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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: GlassCutter on July 05, 2012, 04:11:35 PM
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I know the 6.0 Powerstroke has a lot of problems. A local GM dealer has a 2004 DRW Lariet with just under 100K miles for $18,000. Assuming nothing has been done yet, what am I looking at to do preventatively? Costs? I don't expect to keep it a long time but I do want to drive to Alaska next summer. Any experience with real world mileage info would be nice too.
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Bulletproofdiesel.com that will fix a 6.0
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buy an autogauge II. make sure that once the motor is warm drive on the freeway with cruise set at 65 mph. engine oil temp and engine coolant temp should be within 10 degrees of each other. if they are more then that you have a clogged oil cooler.
dad has a 05 excursion with the 6.0. all stock motor. has aftermarket tires and wheels. 33" tires and were getting 14 mpg.
His next thing to do is buy an extended warranty aka bulletproof diesel system
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all bs aside. your better getting a gm. fords just dont have the resale value. and i dont think there turbo systems are all that great unless you go aftermarket.
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I am a bad example because of the low mileage on my truck (just turned 30,000 miles) but I have a 2005 PSD F250 4X4 crew cab that I just took to Burley Idaho towing a pop up trailer that weighs a little over 3000lbs. We averaged 17.2 MPG and had the cruise set for 75MPH with the AC on and went to 4000 feet elevation 3 1/2 hours into the trip. This was a 13 hour drive.
I have had one problem with the truck when it was brand new (under 6000 miles) and it was fixed under warranty (they replaced the turbo charger) other than that, oil changes and fuel filters is all that has ever been done to it.
When I took it to Bakersfield to Ming a couple of years ago I had averaged 23.5 MPG and we went about 68 MPH (RPM's right at 2,000) which seems to be the sweet spot.
I have to put tires on it real soon and am going to go a couple inches taller to try to get the ideal cruising speed up to 72MPH....
You couldn't get this truck out of my hands without a fight....
GT
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glass Cutter.
Make sure you buy a ford so I can take care of any issues you may have.
theres a few guys on this board that can attest that i make sure you are on the road and as light on the pocket book as possible.
All manufactures have their issues but at least you have someone you can trust if you are ever in a pickle.
chris
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glass Cutter.
Make sure you buy a ford so I can take care of any issues you may have.
theres a few guys on this board that can attest that i make sure you are on the road and as light on the pocket book as possible.
All manufactures have their issues but at least you have someone you can trust if you are ever in a pickle.
chris
Do u also work on Chevy's if so pm ur # I need some advice on a few things
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Do u also work on Chevy's if so pm ur # I need some advice on a few things
Everybody keeps telling me Chevy's don't break.... ::)
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ha! i did not say chevys dont break, they do. but ... lets look at r
the resale value of each truck. fords on the bottom. hell dodge has a better resale than ford! and you know why cause they rattle and squeak and the interior is crap after 3 years.sorry ford guys but its true. dont get me wrong i love super dutys. just wont buy one.
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I will never personally buy a chevy truck gas or diesel. My 04 work truck has been nothing but a head ache since day one. When it comes to the six oh theres a few things that can be done and the best place to go ask questions is powerstrokearmy.com.
Fat fingered from the phone- Corey
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Plan on doing the heads/ studs kit, they WILL go, just sayin. Go Get a 7.3 powerstroke, Mine has just under 500,000 miles, I plan on keeping it to 750k. Bangs out 21-22 empty, day cruiser (4500 lb) 17-18, 12k lb equipment trailer, 13-14. ALL stock,,3.55 gears, exept the kitty ran away and muffler fell out. ;D
Daniel
Mash on it
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Everybody keeps telling me Chevy's don't break.... ::)
They don't but I'm wanting to do mods to increase power I love my 05 2500hd it has been a good truck and bullet proof at everything I put it threw
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glass Cutter.
Make sure you buy a ford so I can take care of any issues you may have.
theres a few guys on this board that can attest that i make sure you are on the road and as light on the pocket book as possible.
All manufactures have their issues but at least you have someone you can trust if you are ever in a pickle.
chris
What dealer you work for Chris ??? I have been having some problems
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Hey John, My guys have gotten pretty good at diagnosing and repairing the Power Stroke but have very little experience with the Duramax. What does that tell you ;)
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Ouch Keith :sly:
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Transwest ford truck center in Fontana
Give me a call, always glad to help out
Chris
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Do u also work on Chevy's if so pm ur # I need some advice on a few things
Yes, I have a gm trained tech he does all our duramax
We are also a warranty facility for
Cat,cummins.freightliner,Detroit,sterling,Mitsubishi Fuso, john Deere
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Ouch Keith :sly:
Ford trucks have been very good for my shop.
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I know the 6.0 Powerstroke has a lot of problems. A local GM dealer has a 2004 DRW Lariet with just under 100K miles for $18,000. Assuming nothing has been done yet, what am I looking at to do preventatively? Costs? I don't expect to keep it a long time but I do want to drive to Alaska next summer. Any experience with real world mileage info would be nice too.
