008, 11:56:12 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 06, 2008, 09:36:08 pm
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 Look at this sh**  >:( >:(, one mention of the MIGHTY BBF showing up for the SA trip and you go and get all crazy  ::) . That's it I'm ordering the nitrous kits tomorrow !!! >:D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 09, 2008, 07:18:49 am
Quote from: propless on August 08, 2008, 11:56:12 pm
Look at this sh**  >:( >:(, one mention of the MIGHTY BBF showing up for the SA trip and you go and get all crazy  ::) . That's it I'm ordering the nitrous kits tomorrow !!! >:D
now thats funny :D you just gunna have to call tom to get the nitrious, hehehehe
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 09, 2008, 08:45:15 am
Quote from: Ralph Brunt on August 09, 2008, 07:18:49 am
now thats funny :D you just gunna have to call tom to get the nitrious, hehehehe

Carefull what you wish for Proppy  ;D ,Josh might just want to make you a bargy deal here !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on August 09, 2008, 08:49:34 am
Cant wait to see that little bugger run !

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 09, 2008, 09:00:41 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 09, 2008, 08:45:15 am
Carefull what you wish for Proppy  ;D ,Josh might just want to make you a bargy deal here !
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proppy, i told you so :D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on August 09, 2008, 09:02:49 am
Hey Tom-

Check your PM's

Oh yeah, bitchin' looking boat! Get your driving suit on for Nost. Jet @ Ming next month!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 09, 2008, 09:53:20 am
Quote from: Ralph Brunt on August 09, 2008, 07:18:49 am
now thats funny :D you just gunna have to call tom to get the nitrious, hehehehe

Quote from: jet boat performance on August 09, 2008, 08:45:15 am
Carefull what you wish for Proppy  ;D ,Josh might just want to make you a bargy deal here !

  :banghead: :banghead: Yea that wouldn't be much of a secret weapon would it.  Ill just have to rely on good old fashioned Ford power  ;D ;D

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on August 09, 2008, 09:02:49 am
Hey Tom-

Check your PM's

Oh yeah, bitchin' looking boat! Get your driving suit on for Nost. Jet @ Ming next month!
I think I see a new owner in this boats future ?   Go Skip racer, Go Skip racer, Go skip racer GOOOO ??
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on August 09, 2008, 10:35:44 am
nope, not me. I have a lot of interest in helping out with the racers/races, but I've got far less interest in racing one.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 09, 2008, 08:26:00 pm
The Sanger CJ 177  is HOME ,brought it to the house to do the final touches (clean up QC on the electrical and plumbing etc ) I'll have some "rum rum" vid for you guys tommorow "lets get ready to RUMBLE"  ;) (once again Glen thanks for the chance to revitalize this Old hot rod) GOOD JOB JOSH ,you the man ,best buddy  ;D!!
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 09, 2008, 08:43:00 pm
That thing came out cool guys, I told you it was a cool little boat....

I just want to say that I think you have done this little boat justice, thanks for not letting it go to a landfill, that would have been a crime.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 09, 2008, 08:46:36 pm
 Looks good Tom.  Great job Josh.  But home is looking a little full, you might need another new carport/boatbay soon  ;D



 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 09, 2008, 09:31:20 pm
Quote from: propless on August 09, 2008, 08:46:36 pm
Looks good Tom.  Great job Josh.  But home is looking a little full, you might need another new carport/boatbay soon  ;D
UHHH hmmm just built one ???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on August 09, 2008, 09:42:24 pm
Looks good Tommy, I am envious of your "stealth" cav plate hardware!  ;D ;D ;D

Get that boy a Lifeline and helmet, Ming is coming................
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Toes on the Nose on August 10, 2008, 09:09:23 am
Get that puppy wet !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 10, 2008, 08:10:10 pm
Quote from: Toes on the Nose on August 10, 2008, 09:09:23 am
Get that puppy wet !!!!!!!
Almost there , just a few more finishing touches , started modifying the old the blower guard, a little touch up ,some brush work "resto" on the lettering, some zip ties etc , made some progress today after my "honey doo's' Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 14, 2008, 08:57:08 pm
Damn near "turn key" Thanks to Josh for the killer resto on the Cav plate setup ! Dad
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: The Chaz on August 15, 2008, 10:09:37 am
That look great, like always O0
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 15, 2008, 08:48:48 pm
Heres some more from today !
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BTW Hey Glenn I think the last owner sucked up Whoopy ?? pulled this out today???  O0
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 16, 2008, 06:31:00 am
Tommy, this boat/thread is one of my favorites you've had.  That boat is bitchin and Josh & you have done a great job bringing that back to life.  Congrats
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 16, 2008, 06:38:19 am
Quote from: jrork on August 16, 2008, 06:31:00 am
Tommy, this boat/thread is one of my favorites you've had.  That boat is bitchin and Josh & you have done a great job bringing that back to life.  Congrats
x2 an A+, just sitting back enjoying the craftsmen work their trade ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 16, 2008, 08:24:12 am
Thanks guys ,should actually be "done" (thats a relative term  ;D) today , it starts ,runs and we have little else to do to it sans run it on water and wet test ,more to follow !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 16, 2008, 08:49:07 pm
The guy that rigged this boat (or his pinstiper) had way to much time on his hands  ;D Trimming and fitting the loader we chose today ,
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and return spings for the cav plates ...
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 17, 2008, 09:01:29 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 16, 2008, 08:49:07 pm
The guy that rigged this boat (or his pinstiper) had way to much time on his hands  ;D Trimming and fitting the loader we chose today ,
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and return spings for the cav plates ...
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Batchin it today so I spent some more time on the Sanger !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 17, 2008, 11:37:29 pm
Tom, how about a good shot of the bottom of that beast.  Looking at the shots of the floor it looks like it has some interesting shapes to it   ???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 17, 2008, 11:54:00 pm
Hey JBP, you guys are making me feel very stupid for selling her, very nice work fella's.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 18, 2008, 12:39:42 am
 Yea they always make it look so easy,  just bolt this there and do that and walla a perfect boat  :banghead: :banghead: .   I know mine aint that way  :mad: .   Of course it might have something to do with the fact that I don't know what I'm doing  :sly:  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 78CoLe on August 18, 2008, 09:24:33 pm
what type of loader is that
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 19, 2008, 10:48:05 am
Jeremy ,Its an Older GTH marine cast unit they called a  "top loader" (similar in design to one of the  White lightning's ) We bought  it last year to "pattern" it ,modified it and will run it in this boat to test Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 20, 2008, 09:13:29 pm
Just had to add a RED Distributor cap!  ;D
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and now it is "turn key" wooo hooo ? The UFO 2 lives !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 20, 2008, 09:16:38 pm
Now how is one to go to sleep with a woody such as this? Way cool... :sly:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 20, 2008, 09:35:54 pm
Quote from: GT Jets on August 20, 2008, 09:16:38 pm
go to sleep with a woody such as this?

Uh, I'm glad to hear you like it but I for one would prefer if you didn't mention to the rest of us when you have a "woody"..... ;D

Looks and sounds bitchin Tommy.  Congrats
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 21, 2008, 07:56:46 am
Quote from: GT Jets on August 20, 2008, 09:16:38 pm
Now how is one to go to sleep with a woody such as this? Way cool... :sly:

Glen maybe sleep on your side and use it as a "kickstand" ???

Thanks John !!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 21, 2008, 09:41:33 pm
Dragged it out tonite ,will run on the "hose" tommorow !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: AA/Paul on August 22, 2008, 07:56:06 am
I'm diggin the paint on the UFO  soon to be WFO.
Is the vertical brace for the steering? ( stringer to dash )
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 22, 2008, 08:11:05 am
Paul Thought that with that much steering column and that much leverage on the small base of the Calgo post it needed something ,it stiffened the dash a lot.  After Long Beach I  re -realized how fragile these old boats could be  Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: AA/Paul on August 22, 2008, 08:59:21 am
That was scary!!!
Tom I have not forgot.Thanx.
The curved motormounts...if ya need some let me know Dim. to stringer. I already have programs for BBC and SBC race car motor plates. It would be easy to do.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 22, 2008, 09:07:21 am
I would look into a different method of strengthening the dash. That setup would make me REAL nervous. The last thing you want is getting tangled up in hardware when being pitched from the boat. Even a stringer mount cav plate handle makes me nervous....or even a place diverter handle (as long as they are) between the legs? forget it!  :o

dont get me wrong, i like the ingenuity, but the safety aspect should be looked at as well.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: MADSKILLZ on August 22, 2008, 09:22:25 am
If my boat had a steering brace like that I would have broke my leg when I flew out of the boat in Long Beach.

Not a good idea IMO.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 22, 2008, 10:15:30 am
Appreciate the advise guys Thanks Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 22, 2008, 08:59:40 pm
OK then ,we modified the dash brace Guys what do ya think now !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on August 22, 2008, 09:22:47 pm
Mucho better, I figured you would just flip it. Is that foot throttle really bolted through the floor? I would expect a stringer mount.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 23, 2008, 08:45:01 am
Quote from: 76 Bonneville on August 22, 2008, 09:22:47 pm
Mucho better, I figured you would just flip it. Is that foot throttle really bolted through the floor? I would expect a stringer mount.
Ron ,yes the Pedal (and the "halon") are thru bolted with countersunk stnls screws , not uncommon for some older boats , my Schiada was done the same way (talk about crowded cockpits)  ;D
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: MADSKILLZ on August 23, 2008, 10:56:19 am
That looks better!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 23, 2008, 11:59:34 am
Thanks CJ now I'm thinking a Bicycle handle  bar pad delio for a sudden decel nut protector  :screwy:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 24, 2008, 08:04:31 pm
Sooooo ....Me and Ro  left at 9:30 back at 12:30 (45 min to SA ) ,Boat starts runs,leaves hard (leaks at the Calgo thru hulls) ,is definately a "Bad A$$", Josh did a killer job up on the "tune up" and install BUT it porpoise's like a MAD DOG (way too much UP and suspect some "Rocker" ) Rhonda said it was almost embarassing  :o Boat wants to run  "Balls out" doesn't want to be a lake boat ,one lap around the lake and back home to get the Camper and gear ready for next week  SA trip. Josh's (and Grampa) got a new baby comin' Tues AM gonna try for a local "Fishing Lake blast" mid week Otherwise gonna bring the Schiada or the Cruiser or maybe the Miller (Rhonda says I cant bring a V-drive  "cause its Socal JET boats!!) !  >:( over and out !
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 24, 2008, 08:59:32 pm
The smile on my face was evident while seeing this "little boat that can" on the water again, both my wife and my daughter noticed the expression on my face....

Thanks for the post fella's, nice job.


