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v10 ford in
« on: January 12, 2010, 04:36:30 PM »
since i work at ford, and acess to parts is easy, has anyone ever put a v10 in a boat? pros? cons?
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2010, 05:17:35 PM »
The triton v-10 was the biggest pos ever invented! That's my 02 I seen v-8ls have more torque....I'm sure you know how small the pistons are in that puppy seems like a bad gas hog = perfect for a jet boat haha! On the other hand I have a friend selling a blower manifold for a v-10 would be interesting, but imho I don't think it is worth it a couple of reasons weight being the main one, and 2 you will half to run the ecm computer, and convert everything to the injection system, but mostly weight.....I would stick with the lovely tune of a bb of your choice! Again this is my 2 cents....one other thing would be a bitch figuring out how to mount the motor, and run water lines, also exhaust, and loosing the room you got in it....
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 08:29:56 PM »
X2 I would NOT run a V10 in a boat. I used to work for ford and those came in all the time with spark plugs blown out the the heads. Second of all they are only a 6.8 liter. A stock big block chevy is 7.4 and a ford 460 is a 7.5. You would have to install the computer, ALL of the wiring, 02 sensors, and the rest of the crap, not to mention an indicator assy like they have in the truck, because aftermarket gauges are not compatible with the stock voltages the dash uses. If you had a problem with the engine youd have to plug a computer into it to see what the issue was, plus ud have to run a custom fuel injection setup. I would run a 5.4 V8 if you were gonna run anything because I have seen some intake manifolds for those that accept a carb. They also don't like being reved too high. im not bad mouthing the V10 because it was a descent motor in a truck or van, and I have wondered the same thinng myself, I just think it wouldn't be worth the work.
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 08:36:33 PM »
IDK, I think it could be cool  8)


Found this badboy.. :o

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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 08:43:33 PM »
that things bad ass, but why does it still have the holes for the injectors in it? I wonder if someone makes a Dizzy for the V10 because I know they make one for the 4.6 and 5.4 that run off of one of the cams and it sits sideways. Hmmm, now u got me wondering lol thanks guys.
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 08:49:25 PM »
looks like someone welded a chinga dera on the original chinga dera....the injector chinga deras are probably welded closed
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 09:16:54 PM »
That's what I was told also about the plugs blowing out on the v10 when I asked about.  My 5.4 blowing a plug :banghead:
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 09:20:55 PM »
Quote from: Nordie on January 12, 2010, 05:17:35 PM
The triton v-10 was the biggest pos ever invented! That's my 02 I seen v-8ls have more torque....I'm sure you know how small the pistons are in that puppy seems like a bad gas hog = perfect for a jet boat haha! On the other hand I have a friend selling a blower manifold for a v-10 would be interesting, but imho I don't think it is worth it a couple of reasons weight being the main one, and 2 you will half to run the ecm computer, and convert everything to the injection system, but mostly weight.....I would stick with the lovely tune of a bb of your choice! Again this is my 2 cents....one other thing would be a bitch figuring out how to mount the motor, and run water lines, also exhaust, and loosing the room you got in it....

i was going to make a sheet metal intake with two 1000 cfm throttle bodies, and a scoop. my buddy builds custom headers for a living and said he would love to build them. i have a v10 that weighs 635 pounds to a bbc 685. it is a 3 valve 345 hp/515 ft lbs of torque. revs to 5800. my guy at work can make the stock pcm work. i can tap into the tach lead, run mech oil, volt, temp guages. water lines are not that hard. I think it would be different and fun. Should i go for it?
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 09:22:35 PM »
Quote from: 76NORDIC on January 12, 2010, 09:16:54 PM
That's what I was told also about the plugs blowing out on the v10 when I asked about.  My 5.4 blowing a plug :banghead:
they dont blow out for no reason and yes the 6.8 and 5.4 have the same prob. usually happens after installing new plugs and not buying factory. have never seen one blow out with a factory plug.
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 09:23:05 PM »
Quote from: GT Jets on January 12, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
IDK, I think it could be cool  8)


Found this badboy.. :o

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where did you find that?????
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 09:48:08 PM »
Quote from: filterbiz on January 12, 2010, 09:23:05 PM
where did you find that?????

