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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: aquaholic72 on January 21, 2015, 01:06:44 AM

Title: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on January 21, 2015, 01:06:44 AM
Has anyone used young guns in rancho for header coating? They always have an ad on cl for coating boat headers, but when i contacted them about coating my "dry" boat headers they seamed alil gunshy about it.. im sure they coat hi performance car headers that are " dry"..  just curious if anyone has used them ..and if they're any good or should i just go to car craft..??

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: matches909 on January 21, 2015, 01:12:56 AM
Go to car craft
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on January 21, 2015, 01:24:35 AM
Anyone else?? I dont trust matches909.. he has alterial motives!!!! Lmfao>:D

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: Bigblockchevy1691 on January 21, 2015, 04:13:02 AM
Go to car craft and talk to Bob


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: 74 howard 21rc on January 21, 2015, 06:28:10 AM
I have used him for my fenderwell headers on my nova wagon. They did tell me that white was a hard color to powder coat and it did chip easly. To me they where honest and up front. I was fine whith that. There is some other guys I know that had work done by them and is happy with his service. They had some issues with stuff and the guy always made good with it and always would redo there stuff. Its a crap shoot on who to use but the guys customer service is great.
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: jimpen on January 21, 2015, 07:13:02 AM
Embee will have no problem dry headers.


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: jyeager on January 21, 2015, 11:14:06 AM

Embee will have no problem dry headers.


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: matches909 on January 21, 2015, 12:22:57 PM
I do not have alternative motives
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: berkbryan on January 22, 2015, 06:17:18 PM
When I had my sand rail car craft did mine
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on January 22, 2015, 06:26:11 PM
I think im gonna go to car craft. Theyre close to me

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on April 22, 2015, 12:27:29 AM
Well im gonna refresh this one. Had carcraft coat my headers and after about an hour runtime at big river on sunday they are a far cry of the header i paid for.... discolored and a few spots looks like its gone.....hope this shit had a warranty!! Lol

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: Bunger on April 22, 2015, 04:46:49 AM

Well im gonna refresh this one. Had carcraft coat my headers and after about an hour runtime at big river on sunday they are a far cry of the header i paid for.... discolored and a few spots looks like its gone.....hope this shit had a warranty!! Lol

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If u did ceramic I was told by Jeff at embee that u need to break in the coating. Basically get them up to temp then shut it off and let them cool completely a few times. Then your good to go. Did it with mine and after two trips they still look pretty tits


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on April 22, 2015, 08:56:22 AM
If u did ceramic I was told by Jeff at embee that u need to break in the coating. Basically get them up to temp then shut it off and let them cool completely a few times. Then your good to go. Did it with mine and after two trips they still look pretty tits


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i asked that question when i picked them up, they said nope just run them.. but they went thru several heat cycles in the driveway before i got it to the water..

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: steves86ta on April 22, 2015, 10:55:07 AM
Pics?
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: jimpen on April 22, 2015, 11:26:06 AM
Embee!!!!!!


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: jyeager on April 22, 2015, 11:40:08 AM

Embee!!!!!!


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: stierney11 on April 22, 2015, 11:42:40 AM
I did mine at Embee


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: MorePower on April 22, 2015, 12:00:52 PM
There are a few places that are very reputable. Lots of guys have had luck with Embee
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on April 22, 2015, 12:29:41 PM
Pics?
before and after

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: WhyNot76 on April 22, 2015, 05:43:39 PM

Embee!!!!!!


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  that's where mine were done right?


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: jyeager on April 22, 2015, 06:37:43 PM
You can also polish that back out. Take some mothers or something and give it a shot.


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: Bunger on April 22, 2015, 06:46:14 PM

before and after

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Mine dulled down a little like that but not much. I knew going into it there not gunna look  the greatest i just wanted to run em dry and keep the heat down a bit. Mine also got a copper coating inside


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: who yo daddy on April 22, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
Where is ebee


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: jyeager on April 22, 2015, 07:33:49 PM
2100 Ritchey St
Santa Ana, CA  92705-5134



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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: who yo daddy on April 22, 2015, 07:35:42 PM
Nice thxs👍


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: Flusher on April 22, 2015, 09:16:05 PM
Ceramic coating will continue to cure when first run, but you don't want to put too much heat into them.