Tom, lemme know if there are any "rockdodger parts" you want to borrow to see if we can't figure out what she needs to succeed.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 25, 2008, 01:00:24 am
 WOW, that Sanger looks good on the water Tom !!  Very nice job saving another nice boat from the landfill (hang your head in shame GT for thinking that ) !!  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 25, 2008, 02:12:47 am
great job guys, did it still do it when you where riding the plates ???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 25, 2008, 09:03:33 am
Ralph ,suspect your headed for Bass lake by now but yes Had serious down pedal and still looked like frikken Flipper  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 26, 2008, 10:01:16 pm
Me and Josh couldn't stand it ,threw on a used diverter and went out to the "fishin lake" for test and tune where we under went a Qagga muscle "douche" some undeserved "harrasment" and "Race boat profiling" from the Prick Rangers (called the board of supervisors today to complain ) but actually got some "seat time" ,the boat definatley wants "down" ,we'll remove the droop this week for a straight snoot  ,maybe bring it this weekend ,maybe the Flatty not sure Having fun Now

BTW Congrats to my "youngin" and his wife today  baby girl !!  God I hope shes a boater  ;D
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Brooklyn
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: crewchief22 on August 26, 2008, 10:27:10 pm
Congrats on the new Jet Boat Performance team member  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 26, 2008, 10:30:59 pm
Congratulations!, How cool is that?, a new family member and boating in the same day, a charmed life I tell you!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 26, 2008, 11:02:53 pm
Quote from: GT Jets on August 26, 2008, 10:30:59 pm
Congratulations!, How cool is that?, a new family member and boating in the same day, a charmed life I tell you!
Thanks Crewchief  !!
Gt NO time to waste  ;),the worst day boating beats the best day working Me Rhonda and Josh are truly Blessed to do what we do fo a living (and get Paid) HUGE Thanks to all our friends and loyal customers !!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on August 26, 2008, 11:54:40 pm
Congratulations on the new addition !!  ;D

 Tom, your going to need more boats if that kid (Josh) keeps this up  :sly:

Quote from: jet boat performance on August 26, 2008, 10:01:16 pm
BTW Congrats to my "youngin" and his wife today  baby girl !!  God I hope shes a boater  ;D

 Josh, You have to hurry (before the little one sets up fully), but I heard if you plug the nose and blow hard into the mouth sometimes the hardware will pop out  ;D >:D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 04, 2008, 08:55:17 pm
A few "changes" to the Sanger (lost the snoot and added a pump brace) for some more "wet test" and tune and maybe if were lucky another Quagga muscle inspection ! ( oh and It had to have a reverse too)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 06, 2008, 09:02:58 pm
Went to the fishin lake today, made some progress ,got a nice ride while Josh drove some  ;D
Also got another Quagga bow cable delio ??? more Test and tune tommorow with Rhonda driving  :o
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 07, 2008, 09:59:49 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 26, 2008, 10:01:16 pm

Brooklyn
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Aw Pops, we are all so happy for you guys......  Congrats to all of you.......
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 07, 2008, 12:23:10 pm
whats with the quagga bow dealio
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 07, 2008, 12:48:14 pm
Quote from: Ralph Brunt on September 07, 2008, 12:23:10 pm
whats with the quagga bow dealio

They put a cable on the boat to the trailer that shows the boat had not been off the trailer so it will not need reinspection for that particular lake. Kinda cheesey, but whatever...I think we should just all build a boat bad enough that is scares the mussels into complete extermination >:D

Think about it, we never had the mussel problem before the sound restrictions............Just saying ::)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 08, 2008, 08:19:36 am
Ralph the cable is just as Glenn described ,as long as you dont go to another lake or ?? you don't have to be re-cleaned '

RE the Sanger  Rhonda and I went to SA yesterday with Hondo Hal hung with a loose knit new local group that call themselves " Outlaw boaters"  The Sanger now quickly finds 60+ with part throttle ;D but still sets up "porpious" that requires down pedal to correct (back to the drawing board) I did turn the boat at speed and was Hella impressed ,never felt like it would slip out or spin

On another note V-drive Dennis showed up with his Hondo T deck "play boat" Blown BBC after twisting my arm  ;) He gave me a vest and 2 gals of fuel , showed me how to work the air bottle control and new hydraulic cav set up said..."go drive it" made two 1/4 mile passes and came back with a huge smile (tattle tale says 8100, est100 +) Definatley one of the high points of my day

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GlassCutter on September 08, 2008, 09:56:14 am
8100?  RPM's?  :o   

That must have been music to the ears
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 08, 2008, 11:46:40 am
Quote from: GlassCutter on September 08, 2008, 09:56:14 am
8100?  RPM's?  :o   

That must have been music to the ears

Boy howdy ;) ,now I'd love to drive his other boat ....
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 08, 2008, 07:54:11 pm
8100 RPM >:D Bet that swelling took a while to go down.... :sly:

Hey Tommy, if I send you a loader for the Sanger would you try it?  I think the pump is over loading, two questions though.
1. Does the porpoise go away if you nail the gas?

2. Does the porpoise come in quick, or slowly and predictably?


If it comes in slowly and predictably, the extended pump fins could be creating a "low pressure" area under the rear of the boat causing the boat to "teeter totter" on the center point of the hull, it will not go away unless you stand on it, pulling the boat back down in the water giving it something to climb, or faking a hook with some ride plate adjustment, which I hate doing.

I think the engine being forward accentuates this horribly. The loader I want you to try is a plate type and was run on a River runner and cured this exact symptom. You might even have one in those rafters of yours, it needs to be a plate type loader and not very aggressive, this will "bypass" a lot of water at speed and keep the pressure stable under the bottom of the intake, it may take away a little of the out of hole performance (can you say inducer?), but would be worth it in the long run I think.

let me know if you want to give it a whirl (no puhn intended).

Don't be afraid to tell me I'm full of crap though too, its been a while.

Once loaded this thing would work great, it will probably turn hard enough to scare you. >:D

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 11, 2008, 08:45:29 pm
Glenn appreciate the input  I think were on the right track .. this is the "back to the drawing board" measure we took and just for the FYI value this is the bottom were dealing with ,clearly this boat was designed to hual ass and turn left more after the T&T tommorow Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on September 11, 2008, 09:17:12 pm
 Looks like your trying to tame a wild animal there Tom.   Its a race boat hull , it only needs to have 2 throttle settings (on and off), stop trying to turn it into a cruiser .   :screwy:

 JK ,  You know I'm watching and learning from this project, and you know why I need to.  Crazy rocker bottom boats   :banghead: .
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 11, 2008, 09:22:51 pm
Quote from: propless on September 11, 2008, 09:17:12 pm
Looks like your trying to tame a wild animal there Tom.   Its a race boat hull , it only needs to have 2 throttle settings (on and off), stop trying to turn it into a cruiser .   :screwy:

 JK ,  You know I'm watching and learning from this project, and you know why I need to.  Crazy rocker bottom boats   :banghead: .

Trying to put the bareback Pony pad on the wild mustang  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 12, 2008, 10:41:55 pm
WHOOO HOOOO   ;D Huge progress today ! Pics Vid and results tommorow  Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: realHawaiianJet on September 12, 2008, 11:04:31 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on September 12, 2008, 10:41:55 pm
WHOOO HOOOO   ;D Huge progress today ! Pics Vid and results tommorow  Tom

I can't wait!!!!!!!!! ;D I'm guessing the porpoise is gone, or at least reduced. O0
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 13, 2008, 10:08:49 am
We removed all the "extentions" to bring the jet back (no droop no Bowl extension hard ware) installed the standard Berk nozzle adaptor and removed the "Loader" (installed) a rock grate for now esentially putting the boat/jet to stock with the exception of a 3* up wedge and the place diverter The boat was very different still carries the bow a little high, turns like its on train tracks and leaves like a Flatty with minimul bow rise (mash the down pedal ,hammer the throttle) ;D very enjoyable trip. "A" impeller alows minimum plane speed of about 2700, tryed to keep within the lake speed limit  ;) 85% or better of the "Dolphin" action is gone . Still requires "down pedal" to settle out typical porpoise that begins after a wake crossing etc ,dont belive we had the boat much past 55 , and yes we have no quaggas I'm happy to report more to follow !

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 13, 2008, 10:18:43 am
Wish my boat turned like that. :o... way better fella's.

Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: realHawaiianJet on September 13, 2008, 10:38:35 am
Very nice!!!!! O0

Sounds like you need a better lake to test the boat on. ;) With all the speed limits, Quagga muscles, and rough water bs. :banghead:


So, do you think you can get rid of the rest of the porpoise, or are you just going to leave it at that?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on September 13, 2008, 10:45:38 am
Not that Jim Rich's boat was a gem or anything but he always had to wedge his droop down . Cant remember how much though .

On a side note , lots of the others are not running anything as far as wedge goes . Bowl/adapter/nozzle thats it . Great job too .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on September 13, 2008, 12:22:40 pm
Just for reference...... on Jim's boat we can cruise 65-70 mph, over wakes, turns, weird river spots, and it has no trouble. And that's usually with the diverter up a few notches.

Just saying the two boats with two different attributes probably need two different set ups
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on September 13, 2008, 12:26:25 pm
Quote from: pw_Tony on September 13, 2008, 12:22:40 pm
Just for reference...... on Jim's boat we can cruise 65-70 mph, over wakes, turns, weird river spots, and it has no trouble. And that's usually with the diverter up a few notches.

Just saying the two boats with two different attributes probably need two different set ups
Can you tell me what the entire set up consist of to reference where 2 notches is .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on September 13, 2008, 12:34:10 pm
Quote from: beerjet on September 13, 2008, 12:26:25 pm
Can you tell me what the entire set up consist of to reference where 2 notches is .

-beerjet-

Droop with a 2 degree down wedge. Don't know exactly where the diverter is set.

I know I tried the same set up on my Hondo at first, it didn't like it, it would drag the diverter to hard at down positions, so it worked better with the upwedge....
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 14, 2008, 09:35:37 am
Quote from: pw_Tony on September 13, 2008, 12:22:40 pm
Just for reference...... on Jim's boat we can cruise 65-70 mph, over wakes, turns, weird river spots, and it has no trouble. And that's usually with the diverter up a few notches.

Just saying the two boats with two different attributes probably need two different set ups

Your right Tony the boats are indeed similar but very different ,the UFO is a full stringer boat ,the bottom had been "cut out" and deepened nearly the entire length of the keel with added rocker (see photo) Jim and I talked about this at LB and compared notes ,I also compared it to my yellow  SJ alot of the issues I've been dealing with are as you might imagine ,directly related to that bottom mod I think we have a good handle on it now and I'm really pleased with the boat and belive it has a solid future and will be  competetive  Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on October 05, 2008, 07:17:58 pm
Went late (rain possiblility) to Classic V-drives @SA ,took the UFO instead of the Flatty (after 4 hrs of polishing  ;D ) Anyhow me and GTjets (Glenn) went for a hot lap , sds good ,leaves hard ,hauls ass ,turns hard But....  still got some porpoise to work out ,moving the motor back next  Check it out ,were getting there , Thanks for the help Glenn (he's the tall one  ;) )! Tom
ps ,yeah gotta fix the intro date  ;)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: outlaw hallett on October 05, 2008, 09:47:40 pm
looking good tom, how fast is she runnin? :sly:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on October 05, 2008, 11:52:56 pm
Quote from: outlaw hallett on October 05, 2008, 09:47:40 pm
looking good tom, how fast is she runnin? :sly:

There's a lot left on the table thats for sure....it sort of forces you to get out of the throttle... :o

Hey Tom, thanks for the ride, had a good time this W/E, even though it was mellow with the weather and all, got out of the yardwork though ;D

See you soon...

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on October 06, 2008, 08:04:57 am
OH ,best run with me and Glen was 64.5 ,me alone 68.3 boat should run 75 to 80 without a struggle but I gotta to get it to "settle" It has 13" of drive line which is where the rigger set it I'm gonna move it back to see if I can get it to rock back and carry the bow like Glen said   Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: flytime on October 06, 2008, 08:39:56 am
Looks like fun Tom. Good job. The weather looked great. Glad you guys had a good time.

Bob
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: SnoC653 on October 24, 2008, 08:39:56 am
Tom could you PM me a ball park figure on what it would cost to have a cav plate pedal system like this made for an eliminator like propless has?  Wouldn't need the plates just everything else.  Or should I be looking into one of those hydraulic setups?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on October 24, 2008, 09:04:24 am
No prices without pictures.   ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: SnoC653 on October 24, 2008, 09:18:19 pm
Quote from: propless on October 24, 2008, 09:04:24 am
No prices without pictures.   ;D

Why would you want to see pictures?  Are you planning to run adjustable plates and turn left?  I just want to see yours run so I will know what to do or not do ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: propless on October 24, 2008, 11:29:35 pm
Quote from: SnoC653 on October 24, 2008, 09:18:19 pm
Why would you want to see pictures?  Are you planning to run adjustable plates and turn left?  I just want to see yours run so I will know what to do or not do ;)

 It would be nice to see another one of these old survivors.  Did you see the one for sale over on PB ? 

