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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: 2savage4you on January 20, 2008, 07:39:50 AM

Title: What grade bolt
Post by: 2savage4you on January 20, 2008, 07:39:50 AM
Do you use to hang your engine on the stand with ???  Gonna go get some bolts today and looking for a heads up on what everyone uses.

2sav
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: jrork on January 20, 2008, 07:53:18 AM
I've always used Grade 5, mostly because that was what I had available and they are plenty strong backed up with a very thick washer.  Never had a problem.

I've attached a link below that will help you chose.

Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: jet boat performance on January 20, 2008, 08:01:37 AM
I've always used Grade 5, mostly because that was what I had available and they are plenty strong backed up with a very thick washer.  Never had a problem.

I've attached a link below that will help you chose.


Honestly Johns right ,whatever bolts we can find in the Bin possibly More important is the stand itself ,alot of stands arent rated for a fullgrown BBC Ive got close to a dozen stands some are only good to 750  :o
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: 2savage4you on January 20, 2008, 08:18:13 AM
Mine's rated for 2000 lbs ;D

Big boy stuff.   Thanks guy's im on my way to the hardware store now.

2sav
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: jrork on January 20, 2008, 04:47:53 PM
Honestly Johns right ,whatever bolts we can find in the Bin possibly More important is the stand itself ,alot of stands arent rated for a fullgrown BBC Ive got close to a dozen stands some are only good to 750  :o

Oh man, bring up a bad memory why don't you.

12 years ago as I was rolling my fresh motor to drop into the coupe that I had just finished painting, the cheap azz stand tipped......I tried to catch it for a second and then just let it go....while I walked out of the garage cuz I didnt want to see what happened.  About an hour later I walked in.  Manifold broke, dist broke, valve cover busted, timing cover and gear busted......

It's not the bolts but the stand.  Mine is a way bad mofo, made in the USA rig now.  Sounds like you've got a good one Sav.
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: pw_Tony on January 20, 2008, 05:15:59 PM

12 years ago as I was rolling my fresh motor to drop into the coupe that I had just finished painting, the cheap azz stand tipped......I tried to catch it for a second and then just let it go....while I walked out of the garage cuz I didnt want to see what happened.  About an hour later I walked in.  Manifold broke, dist broke, valve cover busted, timing cover and gear busted......


That sucks, I've done the same thing.... but it was for  a customers motor
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: jrork on January 20, 2008, 05:21:02 PM
That sucks, I've done the same thing.... but it was for  a customers motor

You know, since I've done that and mentioned it to folks you cant believe how  many have said they've had it happen to them.

 I can't even imagine having that happen to a customers motor....ouch :o :o :o
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: GlassCutter on January 20, 2008, 05:40:31 PM
Question:  How come no one builds a motor stand with four or five wheels like every office chair on the planet?

If it can keep fat ass secretaries from hitting the floor cuz they weren't paying attention it seems like it would be a better way to go for motors too.  I bet every guy that ever dropped a motor would immediately buy one.  Damn did I say that out loud?  I want a commission bitches!
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: 2savage4you on January 20, 2008, 05:57:25 PM
Question:  How come no one builds a motor stand with four or five wheels like every office chair on the planet?

If it can keep fat ass secretaries from hitting the floor cuz they weren't paying attention it seems like it would be a better way to go for motors too.  I bet every guy that ever dropped a motor would immediately buy one.  Damn did I say that out loud?  I want a commission bitches!



Mine has five wheels on it ;D

Four for the stand and one for the wheelie's
2sav
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: FORKEDUP on January 20, 2008, 08:15:58 PM
can't spin it, but it will never drop my motor and easy to move around
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: GAWnCA on January 20, 2008, 08:41:26 PM
can't spin it, but it will never drop my motor and easy to move around

Might be nice to be able to sit down to work on the motor too.  My engine stand, even with the BBF on it could be cut down some and it would still spin the motor and you could work from a stool.
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: pw_Tony on January 20, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
Might be nice to be able to sit down to work on the motor too.  My engine stand, even with the BBF on it could be cut down some and it would still spin the motor and you could work from a stool.

