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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 12:19:18 PM

Title: Sea strainer
Post by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 12:19:18 PM
Does anyone run these in a jet. Im thinking of getiing one to keep crud out of my chiny new motor. Im re-doing all the water lines rite now anyway. Rex marine has a nice one. Here is my before pict.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: beerjet on May 23, 2008, 12:25:24 PM
How much does it cost . Thas usually the determining factor in all fo this jetboat stuff ..

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on May 23, 2008, 12:37:09 PM
I do not have a Rex one $$. I got a strainer from McMaster and it seems to work pretty good. I will get a nice stainless one someday.
T.J.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: GAWnCA on May 23, 2008, 01:32:42 PM
How much does it cost . Thas usually the determining factor in all fo this jetboat stuff ..

-beerjet-

BJ, how does $399.99 sound to you?  Too high for my blood.   :screwy:
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: beerjet on May 23, 2008, 01:43:24 PM
BJ, how does $399.99 sound to you?  Too high for my blood.   :screwy:
Well .............. yes considering what it does , jetaholic was gonna get one  and declined because of price . I dont know if price dictates quality in this case though . Could be bad ass for the duckets . Try it out and tell uis how it works , you might change a tide , for all I know ,. gotta pic .

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on May 23, 2008, 01:43:58 PM
Here is mine. You can get an idea.

T.J.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tjsperformance.com%2Fimages%2Fwater_inlet_adapter04.jpg&hash=2e1f452554261ce5c3bf00f337a36fa0b5a99314)
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 01:44:10 PM
yea very pricy for me to but i have 15,000+ into the new motor. If 400$ :o will save me a new motor the its deffanetly worth it. thats the way i see it. crazy when you add it all up. :banghead:
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: GAWnCA on May 23, 2008, 02:02:02 PM
Well .............. yes considering what it does , jetaholic was gonna get one  and declined because of price . I dont know if price dictates quality in this case though . Could be bad ass for the duckets . Try it out and tell uis how it works , you might change a tide , for all I know ,. gotta pic .

-beerjet-

http://www.rexmar.com/page173.html  Makes for a good BLING!!!
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: GAWnCA on May 23, 2008, 02:02:56 PM
Here is mine. You can get an idea.

T.J.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tjsperformance.com%2Fimages%2Fwater_inlet_adapter04.jpg&hash=2e1f452554261ce5c3bf00f337a36fa0b5a99314)

T.J.  Where did you get yours and how much was it?  Link(s) please. 
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: GAWnCA on May 23, 2008, 02:03:56 PM
yea very pricy for me to but i have 15,000+ into the new motor. If 400$ :o will save me a new motor the its deffanetly worth it. thats the way i see it. crazy when you add it all up. :banghead:

I'll bet there is a cheaper solution, as pictured above, that will work just as well.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 23, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
A friend of mine is rebuilding a BBC blower engine and is adding a sea strainer so sand doesn't get into the intercooler. He hasn't tried it out yet.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: GAWnCA on May 23, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
A friend of mine is rebuilding a BBC blower engine and is adding a sea strainer so sand doesn't get into the intercooler. He hasn't tried it out yet.

pictures!!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 02:33:57 PM
yea i heard about blower motors needing them for the intercooler also. I personaly never noticed them on na jet boats. I see them on all the big dog offshore boats.Im gonna grab my ankels run the rex one. gotta have the bling. Ill mount it where every one can see it. It looks like it will out live me at least.lol
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on May 23, 2008, 02:38:02 PM
man you got a good looking boat.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 02:38:59 PM
tjs. Is that -10 going to the motor -8 to the dump and exhuast
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 02:41:04 PM
Thanks aquaholic so is yours.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on May 23, 2008, 04:50:23 PM
tjs. Is that -10 going to the motor -8 to the dump and exhuast

I got the strainer at McMaster. It was cheap, like 25 bucks I think. The line going to the engine is a -12 cause I have the large crossover in the front that takes a 1" NPT. The line from the pressure relief valve is -8 and the feed line (before the valve) to the banderlong is -8 as well.
Last year for the 3 times I had my boat in the water the strainer has worked good.
  T.J.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: ROMPERSTOMPER on May 23, 2008, 05:43:33 PM
Your set up is very nice. Its looks like you took your time and did it rite. Aslo you boat is bad a$$. Im gonna go with a hardin marine one Its just like the rex one but has a built in oil cooler and port for the high pressure valve.. I really dont want to do it twice like everything else Ive done on this money pit,lol. Im doing - 10 on everything for the water and not using any kind of water exhuast at all. It will be a bad a$$ set up when its done and ill post pictures when its finished. Then you can call me the one upper,lol just kidding.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: hotrod56cars on May 23, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
pictures!!!!   ;D

It's at JP Marine in Lakeside, CA.. My friend is disabled and has JP do all of his work for him. CP Gull wing, light lay-up (I think 375 lbs), bottom and top flop around just by tapping them with your hand, getting new paint and interior (now). Former river racer drag boat, Berkeley 12JG, Agressor 9 vane, Berkeley droop, race nozzle, ride plate. BBC 468 de-tuned on the dyno many many years ago from 1400 HP down to 1100 HP, getting freshened up now, and adding a intercooler.  >:D  Unfortunately I get scared in the passenger seat pretty easy and doubt I'll ever ride in it.  :D
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: maddogg20 on June 02, 2008, 12:03:59 AM
I saw those plastic strainers on dana marine, I was going to run one but they said that they were for light duty use like washdowns and showers, how has yours worked out for you? does it actually trap any sand or does it go right thru it.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on June 02, 2008, 04:48:31 AM
I saw those plastic strainers on dana marine, I was going to run one but they said that they were for light duty use like washdowns and showers, how has yours worked out for you? does it actually trap any sand or does it go right thru it.