 I would like to upgrade mine to the adjustable plates.  I think it would make it a better all around boat. 

 I'd like to see mine run too, I'm about sick of polishing parts  :banghead: :banghead:

 Sorry for the thread jack Tom.   ;) ;D

 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 29, 2009, 08:17:33 pm
This one has found a new home a bit to the north of where it is now.  Picking it up in a week or so......... ;D

Thanks Tommy
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on March 29, 2009, 08:20:16 pm
Quote from: jrork on March 29, 2009, 08:17:33 pm
This one has found a new home a bit to the north of where it is now.  Picking it up in a week or so......... ;D

Thanks Tommy

Thats awsome John!  congrats bro!  It's a cool little boat. Let me know when you come through, you have to drive right by me  ;)

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 30, 2009, 04:19:32 am
Thanks Glenn.  PM or email me your addy and we'll be sure to swing thru........

Thanks again Tommy for hooking a brutha up.......... You guys are the best
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 09, 2009, 02:48:16 pm
Well, we're on I-5 trying to get home before the snow they're predicting at home hits.

Many thanks to Tommy and Josh. The boat looks bitchin. 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on April 09, 2009, 04:49:24 pm
John and Ian,

Thank you guys again for the delivery! When we're all floatin' in October, beer's on me! Drive safe.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on April 09, 2009, 08:01:36 pm
Good to see you to Grandpa and Good to finally meet Ian , thanks for the "transport action" too my Wash customers will be Stoked ! Specially "B" , Glad to know you'all are making good progress and got out to see Skip Ian congrats on the UFO ! Tommmy and Josh
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: HDriderTH on April 09, 2009, 08:45:18 pm
Shit, it' looks like me and Tom could be brothers. Same hairline, big brush.......
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 09, 2009, 10:11:33 pm
Thanks guys. Unfortunately we just ran into snow by Weed. Gonna try to get off this hill and call it quits at Yreka. Not as far as we hoped for.

Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on April 09, 2009, 10:13:58 pm
Quote from: HDriderTH on April 09, 2009, 08:45:18 pm
Shit, it' looks like me and Tom could be brothers. Same hairline, big brush.......

 ;) 18 @ heart Bro , that thin spot on top is a solar collector for a sex machine !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: realHawaiianJet on April 10, 2009, 08:43:54 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on April 09, 2009, 10:13:58 pm
;) 18 @ heart Bro , that thin spot on top is a solar collector for a sex machine !

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D

Too frickin' funny Tom!!!!! Thanks for brightening up my day. :)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on April 10, 2009, 09:29:46 am
Quote from: jrork on April 09, 2009, 10:11:33 pm
Thanks guys. Unfortunately we just ran into snow by Weed. Gonna try to get off this hill and call it quits at Yreka. Not as far as we hoped for.



Be safe guys!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: HDriderTH on April 10, 2009, 09:41:59 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on April 09, 2009, 10:13:58 pm
;) 18 @ heart Bro , that thin spot on top is a solar collector for a sex machine !


Hmmmm, I just thot it was from having the ponytail too tight for so many years. Kinda like the pot belly, I just tell people it's all relaxed peter. I'm really thin when i get a hard on.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: spectra 81 on April 10, 2009, 10:32:38 pm
IN THE SAME BOAT SO TO SPEAK WITH THE HAIRLINE BUT GOD ONLY GAVE US SO MANY HORMONES AND IF YOU OTHER GUYS WANT TO WASTE EM ON HAIR.OLD SAYING ALWAYS TRUE
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 11, 2009, 12:29:26 pm
Pulled in last night after dropping off a bench seat for Skip in Salem and then some parts for Brittney from Tommy.  Kevin/Keith (can't remember what his name is) just left with the seats Tommy.  Very happy with the seats.

Ian's already touched a few spots with some compound and the colors are BADASS!!!!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 11, 2009, 08:20:16 pm
just a few teaser shots for the day...... :)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on April 11, 2009, 08:24:05 pm
Damn John! That old gel sure cleaned up nice! Good job, oh yeah, THANK YOU again for the seat delivery.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 11, 2009, 08:36:13 pm
Quote from: Luckie Stiff on April 11, 2009, 08:24:05 pm
Damn John! That old gel sure cleaned up nice! Good job, oh yeah, THANK YOU again for the seat delivery.

Haha, This is actually Ian posting on the old mans account since i have yet to make my own. The gel definatly is coming back. I have about 3 or 4 hours on the deck so far. Still gotta use some real polish. thats a heavy cut, final cut, and cleaner. It really does look way better though! It was nice to meet you the other day! Hopefully we can take the boats down south to go boating in the river with all you guys!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on April 11, 2009, 08:41:58 pm
John, I have a huge smile on my face right now..and no it's not gas (this time, LOL). I am so glad the boat found it's way to you guys, I can't wait to see what is in store for that little hotrod. I am sorry I missed you guys on the way up, I will make it a point if I make it up that way to get in touch with you. Check this out, this why I could not get in touch with you, it was crazy....Like being in a third world country for a day...

 http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12106301?source=most_emailed

Take care of my girl.  ;)

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on April 11, 2009, 08:57:53 pm
Wow....I think a 100k reward will help find the person or persons! 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on April 11, 2009, 09:05:46 pm
Lookin good boys ! Nice work ! Tom
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 12, 2009, 07:13:48 am
Brad, get this punk kid off my account.  Hard to say what insulting things he's liable to say and tarnish my impecable reputation!!! ;D

I'll admit, he's making that boat really shine.  I can only imagine what it looked like when you first saw it Glen. The colors are incredible.  The driveway was like grand central station yesterday with all sorts of friends topping by and checking the boat out and everyone (even ones that dont know what a jetboat is) loved it.

He still needs to freshen up my old 468 that served as my mule motor for the Brendela and then he'll be on the water soon......
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on April 19, 2009, 06:54:28 am
Okay, last time I'm gonna post up a pic on this thread.  He can start his own but Glenn and Tommy, you can't believe what he's managed to do with this old girl.

He went back at it yesterday and color sanded it throughout with 2000 grit, and then buffed it out again with a number of different products and the thing looks like a million bucks.

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Founds some more cool stuff yesterday too.  The bottom of the trailer has signed "UFO II" on it as well.  And all the wire is braided together and follows the angles with pefect 90 degree bends.  

Somebody spent a ton of time on this thing back in the day......... Thanks again guys and we'll do you proud I promise.


He's just about done with he truck and once done we're gonna roll that out and put the Sanger in the shop with my boat so it can enjoy some heat instead of setting in the cold ass RV port.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on July 05, 2009, 05:08:40 pm
Motor is almost together.  We're dipping into my stash of spare parts and have a nice balanced 468", Hyd flat, 049's with big SS valves.  Shooting for the end of July to have a motor in the boat and running. 

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 05, 2009, 05:17:21 pm
Jealous!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on July 05, 2009, 06:01:57 pm
Quote from: OC2Vegas on July 05, 2009, 05:17:21 pm
Jealous!

No need.  It's a bunch of parts that I've just had sitting here.  He had a local go fast shop flail at the heads and they turned out really cool.    There's not one of us that wouldnt love to help out a youngen to get them hooked on this hobby and there's not much more in life I like better than hanging out with my son in the shop..... :thumbup:

Given that, I'm thrilled............ ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on July 05, 2009, 06:04:32 pm
Other then the going roundy round, I love that hull and wanted that before Tom rebuilt it. You and Jr will do it proud!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on July 05, 2009, 08:19:21 pm
Quote from: OC2Vegas on July 05, 2009, 06:04:32 pm
Other then the going roundy round, I love that hull and wanted that before Tom rebuilt it. You and Jr will do it proud!
I'm with you.
Roundy rounder or not , that is one sexy toy.
You guys will do great .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on July 06, 2009, 04:51:42 pm
Thanks guys.  I won't lied, this boat of his turns my crank.  It's got some history and gobs of style.  I can't wait to see it on the water..

Thanks again for all the advice and friendship when I was putting my boat together and I look forward to him receiving some great advice as he builds his as well. 

Take care..........john
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on July 31, 2009, 01:52:39 pm
ARGH!!!!!   Got the motor assembled and went to bolt the front plates on to set it in the boat and the plates hit the fuel pump...... :banghead:


Tommy, did you run a electric pump on this thing when you had it??


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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on July 31, 2009, 08:47:04 pm
Yes unforkinatley Sorry Bro !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 01, 2009, 05:36:34 am
No worries Tommy.  We were just trying to build this mostly out of my spare parts.  He'll just have to spring for an electric.  Take care of yourself and say hi to the gang for us...
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: MORBEER on August 01, 2009, 10:18:06 am
Does anyone know if that boat spent a lot of time at echo lodge?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 01, 2009, 11:09:23 am
Quote from: MORBEER on August 01, 2009, 10:18:06 am
Does anyone know if that boat spent a lot of time at echo lodge?

Definately not in the last 10-11 years...It was in a storage facility until 1999 incomplete, then behind a warehouse until I picked it up...

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: MORBEER on August 01, 2009, 03:42:36 pm
it looks very familliar!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: IRRebel on August 02, 2009, 11:28:28 pm
Quote from: MORBEER on August 01, 2009, 03:42:36 pm
it looks very familliar!

I get that a lot too!  :screwy:

Really! Had a guy at Big River tell me he sees my boat all the time!

Ray
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 03, 2009, 09:17:12 pm
Quote from: MORBEER on August 01, 2009, 10:18:06 am
Does anyone know if that boat spent a lot of time at echo lodge?

Mobeer are you thinkin the Sanger was having a "Sordid affair" at the lodge  ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: MORBEER on August 03, 2009, 09:24:34 pm
possibly?  I just remember a boat that looked an awful lot like that also named "UFO"

maybe the sanger is a tramp?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 03, 2009, 09:27:00 pm
Quote from: MORBEER on August 03, 2009, 09:24:34 pm
possibly?  I just remember a boat that looked an awful lot like that also named "UFO"

maybe the sanger is a tramp?

HE HE HE !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: MORBEER on August 03, 2009, 09:34:30 pm
It looks awsome Tom!! ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: beerjet on August 03, 2009, 09:55:43 pm
Quote from: MORBEER on August 03, 2009, 09:24:34 pm
possibly?  I just remember a boat that looked an awful lot like that also named "UFO"

maybe the sanger is a tramp?
Doesnt this boat say "UFO II" on the side? 
:sly:

Implying that at some point there would ba a "UFO I"
 :sly:

Thought I'd throw that out there to get you guys scratching yer balds spots and receding hair lines.

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 04, 2009, 06:25:34 am
Quote from: beerjet on August 03, 2009, 09:55:43 pm
Doesnt this boat say "UFO II" on the side? 
:sly:

Implying that at some point there would ba a "UFO I"
 :sly:

Thought I'd throw that out there to get you guys scratching yer balds spots and receding hair lines.

-beerjet-


MMMMMM, you might be on to something there my friend.  So the search continues........


Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 05, 2009, 05:30:16 am
So the motor is in and he's been flying at this thing trying to make the big Labor Day bash up here.  With a little luck, he may make it.

He's fabbed everything up and now has busted it back down to take some parts to the powder coater. 

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 06, 2009, 07:11:50 am
Ian made some aluminum rails that will ride in front of the Cav plate cross bar to mount the MSD and fuel pump/regulator.

He had that powercoated by Austin (Wajetboy online) and it looks bitchin!!!

Since the red blocks didnt really match very well with the reds in the paint, he just had those coated as well.   The color is Harley Black Pearl and it's beautiful!!!!!   If somebody needs something coated, let me know and you can see what Austins prices are compared to down south.  Dont know if it would save you folks something or not but he sure did a great job.


