SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: lbhsbz on April 24, 2013, 08:54:14 PM
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My 97 extra cab won't fit the kid seat in the back, so in in the market for a crew cab. Found a smokin deal on a 2002 silverado 2500 6L 2wd crew with the 4L80 and 4:11 gears. I've read some horror stories about mileage. My truck , with the iron headed 5.7 vortec/4L60E gets 12 around town and I can do 18-19mpg running 80 out to the river.... How bad are the the 6.0L LS engines on mileage really?
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My 97 extra cab won't fit the kid seat in the back, so in in the market for a crew cab. Found a smokin deal on a 2002 silverado 2500 6L 2wd crew with the 4L80 and 4:11 gears. I've read some horror stories about mileage. My truck , with the iron headed 5.7 vortec/4L60E gets 12 around town and I can do 18-19mpg running 80 out to the river.... How bad are the the 6.0L LS engines on mileage really?
This may be of no help to you but...
My work truck is a 2008 6.0l 3/4 ton Express van that weighs over 10,000 lbs, it routinely gets 13mpg average and really hauls the mail. I don't know how different these years are.
GT
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I average about 14 on my 3/4 ton 6.0 it's a 04 with same gearing I can tow and have about a tad above 1/4 tank when I get to Blythe and tab below going to Parker and I tow from Monrovia. I can't complain it works out to 315/330 miles to the 25/26 gal tank it's comfy ass hell and I just cracked 160, on mine wife keeps telling me to get a new but can't bring myself to sell her.
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I'm honestly blown away by the MPG my shoebox gets on the highway...made it from long beach to havasu on 17 gallons...I'm not too hurt if I get a bit less, but reading about people getting 10-12 highway and worse towing.
The wife's 4runner is geared wrong, drinks 23 gallons each way to BR and back and feels clausrophobic after driving the GM....gotta find a crew
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I probably get 12/13 towing my 21' open bow... But ur right nothing like having enough room and being comfy I have a crew cab cause of the two kids there is plenty of room to sit 6 people is I needed to.
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I have a 6.0 in my work fleet. It gets low to mid teens for mpg. It has right around 180-190k miles never any issues and still has plenty of power to haul what we need.
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I have had 3 trucks in the last 6 years with the 6.0. An 02, 04,and now an 07. All 2500 Chevys single cab with a service body and ladder rack loaded with ladders. Like gt said they will and do get up and go. Even though my trucks all were heavily loaded with stuff and the giant air dam on top Ill get about 8-12 on the street and heading to Palm Springs at 75 ill get maybe 15-18 until you throw wind into the equation. On a 32 gallon tank ill get about 400-450 miles out of it. And that's from full to past empty, sometimes ill put 34 gallons into it and its only a "32 gallon" tank. Wired right
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If it makes anyone feel better I bought a Honda Ridgeline with a v-6, I traded in my Jeep Commander with a Hemi due to fuel mileage was crap. Ridgeline is a nice truck but my AVERAGE fuel economy not towing is 16.6 all the time. :banghead: :banghead:The 6.0 is a powerhouse my buddy had one is duellie-nice.
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If it makes anyone feel better I bought a Honda Ridgeline with a v-6, I traded in my Jeep Commander with a Hemi due to fuel mileage was crap. Ridgeline is a nice truck but my AVERAGE fuel economy not towing is 16.6 all the time. :banghead: :banghead:The 6.0 is a powerhouse my buddy had one is duellie-nice.
how are those things????? do they even have a frame ???? or is it a unibody???
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how are those things????? do they even have a frame ???? or is it a unibody???
ah.....um.......unk. The idea is interesting and it is a very nice catruck. Front wheel drive in normal mode and I thought how freaking stupid, then god damn sales asks me ever put snow or weight in the back of your truck to get traction, I'm like yea who doesnt. Then it dawns on me ok FWD aint to bad. It does have 4x4 mode. It tows 5000 lbs so its good to pull my dingy. I'll go check on frame I pretty sure it is full frame.
