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Title: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 23, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Finally got all the bugs worked out of the programs...

Kona...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FWJ-KONA.jpg&hash=5d80880b20b8513c8fbe7f8c0db77fd9ff191cc6)

Tahiti...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FP4230018.jpg&hash=48d81de103e13f22b20cad1e65235e437badecd0)

Nordic...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FP4230017.jpg&hash=77837fc8afabfb518712d3b902439fcf1254a123)

They are 1/8" aluminum, and they will polish up really nice.
My Kona badge polished-up...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FPicture034.jpg&hash=d7af760f2e0f468e5328e9ece0e1fcc9ab4d0516)


Price is $75.00 per pair including shipping by USPS. 

I can do a decent repop of any badge.  Super intricate detail won't work, but let me know what you need.

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 78centurian on April 23, 2009, 04:55:28 PM
bad ass bro.....nice work
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: IRRebel on April 23, 2009, 05:49:54 PM
Dunno if mine ever even had any, but Sleekcraft?

I'll pull off a Biesemeyer one for you to pattern as well if you want, just want it back, lol

Ray
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 23, 2009, 05:54:39 PM
P-Jet ya couldnt get the Nordic dragon on there ???  Too intricate ???   The badges look awesome ;D  Nice work    Mark
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: LBsuperjet on April 23, 2009, 06:36:46 PM
oh wow i want a pair of the nordics!!!

Reid
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 23, 2009, 07:08:32 PM
Hey Mark, you still in for the first set of Nordics?

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: sandeggo on April 23, 2009, 10:04:27 PM
are you using a edm for these?
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: bertus on April 23, 2009, 10:47:17 PM
R u interested in making a set of crusader badges?
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 24, 2009, 05:19:25 AM
Quote from: sandeggo on April 23, 2009, 10:04:27 PM
are you using a edm for these?
no, waterjet

Quote from: bertus on April 23, 2009, 10:47:17 PM
R u interested in making a set of crusader badges?
sure, I just need a picture with some dimensions or maybe someone has an emblem they could send me to measure.  Price will be the same.

Quote from: IRRebel on April 23, 2009, 05:49:54 PM
Dunno if mine ever even had any, but Sleekcraft?
I'll pull off a Biesemeyer one for you to pattern as well if you want
Ray, as I recall, Sleek Craft (Nescher) had a script emblem w/ a V between the words...Biesemeyer is script.  I just need a picture with some dimensions or maybe someone has an emblem they could send me to measure.  Price will be the same.

thx
p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: sandeggo on April 24, 2009, 06:43:10 AM
very nice!

nice signature too
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on April 24, 2009, 07:03:39 AM
i have one and a half badge on my boat. i was just going to remove them but if you could make some  CRUSADER ones i would buy a set. ;D
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Luckie Stiff on April 24, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
Can you make me one like this?
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flib.store.yahoo.net%2Flib%2Fgoldmountainmining%2Fdeputy-sheriff-badge.jpg&hash=acace114f1587bf50200ac66fcf0f640bbc5446a)
 ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, those badges look good Frank.
Skip


Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 24, 2009, 07:50:21 AM
Ya Pj im in for the first pair
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: bertus on April 24, 2009, 09:36:11 AM
aquaholic if you can send him the badges ill buy you a set ;).  I would much rather had the original badges than to just make some up.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: crusader1983 on April 24, 2009, 10:34:44 AM
I'm in for crusader badges if he can make them.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 24, 2009, 11:52:47 AM
Get me a Crusader badge or a good quality picture with detailed dimensions, and I will start drawing.

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on April 24, 2009, 12:37:09 PM
picture it is. but my boat is at the interior shop for a couple more weeks. i will see if i can swing up there this weekend and take some pics of the badge. i have one complete one on the left side of my boat and the one on my right side was broken in half.

anyway i will see what i can do.

thanks again
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: crusader1983 on April 24, 2009, 02:20:16 PM
I have 2 good badges on my boat plus I just found a pic on their website I will try to post it here or send it to you.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: crusader1983 on April 24, 2009, 02:22:31 PM
ok here is the pic from their website.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 24, 2009, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: crusader1983 on April 24, 2009, 02:22:31 PM
ok here is the pic from their website.