If your going to ALASKA next year you have to pass within a couple of miles of my place .you better plan on stopping in. :thumbup:
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buy an autogauge II. make sure that once the motor is warm drive on the freeway with cruise set at 65 mph. engine oil temp and engine coolant temp should be within 10 degrees of each other. if they are more then that you have a clogged oil cooler.
dad has a 05 excursion with the 6.0. all stock motor. has aftermarket tires and wheels. 33" tires and were getting 14 mpg.
His next thing to do is buy an extended warranty aka bulletproof diesel system
I'll bite.....WTF is an autogauge II?
I have the Bully Dog Watch Dog, but have actually never installed it.....Same thing? :-\
GT
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If im not mistakin Its a gauge that plugs into your obs port and can view anything. Pretty bitchin. I have 3 aero force scan gauges, their similar gauges but different company.
Fat fingered from the phone- Corey
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I'll bite.....WTF is an autogauge II?
I have the Bully Dog Watch Dog, but have actually never installed it.....Same thing? :-\
GT
same thing except its smaller and not LCD. and about half the price. $115 or so from autozone
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Aeroforce scangauge, coolant filter, no chips or tuners.
I miss my 7.3...
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i have a f350 that has been rolling on 38s since it was born. just about to turn 100k on the odo. no major problems. i had a fan clutch go out but that was about it
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I'm with Tony. Actually, I think our trucks are the same year, etc. HOWEVER, mine isn't nearly as tricked out or nice as his. Stock wheels, no lift, vinyl floors (I can simply hose it out after a trip). Trucks are trucks to me, not a statement. BUT, very happy with it!
But no major issues with it, 155k miles, I had to have the FICM (hadda get a definition also, Fuel Injection Control Module) replaced 2 summers ago, cost me $1600, and I had the front suspension rebuilt (4x4, and had an exteme intermittent shimmy issue at highway speeds, mostly when towing) THAT cost me $4 grand, but then find out I got ripped off because I got a letter from Ford addressing the VERY same issue 6 months later. They listed the EXACT problem I was experiencing, and that the solutions were due to improper tires, and/or improper tire pressure)
We're in a lawsuit with the dealer on the 4k. I'm the kinda guy you DON'T wanna do that to. I'll spend 10k over the 4k you ripped me off for, and in the end will cost you 20k+ for doing it even though I'll never see that money again.
But, I have no complaints with my '97 F350! Good truck! The mileage, cannot be beat! I can head to Vegas, from here in Phoenix, and drive THAT god awful road, set the cruise at 70, and up over hill, dale, curves, mountains, etc, A/C on MAX, the only guage that moves is the boost guage, and I've gotten 20MPG dong so trailering a boat. Did 23MPG trailering to Big River this past fathers day weekend, beleive it or not! My brothers FIL has a Dodge Cummins he drives to here from Iowa all the time and can't belive the mileage I get.
Ray
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What was the last year for the 7.3 ? I keep hearing people say such good things about them, and really nothing bad. An older truck would fit my budget better, I need a long bed AND a big backseat, and mileage is my prime motivation. I expect I would sell it when we finish the trip as I already have the Mega.
I have a friend who has just about got Momma talked into driving to the Arctic Circle for the Summer solstice next June. Our kids are the right age and if you are gonna go to Alaska, ya might as well see Alaska. I figure a 20mpg 5 passenger Clark Griswold special is just the ticket. Although dragging a trailer might be a better way to go. Dunno, we'll see what happens.
So who has the bigger back seat, Ford or GM? My kids are getting bigger by the day. :mad:
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03 being the last. 6.oh came out 03.5
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fords have the biggest cab other then the maga cab, 03.5 was the death of the 7.3l when your looking the vin number for the 7.3l is the 10th letter need to be a F, i looked for 6 months and finaly found the truck i wanted, i just got it in jan 2012 its a 2002 f250 excab longbed with 74000 miles, some grandpa owned it. you just have to look everyday and find the right truck but never get a 6.0. i am a ford guy "till i die" but i am really sorry they came out with that motor. i rather push my ford then drive my sisters truck. :beer:
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ya i pull with the cruz at 68 with no problems. if i am pulling the boat i get about 14 mpg without the boat i get 17mpg. and that is not bad if you have ever seen how big my truck is. lol
I am interested in this bulletproof kit though. just cause i like gadgets and aftermarket stuff. And i do get an egr engine code everyonce in a while. I used to clean out the egr vavle and the engine light would go away for a while. but it always comes back with the same code eventually. So no i just let it ride. the light will be on for a few weeks then go off for a few weeks.
So for this bullet proof kit do you need to buy the oil cooler or the egr cooler or both?
My truck has every mod that banks makes for it installed and the stupid egr code has always been a little problem that bugs me
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ya i pull with the cruz at 68 with no problems. if i am pulling the boat i get about 14 mpg without the boat i get 17mpg. and that is not bad if you have ever seen how big my truck is. lol
I am interested in this bulletproof kit though. just cause i like gadgets and aftermarket stuff. And i do get an egr engine code everyonce in a while. I used to clean out the egr vavle and the engine light would go away for a while. but it always comes back with the same code eventually. So no i just let it ride. the light will be on for a few weeks then go off for a few weeks.