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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: FORKEDUP on August 06, 2009, 07:49:20 am
boat is lookin bitchen, you should be proud of what he is accomplishing and the good times in store for the tow of you :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 06, 2009, 10:02:59 am
Thanks FU. There's no way I could ever describe how proud I am of this kid. He works hard, keeps his nose clean and is genuinely a good young man. Now how he turned out like that can only be attributable to having lived with me serving as a bad example and realizing he did want to turn out like that!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 06, 2009, 08:31:16 pm
HMMMMM sound like your talkin about my kid Too !  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 06, 2009, 10:16:38 pm
Tonight we got the rails a little bit closer to finished. Waiting on a few fitings to finish up the fuel lines. After that its time to do some wiring... yuck! Cant wait to get this thing into the water! Thanks for all the kind words, it just adds to the motivation!
Ian
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 07, 2009, 08:29:31 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 06, 2009, 08:31:16 pm
HMMMMM sound like your talkin about my kid Too !  :thumbup:

Yah Tommy, we've been pretty lucky havent we?  Of course, Rhonda and Jan might have had something to do with it too..... ::)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 07, 2009, 08:25:37 pm
Quote from: jrork on August 07, 2009, 08:29:31 am
Yah Tommy, we've been pretty lucky havent we?  Of course, Rhonda and Jan might have had something to do with it too..... ::)

Especially when she hears about the Harley I've been eyeing  ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 08, 2009, 09:17:45 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 07, 2009, 08:25:37 pm
Especially when she hears about the Harley I've been eyeing  ;)

yur beer belly ain't big enough gramps....  Now me on the other hand has a body made for it....... ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 14, 2009, 08:17:16 am
We're close.  Just need to fab up some water and one water line and drop the dizzy in and she's ready to light.  The punkass kid did a really nice and clean job wiring it up. 

Pics soon
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on August 14, 2009, 09:20:04 am
Looking good John & Ian, should be able to make the big Labor Day festival this year, no? The only thing I don't like is the positioning of the MSD box, I'm thinking you're gonna shake it to death.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 14, 2009, 09:27:47 am
John tell Ian the parts will go today Like the work ! Very pleased to seee the progress Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on August 14, 2009, 10:16:58 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 14, 2009, 09:27:47 am
John tell Ian the parts will go today Like the work ! Very pleased to seee the progress Tom
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Tom- I was simply trying to save John & Ian some headaches when I made the comment about the MSD location.  Is it really necessary to post that picture up? If you're trying to prove me as ignorant or wrong, then do it in a factual stated argument, posting up that pic is the equivalent of sticking your tongue out at me.  I know people run MSD boxes in that spot all the time, I also know more than 1 that's had it shaken to death from the vibration.

Out
Skip
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 14, 2009, 10:52:35 am
No worries guys.  This is an MSD out of my spare parts bin so the cost is nuthin and I have a set of rubber isolators in the bin as well.  They might help and if it does take a crap......we can find a new spot. No biggee, just trying to get it to the big Labor Day bash.  We'll have all winter to fine tune and revise as needed.

Thanks Tommy..........congrats again (even though you are ahead of me)...
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 14, 2009, 10:29:14 pm
PTO is on the "Brown dog to young  Ian , can't wait to see the UFO scootin cross the water Good to talk this morning ! Take care of that little one !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 15, 2009, 08:24:50 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 14, 2009, 10:29:14 pm
PTO is on the "Brown dog to young  Ian , can't wait to see the UFO scootin cross the water Good to talk this morning ! Take care of that little one !

Thanks again Tommy.  Lil guy came back from the doc with dueling ear infections and a flareup of his asthma.  Poor lil guy.......


Here's a quote from Ian on the local board up here.    Thanks again for everything...

Quote from: Gonnashow";p="30607
Here is my update for the day..... currently gapping the spark plugs and going over all the fittings to make sure they are all tight! That must meen that I'm close to making VROOM VROOM noises!! YAHOOOO!
Again thank you to EVERYONE who has helped me collect parts for this build. 6 months ago buying the parts to put the boat together wouldnt have been an issue. Then the downhill spiral at work hit hard. The boat would not be at the point that it is right now without the help of you guys (and my dad with a garage full of boat stuff!) I cant wait to get the boat out on the water with you people! FINALLY!

Thanks, Ian
I hope you all like pictures as much as i do!
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 15, 2009, 08:45:11 am
VERY NICE !  Great Job Ian .......... its come a long way From this ....
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 16, 2009, 09:59:20 am
Yah, it sure has Tommy.  Without you and Josh finishing this old girl up like you did, it probably would never have come back.  The Cav stuff Josh built it too damn cool!!! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 21, 2009, 06:15:51 pm
It's alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooohoooooooo ;D ;D ;D ;D  New motor lit with zero drama.   
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 21, 2009, 07:11:04 pm
And for the record for all to see............. I love my son :thumbup:  Such a fine young man!!!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 21, 2009, 09:04:33 pm
Quote from: jrork on August 21, 2009, 07:11:04 pm
And for the record for all to see............. I love my son :thumbup:  Such a fine young man!!!

Great Post DAD !! Congratulations (on the boat and the son! )
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GlassCutter on August 21, 2009, 09:33:57 pm
That boat does look pretty bitchen all finished up.  Great job guys.     And that cav stuff is over the top.   Props to everybody involved !

That boat will look good in Parker in month or two   (hint hint).
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 25, 2009, 05:44:55 pm
Thanks guys and a big thank you to JBP again for helping us out on some goodies and the great service.   
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 29, 2009, 03:47:46 pm
We threw the boat in the water for the first time today to make sure it floats before our big event next weekend. Didnt want to tow it all that way only to have it not run.

The old girl lit at the touch of the switch.  It was a fun (and proud) moment to watch my son hit the water with his own ride bought and paid for by his hard work. 

It took him a while to figure the ride/cavplate/diverter setup but soon began to get a better understanding of it and made it work really well.

He got it to 5200 rpm and it was very happy at that speed and rode great with just a touch of down pedal once in awhile.

Many thanks to everyone up here and on this site for the help and encouragement. Also gotta send my luv again to Rhonda, Josh and even Tommy for all the help.............john

Here's his post...

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First off, let me say thank you to all of you guys for helping me get this damn thing done... one week before mardon! It is much appreciated. The boat ran, well... perfect. If "boring" could be used as a good term, this would be where is applies. Right off the trailer, it ran very very well. I believe i got my moneys worth out of the boat today alone. I have very little into it, and the results far exceeded my expectations. Its no drag boat, but its fast enough to scare me a bit! The cavitation plates are a trip! They completely change the attitude of the boat, from nose high, to bow dragging at the same rpm and diverter input. it'll take awhile to perfect, but i made a big improvement in just the ammount of time running the boat today! I cannot wait for mardon now! yahoo! Thanks again!

now the fun stuff! Pictures!

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next two are the same rpm and same diverter input. One with the down pedal hammered on, and one without.


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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 29, 2009, 05:19:20 pm
John,

You guys have done that old boat up proud....Looks like fun.

My curiosity is getting the best of me, how well did it ride with the oh shit pedal up and a little trim, did it get light?

It looks like a load of fun...... :thumbup:

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 29, 2009, 06:27:08 pm
Hi Glenn, This is Ian.

When i first got to boat up on a plane, i drove the boat around for awhile with the diverter 2 notches up from all the way down, the boat was very "driveable" there. As i got more and more comfortable with it, i went up on the diverter, it got lighter as it went up until the 3rd notch from all the way up. That is where the porpoise began. The first time i experienced it, it was pretty violent. I had no clue it was coming, ran it up to about 4000rpm took two hops and completely unloaded the pump. Thats when the fun started.

I began playing with the plates, at first i was unsure of how much the plates could really do for the attitude of the boat. As time went on, i got into the plates, and got the boat to ride flat with no porpoise even with the diverter all the way up, much to my suprise.

 I never layed into it for a long time, best i saw was 5200rpm headed back to the boat launch. But that was with no porpoise at all. I really think i can dial the porpoise out completly with a little bit of seat time. For now im VERY happy with it. I have the rideplate set at 2.25 degrees up from keel. That will be my baseline.

Thanks for the kind words! and thank you JBP for EVERYTHING! i promise to continue bringing this old girl back to life!
Ian
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 29, 2009, 07:38:07 pm
Very Nice work Ian and John ! I got tthe "vicarious thrill thru you boys that I really  needed today! Outstanding Pics and Great progress Tommy
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on August 29, 2009, 08:06:43 pm
That thing looks good! Hard work has payed off, congrats  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 29, 2009, 11:49:32 pm
OK guys, OC2Vegas just took some pics of his 1979 Superjet for me. And when i started to compare the two... man did that open a can of worms!!!

Im just throwing this out there, BUT what i believe is that the UFO may have a Sprint bottom (along with added drop keel) with a SuperJet deck. From what i have read throughout the research is that the sprint has a very narrow "cockpit" especially back by the motor, and has a longer deck than the super jets. The deck of the UFO definatly matches every other superjet ive seen, but the bottom seems to be different, more then just the drop keel. it appears that the super jets have very shallow lifting strakes, where-as the UFO has very deep and "swoopy" strakes, much like the sprint that i have a picture of. i will post a few pictures for you to give your input on. Just thinking outloud on this one!!

Ian
OC2Vegas' 79 superjet bottom
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another super jet pic i have, matches the one above
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and again
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NOW, this is a pic of Sprint. Notice the very narrow engine compartment, and different bottom then the superjets above.
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Ok, now from seeing those pictures. here are some of the UFO. It is hard to get pictures that show the bottom like the others posted because of the cav plates but i think these will do just fine. The bottom sure like like a sprint bottom to me, and the boat definatly has the superjet deck. Could it really be possible that the boat was special ordered with that combo or am i just dreaming?

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 29, 2009, 11:53:30 pm
Also note that the superjets picture above all have two stringers for each side of the boat (3 lifting strakes per side), and the sprint has one(two lifting strakes per side).......... the UFO has one stringer per side(and two lifting strakes per side).....

FYI: im counting the outside edge of the boats with the lip as a lifting strake also, mainly because i dont know what else it would be called.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on August 29, 2009, 11:57:21 pm
It is definately not a superjet, I have known that all along, but I never caught engine bay deal...I thought it was a one off, never thought to put 2 and 2 together.....Our Superjet had some similarities but the floor did not work out how the UFO II's did, good catch John...

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on August 30, 2009, 12:00:42 am
Talked about that boat with Tom last year at Long Beach. It's possible it might have been a "promotional" race boat.... Sanger wanted to sell the Super Jets more because of their space, but wanted the speed of the Sprint double concave bottom. Also the earlier SuperJets had the double concave bottoms as well, I think they switched in 1976? JMO from what I've heard around the campfire.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 30, 2009, 12:15:59 am
Thanks guys! I guess i wasnt too far off on my idea then! Id love to know more about this thing! The more and more i find, the more and more i realize how much it truely is different! I love it!! Also, have any of you heard of a guy that goes by the name.... "Sano" Don La Franchi? in the process of cleaning the boat up i took a few pics of the very very faded pinstriping on the dash, then took them to microsoft paint and tried to redo what the striping once said. this is what i found. " PREPARED BY: "SANO" DON LA FRANCHI" the word "sano" is hidden under the gold plate for the dash brace                                 Thanks again, Ian
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: pw_Tony on August 30, 2009, 12:26:49 am
Dunno bout the paint, might want to get ahold of Billy B, he painted most of the sangers I think, he might know who that is  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 30, 2009, 12:31:55 am
Thank you sir! We have exchanged a few PMs with billy b a few weeks ago. The search will continue!

