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Title: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 03, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
A buddy of mine at work has a rogers jet boat thats been sitting in his back yard for years. I don't know much about rogers boats.. Are they any good? I know its going to be a decent little project just didn't know if it would  be worth it, any guidance would be much appreciated. He only has two photos, ill work on getting some more. the interior is all ripped and weathered needs to be replaced has a bbc says it ran when he parked it 3 years ago. The hull seems pretty solid no cracks or damage paints shot. He said he give it to me for 1500 doesn't have any paper work on it at all.. comes with trailer
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: GT Jets on May 03, 2015, 05:08:17 PM
That thing has $1,500 worth of parts on it. Looks like a good start. Plan on turning every bolt at least once.

I don't think you could get hurt. Financially anyway. Lol
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 03, 2015, 05:08:43 PM
Rogers are great boats, but with any boat, its only as good as its been kept. If its been uncovered and had water sitting in it - the stringers, floor, etc (ie anything wood) could be rotted....and will take a ton of money to bring back to life.

It doesnt look like its been kept very well, even the anodizing on the AN fittings is rusted - but how does aluminum rust? lol

Looks like a cool boat with a lot of potential, but it all depends on how deep your pockets are too.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 03, 2015, 05:19:23 PM
my buddy owns a engine rebuilding shop here in riverside and owes me some work from electrical ive done over the years for him, so he would at least go through that for me. im pretty sure it was covered, he just lives an a foggy area from the cow feilds. im thinking those fitting might be steal and the other ones are aluminum. the boat has a berkley jet no droop or place divertor has some cray dual cable steering that ive never seen before, dogs jumped in a ripped up the interior. thanks for all the insight!!! i will try to get some more pictures currently I have about 5 grand to start with.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: GT Jets on May 03, 2015, 05:37:44 PM
my buddy owns a engine rebuilding shop here in riverside and owes me some work from electrical ive done over the years for him, so he would at least go through that for me. im pretty sure it was covered, he just lives an a foggy area from the cow feilds. im thinking those fitting might be steal and the other ones are aluminum. the boat has a berkley jet no droop or place divertor has some cray dual cable steering that ive never seen before, dogs jumped in a ripped up the interior. thanks for all the insight!!! i will try to get some more pictures currently I have about 5 grand to start with.

Sounds like a Calgo steering set up. Plan on getting it built.

$5k might be enough. .... the interior and possible word damage are the killers.

GT
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: fastnlight on May 03, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
Do you know what model and length?  Cyclone or Bonneville. If it's a Bonnevlle TR that's a fairly rare and desirable hull


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: GT Jets on May 03, 2015, 06:06:48 PM
Do you know what model and length?  Cyclone or Bonneville. If it's a Bonnevlle TR that's a fairly rare and desirable hull


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Does not look like a Bonneville.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 03, 2015, 06:36:05 PM
im not sure its either 18 or 19. he doesn't have any paper work for it at all. hes trying to tell me the engine has over 500 hp but idk man, for how much he doesnt know about the boat its hard to trust. headers are all rusted through on the bottom too.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: GT Jets on May 03, 2015, 06:37:46 PM
im not sure its either 18 or 19. he doesn't have any paper work for it at all. hes trying to tell me the engine has over 500 hp but idk man, for how much he doesnt know about the boat its hard to trust. headers are all rusted through on the bottom too.

That engine had zero hp. Because it won't be starting anytime soon. Lol.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 03, 2015, 06:51:00 PM
thats exactly what i told him, i said give it to me for 1000 everything needs work, there is nothing on here that doesnt need to worked on. I just really wanted to know that if im dropping cash into a hull that its into one that is desired. if i build it im not in a hurry, i go to the river year around so its always river season to me  :P i will try to go by his house tomorrow and get some more pictures.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: Undersoul02 on May 05, 2015, 02:36:08 PM
Are you looking for a project? If you are then I'd say go for it, but if it fell in your lap and you are just thinking about it than you might want to find something that is running and been somewhat taken care of. For 5k you can find some pretty decent boats that are way further along then this. For instance (not my boat) http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5002051985.html (http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5002051985.html) Like I said if you're looking for a project then have fun, but there are plenty of good ones out there.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: MPKardell on May 05, 2015, 03:29:39 PM
thats exactly what i told him, i said give it to me for 1000 everything needs work, there is nothing on here that doesnt need to worked on. I just really wanted to know that if im dropping cash into a hull that its into one that is desired. if i build it im not in a hurry, i go to the river year around so its always river season to me  :P i will try to go by his house tomorrow and get some more pictures.

