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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2010, 10:40:21 PM »
Do you tow 8K pounds once a month, every month or do you drive 1000 miles every week?   Do you carry 5 people every day?    Why do you think you need a diesel 4 door ?    When you do the math on all the costs like oil changes, repairs, etc.  diesels rarely come out cheaper in the long run.   I'm just sayin . . .

Going to respectfully disagree with you there....

If you put into that equation the purchase price of the diesel upgrade, you're right on...

But as stated, no way...Oil gets changed every 10,000 miles when running a bypass filter and synthetics, 7500 miles if using Dino pee..On the gas deal, 4-6000 miles...so that would be a wash...

Mileage would dictate almost the same unloaded, but if you figure in towing, no contest...

Next (and this puts back in the purchase price of the upgrade) resale value, you will lose your ass on the gas vs. diesel as far as resale...

I fail to see any major differences in repairs, if you smoke a head on a diesel, you would have smoked a motor on the gas if doing the same job (or abusing it as hard)  ;)

I have had many gas trucks, the comparison is non existent...

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2010, 11:27:41 PM »
6.0 PSD is actually a really good engine. it had its share of probs like egr issues and head gaskets but all new engines have bugs that eventually get worked out. I worked on 6.0's all day at ford and to be honest, once you get it serviced for all the recalls for head bolts and egr coolers etc they are strong and powerful. the v10's sucked, but the 7.3's were REALLY REALLY good engines, but the trannies werent even close to as good as the 5 speed that came with the 6.0's.
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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2010, 11:36:08 PM »
FWIW
ford specs...
   7.3  525 ft./lbs  
   6.0  570 ft./lb

craigslist...
2000 f250 7.3 cc 4x4 153k...$11,500
2005 f250 6.0 cc 4x4 unkn mi....$24950?

its NOT twice the truck.
I dont see it.
6.0=$$$
my .02

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2010, 11:48:51 PM »
 I drive an '06 F350 with the 6.0. I LOVE IT!

Can trailer a boat up 93 to Kingman over hill and dale with the cruise set at 65+ and the only guage that moves is the boost guage! I have yet to hit the "tow" button.......

Heard some of the bad rap on the 6.0 as well, bought mine with 101k on it a little over a year ago, has 148k on it now, not ONE problem!

I was NEVER a Ford fan. Point of fact, had a 99 Exploder as a company vehicle for 3 years that was in the shop more than I used it! BUT a smokin deal, so I bought this. Great Truck! I beat the hell outta it too! (It's a truck for christs sake!).

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2010, 11:50:33 PM »
I'm just sayin' back...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/1686945834.html

FWIW
ford specs...
   7.3  525 ft./lbs  
   6.0  570 ft./lb

craigslist...
2000 f250 7.3 cc 4x4 153k...$11,500
2005 f250 6.0 cc 4x4 unkn mi....$24950?

its NOT twice the truck.
I dont see it.
6.0=$$$
my .02

Danl

Unknown mileage is misleading...May have only 19,850 miles... :sly:

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2010, 12:19:55 AM »

Or 119,850 mi..........
    Is it still worth double?

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2010, 12:27:36 AM »
I agree, $24.9 for an '05 F250 is a BIT much. Don't care how cherry or what equipment it has. Paid QUITE a bit less for my '06 F350 a year ago...... Cloth seats, crew cab, 8' bed, single wheel rear, vinyl on the floor (A plus to me, I can just hose all the sand and dirt off), 4x4, but, well, "around" 5 figures less......Granted, over 100k, but still.......

Ray

Edit: PS ask Nordie what he thinks of his Duramax..............
« Last Edit: April 13, 2010, 01:38:39 AM by IRRebel »
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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2010, 12:34:42 AM »
Or 119,850 mi..........
    Is it still worth double?

Danl

Probably not...But ....

Sort of depends on how you look at it, the truck I posted I have seen up close and personal....It is spotless...