You lazy ass lol  :D
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: GAWnCA on January 20, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
You lazy ass lol  :D

Really bad back and it would be a little easier on this old man to be able to work over the top of the motor.  Not lazy just hate taking all the breaks to let the back rest.   :-\
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: rebel on January 21, 2008, 12:58:33 AM
Really bad back and it would be a little easier on this old man to be able to work over the top of the motor.  Not lazy just hate taking all the breaks to let the back rest.   :-\

I hear ya... I'm the same way  :-\  one hour of hard can turn into a 2 hour stretching session just to get moving again. ::)

I've over built my shop engine lift and added adjustable legs to add ballance when needed. I once started lifting the front end of my 76 Ford
F150 4x4 off the ground when I was trying to remove 390 motor and tranny...  forgot to remove motor mount bolts first  ::)   lol.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi216.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc103%2Fgixxer-squid%2Fpumpremoval.jpg&hash=aab514cebef7b7b96fddb1d842ade5c84a4699fa)

For the price difference between grade 5 to grade 8...   for lifting!   I'd get the grade 8 bolt and washer!  ;)   Overkill is still cheaper than broken parts!
Never know when you'll find that defective grade 5 bolt made in china in your collection  :o
...and don't forget to use grade 80 or better chain too!  Ooooh, and some alloy grab hooks while your at it.  :D

-Rebel
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: GAWnCA on January 21, 2008, 06:58:33 AM
I hear ya... I'm the same way  :-\  one hour of hard can turn into a 2 hour stretching session just to get moving again. ::)

I've over built my shop engine lift and added adjustable legs to add ballance when needed. I once started lifting the front end of my 76 Ford
F150 4x4 off the ground when I was trying to remove 390 motor and tranny...  forgot to remove motor mount bolts first  ::)   lol.

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi216.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc103%2Fgixxer-squid%2Fpumpremoval.jpg&hash=aab514cebef7b7b96fddb1d842ade5c84a4699fa)

For the price difference between grade 5 to grade 8...   for lifting!   I'd get the grade 8 bolt and washer!  ;)   Overkill is still cheaper than broken parts!
Never know when you'll find that defective grade 5 bolt made in china in your collection  :o
...and don't forget to use grade 80 or better chain too!  Ooooh, and some alloy grab hooks while your at it.  :D

-Rebel


Hey Reb,

You should put that battery on a block of wood or something to get it off the ground like it is.  :) 
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: crewchief22 on January 21, 2008, 01:02:53 PM
I had a factory lift hook pull out of the cylinder head on a Toyota 4 cylinder going into my 4x.  Fell about 4 feet and broke and oil pan size hole in my asphalt driveway.
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: UNDONE on January 21, 2008, 02:03:59 PM
How long ago was that toyota 4 cyl incident? I was at Teague Custom Marine, they had one of their monster 540's with 1471 blower sitting on a stand. One of the employees left the pin on his tool box and the sucker turned upside down when they went to move it. JUST missed another mechanic and smashed the Carbs/top of blower. This all happened right before I walked into the shop. Got there just in time to see everyone run over to it...
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: crewchief22 on January 21, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
How long ago was that toyota 4 cyl incident?

1988.  I was getting ready to install the engine into my 83 4x4, rolling the cherry picker toward the truck and caught a crack in the asphalt, bounced the engine and pulled the bolts out of the head for the factory lift hook.  >:(

I guess I'm lucky it was not over the core support at the time  ;D
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: UNDONE on January 22, 2008, 03:44:09 PM
or over a part of you!!!
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: crewchief22 on January 22, 2008, 09:45:41 PM
 :o  No Sh*t!
Title: Re: What grade bolt
Post by: UNDONE on January 23, 2008, 08:09:25 AM
My buddy went to go pull a big ass Detroit Diesel out of a semi with his cherry picker... The arm just bent as he forced the ram to try to lift it. Then we used the picker to pull my BBC out of my old boat. good times, good times.
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