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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: SuperDuty on March 02, 2010, 02:19:20 PM

Title: Diesel Smog!
Post by: SuperDuty on March 02, 2010, 02:19:20 PM
I just got my registration renewal in the mail.. If the HUGE price wasnt enough already.. It says smog inspection required. I thought this was a mess up (happened before on my 74 chevy pickup). I went to the smog guy in town just to check and they actually passed it..

Effective January 1, 2010, smog emission inspections are required for diesel-powered vehicles manufactured in or after 1998, and have a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 14,000 pounds or less for original registrations and transfers. Biennial smog inspection requirements will be phased-in beginning with a registration renewal date of April 30, 2010.

The whole damn thing has to be stock from intake to exhaust, and no chips or programmers. They have to pass a visual smoke test then be hooked up to the computer. Talk about shitty! This is EXACTLY why I bought a diesel, to be loud, fast, bellowing black smoke, WITHOUT the damn smog!

Sorry if this is old news to people.. I just had to vent before I go postal in the DMV!!!  :mad:
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Nordie on March 02, 2010, 02:25:39 PM
yeah you guys have caught up with us here in vegas we have had to smog diesels now for about 6 years! it is a messed up ordeal, and expensice...im guessing you half to be on a wheel dyno as well, and they run the truck up to 50mph....the smog is getting cheaper here, but is still more pricey then a regular smog! it's messed up...and out neighboring states are all going to stick together on this one...utah arizona new mexico nevada california and i think that is it...if you have a gvwr of 14,000 and above your really effed, cause you half to meet 08 emissions meaning you half to put on that new re-gen system that for an older vehicle it is about 10 grand to have installed!!!! so be glad you are below that rating!

out of curiosity what are they charging you for smog?

i pay $50
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: SuperDuty on March 02, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
I dont know what were gonna be paying yet. I know for a gas pickup it was 58 bucks last smog I got. The guy up here doesnt have a dyno, so I dont think well be doing that for awhile atleast. Im running around like crazy trying to find stock take-off exhaust at all the shops. The first trucks that have to be smogged are the ones that reg. is up in April... LUCKY me!
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: AQUAHOLIC on March 02, 2010, 02:47:05 PM
ya i am going to be screwed to. my f350 (big red) puts down like 500 ponies. and that is not smog friendly
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Nordie on March 02, 2010, 03:04:59 PM
what i would be looking for is someone that is willing to over look the exhaust, and or intake...they havent said anything to me yet about the intake or exhaust or programmer in my truck
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: MADSKILLZ on March 02, 2010, 05:35:46 PM
 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: I have 4" straight pipe off my turbo no cat and no muffler ans a Banks 6 gun programer on my 03 F350. This is going to suck.
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: SuperDuty on March 02, 2010, 07:11:32 PM
Thats what Im saying.. 4 inch turbo back straight pipe with AFE intake and Edge with Juice with fuel trim ALL the way up. Smog guy said cold air intake on diesels is legal. His advice was to uninstall the chip and drive for awhile then bring it in. With stock exhaust of course. I love spending money on the exhaust that I spent money to get rid of!
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Nordie on March 02, 2010, 07:22:22 PM
Thats what Im saying.. 4 inch turbo back straight pipe with AFE intake and Edge with Juice with fuel trim ALL the way up. Smog guy said cold air intake on diesels is legal. His advice was to uninstall the chip and drive for awhile then bring it in. With stock exhaust of course. I love spending money on the exhaust that I spent money to get rid of!

im running the exact setup on my duramax and the whole deal is that your edge will not fuck with your computer....all it does is intercept the signal you can unplug it and be good to go! they will never know plug in the stock harness and leave everything there what are they going to say? now the exhaust i dont know what to tell you there! i wish you good luck! and bend over with no vaseline, and thank the state of california once again!

thanks tree huggers
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: kenny760 on March 02, 2010, 07:29:07 PM
we are charging 59.95 out the door for diesel  oh... and make sure you have a cat on it everyone here where i'm at can't seen to find where they put it
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: GT Jets on March 02, 2010, 08:09:39 PM
LOL, If anybody is interested, I have an 18,500 mile 2005 4X4 F250 Super Duty Crew PSD totally stock.......

It will pass SMOG without issue.  ;)    :thumbup:

Lemmeknow ;D

GT
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: GlassCutter on March 02, 2010, 08:32:58 PM
Still feeling good about buying a gasser BUT DAY-UM got a bill for the tags today.  $626.00 !!!   :mad: :screwy: :banghead:
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: SuperDuty on March 02, 2010, 08:53:50 PM
Holy shit glass! What kinda truck is that? I know mines old (99) but it was 422 for a one ton. My 03 Chevy with the 6.0 was 440. And I thought I was gettin a deal cause of the money Id save on smog! I even used that as one reason to buy the diesel (among 200 others) Im glad I got the edge, but even after you pull those programers they still blow a little smoke. One of the smog tests is a visual smoke test. Im not sure how they judge that. Guy up here is cool as hell, Im sayin if he finds a benjamin where the cats supposed to be Im in!  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: GlassCutter on March 02, 2010, 09:40:56 PM
07 4x4 Mega Ram         appx. $100 more than last year.   Gov. Azzhole needs  me to help pay for the cost of keeping all the illegals fed and schooled.
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Donjuan on March 03, 2010, 07:57:49 AM
I got the phone call from a buddy of mine that works at ford in early January about this. From what I remember him saying all the smog places are really going to be looking for is a Catalytic Converter and a stock tuning. So set your programmer back to stock about the morning before the smog and go make a few quick laps to get all the excess diesel out of you pipes. I went to the local exhaust  shop and bought some pipe to run straight exhaust with no muffler.  I then made my own cat drop out and had the guy flare my stock cat so I can put it in and take it out as needed with two exhaust flanges.  I am pretty sure if you go to ford they will only check for a stock tuning and a catalytic converter. Intake should not make a difference on smog if it is California legal. If anyone discovers otherwise please let me know. I am running 2006 f-250 with a superchip programmer and 3” straight exhaust with an air raid intake.