Ian
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on August 30, 2009, 07:35:55 am
Ian, just to make things a little more confusing, that second pic is a custom sprint. Jim Rich they were made with both bottoms. Another person to hit up over at PB is Harlin Orrin, he was the shop foreman from the early to mid 70's. He designed the double bubble 20' cruiser, retooled the shovel nose's into pickle forks and may have had something to do with these.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on August 30, 2009, 09:54:30 am
The UFO had distinct similarities to my Older Sprint when I had them side by side BUT.. Josh and I still believe the keel for nearly the entire length of the hull is "dropped" about 1/4 to 3/8 inch, look real hard at the approximate 20 wide section of the center (betwen the Balsa sections ) to see this!  Harlan is by far the "man" but the person I was working with that gave me the most insight into this was Jeff Bennett (the guy is a boat bottom God) Tom
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 30, 2009, 11:48:46 am
Quote from: jet boat performance on August 30, 2009, 09:54:30 am
The UFO had distinct similarities to my Older Sprint when I had them side by side BUT.. Josh and I still believe the keel for nearly the entire length of the hull is "dropped" about 1/4 to 3/8 inch, look real hard at the approximate 20 wide section of the center (betwen the Balsa sections ) to see this!  Harlan is by far the "man" but the person I was working with that gave me the most insight into this was Jeff Bennett (the guy is a boat bottom God) Tom
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That's a good tip Tommy.  I hadn't thought of pestering Jeff about this.  I've pm'd Harlan and Billy B but will give Jeff a try as well (specially since you've already discussed with him). 

Thanks again everyone......john
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: crewchief22 on August 30, 2009, 08:46:20 pm
Skips Precision Marine in Redlands is a couple shops down from mine (I hang out over there at lunch to get away once in a while  ;D ).  Anyway, Skip and His Brother Troy ran Riverside Boat & marine in the 70's-80's and was the Sanger dealer in the area.  Both were involved with race boats at that time and might know something about it.  I''ll try to drag him down to the shop to show him some pics because he don't do computers.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on August 30, 2009, 09:18:49 pm
Quote from: crewchief22 on August 30, 2009, 08:46:20 pm
Skips Precision Marine in Redlands is a couple shops down from mine (I hang out over there at lunch to get away once in a while  ;D ).  Anyway, Skip and His Brother Troy ran Riverside Boat & marine in the 70's-80's and was the Sanger dealer in the area.  Both were involved with race boats at that time and might know something about it.  I''ll try to drag him down to the shop to show him some pics because he don't do computers.

That would be awesome! Thank you very very much for the effort!
Ian
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 06, 2009, 07:24:53 am
Hah!  We're at the lake and he's running the piss out of this boat. So much so that he ran himself out of fuel at the other end of the reseviour!!!

He's getting definatley getting the hang of it and we continue to try different settings.

We have some onboard camera footage from his little helmet camera setup and we'll try to post that up when we get home. Thanks again Tommy and JetBoatPerformance. He's gotten nuthin but compliments (we have 144 boats here) and one guy wanting to buy it. What a great time.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 06, 2009, 09:01:47 am
Cant wait to see the footage and Pics from the outing , Have fun and be safe !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 09, 2009, 08:12:42 pm
Here's some footage of a pass past me.  The water looks smooth but it has some rollers that drove everyone crazy.

This was with the diverter up and you can see the bouncing till he leans on it and then it starts to carry the nose.  Maybe a bit more power needed???  Obviously he could lose most of it by lowering the diverter or touching the plates but nevertheless, we're getting there..

http://vimeo.com/6510422  (http://vimeo.com/6510422)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on September 09, 2009, 08:30:33 pm
I dunno John, I'm thinking some plate or a little less roost would have fixed it right up, BTW, the boat looks KILLER! Props to you and the punk ass kid! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: FORKEDUP on September 09, 2009, 08:31:58 pm
 :thumbup: :thumbup:keep up the great work, the boat has come along way in the hands of your son and you,  very very nice!!!!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on September 09, 2009, 08:47:52 pm
Lookin good Boys ! Tommy
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 09, 2009, 09:20:15 pm
Thanks guys.  Yep, we're getting close.  Fighting fuel pressure issues though.  I hate to mess up those beautiful plates but I may need to clearance it so we can run a mechanical pump.  Measuring the Carter 170gph I have, we all we need is a slight slot to accomadate the wide flange and it would fit.  Get rid of that electric "is it gonna work or not" worry.

Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 09, 2009, 10:10:15 pm
Quote from: jrork on September 09, 2009, 09:20:15 pm
Thanks guys.  Yep, we're getting close.  Fighting fuel pressure issues though.  I hate to mess up those beautiful plates but I may need to clearance it so we can run a mechanical pump.  Measuring the Carter 170gph I have, we all we need is a slight slot to accomadate the wide flange and it would fit.  Get rid of that electric "is it gonna work or not" worry.



John,

What is an "electric worry"...I have a Holley Blue and a regulator on mine and I absolutely love it...

It is hooked to a three pole oil pressure switch and if the engine dies, so does the pump...

I have been running these for several years without issue...

If you are worried about leaning her out, your pump is too little or turned down to far...7 lbs. at the seat..hands down...

Just curious, not busting your balls, boat looks badass BTW  :thumbup:

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 09, 2009, 10:41:43 pm
Bust away Glenn. I'm still learning all this stuff. We're running a Holley :HP150 billet pump and a Holley regulator. Other than a short section of 3/8" rubber from each tank to a tee, its all -8AN to the pump, regulator and to the carb.
The reason I'm getting concerned is that it worked perfect leading up to the weekend and all day Friday. From that point on it has great pressure (8 or so (it drifts a touch)) until he leans on it. From the is lays down to less tha 2 pounds and the boat won't get up on plane,  Makes for a looong idle across that reservior.
With some time we'll swap out the last of the rubber lines as well but we just ran out of time. Besides, it was working fine up to Friday. Thanks for the help Glenn. Take care
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 09, 2009, 10:51:16 pm
Quote from: jrork on September 09, 2009, 10:41:43 pm
Bust away Glenn. I'm still learning all this stuff. We're running a Holley :HP150 billet pump and a Holley regulator. Other than a short section of 3/8" rubber from each tank to a tee, its all -8AN to the pump, regulator and to the carb.
The reason I'm getting concerned is that it worked perfect leading up to the weekend and all day Friday. From that point on it has great pressure (8 or so (it drifts a touch)) until he leans on it. From the is lays down to less tha 2 pounds and the boat won't get up on plane,  Makes for a looong idle across that reservior.
With some time we'll swap out the last of the rubber lines as well but we just ran out of time. Besides, it was working fine up to Friday. Thanks for the help Glenn. Take care

It sounds like hose collapse to me, which it would still do with a mechanical (I'm sure you knew that). I use braided hose for the suction side on High output deals because of this...Could the regulator be stuck..


That reminds me of a funny story (Small thread jack) My buddy build a 400M for his '68 Mustang Pro Street with an 871 BDS and two fours...cool car...anyway, he calls me up because the car wont start and it is absolutely kiking his ass, so I get there and there is not even the smell of gas in the carbs...I was like "dude, you're out of gas!" he swears he just put 15 gallons of high test in it... So after some checking, the celophane wrapper was still over the in hole on the "Brand New" fuel pressure regulator... :screwy:

He bought the pizza's and beer   ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 10, 2009, 06:56:24 am
Yup, the exact reason I wanna swap out the rubber lines but we ran out of home stock AN fittings so we had to go with what we had.  I hadn't even considered the regulator but that would be a easy swap as we have a couple spares here in my box of goodies.

Thanks again Glenn and keep in touch
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 10, 2009, 08:37:15 am
I think we'll try to rob the Brendella of the lines from my tanks to the tee and see if that cures it. That will give it full -8 througout the entire fuel system and make it comparable to mine (cept fo the regulators).  That should eliminate the uncertainty there.... 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 10, 2009, 06:35:34 pm
Quote from: jrork on September 10, 2009, 08:37:15 am
I think we'll try to rob the Brendella of the lines from my tanks to the tee and see if that cures it. That will give it full -8 througout the entire fuel system and make it comparable to mine (cept fo the regulators).  That should eliminate the uncertainty there.... 

Orrrrrrr................

Get yourself a compound gauge before the pump and check the negative pressure while running... ;)

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: challenger on September 10, 2009, 06:36:54 pm
no post jacking but what the hell is that
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on September 10, 2009, 06:43:14 pm
Quote from: challenger on September 10, 2009, 06:36:54 pm
no post jacking but what the hell is that

What's what?  ???
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 10, 2009, 10:49:46 pm
Here is some of my on board footage taken with my GoPro wide angle HD camera mounted to the dash of the boat. There are a few passes on the video that show how little the porpoise is when im goin flat out, with the diverter down some i have little to none at all.

Enjoy! Ian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPJ1raWxf0
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: honda1 on November 28, 2009, 06:26:42 pm
Great job John and hd TOMs hairline is from all the blower boats he has built over the years  ;D :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 02, 2010, 06:27:38 am
Whoops, we never update this.  We on a whim swapped a Carter Mechanical that I had in the shop and took it out and it worked perfectly. Only thing we did was space that one front plate on that side out about an inch. The pillow blocks lined up perfectly with an existing hole and we were good to go. No electric pump, no regulator, just a good old KISS system and it worked flawlessly.  Now we need to find a dbl pumper Holley for this thing and he should be golden. 

One thing that I gotta admit, this boat is so much cooler than mine. The lines are killer, it's got some much more room and I love how it rides in the water. Our boat you get wet and the motor gets douched all the time.
This Sanger you and the motor stay dry. I really like that.

Hmmmm, wonder what my motor would be like in the Sanger.... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: IRRebel on January 05, 2010, 01:21:15 pm
I have a feeling you'll find out John!  ;D

Ray
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on January 05, 2010, 07:21:14 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 02, 2010, 06:27:38 am


Hmmmm, wonder what my motor would be like in the Sanger.... ;D ;D ;D

Crazy but It might be a Wild ride !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 14, 2010, 09:04:22 pm
 ;D ;D ;D Hmmmmm, it would be really cool with a set of zoomies and overdriven a bit.  Things that make you go hmmmm

I can see this boat with a badass high compression BBC and a single Dom or a 500+" blower motor in it's future.

Too cool of a boat to just let it go.   What about a 427" with mechanical FI?  Now how sick would that be?  Ian has more talent that I could hope and dream of ever having...all he needs is some money......Jan, where's the check book!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 15, 2010, 07:48:27 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 14, 2010, 09:04:22 pm
WHAT ABOUT A 427" WITH MECHANICAL FI!!!?  ......Jan, where's the check book!

I vote ALL OF THE ABOVE! thanks ol man for my 22 and 1/2 birthday present!

ian
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on January 15, 2010, 08:41:56 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 15, 2010, 07:48:27 pm
I vote ALL OF THE ABOVE! thanks ol man for my 22 and 1/2 birthday present!

ian

John,

I think you need to put some parental controls on your computer   LOL :thumbup:

Hi Ian!  ;D

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 16, 2010, 06:04:54 am
Quote from: GT Jets on January 15, 2010, 08:41:56 pm
John,

I think you need to put some parental controls on your computer   LOL :thumbup:

Hi Ian!  ;D

GT

Damn it!  You're absolutely right Glenn.  Can't turn your back on your kids for one second...
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 16, 2010, 01:54:00 pm
Hi Glenn!!! you're a tin can boat guy, maybe you will know the answer...Grants Pass race this year?? i'd like to go see the festivities if it happens, promised Jeff id come watch him race... gonna have to fulfill that promise even if he isnt here to race anymore.

Back to the normal broadcast... FI motor in the sanger!!!

Ian
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on January 16, 2010, 02:26:48 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 16, 2010, 01:54:00 pm
Hi Glenn!!! you're a tin can boat guy, maybe you will know the answer...Grants Pass race this year?? i'd like to go see the festivities if it happens, promised Jeff id come watch him race... gonna have to fulfill that promise even if he isnt here to race anymore.