Is it worth 2X? Probably not, would you keep an already 10 year old truck with 150+k miles on it for ten years? probably not...
Sooo what will it be worth in ten years. $5K?, what would a 5 year younger truck be worth at the same time?...$10K?
More?  all I am trying to say is that "now" is only here for a few minutes and I will personally guarantee the older truck will cost twice as much to maintain and is twice as old....Also may have twice as many expensive repairs needed and meanwhile parts will be harder to obtain (after some time). All speculation... :-\

Trust me when I say I am probably the cheapest guy on the planet, but there is more to it than what costs less right now...

You have to always think 5 years down the road, if you don't, you will continually be buying for the now....Which is only here for a minute..

Disclaimer;  I was hanging out in the shop with some buds tonight and did some serious damage to a bottle of Yukon Jack...

Good nite brotha...no offense meant.  :-*

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2010, 01:21:32 AM »
I have an 05 f250 with the 6.0 and it runs like a champ with 96k on it.  I agree with whoever said all the 6 liter problems were a hype!  Try putting the same crappy edge  or homemade tunes that all these people do with any other truck and it will have the same problems period.  I have left mine stock and have never had a CEL light or any other problems.  The people that are paying the big bucks for the egr repairs and having to get new heads as a result of the egr valve and cooler going out are the ones that keep driving and wonder where the coolant is going!  Its not something that just happens overnight.  Okay im finished.
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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2010, 05:58:31 AM »
I love my duramax! The only downfall is injectors every 100k! Next time I will be ready and know what to do! There was 2 problems with this first year motor! Water pump at 75k and injectors! That's just maintenance! If you keep the mods to a minimum they run flawless! Only other problems with my truck was 1 window regulator a u-joint....one frozen idler pulley....and the carrier bearing for the drive shaft! Nothing out of the norm if you ask me! Truck has 111426 miles, but actually more then that cause it's been lifted since almost new!

If you want a long lasting easy to fix diesel you get a cummings! And any diesel owner will agree to that
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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2010, 11:40:14 AM »
Sorry sam your opinion sucks!

cummins 5.9
6.6 duramax LBZ
Ford 7.3

gas
5.3 chevy hands down the best motor per hp and gas mileage
5.7 nissan gets better mileage then hemi
hemi still crappy
5.4 cause its gutless

customer service they all suck

my 02 i guess

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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2010, 12:40:49 PM »
My 7.3 has 160,000 n lets just say im not the nicest to the truck n the only problem ive had was the tranny, but ive seen plenty o stock trannys go out after 100,000 behind a stock motor. I have a custom tuned chip, intake and exhaust and stage 1 injectors n i would never even think of owning a 6blow (no offense to 6.0 owners haha) My good buddy is just hitting 500,000 in his 7.3 as i write this and its been chipped since 200,000, just tranny problems. Just my .02 might not mean much but me n a couple buddies have been through it all with these 7.3s. The Dmax is a good truck minus the IFS junk front end, and the cummins is a great motor but the dodge truck just doesnt doit for me. I live in a small town n diesels are  more popular than any other form of transportation n theres eveything here and every truck has its problems.
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Re: new tow rig questions...
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 12:44:33 PM »
My 7.3 has 160,000 n lets just say im not the nicest to the truck n the only problem ive had was the tranny, but ive seen plenty o stock trannys go out after 100,000 behind a stock motor. I have a custom tuned chip, intake and exhaust and stage 1 injectors n i would never even think of owning a 6blow (no offense to 6.0 owners haha) My good buddy is just hitting 500,000 in his 7.3 as i write this and its been chipped since 200,000, just tranny problems. Just my .02 might not mean much but me n a couple buddies have been through it all with these 7.3s. The Dmax is a good truck minus the IFS junk front end, and the cummins is a great motor but the dodge truck just doesnt doit for me. I live in a small town n diesels are  more popular than any other form of transportation n theres eveything here and every truck has its problems.


the last sentence gets it right all trucks have good points and all have problems
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