Ps. If they do require stock intake I know that the stock for intakes are rated for up to 500hp. If I would have known that at the time I bought my upgrades I would have never bought the Air Raid.
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: CHROMEY on March 03, 2010, 12:26:03 PM
JUST MOVE TO ARIZONA...the water is better there anyway...lol
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: MADSKILLZ on March 03, 2010, 01:42:53 PM
JUST MOVE TO ARIZONA...the water is better there anyway...lol

But the pay sucks  :thumbdown: I thought about it
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Luckie Stiff on March 03, 2010, 03:41:29 PM
But the pay sucks  :thumbdown: I thought about it

Yep, and the cost of living is the cost of living, no matter where you are.
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 03, 2010, 05:58:49 PM
Just saw this truck on the way home from work today, wonder if he is going to have smog prolems ::)
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Nordie on March 03, 2010, 06:05:43 PM
probably in regen mode
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: 76NORDIC on March 03, 2010, 06:14:34 PM
The thing sounded badass, and when he got on it a little that truck frickin moved, for a   chebbie O0   Dang i just noticed I goofed on the pic and its frickin sideways
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: Nordie on March 03, 2010, 06:20:41 PM
The thing sounded badass, and when he got on it a little that truck frickin moved, for a   chebbie O0   Dang i just noticed I goofed on the pic and its frickin sideways

pretty sure when mine runs it will drive circles around that little ferd of yours too! probably the downfall of my diesel is i drive the piss out of the thing! but towing a fully loaded 24 foot enclosed, and easily doing 90+ is a nice feature
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: IRRebel on March 03, 2010, 10:39:15 PM
Here's a new one that maybe you Cali boys have heard of already. No Smog for my diesel yet, but I'm in Pinal County.

Anyways, Chandler PD Officer gave me a newsletter outlining a new munincipal law that took effect March 1.

"Any Diesel engined vehicle left idling for more than 5 minutes, other than normal warm-up and cool down, under 14k lbs gross weight, will be fined $300 under new Maricopa County Air Quality laws" Is the readers digest version.

Beleive it or not, they have been patrolling our Loading Zone quite heavily recently, and now I know why.........It's coming brothers!

Ray
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: crewchief22 on March 04, 2010, 06:05:45 AM
"Any Diesel engined vehicle left idling for more than 5 minutes, other than normal warm-up and cool down, under 14k lbs gross weight, will be fined $300 under new Maricopa County Air Quality laws" Is the readers digest version.

Beleive it or not, they have been patrolling our Loading Zone quite heavily recently, and now I know why.........It's coming brothers!

Ray


Do they actually think that they will be able to make enough money off of a stupid law like this to support the addtional patrols necessary to police it?


Once people learn about the law and where it will be enforced the number of citations writen will drop off and it will become another useless law on the books.  :banghead:  :thumbdown:








Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: SuperDuty on March 04, 2010, 08:38:16 AM
Im not sure if its out law or not, but they made us put the smog stickers on all of our equiptment like the skid steers, backhoes, exavators, trenchers, EVERYTHING! And when they came to put the sticker on, they all got another sticker in the cab that says "This vehicle can not idle more than 5 minutes" At first it was a test to see if it would just kill the motor, but it doesnt! I guess thats their way of being stern on a sticker...  :screwy:
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: OC2Vegas on March 04, 2010, 09:11:24 AM
Im not sure if its out law or not, but they made us put the smog stickers on all of our equiptment like the skid steers, backhoes, exavators, trenchers, EVERYTHING! And when they came to put the sticker on, they all got another sticker in the cab that says "This vehicle can not idle more than 5 minutes" At first it was a test to see if it would just kill the motor, but it doesnt! I guess thats their way of being stern on a sticker...  :screwy:

Just the states way of spending 50 million on printing stickers and paying someone who should be working at mcd's $120k a year to put the stickers on. Goverment spending at its finest!  :banghead:
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: SuperDuty on March 04, 2010, 09:33:33 AM
Yep, Sounds about right. Then the guy was talking shit to one of the foremans cause I complained that the sticker was crooked and made him throw a new one on.. Im way OCD about that, and if I have to stare at it for 8-10 hours, damn thing better be straight!
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: countryboyaustin on March 05, 2010, 05:46:10 PM
All I got to say is GOD BLESS TEXAS! I run a  Dodge cummins Turbo with straight up 5 inch pipes no mufflers no cats and they go right up behind the cab. I have a crazy larry chip and the silly thing still gets 23 mpg and that is running 500+ ponies!
Title: Re: Diesel Smog!
Post by: RedSnapperSlapper on March 05, 2010, 06:43:47 PM
The 5 minute idle rule is a law. Most on highway vehicles with electronic engines already have a 5 minute shut off programed in the engines computer. Im not sure on the requirements and laws for personal pick up trucks. But we have been retrofitting vehicles with Diesel Particulate filters for about 5 years now and we do anual smoke or opacity checks on hundreds of vehicles.

If you want to know what the actual law is for any diesel engine go to WWW.arb.ca.gov and click on the Diesel activities link

That is the state of California's direct website to the Air resorce board
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