Back to the normal broadcast... FI motor in the sanger!!!

Ian

Ian,

From what I am told, there is only one U.S. race scheduled so far, which is the Hoopa Race on the Trinity River in Northern California. The Worlds is being hosted by Mexico this year, it's going to be a strange year for sure...The Hoopa race is sort of different in that it is held smack in the middle of an Indian reservation...Also hotel accommodations suck... :thumbdown:

There is a state campground not too far from the action though.....Look up Willow Creek California for more info...

For schedule info and a pretty laid back and quiet forum, check out   www.jetboatracing.com   Jesse will keep the schedule pretty up to date because he is the head of the racing committee in the states.

They normally schedule the Boatnik a little late and as far as I know, no other Rogue race is in the works...

Hope they get more races scheduled, I am going to try to make it to at least one, I need my fix  :sly:

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 03, 2010, 04:47:06 pm
Good news, Bad news, Good news, Bad news

Well, the Good news is Ian has decided to not be a loser like his pops and go get some education and make something of himself so he'll be headed off to college.... Congrats son! I'm f'n proud of you.  :thumbup:

Bad news is that he has to sell his boat cuz he can't support it while going to college.  :thumbdown:

Good news is that we're gonna keep it in the family as Jan and I have bought it from him

Bad news is I just paid a ton of money to buy a hull with my engine and a bunch of my parts in it.......... :screwy:   ;)

And good news is that I have a new project....... ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Nordie on March 03, 2010, 04:50:19 pm
maybe the college will pay off, and he will buy it back from you someday  :thumbup:

growing up i got anything i wanted as long as i was an a student...grades fell and it was hell!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 03, 2010, 04:50:59 pm
You're a good man John Rork, I don't care what GT says about you...
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 03, 2010, 05:06:55 pm
Quote from: Nordie on March 03, 2010, 04:50:19 pm
maybe the college will pay off, and he will buy it back from you someday  :thumbup:


The punk probably will buy it back after I dump a bunch of money and more parts in it.  Then of course he's want it for less that I just bought it from him for cuz it's 4 years older.........   ;)


Quote from: Luckie Stiff on March 03, 2010, 04:50:59 pm
You're a good man John Rork, I don't care what GT says about you...

Nah Skip, I'm a badass mofo and what GT says about me is only half of it.   >:D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Nordie on March 03, 2010, 05:11:31 pm
if thats the case im available for adoption!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on March 03, 2010, 07:09:12 pm
You NEEDED a new project Grandpa , thats what keeps you goin' What woman Jan is indeed
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 03, 2010, 09:48:14 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on March 03, 2010, 07:09:12 pm
You NEEDED a new project Grandpa , thats what keeps you goin' What woman Jan is indeed

Hah! Yah, she's pretty damn lucky isnt she?  Actually Tommy, the first time I saw this boat in person down at your shop when Ian was buying it I fell in love with it.  It's different, beautiful lines, bitchin hardware and has what I would classify as some really cool patina.  Guys in the streetrod set are bustin their ass to get this look and this boat has it in spades.  

I just gotta make sure I don't mess it up.  Just gotta keep trying to see if that money tree will leaf out.  My boat pert-n-near killed that poor tree..
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on March 04, 2010, 07:33:07 am
It is indeed a interesting obsession we all seem to have with these boats, the collection of them and the work and restoration .When Glen first told me abot that boat I knew I had to own it ! Just like many of the hundreds of boats that have passed the JBP "halls" over the years we're  better off for the expirience of rerigging and getting to drive the UFO . Like the Schiada and several others I wish I could have a Jay Leno type Stable and could afford to have kept them all . But they move out in anticipation of the next I've kind of got my eye on one of Rons Cheyenes now  ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 04, 2010, 12:08:20 pm
Quote from: jet boat performance on March 04, 2010, 07:33:07 am
I've kind of got my eye on one of Rons Cheyenes now  ;)

YOU and ME both cupcake.........   I talked to him for a long time the other night.  Sounds really nice....
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on September 05, 2010, 10:57:20 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 02, 2010, 06:27:38 am
Hmmmm, wonder what my motor would be like in the Sanger.... ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: IRRebel on January 05, 2010, 01:21:15 pm
I have a feeling you'll find out John!  ;D
Ray

Quote from: jet boat performance on March 03, 2010, 07:09:12 pm
You NEEDED a new project Grandpa , thats what keeps you goin' What woman Jan is indeed

It was 49 degrees going over the pass this morning, not supposed to get above 60 for God know how long............. what to do what to do.........  Oh wait.........I have an idea...........  ;D

The resurrection of the KJ class one boat at a time.     Stay tuned for more updates................ ;)
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on December 29, 2010, 05:15:17 pm
 :o :o :o Love ya Dad! ;D
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh157%2Fjrork%2FGood3.jpg&hash=a3e63e8d9ead37843984563aeddd1cd93673fd96)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi63.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh157%2Fjrork%2FGood1.jpg&hash=683a70b815024966a0be2c0ea17242becdbc44a5)
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 78centurian on December 29, 2010, 06:03:37 pm
bad ass bud!!!!!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jet boat performance on December 29, 2010, 07:31:12 pm
NICE GRANDPA Cant wait to see it run !
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on December 29, 2010, 07:52:29 pm
Oh sure......... While this old fart is at work slaving away, the punk kid home from college just up and steals my motor and my Log on name and has the nerve to post up as me!

Actually....I gotta admit, it does look bad ass in there....... ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: crewchief22 on December 29, 2010, 10:05:33 pm
That thing needs to make a quick trip south for the Tom Papp Memorial next weekend.  ;)

Looks great.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GlassCutter on December 29, 2010, 10:17:57 pm
Mmmm  .  .  .  Zoomies   :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 07, 2011, 04:41:46 pm
NEWS FLASH!!!!

I've been able to track down the gentleman that built this boat!   We're trading voice mails but regardless, we'll soon be able to reconstruct the full history of this boat.  Too F'n cool!!!! :beer:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on January 09, 2011, 09:13:57 am
Quote from: jrork on January 07, 2011, 04:41:46 pm
NEWS FLASH!!!!

I've been able to track down the gentleman that built this boat!   We're trading voice mails but regardless, we'll soon be able to reconstruct the full history of this boat.  Too F'n cool!!!! :beer:


That is one of the coolest things ever!!

Be sure to keep us updated.... :thumbup: :thumbup:

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 09, 2011, 12:28:39 pm
Will do Glenn.   I can't wait.  Havent managed to connect but when he responded to my message with "if this is UFO II, call me" I had goosebumps.   He didnt even hesitate.

Could you help me and tell me about what year it was when you first saw this boat and what town/city that was?

Take care
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on January 09, 2011, 06:37:47 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 09, 2011, 12:28:39 pm
Will do Glenn.   I can't wait.  Havent managed to connect but when he responded to my message with "if this is UFO II, call me" I had goosebumps.   He didnt even hesitate.

Could you help me and tell me about what year it was when you first saw this boat and what town/city that was?

Take care

I first tried to buy this boat un-rigged in 1996 and it was literally a barn find, it was shiny new looking and all the yellow anodized parts were in the cardboard boxes the anodizing guys packaged them in.

The guys that had it were in San Jose CA and I can't remember how they ended up with it but he was asking $7500 for it without a motor or exhaust... :screwy:.

By the time I got a hold of it it had been outside in the weather for almost ten years.  :thumbdown:

I really wanted to keep it, but it was not worth the divorce it would have caused....LOL  ;D

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 09, 2011, 07:24:05 pm
Thanks so much Glenn.  I wonder if these guys are the same ones you dealt with.  Here's what he messaged me a bit ago.

"Hi John
Just a short beginning to what I hope will be a long friendship between myself and my central California friends and car guys, and you and your friends in Washington State.

U F O II was purchased by my friend Rich Laguilo at a time when [Sanger Boats, Fresno California] had stopped selling bare hulls to the general public. U F O II was originally billed to a boat boat racer in Oaklahoma, and was picked up and payed for by Rich at Sanger Boats. U F O II came home to San Francisco California where Rich and I both lived. Lots more to come"



Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 11, 2011, 06:36:04 pm
WOW!!!!

I just got off the phone with the original builders/owners of this boat and this boat has so much history I can't believe it.  All of it is fully documented and he's assembling a portfolio for Ian.

When I hung up with him I was so nervous I was shaking and Jan laughed at me cuz I opened two beers at the same time.   This is a REALLY special boat.

More to come..........john
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: BOOST on January 11, 2011, 06:47:52 pm
 WOW is right what a great find.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on January 12, 2011, 07:40:00 am
I know the feeling John.....reminds me when I found the original owner of the Rootin Tootin Raspberry.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 13, 2011, 05:24:35 pm
Quote from: Brad @ SCJB on January 12, 2011, 07:40:00 am
I know the feeling John.....reminds me when I found the original owner of the Rootin Tootin Raspberry.  :thumbup:

LOL Brad, I bet!   While this boat doesnt have "racing" heritage, it has historical value in spades!   Sounds like it's fully documented to the point theyre putting together a "portfolio" for Ian.

I'll share what I know soon.

Glenn, Ian mentioned you might still have the original droop and nozzle from this.  If you do, I would be very much interested in buying it from you.   Hal has the Calgo steering but unfortunately is using it so that will be tough come come up with but I'm gonna try,'

Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on January 13, 2011, 10:52:44 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 13, 2011, 05:24:35 pm
LOL Brad, I bet!   While this boat doesnt have "racing" heritage, it has historical value in spades!   Sounds like it's fully documented to the point theyre putting together a "portfolio" for Ian.

I'll share what I know soon.

Glenn, Ian mentioned you might still have the original droop and nozzle from this.  If you do, I would be very much interested in buying it from you.   Hal has the Calgo steering but unfortunately is using it so that will be tough come come up with but I'm gonna try,'

Well John, as much as I would love to get those parts to you, the entire pump and rigging is installed in White Trash right now, I sold the original pump from Trash a couple years ago because I needed more impeller and had to get the split bowl for adding the droop to remedy a major handling issue.

That being said, I found another full Droop and I think I gave the original race nozzle to Tom when I sold the boat, which reminds me....Tommy, I will be sending you a wish list very soon... :D

I will get all the details worked out sometime next week, it has been stupid busy here lately, going to be working 20 hours just this weekend... :screwy:

Hope all is well.

GT
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 14, 2011, 08:19:12 am
No worries Glenn.  I just thought I would ask in case it was just taking up space in the shop.   Thanks anyway.



Okay, here's a bit more of the story.   Glenn and Tommy, feel free to edit as needed.

Okay, I apologize in advance if this rambles a bit and I’m certain that the story will grow but here goes what I know at the moment.

I’ll start with what we’ve have known in the past.

From what I understand Glenn went to look at this boat in 1996.  The boat was in a warehouse and completely unrigged.  The aluminum was still in the boxes from having been anodized.  The paint was perfect as was the floor and upolstrey.  There was an all aluminum ZL1 Chev motor with injection setting alongside it and likely belonged to the boat.   

The guys that were selling it wanted $7500 minus motor and exhaust so he passed on it but kept his eye on it.

Fast forward to 10 years later where it came up for sale again and Glenn went to look at it.  Unfortunately, by that time, they had pushed it outside and the sun had done damage to the incredible paint and upholstery.  The boat was still unrigged.

Glenn bought the boat at that time and brought it home.  He documented what he had found and stored it.  Unfortunately at the time, he couldn’t put time and money into it so he decided to sell it.

In 2008 Tommy at JetBoatPerformance bought the boat and brought it into their capable hands.  Josh worked his magic assembling all the anodized rail kits and finished rigging the cav plate hardware.   They assembed the boat, installing a rebuilt pump, diverter, cables and made it a workable boat.  They had a blown BBC in it for a while and tried a variety of setups before electing to focus on the next project and putting the Sanger up for sale.