Well the rabbit may not work, too detailed, but I would like to see a better picture of it to know for sure.  Same reason I could not get the dragon on the Nordic badge.  The "CRUSADER" text should not be a problem and I will make it look good.  The "custom boats Anaheim" will not work at all...but I can not use that picture.  The best way to go is if you have an emblem, send it to me and I will scan it.  The next best way is you scan it and send the picture to me with detailed dimensions.

p-jet

Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on April 24, 2009, 03:56:29 PM
ya that is what mine looks like. if we cant use all the detail of the stock one i would think it would be better to make the CRUSADER a bit larger to cover the areas that were coverd by the extra info on the old stock badge.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 24, 2009, 05:32:58 PM
Quote from: AQUAHOLIC on April 24, 2009, 03:56:29 PM
ya that is what mine looks like. if we cant use all the detail of the stock one i would think it would be better to make the CRUSADER a bit larger to cover the areas that were coverd by the extra info on the old stock badge.

not a problem. give me a dimension between screw holes and I can make it fit.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: bertus on April 25, 2009, 05:37:07 PM
i will buy a set as well. 
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: kohensdad on April 25, 2009, 07:26:01 PM
Frank, I'm down for a set of the Tahiti badges.  Oh and I'm really sorry about taking my sweet ass time with the scoop :banghead:  I'll get it to ya soon!
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on April 25, 2009, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: bertus on April 25, 2009, 05:37:07 PM
i will buy a set as well. 

Get me a badge or a scanned picture of one so I can get started.


p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: bertus on April 25, 2009, 09:32:17 PM
I need a set of the crusader badge that you end up making.  If you can make me the one that is displayed in the picture without the rabbit that would be rad.  Im guessing a normal size would be 5" wide by 2" tall?? 
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on May 23, 2009, 06:07:25 AM
Hey, WTF happened to all the guys who said they would buy a badge??  I invested a lot of my personal time and money into these.

lesson learned.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 76 Bonneville on May 23, 2009, 06:31:43 AM
Sounds like a policy change is order, cash up front for design time on new badges.

Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on May 23, 2009, 06:52:46 AM
exactly...like I said lesson learned.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: osbo68 on May 27, 2009, 07:04:38 PM
Hey Poverty I love those nordic badges... Can you give me the dimensions on them.. I would love a set for Lil' Squirt but need the size to see if I can find a good spot... Let me know when you get a chance.. I'll take my cover off tomorrow and look for a good spot... Thx Andrew.. ;D
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on May 28, 2009, 04:39:58 AM
I need a close-up, straight on picture of DiMarco, Hawaiian and Howard badges.

thx
p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 28, 2009, 06:14:22 AM
Quote from: povertyjet on May 28, 2009, 04:39:58 AM
I need a close-up, straight on picture of DiMarco, Hawaiian and Howard badges.

thx
p-jet

do you need the logos or the actual badge? i can get vector images of them, let me know what file format you need.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: RiverLizard85 on May 28, 2009, 02:07:28 PM
If anyone can find the CLASSIC Hawaiian boats logo or artwork, let me know. I will FOR SURE compensate you for your design time as well as a half up front if you need me too. I've looked around for some sort of logo or badge affiliated with Hawaiian Boats (before they became the crappy incorporated company that they are now) and I can't find anything anywhere. I have a 77 Hawaiian Mini Day so something from that era would be great!!

I couldn't find the badges so my girlfriend made a decal instead; for the back of my truck (the font style is not the original though)

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh94%2FRiver_Lizard%2Fsticker.jpg&hash=ca1913305b096074b4423c4a1e3e1f4528dbd7ab)
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 28, 2009, 04:27:15 PM
what does the classic hawaiian logo look like vs the one you see on most of the boats?
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on May 28, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on May 28, 2009, 04:27:15 PM
what does the classic hawaiian logo look like vs the one you see on most of the boats?

I have searched the board, but I have not seen that yet Brad...got a picture?


p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: RiverLizard85 on May 29, 2009, 09:33:05 AM
I can't seem to find logos for either one.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on May 29, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
...two more badges being cut.

old Sanger
I need dimensions for this badge, height and length please...
[attach=1]

Centurion
Which one  do you like better, the solid badge (like original style) with the letters cut out, or the outline letter style?

[attach=2]

thanks,

p-jet

Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Ralph Brunt on May 30, 2009, 06:25:16 AM
Quote from: povertyjet on May 29, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
...two more badges being cut.

old Sanger
I need dimensions for this badge, height and length please...
(Attachment Link)

Centurion
Which one  do you like better, the solid badge (like original style) with the letters cut out, or the outline letter style?

