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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: Squirrel Master on April 07, 2014, 02:44:02 PM

Title: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: Squirrel Master on April 07, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
On my way to west marine bilge coat for bilge or gel coat for coating
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: ka0tyk on April 07, 2014, 02:54:37 PM
i used bilge kote by interlux.  i have 0 gelcoat skills. it was easy to work with.  use a brush and paint it on.  just make sure you clean EVERYTHING first.  wipe with some acetone, etc.  and make sure you have plenty of ventilation.  the fumes are very intense.

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this dude friscojarrets has a VERY lengthy youtube channel where he rebuilds his sea ray from a bare hull.  heres his take on bilgekote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkaOJ82BNA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdkaOJ82BNA)
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: jyeager on April 07, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
Gel coat you would also want to use half clear and gel coat = flow coat. It takes no skill to do it that way. it lays down super flat and easy to spray.
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: Your Mom on April 07, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
The wax is the most important additive. It settles at the top of the gel preventing oxygen causing complete hardness to top. Make sure not to go over any epoxy...will not dry. I rolled my entire inside of hull will 1/2 nap mini rollers. Gave it a nice light textured finish. I did two coats.
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Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: Squirrel Master on April 07, 2014, 06:16:30 PM
Thanks guys going with bilge coat this boat is a stepping stone to the ultimate prize GW so tooo much effort i have a schedule to meet
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: steves86ta on April 09, 2014, 10:16:17 AM
The wax is the most important additive. It settles at the top of the gel preventing oxygen causing complete hardness to top. Make sure not to go over any epoxy...will not dry. I rolled my entire inside of hull will 1/2 nap mini rollers. Gave it a nice light textured finish. I did two coats.
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Did you carpet over the gel?
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: jyeager on April 09, 2014, 10:29:17 AM

The wax is the most important additive. It settles at the top of the gel preventing oxygen causing complete hardness to top. Make sure not to go over any epoxy...will not dry. I rolled my entire inside of hull will 1/2 nap mini rollers. Gave it a nice light textured finish. I did two coats.
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If you use a half clear Prestec gel half gelcoat it will air cure and will lay down super nice and smooth. Just sayin..


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Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: steves86ta on April 09, 2014, 10:31:37 AM
Hey Jake,

If you do that, what are Gel's filling properties? Meaning how much sanding/prep would one have to do with the fiberglass before it is ready?
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: Your Mom on April 09, 2014, 11:34:09 AM
I gelled up to areas where I then carpeted. The wax additive worked killer... it kept the air from the top layer making a solid hard finish easy to sand or whatever. I use the additive with my resin or a piece of wax paper for small repairs with same results. Resin or gel needs to be protected from the oxygen for complete top dry. Haven't tried your method but it has to be some sort of wax additive... Prep consisted of a good cleaning then light sand, wash/wipe down. Dont do any repairs with epoxy as the gel wont dry over it. Marglass is quick and drys fast for small non structural areas. The hardest part was timing the amount to use/vrs dry time. I used about a half qt of gel at a time doing sections in that order.
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: jetinator on April 09, 2014, 01:32:37 PM
Is there a reason to bilge coat other than looks?
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: steves86ta on April 09, 2014, 01:40:55 PM
Is there a reason to bilge coat other than looks?

i would assume easier cleanup too
Title: Re: bilge coat vs gel coat
Post by: ka0tyk on April 09, 2014, 01:47:03 PM
Is there a reason to bilge coat other than looks?

oil and gas doesn't stain.  try leaving oil on porous gel-coat.  if i did my bilge in white gel it would be brown in 2 minutes.  super easy cleanup.  granted my bilge doesnt see a drop of water let alone any oil... but ive seen some bilges posted around here... dirty dirty dirty.
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