Maddogg20,
  If you are referring to the strainer I have in the picture, yes it does trap sand and it is rated at 250psi as well. For the functionality and the price it is fine.
T.J.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: maddogg20 on June 02, 2008, 05:12:53 PM
ur talking about mcmaster carr right? I went on their site and found the water filter section but all i could find were filters with cartridges in them, not screens.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on June 02, 2008, 05:48:09 PM
I went and checked my order history on Mcmaster.
Here is the part number and I used the mesh screen for it. Sorry I stand corrected it is good for 150psi.
T.J.

9875K217
Nylon T-Strainer Clear Bowl, 3/4" NPT Female
$16.22 Each
 
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: maddogg20 on June 02, 2008, 05:52:48 PM
the smaller the numbers on the mesh the smaller the particles itll trap right?
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on June 02, 2008, 08:05:12 PM
I have 80 micron Mesh.
  T.J.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: maddogg20 on June 03, 2008, 11:18:32 PM
my strainer came today, I ordered from mcmaster. nice piece by the way :-) good call.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on June 04, 2008, 04:56:18 AM
my strainer came today, I ordered from mcmaster. nice piece by the way :-) good call.

Mad,
  For the price it works. It may not be like the 400.00 ones but it does the job. Here is a trick that I learned with this item. The O-ring needs to be glued down to the cup and then lube the O-ring with some grease. The O-ring slid around on me a couple of times. It has been fine so far after I glued it down. Good luck with it.
  T.J.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on June 30, 2008, 11:26:51 AM
WARNING WARNING WARNING.....
 
Clean your strainers everytime after use. I did not figuring it would be good for a few times at the lake. Well the other day on the lake I noticed only one header has steam. I was playing with the banderlog settings and still the same. I then played with the Watts valve, still nothing out of the right side header. I then pulled over the to sand bar and took every water line off (easy with braided lines and the AN fitting tool). The lines were perfect, not a drop of sand.
I then took the strainer off and it had some blockage. Cleaned it all out and then took the boat back out. Got nice steam out of the headers and my pressure was back to where it was supposed to be. Now I will clean it every time I go in or out.
  T.J.
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: jrork on June 30, 2008, 06:25:37 PM
T.J.  First let me say like everything you do, it's first class. 

Now for us that only through the miracle of the Pub-Lick (in respect to RonWhite) schools managed to graduate highschool but still arent the sharpest pencil in the drawer, could you please explain what all we are looking at in regards to your routing?

john

 
Here is mine. You can get an idea.

T.J.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tjsperformance.com%2Fimages%2Fwater_inlet_adapter04.jpg&hash=2e1f452554261ce5c3bf00f337a36fa0b5a99314)
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: TJS Nordic on June 30, 2008, 07:20:41 PM
Ok here you go. The main line coming in from the jet pump goes directly to the strainer. Then the little tube with the welded -8AN fitting where the -8AN line is goes to the banderlog valve. The banderlog instructions state that full pressure from the pump is required, hence I did this before the WATTs valve.
Ok now we are still at the aluminum tube section that goes to the 3/4" NPT "T" fitting. This goes to the WATTS valve. The WATTS valve has a dump -8AN line overboard. The other side of the WATTS valve -12AN goes to the inlets on the front of the block. Ok JORK, test later, get the #2 pencil out.
Here is a pic of the Banderlog valve. You can see the -8AN line coming into the valve(right side of valve) from the welded aluminum tube thingy.
 T.J.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tjsperformance.com%2Fimages%2Fwater_inlet_adapter02.jpg&hash=f1c361bb315982bc095ce280e95314b53c2ad0b6)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tjsperformance.com%2Fimages%2Fwater_inlet_adapter05.jpg&hash=564c87bb5ff5e16e30c994ff4238cac40d7c04ce)
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: jrork on July 02, 2008, 06:19:48 AM
Beautiful work as always T.J.

Now I understand. I was assuming that these devices actually regulated the water coming in but now I see, that in fact they don't and just when the "sense" extra pressure in the system above the preset limit, they bleed off pressure through the dedicated dump line.........what a maroon I am.(mispelling intentional)  :banghead:

Thanks so much for posting the pics up.........john
Title: Re: Sea strainer
Post by: realHawaiianJet on July 05, 2008, 06:30:05 PM
Right click, save as!!! ;D
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