I'd pass.  It has no title, and is a complete unknown to you.  Based on the rust on the fittings and the headers, the cylinders are toast.  And like Brad said, if the stringers and floor are soft, that's major rework.

You guys in CA have no shortage of boats to choose from.  Look for something else.  I've seen lots of (what appear to be) good boats listed in CA for $5k or less.  If you're really in no hurry, wait until September.....

Just my 2cts.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: MPKardell on May 05, 2015, 03:37:18 PM
Like this.  Absolutely beautiful.

http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5002051985.html (http://slo.craigslist.org/boa/5002051985.html)
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on May 05, 2015, 03:55:38 PM
I'm a big fan of Rogers boats as most here know. But if you got 5 grand and want to be in the water soon, I'd but a complete boat. Even a complete Rogers.
Without paperwork I'd buy it as a future race boat. The flat deck Super Cyclone is not as good as a bubble deck for resale either.
If you want and are going to keep the Rogers then it may be worth the effort and money,  $1500 - $2000 for upholstery, $1000.00 minimum to tear down the motor,
pump $$$???, trailer tires, bearings ??? and there's still the title issue.
Would still like to see more pics.
 
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 04:26:03 PM
Okay well I talked the guy to giving it to me for 1200, he's putting new tires on the trailer, my engine guy said 1500 worst case scenario. do I buy it and part it out after I go through the engine? What a fresh rebuilt 454 go for $3000?


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 04:31:01 PM
I want to say it might even be a 468.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 05:46:36 PM
Stringers look solid floor seems solid I'm 215lbs jumped on it bout four times didn't feel any give or hear any sounds. Here's some more pictures. Again thanks for all the input.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 06:41:55 PM
Also I couldn't find any serial/vin number on the boat no stamp or plate anywhere it does have old registration az numbers could that help me at all?


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: philofab on May 05, 2015, 07:14:21 PM
If it was made in the 60s or earlier it would not have an HIN.

The fuel fittings look to be JIC industrial stuff, that's why they are rusted. Way better than crap aluminum fittings in my opinion.

If you do buy it make sure you take care of fixing the paper work before you drop a bunch of money into it. AZ will require you to bring it here to be inspected to get a ID number assigned to it. Not sure what CA does.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 07:30:47 PM
The rusted fittings are definitely not aluminum. I stopped by on my way home. I wanted to pull the valve covers off just to see what kinda parts are in there but I didn't have any tools with me. It's a shame he let it sit so long looks like it was pretty badass at one point.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: mobboss on May 05, 2015, 07:30:54 PM
In all honesty !! No matter what anyone says you are going to do what you want so with that being said if you like it you'll buy it weather it's a lot of work or not. Your not buying it for an investment !! Cause boats are holes that you just dump money into.!!! It looks like crap dirty !! Clean it then look at it and sit in it he'll make boat noises and  see if that's what you want! That's how you should look at it. The money does not matter . You will be upside down in it anyway!!!


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 07:37:55 PM
Honestly I was just trying to help the guy out, and figured I good just start a project but now I'm thinking I should start with a hull that I really want, if it wasn't for me he'd probably just let it sit there for 20 more years. If anyone is interested in anything on here let me know cause I will probably just part it out.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 74 SleekCraft on May 05, 2015, 08:07:09 PM

Honestly I was just trying to help the guy out, and figured I good just start a project but now I'm thinking I should start with a hull that I really want, if it wasn't for me he'd probably just let it sit there for 20 more years. If anyone is interested in anything on here let me know cause I will probably just part it out.