(Attachment Link)

thanks,

p-jet

i dont know if i would do the sanger badge, they are still in business and you might get sued ???
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on May 31, 2009, 05:57:57 AM
Thanks Ralph,
If you can get a vintage style badge from any builder, buy it...otherwise I am here to help.

p-jet 

Howard is next...

still looking for DiMarco, Hawaiian and Caribbean.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on May 31, 2009, 08:33:17 PM
i have removed my crusader badges where do you want me to send them. and what will be the turn around to get a set
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Baja and Bust on May 31, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
Off subject but hey Frank...  Thanks for the rudder!  Good talking to you yesterday.  I'll let you know how it works out.   :)
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: NAFLASH on June 01, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
what about a spectra20 badge?
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 01, 2009, 08:23:39 PM
Howard in the works...

[attach=1]

If any has a size on this badge, I would appreciate it.

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 03, 2009, 04:33:58 AM
New Hawaiian...

[attach=1]

This style was adapted from a 1975 brochure.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 04, 2009, 09:33:03 PM
Quote from: AQUAHOLIC on May 31, 2009, 08:33:17 PM
i have removed my crusader badges where do you want me to send them. and what will be the turn around to get a set

Tony, badges got here today.  I had no idea these badges are plastic...they are horrible.  I am going make the new badges a little bigger, and see what I can do about the rabbit...you won't be disappointed.

thx
frank
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on June 04, 2009, 10:07:03 PM
i dont even like the rabit. scew him ;D. anyway ya they are bad now you see why i want some new ones stat. as long as it covers he holes in my hull from the old badges i am cool with whatever you do.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Baja and Bust on June 04, 2009, 10:22:34 PM
Hey Frank,

Those Hawaiian badges look SICK!  How much for a pair?  I have a friend who just bought a '76 mini cruiser and he's doin a bunch of work on it.  Probably won't take much convincing for him to swoop 'em from you.  Thanks

ps - that was hilarious about the "Big Daddy's.  We basically traded a rudder for a couple floats...  Works for me!   ;D  Takin the boat out on Sunday, let you know how it goes.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 07, 2009, 09:27:35 PM
Thanks for the use of your badge Tony...

[attach=1]

This just the art.  Next step is to see if the programming is right.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: GT Jets on June 07, 2009, 09:38:10 PM
May need some of those Crusader dealio's, gotta talk to the old man to he if he wants to drill a few more holes.. ;D

GT
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 19, 2009, 02:01:04 PM
Crusader, Centurion and Hawaiian badges are cut and available...

[attach=1]   [attach=2]   [attach=3]

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: alamojimmy on June 19, 2009, 02:19:57 PM
They look great man. Good work.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on June 19, 2009, 03:28:36 PM
cant wait to get them on
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 4EST PERFORMANCE on June 26, 2009, 05:58:54 AM
Quote from: povertyjet on April 23, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Finally got all the bugs worked out of the programs...

Kona...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FWJ-KONA.jpg&hash=5d80880b20b8513c8fbe7f8c0db77fd9ff191cc6)

Tahiti...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FP4230018.jpg&hash=48d81de103e13f22b20cad1e65235e437badecd0)

Nordic...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FP4230017.jpg&hash=77837fc8afabfb518712d3b902439fcf1254a123)

They are 1/8" aluminum, and they will polish up really nice.
My Kona badge polished-up...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FPicture034.jpg&hash=d7af760f2e0f468e5328e9ece0e1fcc9ab4d0516)


Price is $75.00 per pair including shipping by USPS. 

I can do a decent repop of any badge.  Super intricate detail won't work, but let me know what you need.

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 4EST PERFORMANCE on June 26, 2009, 05:59:33 AM
Quote from: povertyjet on April 23, 2009, 04:52:49 PM
Finally got all the bugs worked out of the programs...

Kona...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FWJ-KONA.jpg&hash=5d80880b20b8513c8fbe7f8c0db77fd9ff191cc6)

Tahiti...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FP4230018.jpg&hash=48d81de103e13f22b20cad1e65235e437badecd0)

Nordic...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FP4230017.jpg&hash=77837fc8afabfb518712d3b902439fcf1254a123)

They are 1/8" aluminum, and they will polish up really nice.
My Kona badge polished-up...

(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi467.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Frr40%2Fpovertyjet%2FPicture034.jpg&hash=d7af760f2e0f468e5328e9ece0e1fcc9ab4d0516)


Price is $75.00 per pair including shipping by USPS. 

