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Title: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 28, 2007, 03:00:41 PM
Well i am starting  to do my rebuild finally  and i thought i would share with you guys the beginning to the end ;D Just kidding i know it dont end. This boat is my father in laws project that he dropped off for me to do. What a nice guy he is ;D.

 Well as you can see from the pics i got my hands full :( So any and all advice is appreciated. I think i will start by stripping the boat and carpet so i can scrub it all out real good and see what the glass and wood looks like. i know i have to fix the rear all ready, i will start that tomorrow. today is wash day, I am glad i got one of them high pressure sprayers makes it so much easier to clean off stubborn grease and stuff.

 then i will do the pump ;D

 I had to put my boat on hold so i can get this one out of my drive way.

Aren't in laws great >:D


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 28, 2007, 03:06:06 PM
this is the first thing to get fixed.


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: beerjet on August 28, 2007, 03:20:52 PM
My personal opinion is that there is a ton of resin on there . The fact that the intake is about flush with the bottom tells me that . Maybe it's got a steep V and that could do it also but the enormous puddle of resin makes me think other wise . Chip that shit out so you can see what your really workin with .

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1546.0;attach=4850;image)

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: COORS HEAVY on August 28, 2007, 03:26:48 PM
You must really like your father in law. Good luck with the resto.
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 28, 2007, 03:35:32 PM
My personal opinion is that there is a ton of resin on there . The fact that the intake is about flush with the bottom tells me that . Maybe it's got a steep V and that could do it also but the enormous puddle of resin makes me think other wise . Chip that shit out so you can see what your really workin with .

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1546.0;attach=4850;image)

-beerjet-


 That i am tackling tomorrow. Will have grinder in hand, Or is it beer? well i do have two hands ;D

And yes its pure resin i started chipping it off this morning. I will post pics as i go along, so if i am screwing something up you can tell me


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: jet boat performance on August 28, 2007, 08:34:31 PM
2sav looks like a great project good luck !Tom
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: pw_Tony on August 28, 2007, 08:52:54 PM
Are you still wondering about those heads? I could cruise by and give you a half ass opinion on them ;)
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 05:30:19 AM
I took another look, both heads are trashed. But you are welcome to come by anytime  ;D I do have a project or two going on.


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 08:02:58 AM
Cleaned it up enough atleast to get the grinder in there and see whats going on. Found some more engine parts ;D  Looks like i need to repair/replace the front seat mounts. Yep im just getting started.

 What can i use to get the old carpet glue off?


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on August 29, 2007, 08:23:34 AM
What can i use to get the old carpet glue off?

is it soft and sticky or dried up and hard?

Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 09:04:33 AM
Looks like alot of work.  :o
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 09:25:28 AM
is it soft and sticky or dried up and hard?





Its hard ;D. I think i will just try to scrape it off.


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 09:29:14 AM
Looks like alot of work.  :o










Yes its gonna be alot of work,  but i do have until next summer to get the two boats in the water :o

Atleast i get off work about 10 am every day so i gots plenty of time to work on them.


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 29, 2007, 10:16:02 AM
That Holmes hull has a cool shape to it. Good luck.
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 10:22:51 AM
That Holmes hull has a cool shape to it. Good luck.







Thanks, thats the first GOOD thing ive heard so far ;D

 The only thing that sucks is my boat is now put on hold >:( >:( >:(

2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 10:36:34 AM
The Holms family used to race there jet hulls in ski jet and comp jet. Now it does take a bit of work to make them act and perform the way most people want them to.
I would like to stop by and take a look at it if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 11:57:10 AM
The Holms family used to race there jet hulls in ski jet and comp jet. Now it does take a bit of work to make them act and perform the way most people want them to.
I would like to stop by and take a look at it if you don't mind.


You have a pm  ;D


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on August 29, 2007, 02:53:06 PM
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1546.0;attach=4850;image)
The hull is in good shape in the area of the posted pic. Someone  gelcoated the bilge, it looks as if they poured it in. Steve ground down to the fiberglass and it looks OK. He will put a couple coats of resin on it to seal it and finish his clean up.