So for this bullet proof kit do you need to buy the oil cooler or the egr cooler or both?
My truck has every mod that banks makes for it installed and the stupid egr code has always been a little problem that bugs me
You should just get the whole kit fix the things that go bad. the BulletProofDiesel kit gets rid of the oil/coolant heat transfer system.
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Banks is your problem if your running their chip. Their " tuning" does nothing but trick the computer into fueling harder by screwing with icp signal and a few other sensors I can't remember. Your best bet is custom tuning on a 6 position chip from swamps, php ( power hungry performance), tony wildman (ts performance). They tune engine parameters and transmission shit points and what not. Best bang for your buck and they will tune the truck for what ever has been done ( exhaust, intake, injectors, big oil mods) and will safely get more power without trashing the transmission. And stay away from DP tunes.
Fat fingered from the phone- Corey
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im running the banks 6 gun tuner
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i dont remember what that cooler kit costs. isnt it like 2500 bucks or something. add another grand for installation and we are probably close to 4k all said and done. that is kind of steep. but if it works i am sure it is well worth it.
does anyone on here have it installed and have any feed back on it yet
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My dad had the triple dog from bully dog installed at the Mopars at the strip event in Vegas by Bully Dog themselves on a 05 3500 GMC. Its been great. I think it was $800. It pulls his 34' travel trailer like its a kite. That the only upgrade he has. He can get 19-22 mpg unloaded on the stock tune.
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Just talked to my buddy has a 04 f250 diesel and he was on his way home from Laughlin and his EGR cooler went out the truck has 97,000 on it and dealer says 4g for repair is that a normal cost or too much???
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Lucky it wasn't 67,000 mi and $8K, and needing a set of heads. Son in laws 6.oh oh. over $32k in a '05 that he didnt trust, and wouldn't drive out of town.
I will gladly tow your 6.0 with my 7.3, 470K on the clock >:D
Daniel
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for 4k you could get that egr cooler kit from bulletproof and call it a day.
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I'll pass it on see what he says
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One word. Cummins!
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One word. Cummins!
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Can't argue that, strong motors. I'd be partial to the 12 valves cause they run forever but ya get no technology in anything with a 12er.. steer clear of the #53 blocks, more common on the early 24v's but some late 12's have them. Few guys in my ol diesel club had a coolant loss problem from cracking blocks. I'm almost leary on the newer stuff cause of the unknowns and more shit to go haywire. My mercruiser tech buddy has got a 2010 6.4l Ferd that is a champion with comfort and ample power...
LML Slurramax's are nice, but not so much on fuel econ.. guys that had them I know drove em too damn hard to get accurate mileage readings. The dude with the 6.4 got 21mpg to Parker and back with 800lbs(nothing) with air conditioner full blast idling around camp.. you really have to have a NEED for torque to justify ownership on any diesel... Otherwise I'd still have mine.
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My boss's kid works for Cummins, told me that engine was designed for lots more power than it puts out. They seriously detuned it for street use. I had two customer's when I worked for Dodge that had over million miles with nothing but the valve covers off at anytime. One hauled horses back and forth across the US for racing and averaged 18mpg with 18k trailer. Showed me his fuel log or I would've never believed it. He did go through 3 transmissions & clutches during that time (what my dealer was replacing when he stopped in). I hated Dodge for a lot of years, but now I drive an 05 Hemi. They've come a long way since I worked for them. I was raised Chevy and I have mad respect for the superior BBF over BBC, but when it comes to diesel I got to give it to Cummins. Now if one of the Big 3 drops a kitty Cat under the hood, I'll switch up in a heartbeat. I think they're the shizznit!!! JMHO
Sam
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My boss's kid works for Cummins, told me that engine was designed for lots more power than it puts out. They seriously detuned it for street use. I had two customer's when I worked for Dodge that had over million miles with nothing but the valve covers off at anytime. One hauled horses back and forth across the US for racing and averaged 18mpg with 18k trailer. Showed me his fuel log or I would've never believed it. He did go through 3 transmissions & clutches during that time (what my dealer was replacing when he stopped in). I hated Dodge for a lot of years, but now I drive an 05 Hemi. They've come a long way since I worked for them. I was raised Chevy and I have mad respect for the superior BBF over BBC, but when it comes to diesel I got to give it to Cummins. Now if one of the Big 3 drops a kitty Cat under the hood, I'll switch up in a heartbeat. I think they're the shizznit!!! JMHO
Sam
Cat no longer builds DOT diesels...FYI :thumbdown:
I guess i should elaborate...They teamed up with the makers of the Powerstroke, Navistar... :sly:
You think Ford came up with the new motor..
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Found it...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/06/12/us-caterpillar-idUSN1230003120080612 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/06/12/us-caterpillar-idUSN1230003120080612)
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Ain't they just talkin big boy tractors though?
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