You don't want to run freshly coated headers on a new engine that is still breaking in.  New engines develop a lot of heat as parts develop a wear pattern.

Same if you are working through some tuning issues.  A lean condition causes excessive Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT).

Best case is to break in and get your tune worked out before coating your headers or run an old set of headers. 
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: WhyNot76 on April 22, 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Mine are pretty shot, lil rust coming thru, dull and flaking, I've tried mothers and it helps a little but they need to be redone


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on April 22, 2015, 10:29:05 PM
Ceramic coating will continue to cure when first run, but you don't want to put too much heat into them.

You don't want to run freshly coated headers on a new engine that is still breaking in.  New engines develop a lot of heat as parts develop a wear pattern.

Same if you are working through some tuning issues.  A lean condition causes excessive Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT).

Best case is to break in and get your tune worked out before coating your headers or run an old set of headers.
ya.. i was having sum lean out issues for the first part of the day till i got it squared away..

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: LuckyDaze on April 23, 2015, 10:24:58 AM
I wished I had gone to Embee to have my headars done. I had Carcraft take care of my pipes and they went real thin on the coating in between the headers. Now they are all rusted to crap even though I have taken care of them. Will be re-coating them again but now that I live in Wa I gotta find a place local to do it.  :banghead:

I've seen what Embee does and it is the best coverage of all the different coating places I've seen. That being said, their high quality work does come with a higher price tag.

But you ge twhat you pay for...
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: 81sprint on April 23, 2015, 02:35:21 PM
These are mine when I got them back from embee
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: stierney11 on April 23, 2015, 03:18:45 PM
I did the black they have at Embee


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: CCPcoatings on April 24, 2015, 07:49:09 AM
Ceramic coating will continue to cure when first run, but you don't want to put too much heat into them.

You don't want to run freshly coated headers on a new engine that is still breaking in.  New engines develop a lot of heat as parts develop a wear pattern.

Same if you are working through some tuning issues.  A lean condition causes excessive Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT).

Best case is to break in and get your tune worked out before coating your headers or run an old set of headers.

There is absolutely NO CURING required to bright ceramic headers when you get them.  The only reason the coaters and manufacturers are telling you to cycle the headers is to prevent you from destroying the finish.  Running bright ceramic headers on an engine that is too lean, too fat or out of time will kill the finish in minutes.

Further, if the headers dull as a result of exposed temps it is pointless to try and polish them as they will continue to dull.  Dulling as a result of oxidation is something different.  Since this finish is essentially raw polished aluminum Its a good idea to polish them with NON ABRASIVE polish once or twice a season to keep them looking nice.
Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: aquaholic72 on April 25, 2015, 03:52:36 AM
Had i known ceramic coat was so sensative to tuning issues, i would have just blasted them and shot them with vht. I guess i just wiped my ass with 275 bucks because of a carb float!! Sucks!! Lol

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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: shumzzr on April 25, 2015, 06:10:39 AM
I'm glad to have read this because I too was thinking of having my headers done. Guess I'll just keep sporting my cooked headers and keep that nasty hotrod look. I run mine wet and dry and on the rich side. My carb is a little big for my cam and heads. So one thing at a time. 830 on stock cam and peanut heads.


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Title: Re: Header coating
Post by: CCPcoatings on April 25, 2015, 07:05:11 AM
Had i known ceramic coat was so sensative to tuning issues, i would have just blasted them and shot them with vht. I guess i just wiped my ass with 275 bucks because of a carb float!! Sucks!! Lol

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The bright ceramic is the only one with these limitations.  If you're having these temp issues then you'd be best to go with a high temp ceramic which is typically rated at 2000F plus.  These are what are used on turbo and supercharged applications.  They are not available in a polished version but come in about 12 different colors of black, silver, gold, etc, etc....  Much better than VHT.....
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