Holly Hell that boat is wide, 2 BBFs would fit in the middle of the boat side by side.
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 29, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
Well like Jim said, were making progress. Got down n dirty today with the grinder ;D Just a little more cleaning up and i can finish it off. Really wasnt as bad as i thought it would be, cleaned up nicely.

 Now its time for a few beers and Ebay.

 Thanks again Jim.  That was way cool of you to stop by the house and give me some advice on which way to go.  If you are going to be on the river tomorrow night let me know. I wanna see that boat in person since i can hear it from my house when your running it ;D At least now i know who it is.

And yes this sum bitch is a wide Mutha >:D  More room for BEER.


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on August 31, 2007, 05:17:51 PM
Last two day's i have been scraping glue and carpet. I think im half way there. NOT ;D



2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: rebel on August 31, 2007, 07:54:26 PM
Just like to add one thing before you carry on sanding any more...

DUST MASK
this safety message brought to you by your SoCal safety commity
you may now continue with yoru regular activities.

keep up the good work ;)

Rebel
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: crewchief22 on August 31, 2007, 08:19:33 PM
Just like to add one thing before you carry on sanding any more...

DUST MASK
this safety message brought to you by your SoCal safety commity
you may now continue with yoru regular activities.

keep up the good work ;)

Rebel

Good Idea,

My dad past away a couple years ago after 10 years of breathing problems.
He had been an automotive and RV mechanic for years and was told his lung problems were "environmental emphysema" caused by the paint, glues and other cleaners he was in contact with for most of his life.  Kind of sucks for someone who didn't smoke!

Better safe...
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on September 01, 2007, 11:44:25 AM
Thanks guy's im one up on ya ;D There is no way to do it otherwise, you cant breath and i allready have asthma ( just found out) I have my wife bring me home a bunch of masks from work. Well i got to get back out there and start striping some more glue off. Just found another crack in the floor. I wonder whats next? Maybe i will find some money ;D Ya right!


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on September 01, 2007, 06:50:25 PM
Well im thinking of pulling the gas tank out  and just wanted to know. Do they just glass these at the rear or is it glassed all around?

 And i spent another day scraping carpet off. But does not look like im making progress. BUT I AM ;D


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 01, 2007, 09:11:13 PM
Both the Rogers and the Miller that I had , both had twin saddle tanks and they were both glassed in at the bottom with two ~10" X ~10" pieces of fiberglass mat. The tops of the tanks were held in by the hose connecting to the fuel fill necks. When I got the Miller the tanks were out of it and I glassed them in the way I just mentioned. They never came loose but I only had it for a couple of months.
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: GAWnCA on September 01, 2007, 09:30:05 PM
Both the Rogers and the Miller that I had , both had twin saddle tanks and they were both glassed in at the bottom with two ~10" X ~10" pieces of fiberglass mat. The tops of the tanks were held in by the hose connecting to the fuel fill necks. When I got the Miller the tanks were out of it and I glassed them in the way I just mentioned. They never came loose but I only had it for a couple of months.

You got rid of the Miller?  I think I'm going to like mine....  Sort of reminds me of a '23 "T" for the water!  :D  Even with a rag top!
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 02, 2007, 10:13:31 AM
I bought and fixed up my MIller with the intention of reselling it. You can see a picture here

http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,984.25.html

of how I installed the gas tanks (about half way down the page). One spot towards the front of the tank and one spot towards the rear of the tank were glassed in using large squares of fiberglass mat and also a piece of wood moulding that I had laying around the house. Mat, moulding, mat is how it was layed.

Damn straight, jet boats are hot rods on the water.   ;D
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: bkplesh on September 03, 2007, 06:58:41 AM
Damn straight, jet boats are hot rods on the water.   ;D
hahahaha that's funny  >:D
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on September 03, 2007, 10:33:02 AM
OK its out  Thanks Rod. That was easy money ;D Now what do you use to flush it out? i filled it with water and it dont look to dirty in there. And what do i use to seal the top where the float goes in. Its leaking there.  Silicon?  Well i have to put everything on hold now, the twins are having a birthday in a couple days so i gots to put a swing set together :o Cant get nothing done with so many side tracks going on ;D Chit!