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how much for the complete boat?


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 08:08:40 PM
1500$


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 05, 2015, 08:08:52 PM
With decent trailer


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on May 08, 2015, 06:51:17 PM
Tearing her down


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76Rogers on June 09, 2015, 05:26:24 PM
Is that original paint? And that for $1200 it really isn't a bad little boat. Yeah it needs some tlc but it has potential! Rogers are good hulls, I love mine.


Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: HDriderTH on June 09, 2015, 07:06:55 PM
I could use a tach tube..
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: seapat on June 09, 2015, 07:45:36 PM
Is that original paint? And that for $1200 it really isn't a bad little boat. Yeah it needs some tlc but it has potential! Rogers are good hulls, I love mine.
Smoking deal, I'm looking forward to the Rogers guys meeting up one day.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on June 09, 2015, 09:09:03 PM

Is that original paint? And that for $1200 it really isn't a bad little boat. Yeah it needs some tlc but it has potential! Rogers are good hulls, I love mine.
This boat now belongs to 76 Bonneville.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76Rogers on June 09, 2015, 10:14:47 PM

Smoking deal, I'm looking forward to the Rogers guys meeting up one day.
definitely would be cool to have all of the Rogers guys meet together!


Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: seapat on June 09, 2015, 11:00:40 PM
definitely would be cool to have all of the Rogers guys meet together!
I talked with Eddie, he has the face book tribute sight for Rogers, he said if I ever wanted to try to have a get together, He would post on his page. How many active scjb Rogers guys do you know of?
This should be a new post see if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on June 10, 2015, 06:53:52 AM
This boat now belongs to 76 Bonneville.


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Parked in the stable with the rest of the Rogers.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76Rogers on June 10, 2015, 08:17:51 AM

I talked with Eddie, he has the face book tribute sight for Rogers, he said if I ever wanted to try to have a get together, He would post on his page. How many active scjb Rogers guys do you know of?
This should be a new post see if anyone is interested.
I don't know too many other Rogers owners. I'm still fairly new to scjb. Would like to meet some fellow Rogers owners soon though. And 76 Bonneville, do you have any big plans for it? Would be cool to see some before and after pictures throughout the process.


Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on June 10, 2015, 08:19:18 AM
Parked in the stable with the rest of the Rogers.

How many are you up to now?
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: Maker on June 10, 2015, 11:54:33 AM
76 Bonneville 18 open bow
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on June 10, 2015, 12:40:50 PM
How many are you up to now?
Only 5 Brad, sold a couple.
18' Cyclone (Raspberry)
2- 18' Super Cyclones (possibly a 3rd this summer)
19 Bonneville TR
20' Bonneville Classic

The 3rd Super Cyclone would be the one I drove back in 1972 when I was 11.
Have to get to Minnesota to pick it up.
It's in a field with weeds growing out of it.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76Rogers on June 10, 2015, 01:11:39 PM

76 Bonneville 18 open bow
Was that on Craigslist a little while ago?


Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: CJ 417 on June 10, 2015, 01:34:36 PM
Ron,
        surprised you did not find this Rogers first. :) I am saving your story about my Rogers until I get pics on and write up some stories. Been quite busy going to Burley  finishing race boat. Just running a 8.1 496 with 9:1 and Cam. Need more seat time to complete license! Maybe I can buy another Rogers for boat number 4!
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: B.CR33CH on June 10, 2015, 03:15:24 PM

Ron,
        surprised you did not find this Rogers first. :) I am saving your story about my Rogers until I get pics on and write up some stories. Been quite busy going to Burley  finishing race boat. Just running a 8.1 496 with 9:1 and Cam. Need more seat time to complete license! Maybe I can buy another Rogers for boat number 4!
I'm sure ron would have found it first but it wasn't even for sale. It had been sitting in my coworkers back yard for years, I went over there and took it off his hands. Once I said it was for sale Ron was the first call I got. I'm glad it went to him, he's a super cool guy.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: Maker on June 10, 2015, 03:23:55 PM
Yeah I picked it up last July
Title: Dragstar
Post by: fastnlight on June 10, 2015, 07:43:49 PM
You guys will get a kick oout of this Rogers.  Its a 1977 Dragstar.  468, blown, injected.  Bought this about a year ago and havent' even had it on the water.  Not getting a spark.  It was raced at Lake Ming in the early 90's.  Maybe if there is a Roger's regatta it will give me the incentive to resurect this beast!
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: jimpen on June 10, 2015, 08:02:39 PM