My bud had a V10 that kicked our ass (turned out to be an intermittent knock sensor...) and we checked this site out...   http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142443   

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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Quote from: IRRebel on June 11, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2010, 10:09:47 PM »
I say go for it if you have all those connections to make it work!
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2010, 10:18:02 PM »
I agree! We're all about doing something different! The problems with the Triton V-10 we saw at U-Hual as well, but mostly our biggest problem was broken exhaust studs. That shouldn't effect a boat with headers w/supports on them.

The "Blowing out" of the spark plugs did happen, but in Q/C we found and concluded it was a problem of our own making (During PM's at 30k miles we changed spark plugs on every vehicle. They are blind and VERY difficult to get to, particularly in van bodies, and stripping them out happened a LOT).

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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 01:37:08 AM »
screw it man, go for it, that would be pretty interesting. Ull have to have an adapter made for the driveline U joint, and some mounts but if you think u can make it work itdd be really interesting to see. One thing to consider when making headers is you WILL want to build some back pressure. Big block fords and big block chevys dont care if you dont have back pressure, but from experience I found that the V10's 5.4's and 4.6's run like absolute SHIT if you dont have some kind of device on them to create back pressure, like a muffler. My stang HATED open headers and thats with the 4.6 or 5.4. I think it would be bad ass if you got the V10 to work in a boat. Ull just have to shorten the wiring harness quite a bit. Hell, lol if you end up using the stock EFI setup you could reprogram the PCM like you would if it was in a car or truck, and get some more balls out of it. U will most likely want to make a marine pan for more capacity for it as those modular motors will not tolerate ANY lack of oil pressure fluctuation under load. Good luck if you decide to go thru with it and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

Andy
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 01:38:42 AM »
if you do happen to have the heads off for ANy reason while you are putting it together take them to a machine shop and have inserts put in all the spark plug holes. Its a hell of alot easier to get at when they are off lol.
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 06:28:39 AM »
I don't know how well the V10 would hold up to extended high RPM use, but it sounds like it would be worth a try.

I would ditch the original electronics and get an aftermarket engine management system like Wolf or Electromotive.  With their systems you won't have to try to rig the stock stuff and will have control over engine mapping for FI and ignition.  At minimum if you want to run a carb is coming up with a distributorless ignition system (not hard to do).

www.electromotive-inc.com

www.wolfems.com
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 07:41:25 AM »
Quote from: maddogg20 on January 13, 2010, 01:37:08 AM
screw it man, go for it, that would be pretty interesting. Ull have to have an adapter made for the driveline U joint, and some mounts but if you think u can make it work itdd be really interesting to see. One thing to consider when making headers is you WILL want to build some back pressure. Big block fords and big block chevys dont care if you dont have back pressure, but from experience I found that the V10's 5.4's and 4.6's run like absolute SHIT if you dont have some kind of device on them to create back pressure, like a muffler. My stang HATED open headers and thats with the 4.6 or 5.4. I think it would be bad ass if you got the V10 to work in a boat. Ull just have to shorten the wiring harness quite a bit. Hell, lol if you end up using the stock EFI setup you could reprogram the PCM like you would if it was in a car or truck, and get some more balls out of it. U will most likely want to make a marine pan for more capacity for it as those modular motors will not tolerate ANY lack of oil pressure fluctuation under load. Good luck if you decide to go thru with it and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

Andy
i was going to machine a new pto adapter with a belt groove in it and run the alt off it. still putting some cost together. may just finish the eliminator as planned with the bbc since i have everything. i may buy a new project, something that good shape ready for an engine.
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Re: v10 ford in
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2010, 07:48:17 AM »
Sounds like an interesting project. You are thinking outside the box which is cool. When I started my BBC EFI blower project, a lot of people (not here) were saying just to put carbs on it and go. I was like no way, yes there were many frustrating moments and still have some as well. What is cool is when you are at a sand bar you can step back and say “I built this and it works” while other people ask what is it.

On another note, water injected headers and 02 sensors do not work. The answer to this would be to run them dry, but some states do not allow that. So the other alternative is to remove the “feedback” to the PCM, but I do not think a factory PCM can do that, so you would need to run an aftermarket EFI set up.

If you do go this route take a lot of pics and documentation and post it here…..:)

T.J.
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