SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: wanabe on June 02, 2007, 01:14:07 PM
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Although my electrical work turned into pulling the starter/solenoid (which will need replacing - Rod?), it's electrical I need to work out first.
I'm using this diagram I found on HB.com:
http://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=4 (http://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=4)
I'm working from the ignition switch back; there's a part that was just dangling (not attached to anything) and I don't know what it is; it's not shown in the diagram.
What is this?
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10461/IMG_0001.JPG)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10461/IMG_0002.JPG)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10461/IMG_0003.JPG)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10461/IMG_0004.JPG)
1 wire feeds into it: the white from ignition switch 'start'.
3 wires exit:
1 to terminal post 3 (which is for the ignition switch 'start'; according to diagram);
1 to terminal post 2 (which is for the ignition switch 'bat'; according to diagram);
1 to ground.
Since this isn't on the diagram, my thought was to REMOVE IT; however, I'd rather get knowledgable advice first.
Any help is appreciated.
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Diagram:
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10461/Wiring1.jpg)
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It's a starter solenoid. I'd remove it. You've got an Olds, right? Remove it. If in the case it turns out you need a starter solenoid it would be better to use a Ford starter solenoid. Remove it. Congratualtions! You have a new paper weight for your desk!
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Looks like this diagram has just answered a 20 year old question that I've had. I'm stoked. ;D
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Someone needs to redraw this with an amp gauge in the mix instead of a volt gauge.
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It's a starter solenoid. I'd remove it. You've got an Olds, right? Remove it. If in the case it turns out you need a starter solenoid it would be better to use a Ford starter solenoid. Remove it. Congratualtions! You have a new paper weight for your desk!
I thought that was the starter solenoid mounted on top of the starter ? ???
This seemed to be an added-on something.
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I think he was saying that for some idiodic reason, there was 2 of them ???
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if my memory is right that was bolted on the inner fender well driver side olds cars it is the horn relay i was a olds dealer mech 1963 to 1970
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if my memory is right that was bolted on the inner fender well driver side olds cars it is the horn relay i was a olds dealer mech 1963 to 1970
WOW! You're exactly correct!!!! It is a horn relay, however since it's in a jet boat it had to be used as a starter relay/solenoid. Since solenoids and relay's are different, in this particular case the guy was probably using the horn relay straight out of the key switch to ease the key switches load on starting to the engine. You would also see this part on many other GM vehicles. You shouldn't ever need a relay on the starter unless the key switch's contacts are bad/corroded.
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Relays incorporate solenoids, so they're "similar" in principle. I don't know why you'd want to run an ammeter (since I assume you're running an alternator, not a generator), but here's a link to a typical ammeter wiring diagram (http://www.vintagerodcomponents.com/inst/dix106.pdf).
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Relays incorporate solenoids, so they're "similar" in principle. I don't know why you'd want to run an ammeter (since I assume you're running an alternator, not a generator), but here's a link to a typical ammeter wiring diagram (http://www.vintagerodcomponents.com/inst/dix106.pdf).
It's the magnetic thing they have in common. ;) I don't know why someone would run an ammeter either, however most of the jet's I've come across (NOT lierally!) have had ammeters in them. ???
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The best thing you can do is get rid of the ammeter, and jump across running a pigtail to a voltmeter. I try to carry a ton ton of volt meters in stock just for that reason. Of course I run an ammeter in the '23, but it's just a matter of time before I regret it.....
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The mystery relay has been removed (maybe I should have kept it and put a horn on the boat ;D )
MORE at:
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=833.msg9453#new (http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=833.msg9453#new)