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Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« on: March 19, 2008, 09:25:02 PM »
CARB PROPOSES PLAN TO ESTABLISH NEW EXHAUST EMISSIONS REGULATIONS FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE (OVER 500 HP) INBOARD/STERNDRIVE ENGINES

Following the CARB (California Air Resources Board) public workshop meeting of March 18, 2008, plans have been set in motion to establish new exhaust emissions regulations on high performance over 500 horsepower) marine gasoline inboard/sterndrive engines to become effective as of January 1, 2009 in California. Please be aware that the proposed standards (presented in summarized form) outlined below are not final until the CARB Board meets and votes upon the entire set of regulations on July 24, 2008.

1. CARB staff recommends that the current standard of 5.0 g/kW-hr NMHC+NOx for marine inboard engines under 500 HP be relaxed and amended for engines in excess of 500 HP. The new proposed standards are:\
-- engines 500 to 650 HP...........16.0 HC+NOx
-- engines 650 Hp and above...25.0 HC+NOx (2009 & 2010)
-- engines 650 Hp and above...22.0 HC+NOx (2011 and later)

2. In addition, there will also be a new standard for carbon monoxide emission. All engines over 500 HP will have a maximum carbon monoxide level of 350 grams per kilowatt hour.

3. Because of the recommended relaxed emissions standard on engines over 500 horsepower, new boats equipped with high performance engines beginning January 1, 2009 must be equipped with a passive-purge carbon canister type of evaporative fuel system. Delphi, who makes a similar product for use in the automotive industry, is currently in development of marine canisters.

4. Catalytic converters will not be required equipment on high performance engines over 500 HP.

5. Some type of engine emissions certification will be required of high performance marine engine builders in order to legally sell engines in California after January 1, 2009.

6. The CARB proposed new regulations have been drafted to harmonize with pending EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) federal standards which may become effective for all 50 states as early as January 1, 2010.

More information available at: www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/offroad/sore/sore.htm}

 

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ryanbrindle

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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2008, 09:27:14 PM »
Is this proposed for new boats or all boats that are over 500hp?
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2008, 09:52:17 PM »
They will end up doing the same thing they did with cars...Everything before a certain year will be exempt from CARB restrictions.
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2008, 10:09:04 PM »
I was told by a boat dealer here in town that pretty soon all new boats will have to have a cat on them. 
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2008, 10:11:29 PM »
cool as long as they are not on the older boats!
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 10:34:27 PM »
Good thing my boat isnt new.
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2008, 07:16:55 AM »
Maybe now our old hot rods will become in greater demand.
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2008, 08:06:07 AM »
Maybe now our old hot rods will become in greater demand.


 ;D ;D ;D ;D  8)  I'm likin' that Idea (old boats more value) ,bummer for the new boats
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2008, 08:09:33 AM »
New boats are a rip off anyway! Give me an older boat any day!
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2008, 10:06:40 AM »
Gee, I'm not sure how I feel about a 1000 degree cat sitting in a wooden boat. I don't think they are gonna like water flowing through them, they need heat to make 'em work...
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2008, 10:48:50 AM »
Your current boats and hot rods are safe (for now) no retrofit programs are in sight .In the seventies the govmt tried "retrofitting" all the older cars with timing retards and bolt-on emmision controls It was an absolute frikkin night mare !! :banghead: Funny part is with the upcoming programs for new boats whos going to monitor and enforce it past the initial sales "delivery" anyway I seriously doubt the state has the funds and or training much less the personel to stop you and check your new boats posssible horsepower modifications Sound like a boating aftermarket wind fall to me  just my o2 Tom

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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2008, 12:53:58 PM »
All that emissions is removable as long as its sold with it right?
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Re: Boat Exhaust Emission's...Here we go!!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2008, 05:45:51 PM »
If they decide you have to sniff it, it will be a good reason for buying a jet. Just like now with 4 wheel drive. If it's full time - you have a different set of standards. You can say, the jet can't run dry, so you can't test it.
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