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5oclocksomewhere

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Can't keep the front of the boat down
« on: March 17, 2014, 05:17:24 PM »
So last year I put a 500hp 454 in my boat it's  a 94 Caribbean  20.5' openbow it will now do 62mph up river on gps. Last year coming back from pirates there were 6 adults and 2 kids most everybody but my largest buddy up front was sittin behind me because the ride up front is shit. I had the jetavator all the way down but I still couldn't keep the front of the boat down it want to hop so I kept having to get out of the throttle. Would a droop and ride plate help this?????  Also when trying to fock around with the jetovator all the way up it will not throw a roost. I bought a slight wedge for that but haven't put it in for fear it will make it even harder to keep the front down under heavy throttle??? Come on experts i need all your advice!!!!


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 05:22:23 PM »
So last year I put a 500hp 454 in my boat it's  a 94 Caribbean  20.5' openbow it will now do 62mph up river on gps. Last year coming back from pirates there were 6 adults and 2 kids most everybody but my largest buddy up front was sittin behind me because the ride up front is shit. I had the jetavator all the way down but I still couldn't keep the front of the boat down it want to hop so I kept having to get out of the throttle. Would a droop and ride plate help this?????  Also when trying to fock around with the jetovator all the way up it will not throw a roost. I bought a slight wedge for that but haven't put it in for fear it will make it even harder to keep the front down under heavy throttle??? Come on experts i need all your advice!!!!


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IMHO you are trying to do two things at once that are polar opposites of each other....  :screwy:

In all honesty it sounds to me like something a FUBAR with your Place Diverter set up.

Can you get a picture of the Diverter in the all the way up and all the way down positions?

You should be able to bury the boat pretty hard with the nozzle all the way down, as for the roost, lets work on one issue at a time. DO NOT INSTALL A WEDGE.

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 05:42:59 PM »
quick fix.  toss her under the bow.

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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 06:04:15 PM »
quick fix.  toss her under the bow.

AWW MAN! That's all kinds of wrong.

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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 06:14:22 PM »
Eight titties, I'm in love! :P
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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 06:19:19 PM »




IMHO you are trying to do two things at once that are polar opposites of each other....  :screwy:

In all honesty it sounds to me like something a FUBAR with your Place Diverter set up.

Can you get a picture of the Diverter in the all the way up and all the way down positions?

You should be able to bury the boat pretty hard with the nozzle all the way down, as for the roost, lets work on one issue at a time. DO NOT INSTALL A WEDGE.

GT

Okay I left it at the river this weekend but I will be back out there in 2 weeks to take a picture if the nozzle all the way up and all the way down.

Thanks GT


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 06:20:26 PM »

quick fix.  toss her under the bow.



Definitely not the fix I was looking for!!! Lol!


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 08:00:29 PM »
Mine had a real bad porpoise. I added some HP... an aggressor 9 vane(2" longer than a G), 4 degree pin straight snoot and bolt on ride plate/shoe. I had the straight snoot on 2 years ago with a modified split C and just that helped out some but the plate/shoe was the icing. I always had the diverter and down eliminated any bounce but killed the speed.  Just the slightest ripple on the water now at higher speeds, you can feel the boat release from the water and increase in speed. I never felt that till the plate/shoe. Over all bringing back the thrust and having a diverter helped out with the leverage....fyi I have a 30 gal belly tank and subs under my closed bow.

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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 08:52:03 PM »
Both my boat and my nephews boats had the same porpoise problem
I ended up running a droop with a bolt on ride plate, 4deg down shim and had a wedge made to shim the back of the ride plate down.
Im sure it affects the mph but in a 21ob cruiser its more the ride than speed for me. I also set my nephews pump up the same way. No more problem


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 09:27:35 PM »
Definitely not the fix I was looking for!!! Lol!


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 10:11:10 AM »
Kayotc.........should I ask why you had that photo in your collection?


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 10:37:14 AM »
Kayotc.........should I ask why you had that photo in your collection?


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I have it bookmarked under "SocalPSD's hotties"
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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 01:40:28 PM »
Personally I think the boat is fighting itself.... Full down means its pushing the bow down on the water and basic physics the water is pushing back....and its a never ending battle (hop)

What happens if you run it mid nozzle (straight)?

Is it only a problem with a lot of weight (number of people not fat chicks) in the boat?

If youre cruising at a mild speed and it starts hopping, if you raise it a few hundred RPMs, does it get better/worse?

And under any circumstances, fat chicks are never a solution.

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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2014, 02:05:49 PM »

Personally I think the boat is fighting itself.... Full down means its pushing the bow down on the water and basic physics the water is pushing back....and its a never ending battle (hop)

What happens if you run it mid nozzle (straight)?

Is it only a problem with a lot of weight (number of people not fat chicks) in the boat?

If youre cruising at a mild speed and it starts hopping, if you raise it a few hundred RPMs, does it get better/worse?

And under any circumstances, fat chicks are never a solution.

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X2 on the fat chicks. They are never an option. The extra weight is never worth the risk. Even mid week when no one is around...lol


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2014, 05:30:17 PM »
X2 on the fat chicks. They are never an option. The extra weight is never worth the risk. Even mid week when no one is around...lol


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 08:28:58 PM »
You guy's are overlooking the eight titties, Could be sixteen with enough beer!
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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 08:57:06 PM »
Hey
Could we get back to solving the problem with my boat and stop talking about whale hunting!!! Lol!


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 08:58:46 PM »
Hey
Could we get back to solving the problem with my boat and stop talking about whale hunting!!! Lol!

How about you answer my questions.
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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 09:12:17 PM »
Hey
Could we get back to solving the problem with my boat and stop talking about whale hunting!!! Lol!


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Technically, it is a solution. We're just discussing it.  ;D
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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 09:43:07 PM »

How about you answer my questions.

WTF are you asking me for you have ridden in it and drove it!!!


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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 09:45:30 PM »
WTF are you asking me for you have ridden in it and drove it!!!


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I dont recall ever driving it and the one time Ive road in it, it was just you and I trying to GPS it that one morning. I didnt notice any hop.

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Re: Can't keep the front of the boat down
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 09:51:33 PM »

I dont recall ever driving it and the one time Ive road in it, it was just you and I trying to GPS it that one morning. I didnt notice any hop.

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Yah I can't even remember exactly I will need to get it on the water soon to remember exactly what it was doing.


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