I can do a decent repop of any badge.  Super intricate detail won't work, but let me know what you need.

p-jet
do you have a pairof centurion badges in stock?
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: koyota93 on June 26, 2009, 09:25:46 AM
I took a better pic of the Howard Emblem. Forgot to measure the distance between the holes.
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg310%2Fkoyota93%2FHoward%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=76914ba6dd847fefb8472a181134afdbf336dd29)
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 26, 2009, 05:49:53 PM
Latest addition, Howard badge

[attach=1]
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on June 26, 2009, 06:42:48 PM
The Nordic badges look badass Frank.  Just need a little more time.     Mark
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 28, 2009, 06:21:04 PM
Can anyone throw me a couple of dimensions for Biesemeyer?

[attach=1]

thx
p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: djleighk15 on June 30, 2009, 06:42:03 PM
Does anyone happen to have a pic of the Omega badges or logo.  I know its in script writing.  Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: marceldawson70 on July 03, 2009, 06:25:58 PM
 Hey can you do cheetah badges? I dont even know what they should look like!  so it prob. wont matter! Marcel..
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: 76 Bonneville on July 06, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
Frank, here's the older version of the Rogers emblem. Sorry dont have a newer one.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Marcsrollin on July 06, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
What about eliminator?
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: GlassCutter on July 07, 2009, 08:45:39 AM
If there is interest in doing one for a Wreidt, I got a model you can work from already loose.   Let p-jet know.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on July 07, 2009, 05:32:24 PM
Quote from: 76 Bonneville on July 06, 2009, 08:19:23 PM
Frank, here's the older version of the Rogers emblem. Sorry dont have a newer one.

Thanks Ron, I will still use it cause I think the script is the same.

Quote from: GlassCutter on July 07, 2009, 08:45:39 AM
If there is interest in doing one for a Wreidt, I got a model you can work from already loose.   Let p-jet know.


Great!!! just take a close-up, straight-on pic of it and send it along with some dimensions to me.

thanks
p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on July 07, 2009, 07:28:18 PM
i was going to put mine on this weekend but after holding them up to my hull i decided that they would look better painted. so i am going to put some color on them and then install them the next time i am at the river. the 17th if any of you want to come join me
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on July 21, 2009, 04:30:11 AM
Latest art...

[attach=1]   [attach=2]
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Marcsrollin on July 21, 2009, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: Marcsrollin on July 06, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
What about eliminator?

????????
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on July 22, 2009, 04:12:37 AM
Quote from: GlassCutter on July 07, 2009, 08:45:39 AM
If there is interest in doing one for a Wreidt, I got a model you can work from already loose.   Let p-jet know.

I will add it to the collection...get me a scanned or close-up, straight-on pic of the badge.



Quote from: Marcsrollin on July 06, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
What about eliminator?

Sure, if the badge you are looking for is no longer available from the manufacturer, get me a close-up, straight-on pic of the badge you want.


thx
p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on July 29, 2009, 04:26:39 AM
latest

[attach=1]

[attach=2]
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: riser39 on July 29, 2009, 10:32:08 AM
Those emblem's look awesome.  I can't believe the detail that you are able to provide.

keep up the good work!!!


Steve
Title: top secret stuff
Post by: povertyjet on August 02, 2009, 03:57:20 PM
Thanks Steve,
I am working on more custom waterjet/engraved/milled goodies with boat emblems on them.

p-jet
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: hydraslide22 on August 06, 2009, 06:00:16 AM
I got a set of Tahiti bages from frank, and they are pretty trick.. Good work Frank..

Thanks,
happy jet boat customer east of the Mississippi...
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on August 06, 2009, 04:36:08 PM
Quote from: hydraslide22 on August 06, 2009, 06:00:16 AM
I got a set of Tahiti bages from frank, and they are pretty trick.. Good work Frank..

Thanks,
happy jet boat customer east of the Mississippi...

Thanks for the love David...if you have not already polished them, polish them facedown on a piece of wet 1000 grit first.  oh and pics of them mounted

Frank
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: farmergord on June 19, 2010, 02:07:11 PM
do you have them for Pioneer
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: OC2Vegas on June 19, 2010, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: farmergord on June 19, 2010, 02:07:11 PM
do you have them for Pioneer

Go over to PeformanceBoat and send him a PM, he is on there more then here. Hasnt been on here in over 3 months.
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: Nordie on June 20, 2010, 01:36:16 AM
honestly i was wondering about ol' p-jet....if you can hear me say something  :screwy:
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: povertyjet on July 07, 2010, 04:09:13 AM
Did you guys miss me??  I'm getting a little misty eyed...
Title: Re: New Badges Are Here!!
Post by: mash on it on July 07, 2010, 07:17:33 PM
Looking for old school Eliminator (day cruiser) badges, decals were long gone...
Thanks
Daniel
Mash on it
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