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my buddy was going to buy one when they first came out . but he did some checkin into them and i guess he was told theres no way to lift them so he passed.
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how are those things????? do they even have a frame ???? or is it a unibody???
I'll be damn, my honda el camino is a unibody under the engine then its a huge frame all the way back. :banghead:Listen to #$%%$# X-girlfriend and buy that vs Avalanche GRRRRRRR!!!!!!
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my buddy was going to buy one when they first came out . but he did some checkin into them and i guess he was told theres no way to lift them so he passed.
You can lift them I checked into it, 2" they put a space between strut and mount.
BTW sorry for going off topic here SORRY
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yah buy american! chevy!!!!
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If it makes anyone feel better I bought a Honda Ridgeline with a v-6, I traded in my Jeep Commander with a Hemi due to fuel mileage was crap. Ridgeline is a nice truck but my AVERAGE fuel economy not towing is 16.6 all the time. :banghead: :banghead:The 6.0 is a powerhouse my buddy had one is duellie-nice.
This is why I went diesel, 22-24 hwy empty, 17-18 on a heavy azz day cruiser (~3800 lbs), 12-14 towing 12,000 lb. 5th wheel
Seems without getting a diesel, there isnt much choice- GM 6.0, hemi 5.7 or the 6.2 ford all 12 mpg or less (WTF???)
I'll keep my 7.3's
Dan'l
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I have a '04 Chevy 2500 crewcab 4x4 6.0, it kills me running around town/stop and go 8 mpg's, maybe 11-13 pulling the boat, open freeway 14. i know 4x4 uses more but i didn't buy it for the mileage. if your're worried about mpg's and want to get the most than go diesel(more torque too).
btw it was my daily driver that's way i went gas, the wife got a new commuter car last year and now my daily driver is her old '03 tahoe - avg 15-17 during a weeks driving to work and errands. i switch weekly between the two trucks - after a week a driving the soccer mom suv i have to get back into my truck!!
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This is why I went diesel, 22-24 hwy empty, 17-18 on a heavy azz day cruiser (~3800 lbs), 12-14 towing 12,000 lb. 5th wheel
Seems without getting a diesel, there isnt much choice- GM 6.0, hemi 5.7 or the 6.2 ford all 12 mpg or less (WTF???)
I'll keep my 7.3's
Dan'l
Isnt Dodge claiming some crazy number now with the new Hemi in a half ton? Like 20 something?
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Isnt Dodge claiming some crazy number now with the new Hemi in a half ton? Like 20 something?
My sister has an '06, 5.7 hemi- old truck now, still 10 around town, 13-14 on the hwy, that truck "claimed" 20 hwy, new, yeah right
Dan'l
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you guys must drive like madmen. im getting avg 19mpg right now in my 5.4 3v navigator. thats mostly city driving. :screwy:
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the major prob with diesel, is the cost of the truck! of and lets not forget repair cost! all stick with gas! my 86 1 ton chevy dually gets about 13 on the freeway towing! thats good enough for me.
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Isnt Dodge claiming some crazy number now with the new Hemi in a half ton? Like 20 something?
My buddy just bought a fully loaded dodge ram 1500 with that motor and he has never seen more then 15 on freeway and we used his truck to tow the boat to meet at the bluewater he averaged 10 :( a bad ass truck and has power new 6spd trans but fuck that ill stick to my 05 chevy 2500hd 6.0 she is a great truck.
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Diesel set up correctly is the way to go, a little effort into making some of your own biodiesel helps even more. Cost of ownership is less than gas in the long term. There are exceptions ofcourse. Still would prefer a diesel in a truck and gas in anything else.
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Diesel set up correctly is the way to go, a little effort into making some of your own biodiesel helps even more. Cost of ownership is less than gas in the long term. There are exceptions ofcourse. Still would prefer a diesel in a truck and gas in anything else.