In March 2009 my son, Ian,  bought the boat and we had a great father and son trip south to pick it up as well as my new blower motor I was having Barry Obler at Obnoxious Racing Engines assemble for me.

We brought it home and Ian spent all his free time buffing and detailing the boat back.  The California sun had unfortunately done its damage to the paint but I gotta admit, Ian was able to bring back a lot of it’s luster. 
 
Looking at it closer we found so many details like pinstriping on the bottom of the boat, pinstriping inside the suction housing, braided trailer wire, murals, pinstriped and parquet floor and very faintly the sign on the dash that said “Prepared by Sano Don La Franchi”   

Looking at this boat I was certain it was different and may have some history so I started doing searches to the names on all the boat sites I could think of but unfortunately came up empty.  A number of folks mentioned that the name “UFO” sounded familiar but they couldn’t remember who had it.

The whole time in the back of my mind I kept thinking about when I was younger Jan and I would go to the car shows and see all the awesome hotrods (and yes, even vans) and in the shows there were often some bitchin boats in the show as well.  Given this I thought it might have had some time on the showroom floor so I started posting on all the hotrodders sites as well but alas, no luck.

Unfortunately, Ian, like so many was hit by the economy and was laid off of his job.  It was tough timing as the big Labor Day event was quickly approaching but he regrettably didn’t have much money to get a motor and finish the boat.   Soooooo, against my better judgment, I turned him loose in my shop and spare parts and was able to assemble a BBC and all the fixings to get the boat running.  A couple of our friends kicked in some spare parts as well and we’ll be forever grateful.   

He had a great time over the big gathering and though there were so many big dollar boats, Ian’s boat always had a crowd around it. The more you stare at this boat the more you realize just how different it is.

Upon returning from the big bash, Ian applied and was accepted to Central Washington University to make something of himself instead of ending up a flake like me.

Now, fast forward to over this last holiday weekend when he was home from college and decided to play a prank on me by installing my blower motor in his boat.  The look just blew me away and inspired me again to try to find the history of this incredible boat.

I had posted everywhere I could think of, Googled it, Bing’d it and searched anyway I could think of and could never find anything. The only lead we had  was “Prespared by Sano Don La Franchi”.

Just for grins I tried something I had never done, FaceBook. What are the odds of somebody like Don La Franchi being on FaceBook?
Well, low and behold there WAS a Don La Franchi on FaceBook and the area listed sounded about right. (San Francisco).

I sent him a private message mentioning my son buying a boat with a Don La Fanchi name on the dash and would he have been involved in it or did he have any tips he would be willing to share. 

His quick reply was “if this is about UFO II, call me at **********”

I was blown away that out of the blue I had finally found somebody that knew something about the boat and I shakingly called the number.   Unfortunately, we continued to play phone tag until……….one night as I was getting home from work I got a call. 

On a conference call was not only Don La Franchi but Rich Laguilo, the former owner of UFO II.

I knew I was in heaven when Rich asked if I knew “how famous that boat is?”………………


To be continued…
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: Nordie on January 14, 2011, 05:30:09 pm
John your like a stripper at the end of a lap dance...you simply just want more....im intregued by this story....next chapter already dammit
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: crewchief22 on January 14, 2011, 08:16:34 pm
Quote from: jrork on January 14, 2011, 08:19:12 am

when Rich asked if I knew “how famous that boat is?”………………


You said... "Very, it's on SCJB" right?  ;D

Come on, its been 12 hours.... give us some more  :banghead:

  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 15, 2011, 01:03:34 pm
Quote from: crewchief22 on January 14, 2011, 08:16:34 pm

Come on, its been 12 hours.... give us some more  :banghead:

  :thumbup:

Okay CC, for you I'll add some more



The former owner and I keep missing each others calls but I hope to hook up with him today.

Regardless, I'll add a bit more working backwards now.

Approximately 1981 or 82,they decided to retire the boat in a proper manner.

The location was chosen to be Lake Shasta. An event was planned where the boat would be officially christened.  Well in excess of 150 people were in attendance. The boat was backed into the water, champagne was poured on the boat and passed around to everyone and then the boat was launched for the first time to show that a) it would float, b) it actually ran, and finally, c) to formally retire it from competition.

Sorta like putting a champion race horse out to pasture....


Thanks for following along on this journey..........john
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 24, 2011, 10:22:41 pm
Okay, we finally hooked up by phone.  Super nice guy.  We probably talked for almost 2 hours and though this isnt anywhere near the whole story, it gives you a smattering of what we talked about.   I cant wait to see the pictures cuz there were so many custom pieces built and unfortunately dont exist today.  Dont know what happened to those but I would love to see them.   I'll post them up as soon as I get them (though I suspect it will be a while).

Here goes

The boat was bought as a bare hull from Sanger in 1977 thru Bruce Halloway of GTH Marine after Jack Davidson had stopped selling bare hulls to the public.  The color was black with gold and orange stripes in the typical Sanger fashion.

He had full stringers installed along with the wood flooring.

The motor was a blown 468 with twin dominators running 22% over.

The boat had a Lenco multi disc clutch with air shifter to activate it.

The pump was built by Dave Bostrom of GT Boats (was GTH Marine at the time) with a AQ shaft, stainless A impeller with a “fuel” cut.  Custom cut shoe and loader.  Double drilled bowl and long droop with a race nozzle with inserts. He said at the time, it was the very best of the best in parts.   The pump was fully pinstriped inside and out.  Unfortunately, the pump is no longer in this boat but the suction housing is the original one given that there’s pinstriping in the intake area.

Mike Farley did the paint including the pinstriping, numbering and murals. I’ll be honest, the name didn’t ring a bell to me but as soon as I started surfing the web I found many of his works on both boats as well as race cars.   Gonna have to do more research here.

The trailer was custom built for the boat with completely ground and smoothed welds, braided wiring (still present) and pinstriped throughout.  The hubs were drilled for both Chevy and Ford pattern.

A Halon fire suppression system was installed with hardlines throughout.  Nozzles on the gunnels as well as mounted solid to the motor on the heads.

The Cav plate hardware was built by George Shilala of Finishline.   

All the custom machine work, rail kits, tiller for the Calgo steering as well as the aluminum seat frames were done by his friend Don La Franchi.  Don’s a master sheetmetal man as well as a self taught machinist and has such attention to detail that he was knicknamed many years ago “Sano Don”.

A good friend that worked at Roy Brizio Street Rods assisted in getting all the hardware anodized (including the AN fittings) in matching colors. The wiring as well as the sparkplug wires were all custom colored to match the paint.  The boat was sponsored by Sanderson Headers so needless to say, he ran those headers.

The boat competed in the 1979/1980 season of the ISCA circuit ultimately winning the national championship in both Custom Boat and Comp Boat.  It was so successful and dominating that the judges were having to break out the catagories as many protested it’s dominance.   He still has the plaques as well as trophies and it was incredible to listen to him read off all the awards he still has.

At the time it was named the champion, it was the first Jet boat to when the championship. 

It was retired as I mentioned at previously at Lake Shasta with much fanfair.   He sparingly used it for a year or so before he ended up selling the hull to a friend for $7000 in around 1983.

He still has many of the judges sheets, trophies, awards, display boards as well and 100’s of pictures and is working on putting together a portfolio for my son along with a few parts that he still has.

He has some great stories like when he was at either the Oakland Roadster Show or the Cow Palace (I cant remember which he said) when there was a protest that his engine was a dummy and didn’t run.   He was given 3 hours to prepare it (never kept oil or gas in it so there were no chances of leaks) and swap out the exhaust (didn’t want to blue the chrome Sandersons).   He got that all done and had some zoomies mounted up and much to the disappointment of his competitors, fired the engine.  The boat was alongside one of the walls and the exhaust from the zoomies blew some banners loose from the walls  and they came down floating down on the crowd and show cars.   

I’m gonna continue to search some of this out but regardless, this is fun stuff.

Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 77GT on January 25, 2011, 04:48:24 am
Quote from: jrork on January 24, 2011, 10:22:41 pm
Okay, we finally hooked up by phone.  Super nice guy.  We probably talked for almost 2 hours and though this isnt anywhere near the whole story, it gives you a smattering of what we talked about.   I cant wait to see the pictures cuz there were so many custom pieces built and unfortunately dont exist today.  Dont know what happened to those but I would love to see them.   I'll post them up as soon as I get them (though I suspect it will be a while).

Here goes

The boat was bought as a bare hull from Sanger in 1977 thru Bruce Halloway of GTH Marine after Jack Davidson had stopped selling bare hulls to the public.  The color was black with gold and orange stripes in the typical Sanger fashion.

He had full stringers installed along with the wood flooring.

The motor was a blown 468 with twin dominators running 22% over.

The boat had a Lenco multi disc clutch with air shifter to activate it.

The pump was built by Dave Bostrom of GT Boats (was GTH Marine at the time) with a AQ shaft, stainless A impeller with a “fuel” cut.  Custom cut shoe and loader.  Double drilled bowl and long droop with a race nozzle with inserts. He said at the time, it was the very best of the best in parts.   The pump was fully pinstriped inside and out.  Unfortunately, the pump is no longer in this boat but the suction housing is the original one given that there’s pinstriping in the intake area.

Mike Farley did the paint including the pinstriping, numbering and murals. I’ll be honest, the name didn’t ring a bell to me but as soon as I started surfing the web I found many of his works on both boats as well as race cars.   Gonna have to do more research here.

The trailer was custom built for the boat with completely ground and smoothed welds, braided wiring (still present) and pinstriped throughout.  The hubs were drilled for both Chevy and Ford pattern.

A Halon fire suppression system was installed with hardlines throughout.  Nozzles on the gunnels as well as mounted solid to the motor on the heads.

The Cav plate hardware was built by George Shilala of Finishline.   

All the custom machine work, rail kits, tiller for the Calgo steering as well as the aluminum seat frames were done by his friend Don La Franchi.  Don’s a master sheetmetal man as well as a self taught machinist and has such attention to detail that he was knicknamed many years ago “Sano Don”.

A good friend that worked at Roy Brizio Street Rods assisted in getting all the hardware anodized (including the AN fittings) in matching colors. The wiring as well as the sparkplug wires were all custom colored to match the paint.  The boat was sponsored by Sanderson Headers so needless to say, he ran those headers.

The boat competed in the 1979/1980 season of the ISCA circuit ultimately winning the national championship in both Custom Boat and Comp Boat.  It was so successful and dominating that the judges were having to break out the catagories as many protested it’s dominance.   He still has the plaques as well as trophies and it was incredible to listen to him read off all the awards he still has.

At the time it was named the champion, it was the first Jet boat to when the championship. 

It was retired as I mentioned at previously at Lake Shasta with much fanfair.   He sparingly used it for a year or so before he ended up selling the hull to a friend for $7000 in around 1983.

He still has many of the judges sheets, trophies, awards, display boards as well and 100’s of pictures and is working on putting together a portfolio for my son along with a few parts that he still has.

He has some great stories like when he was at either the Oakland Roadster Show or the Cow Palace (I cant remember which he said) when there was a protest that his engine was a dummy and didn’t run.   He was given 3 hours to prepare it (never kept oil or gas in it so there were no chances of leaks) and swap out the exhaust (didn’t want to blue the chrome Sandersons).   He got that all done and had some zoomies mounted up and much to the disappointment of his competitors, fired the engine.  The boat was alongside one of the walls and the exhaust from the zoomies blew some banners loose from the walls  and they came down floating down on the crowd and show cars.   

I’m gonna continue to search some of this out but regardless, this is fun stuff.