You guys will get a kick oout of this Rogers.  Its a 1977 Dragstar.  468, blown, injected.  Bought this about a year ago and havent' even had it on the water.  Not getting a spark.  It was raced at Lake Ming in the early 90's.  Maybe if there is a Roger's regatta it will give me the incentive to resurect this beast!
. That is a real nice boat that needs to be on the water.


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Title: Re: Dragstar
Post by: 76 Bonneville on June 10, 2015, 08:16:55 PM
You guys will get a kick oout of this Rogers.  Its a 1977 Dragstar.  468, blown, injected.  Bought this about a year ago and havent' even had it on the water.  Not getting a spark.  It was raced at Lake Ming in the early 90's.  Maybe if there is a Roger's regatta it will give me the incentive to resurect this beast!

Was this the one that was for sale in the Reno area?
Would love to get a Dragstar one day.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: HDriderTH on June 10, 2015, 08:26:21 PM
Check the points in the mag....
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: seapat on June 10, 2015, 08:34:55 PM
Only 5 Brad, sold a couple.
18' Cyclone (Raspberry)
2- 18' Super Cyclones (possibly a 3rd this summer)
19 Bonneville TR
20' Bonneville Classic

The 3rd Super Cyclone would be the one I drove back in 1972 when I was 11.
Have to get to Minnesota to pick it up.
It's in a field with weeds growing out of it.
Love the lemon and lime color scheme. Post a picture of your Bonneville TR. That is what I have.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on June 10, 2015, 08:38:08 PM
Love the lemon and lime color scheme. Post a picture of your Bonneville TR. That is what I have.
From a couple months ago
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: fastnlight on June 10, 2015, 08:41:40 PM

Was this the one that was for sale in the Reno area?
Would love to get a Dragstar one day.
Yes it was the one in Reno. I'd love to get a TR someday!


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on June 10, 2015, 08:43:37 PM
Yes it was the one in Reno. I'd love to get a TR someday!


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Maybe a trade in the future?
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: seapat on June 10, 2015, 08:44:08 PM
From a couple months ago
that I'd a sweet picture, airing it out. Is that a full droop and diverter?
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: fastnlight on June 10, 2015, 08:47:10 PM

Maybe a trade in the future?
You read my mind. Where is Valley Center?


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76 Bonneville on June 10, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
You read my mind. Where is Valley Center?


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San Diego
I'll keep an eye out for another 19. Maybe a trade, less power.
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: fastnlight on June 10, 2015, 09:57:13 PM

San Diego
I'll keep an eye out for another 19. Maybe a trade, less power.
Yeah, something to think about on the trade. Those 19's are hard to find. I looked for awhile on one of those nationwide Craigslist search engines. Thanks for looking.


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Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: 76Rogers on June 10, 2015, 10:36:10 PM
19' Bonneville Bubbledeck TR
Picked it up about 3 years ago from some guy in Apple Valley.


Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: HDriderTH on June 11, 2015, 09:42:06 AM
...and set plug gap to .018-.020
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: seapat on June 11, 2015, 12:59:20 PM
Nice TR, very clean all white
Title: Re: rogers jet boat
Post by: Maker on June 12, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
I just bought my Rogers last summer    I only had it out a few times due to rusty fuel tanks plugging the fuel filter.  What kind of mph and HP are you guys running.  I was spinning an A to 4700 with a very mild olds. 461  9.55:1  stock heads with large valves for an olds   offenhauser tunnel ram with 2 660 center squirters and log manifolds.  The only change is the addition of headers  and roller rockers
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