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490K+ on my 7.3, and its not a smallblock >:D
Dan'l
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My buddy's 2004 2500 4x2 crew cab with the 6.0 gets 14-16 hwy unloaded, and less on the streets. He also has the 4.10 gears.
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Diesel set up correctly is the way to go, a little effort into making some of your own biodiesel helps even more. Cost of ownership is less than gas in the long term. There are exceptions ofcourse. Still would prefer a diesel in a truck and gas in anything else.
be careful on the bio diesel! if you make to much at your home youll have to claim your property a hazmat site!!!! they just dont tell you that!
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I have a 08 Titan with the 5.6 I only get around 11-12 mpg
1995 advantage
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I'm not getting a diesel, unless I could find a late 90s 5.9 cummins/crew cab...which doesn't exist. The only reason I want the 3/4 ton is because I want a 4L80 trans....4L60s are for minivans, not trucks. I suppose if I could find a 5.3/4L80 1/2 ton I'd be stoked....to bad those don't exist.
The truck I'm looking at has 170K on it and I can get it for $5.
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why not get an older one that has a 350 or a 400 trans. and 4l60 was used in all 1/2 ton trucks and suvs . its a 350
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I'm not getting a diesel, unless I could find a late 90s 5.9 cummins/crew cab...which doesn't exist. The only reason I want the 3/4 ton is because I want a 4L80 trans....4L60s are for minivans, not trucks. I suppose if I could find a 5.3/4L80 1/2 ton I'd be stoked....to bad those don't exist.
The truck I'm looking at has 170K on it and I can get it for $5.
chevy actually made a 1500hd it has a 6.0 and a 4L80 trans and u save a lil money on weight on reg. made from 03 to 05/06 I think
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I'm not getting a diesel, unless I could find a late 90s 5.9 cummins/crew cab...which doesn't exist. The only reason I want the 3/4 ton is because I want a 4L80 trans....4L60s are for minivans, not trucks. I suppose if I could find a 5.3/4L80 1/2 ton I'd be stoked....to bad those don't exist.
The truck I'm looking at has 170K on it and I can get it for $5.
5g is smoking deal. I'd jump on that be washing it up in the driveway tomorrow lol
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Gmc or Chevy the best fuck the rest
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I'm not getting a diesel, unless I could find a late 90s 5.9 cummins/crew cab...which doesn't exist. The only reason I want the 3/4 ton is because I want a 4L80 trans....4L60s are for minivans, not trucks. I suppose if I could find a 5.3/4L80 1/2 ton I'd be stoked....to bad those don't exist.
The truck I'm looking at has 170K on it and I can get it for $5.
Newer than what you're looking for, my 2011 5.3/6L80 gives high 19 mpg unloaded on freeway to Vegas and back. 15-16 pulling my 21 footer to Laughlin and back. She just pulled a 7k lb+ enclosed trailer from CA, over the Mississippi and through the Smokey mountains to NC and got 13 mpg. There were three hours between Amarillo and Oklahoma City of which the truck would not go faster than 40mph due to severe headwind. I was runnin 75mph when the gettin was good any other time. The two extra gears and the 80 series trans are what sold me on the truck. You can see the weight on the truck, that's with the roll away boxes to the rear of the trailer axles.
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I'm averaging 18 in my '12 dodge hemi crew. Your buddies must drive like assholes. I cruise 80 on the freeway and easy starts and stops on the lights.