 I did get some new wood done, well i mean sealed its just set in there for now, and dont know if you can see the crack but look close, Its looong but i dont think its a big deal. I got plenty of resin and glass ;D

 Well got to go play with a swing set. This is gonna be fun.


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 03, 2007, 10:48:38 AM
You're welcome, just stop blaming the twins because you want a swing set to play with.  :D  I flushed my gas tanks out with water, let them sit upside down in the sun for a few hours, and then sprayed a sh!tload of WD-40 in there. My tanks were steel and I'm sure the WD-40 was a waiste of time and resources.  :P  I wouldn't try to seal the gas gauge sending unit with silicone. New sending unit's come with a gasket, made of rubber if I remember correctly. Get some gasket material from Kragen or where ever and put a couple of paper gaskets in there, unless you have some rubber laying around, I dunno, say an old bicycle inner tube?  ;D  I can't see any cracks  in your pictures and by the size of that off road tire in the first pic
how big is your boat?
 ;D
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on September 03, 2007, 12:13:29 PM
Where can i get a new sending unit?


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 03, 2007, 01:40:00 PM
Where can i get a new sending unit?
2sav

You should be able to get a universal fuel gauge sending unit allmost anywhere, try your local Kragen/Chiefs/AutoZone, etc...
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: crewchief22 on September 03, 2007, 02:05:47 PM
Chiefs? 

Your dating yourself  ;D
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: hotrod56cars on September 03, 2007, 02:25:31 PM
Chiefs? 

Your dating yourself  ;D

Ah sh!t, you're right.  :D
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on September 08, 2007, 03:19:50 PM
Project is done ;D

 I am through with it. Selling the parts and sinking the boat :o  Just kiding.





2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: pw_Tony on September 08, 2007, 10:25:26 PM
Oh NO! Not the plattipuss!!
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on September 09, 2007, 12:57:02 PM
Oh NO! Not the plattipuss!!



Yes the Plattipuss ;D



2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on December 07, 2007, 05:37:52 PM
Well im glad i didnt cut out the intake cause its going back to Cali ;D  Yes i will be free from the Platipuss ;D Christmas day its going away and GOOD RIDDENS. I spent the last two days puting this thing back together again Now im done and enjoying a nice cold one ;)  Everyone say goodbye :o Woo Hoo >:D


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2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: HDriderTH on December 07, 2007, 06:15:23 PM


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2sav
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Kool plate
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on December 07, 2007, 06:18:13 PM

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2sav




Kool plate




Funny you say that.

When i was bolting it back on yesturday i seen the HD and thought about you :o


Weird ;D

2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: HDriderTH on December 07, 2007, 07:04:52 PM
dont let that plate go anywhere...........talk to you later
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: pw_Tony on December 07, 2007, 07:08:45 PM
What kind of carb is that?
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on December 08, 2007, 08:33:36 AM
What kind of carb is that?

Titanium housing with liquid drip,1280 CFM.  Ported and polished bowls. Retails for $3,600 ;D

Funny thing is, It looks just like the Motorcraft that came off my Big Boy 460 ;)


2sav ::)
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: GlassCutter on December 08, 2007, 10:27:37 AM
That hull look nearly identical to my '72 Horizon. Do you know any history on either company?  Apologies now for the thread jack.   :-*
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: 2savage4you on December 09, 2007, 06:21:12 AM
That hull look nearly identical to my '72 Horizon. Do you know any history on either company?  Apologies now for the thread jack.   :-*


No sorry i dont.    But i think  Jim Rich knows alittle about them ???

Thread Jack ???  This thing is history anyways  jack it all you want ;D  J/K


2sav
Title: Re: Starting my 1970 Holmes project rebuild
Post by: MNJET on July 05, 2010, 01:36:19 PM
I just bought a 1976 Holmes Horizon 19' ad would also like any info on the history of the company
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