What an interesting story.  I bought a bare hull from Bruce and Dave and am currently overhauling it.  I would like to get in contact with them.  As I recall, my hull was actually made by "Fiberglass West".  Somewhere around here I have some paper work from back then.  Time to dig through some boxes.
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 26, 2011, 04:59:00 pm
I believe Dave is still in business but I think Bruce has retired. At least that's what Rich was thinking. 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on January 30, 2011, 08:44:20 am
Well, it's terrible fat but running.   Found out that my mix screws were off and loading it up at idle but goes those even'd out and much better.   Now if it wasnt so crappy in the weather department we'd have something!
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: GT Jets on January 30, 2011, 09:16:16 am
Quote from: jrork on January 30, 2011, 08:44:20 am
Well, it's terrible fat but running.   Found out that my mix screws were off and loading it up at idle but goes those even'd out and much better.   Now if it wasnt so crappy in the weather department we'd have something!

 :thumbup: :thumbup:

BTW John, the boat trailer had American Daisy wheels on the trailer....Sadly, that was the only reason the boat was traded to the guy I got it from....He wanted the wheels for his Tahiti trailer..... :screwy:

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on March 20, 2011, 10:15:08 am
UFO II Circa 1979
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UFO 1 (there were 3 UFO's)
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 :beer: :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 77GT on March 20, 2011, 02:42:55 pm
Quote from: jrork on March 20, 2011, 10:15:08 am

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Why are there 4 exhaust tips in the transome?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 20, 2011, 03:11:36 pm
Quote from: 77GT on March 20, 2011, 02:42:55 pm
Why are there 4 exhaust tips in the transome?
 
Because its a UFO  ;D
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 20, 2011, 06:18:47 pm
That is too cool a blown boat being pulled by a Caddy :screwy:
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: IRRebel on March 21, 2011, 08:52:24 am
Quote from: 76NORDIC on March 20, 2011, 06:18:47 pm
That is too cool a blown boat being pulled by a Caddy :screwy:

I'm diggin the Scott Superslot Fuelie hat style scoop! Sandeggo's looks a LOT like it too.  :thumbup:

Mad Max style!  ;)

Ray
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: 77GT on March 21, 2011, 10:18:34 am
Can you even buy a new passenger car today that you can tow one of our boats with?
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 29, 2012, 07:30:03 pm
Wow, Ian and I need to update this.  So much has been found and discovered.   I'll try to get this update this weekend

Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 30, 2012, 05:51:23 am
Okay, we have learned so much of this boat that we now know the entire history start to finish so I'll post this again after having it been edited by the former owner and folks off the build team.   Ian and I have been so fortunate to get to know these guys and are now happy to call them friends as they are huge gearheads.

Here we go......

The UFO II is a 1977 Sanger boat owned by my son Ian Rork. A friend of ours in Central California Glenn Thorne went to look at this boat in 1996. The boat was in a warehouse and completely unrigged. The aluminum was still in boxes from having been freshly anodized. The paint, upholstrey and trailer were breathtaking.
The guys that were selling it wanted $7500 minus motor so Glenn passed on it but kept his eye on it.

Now fast forward to 10 years later when it came up for sale again and Glenn went to look at it. Unfortunately, by that time it had been pushed ouside and the California sun had done damage to the incredible paint and upholstrey.
At this time, Glenn was finally able to buy the boat and he brought it home where he documented what he had and put it in storage.

In 2008, another close friend Tom Manier of Jetboatperformance bought the boat from Glenn and originally started this thread. They assembled all the anodized rail kit, and finished the cavatation hardware. They put a supercharged big block Chevy in it and tried a variety of setups before electing to focus on other projects and put the Sanger up for sale where Ian bought it sight unseen.

In March of 2009, Ian and I had a great father/son trip to southern California to pick up my new blower motor I was having assembled by Barry Obler of Obnoxious Racing Engines. On the way back, we swung by Tom at JBP and we brought the UFO II home to Washington State.

While Ian was buffing and detailing the boat we found so many details that are not typical like the murals, pinstriping on the deck, on the floor, the trailer, and even inside the pump and faintly we could see the remanants of pinstriping on the dash that said,
"Prepared by Sano Don La Franci"
We knew this boat was different and I tried to find some history through all the boat forums I could think of but not luck.
The whole time in the back of my mind I kept thinking about when I was young, my wife Janice Rork and I would go to the car shows and every once in a while there would be some boats mixed in with the hotrods and motorcyles. Given this, I tried the custom car forums but no luck.

Unfortunately, Ian like so many was hit by the economy soon after buying the boat and was laid off. The timing was tough as our big Labor Day Mardon event sponsored by Tony Skagen of Skagen Boats was coming up quickly.
Sooooo, against my better judgement, I turned Ian loose in my shop and spare parts. He was able to assemble a Big Block Chevy and all the fixings to get the boat running.
It's important to mention the help of so many friends like Tony Skagen, Tom Manier, Travis Wester, Rick Gitchel, Austin Cole who also kicked in some spare parts to get him on the water.
We made the event and the boat performed flawlessly and it was great to see him with his own boat.
Upon returning, Ian was accepted to Central Washington University to make something of himself instead of ending up like me.

Now, fast forward to over the 2010 Christmas Holiday break when Ian was home and decided to play a prank on my by installing my blower motor in his boat while I was away at work. When I got home I was totally blown away how "right" the boat looked with that motor like it was almost meant to be....
Following that, I returned to searching trying to find anything I could about this boat.
I had Googled it, Bing'd it, tried Harlin Orin, Art Anderson, Billy B and Jerry Griffin and came up empty.
The only lead we had was that "Prepared by Sano Don La Franchi"
A few more months passed before I thought of something that I never had tried before. I tried Facebook.....
What are the odds that a Sano Don would be on Facebook?

Well, I did find a Don LaFranchi and he was in the right area (San Francisco) so I took a chance and sent him a message asking if he or anyone else he might know have any knowledge of a boat that my son bought with his name on the dash.

I got a message back from him the next day say merely "if this is about the UFO II, call me at ***********"

I was blown away that after all this time I had finally found somebody that might know about the UFO II. Well, we played phonetag for a few days till one night as I was driving in the driveway I got a call on my cell.
On the line was not only Don LaFranchi but the orignial owner, Rich Laguilo!
I knew I was in heaven when the first thing Rich asked me is "do you know how famous that boat is?"

So, here's a brief rundown of what all he told me.

The boat was bought by Rich Laguilo as a bare hull from Sanger in 1977 thru Precision Speed & Marine in LA.
At that time Rich was a crew member of the Proctor Brothers Pro Stock Race Team. They were sponsored by Precision Speed & Marine, who built the blown big block for Rich.

By that time, Jack Davidson (founder of Sanger Boats) had stopped selling bare hulls to the public but had one left and would sell it thru Precision Speed to Rich. The hull had originally been ordered for a racer in the Oklahoma area but never picked up. The color was black with gold and orange stripes in the typical Sanger fashion. The hull came from Sanger with Full Stringers, a feature designed for race boats only at that time.

Bruce Halloway and Dave Bostrom, were partners in GTH Marine/GT Boats. Before they became partners, Bruce Holloway worked for Berkley Pumps and designed & manufactured all of the high performance parts for the Berkeley jets.
The UFO II was one of the first boats to test the new state of the art performance race parts installed by Bruce Holloway of GTH Marine. At that time Rich also had GTH install a Balsa cored floor.

The race parts used in the pump was a Aq shaft, stainless A impeller with a fueler cut, custom shoe and loader, double drilled bowl, long droop and race nozzle with inserts. Clearly, these were the very best of the best for the late 70's and still good stuff today. Both Bruce Halloway, Dave Bostrom and GTH have alot of history themselves in the performance boat scene.

The motor was a supercharged 468 chevy with twin dominators running 22% over.
The boat also was equiped with a Lenco multi disc cluch with air shifter to activate it (remember, this was the late 70s. State of the art stuff at the time)

Mike Farley did the paint including the pinstriping, numbering and murals. I'll be honest that at the time the name didnt ring a bell but I've since learned that Mike has painted many boats, race cars and customs and is published in a number of books. I found that he's still in business and I hope to catcha up with him sometime.

The trailer was custom built by Chuck Larkin and is completely smoothed with braided wiring, pinstiping and many custom features. The attention to detail on this trailer is incredible.

All the custom machine work, rail kits, tiller for the Calgo steering as well as the aluminum seat frames were all build by Don La Franchi. Don's a master craftsman in the Bay area and his attention to detail has earned the name Sano Don.

The boat competed in the 1979/1980 season of the ISCA circuit ultimately winning the national championship both Custom Boat as well as Competition Boat. It also won Best Interior, Best Paint and Best Competition Engine, Best Custom Engine as well as Outstanding Display.
At the time, it was so dominate that the judges began to break out the categories as many protested it. Rich still has many of the plaques and trophies and it was fun listening to him read them off on the phone.
At the time it was the champion, it was the very first jet boat to have ever won the championship.

Finally, it was time to retire the UFO II and move on to a new project, the UFO the Third! This was a Fresno Mini Cruiser with a High Performance V-Drive. This boat was also powered by a big block Chevy with three Corvette 2 bbls and a Turbo 400 transmission. I have posted a picture of that boat elsewhere on the thread and at the time I thought it was the UFO 1 but in fact it is UFO III.   The Silver boat pictured below with the UFO II is the original UFO.

The boat was taken to Folsom Lake in Roseville, California and in front of a large group, the boat was christened with a bottle of champagne and launched into the water for the first time to show a) it would float, b) it would run and c)to formally retire it from competition.

He sparingly used it for a a year or two before selling the hull to a friend for $7,000 in around 1983.

The boat disappeared after that and it's location from 1983 to 1996 when Glenn found it was unknown. What actually happened likely happens more often that not. The boat was put in storage at Topside Marine in San Jose and it stayed semi abandoned tucked away from the weather until it was pushed outside in the early 90s. Soon TopSide Marine placed a lien on the boat for past due storage fees and eventually sold the boat to Glenn in 2008 through Pat's Lien service.

So that's it. The whole story of the UFO II. Through this silly boat, my son and I have made so many new friends like Don La Franchi, Chuck Larkin and Rich Laguilo and we both consider ourselves very fortunate.

Hope you enjoyed the story. I have more but will try to hold here.

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 30, 2012, 05:55:48 am
And I HAVE to throw huge thanks to Glenn Thorne.   He hooked up Ian with the ORIGINAL pump from the UFO II.   The parts and detail are so cool and Ian owes Glenn huge.   Thanks so very much my friend!

From Ian.
After much anticipation.... the original GTH Racing pump out of the UFOII has made it home! Many huge thank yous go out the Glenn Thorne and his friend Gordy who graciously delivered it to me all the way up north in washington. Excited is an understatement!
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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 30, 2012, 06:13:45 am
After Ian got the pump from Glenn (thanks again), he spent alot of time touching up the black where it had gotten chipped.   Lightly scuffed the whole assembly and then buried it in some SPI Clear I had left over from the Brendella project to preserve the paint and most of all, the original pinstriping.

Turned out really good.....

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 30, 2012, 06:30:40 am
And here it is now.   Such a fun boat and both Ian and I are proud to have it here in the shop.

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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 17, 2013, 07:54:58 am
The rebuild/insanity has begun.  :screwy:

Updates soon. 
Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: sevans01 on November 18, 2013, 06:52:59 am

Quote from: jrork on November 17, 2013, 07:54:58 am
The rebuild/insanity has begun.  :screwy:

Updates soon.

I'm confused haha nothing new! Are you rebuilding the UFO?


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Title: Re: Sanger circle boat
Post by: jrork on November 19, 2013, 05:00:28 am
Quote from: sevans01 on November 18, 2013, 06:52:59 am
I'm confused haha nothing new! Are you rebuilding the UFO?

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Sorry, yes.....  we've begun rebuilding it.  Floors are first
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