Pat my pops has the 6 liter in an 05 crew with a little lift and tires and averages 16-18. My 4 runner used to drink the gas on the way to the river. I'd fill up in Carlsbad. 1/2 a tank top off at dillon road and get to the river with 1/4 tank. With the dodge I can fill up, and have 1/2 a tank when I get to big river
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why not get an older one that has a 350 or a 400 trans. and 4l60 was used in all 1/2 ton trucks and suvs . its a 350
The 4l60 is based off the 700r4 and ive never had a prob with mine im my 93 that had an alum head small block makin decent power and me driving it pullin my boat at 90 or so i have a 94 one ton now with the 4l80 and really the only difference i see is the 4l80 is heavier and built to handle more torque and alot of heavy towing if ur just towing a boat under 20 ft the 4l60 will be fine i towed a 70's caddie and about 1k pounds a couple times sittin on bump stops and still never had a prob with the trans
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We have a 2011 3/4 ton GMC Yukon XL (Suburban) 6.0l and get 13-15 on the hwy and 9-11 towing my 7000 pound jeep and trailer in the hills.
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I'm averaging 18 in my '12 dodge hemi crew. Your buddies must drive like assholes. I cruise 80 on the freeway and easy starts and stops on the lights.
Pat my pops has the 6 liter in an 05 crew with a little lift and tires and averages 16-18. My 4 runner used to drink the gas on the way to the river. I'd fill up in Carlsbad. 1/2 a tank top off at dillon road and get to the river with 1/4 tank. With the dodge I can fill up, and have 1/2 a tank when I get to big river
Kevin how many miles on your truck.Mine has only 3300 on it and I'm only averaging 13 ,similar driving style.I've heard they improve as they get some miles ,I hope mine does
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Gord, when I first got it I was getting 12-15 as my foot was in it as I'd yell HEMIII!!! In a joe dirt sounding voice. I'm really easy on the gas pedal. This truck is the first truck I've ever had that you can actually feel the computer re calibrate for driving style. If I drive like an asshole for a bit, the next time I touch the gas pedal it's very sensitive and almost does a burn out. I've got 17.000 on it now and spend most of the time in Eco mode. It's 2wd as well.
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Review, back from the dead. LS motors are junk. I've seen 12 mpg at best, around town, very easy, I can squeek 8.5-9 mpg, and it tows like shit...no torque under 4000 Rpms. I want my old iron headed truck back.
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Review, back from the dead. LS motors are junk. I've seen 12 mpg at best, around town, very easy, I can squeek 8.5-9 mpg, and it tows like shit...no torque under 4000 Rpms. I want my old iron headed truck back.
They definitely aren't junk but I don't think they're the best platform for a truck that tows. I have almost 240k on my lq4 and stock 4l80e and they're both doing great. It's had a heavy rack and loaded tool box on it since day one. Mileage isn't the greatest, I get about 13, but I won't complain for what it is.
Garrett
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I had an 01 6.0 2500 chevy that was lifted, and it was cool and all, but full load over the grape vine ore any decent grade is a slow go in a gas jobber. Especially if they are lifted then they loose even more power. Get a diesel any diesel, You want to be the guy going 75 out of Indio not 40mph. My 04 duramax gets 20 mpg consistently, and my 83gmc cummins gets 15mpg. Gas motors are for jet boats, Diesels are for trucks.
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490K+ on my 7.3, and its not a smallblock >:D
Dan'l
Update- 571K on that same 'ol 7.3psd (12/10/2015)
1.5 sets of tires, 1 AC pump, all u-joints- ft brakes are next
AND some fuel...
Shoulda went diesel.
I cant afford NOT to...
Dan'l
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The best solution would be to not tow at 80 mph. Duh. For what your ticket is gonna cost you could fill your tank several times.
If you have a blow out you may be spending substantially more than that. If the drive is 300 miles the difference between 60 mph average and 75 is one hour. If the drive is 200 miles the difference is about 40 minutes.
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80, this POS won't pull itself up the grade out of Indio without unlocking the converter and dropping into 3rd. My iron head 5.7 would drag the boat up the grade at 65 locked up. I get 9mpg in this pile....unloaded. I'm over it.
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80, this POS won't pull itself up the grade out of Indio without unlocking the converter and dropping into 3rd. My iron head 5.7 would drag the boat up the grade at 65 locked up. I get 9mpg in this pile....unloaded. I'm over it.
You should sell it and get an old iron headed POS.
Garrett