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Title: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 13, 2012, 09:07:13 PM
[attach=1]Hey guys, new to the forum. I will be inheritting a boat rather soon from a close family friend and only have pictures. I am trying to figure out exactly what boat it is and if anybody knows. Please see the pics and let me know as much as possible. Manufacturer, pump options. Year. I know the motor is a bbc 454 with some sort of jet pump(dont know which maybe that can be answered).
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: GlassCutter on July 13, 2012, 09:12:55 PM
Look on the back (transm) down low for the HIN i.d. number.  What are the first 3 or 4 letters?  Can't tell you abou the pump without a pic of it tho.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 13, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
Look on the back (transm) down low for the HIN i.d. number.  What are the first 3 or 4 letters?  Can't tell you abou the pump without a pic of it tho.

I dont have the boat yet and i am trying to learn what i can about it before it got here. Hoping somebody would know by looking at it. Heres a couple more pics
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: SoCalPSD on July 13, 2012, 09:40:32 PM
You got a pic of the transom

Fat fingered from the phone- Corey
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 13, 2012, 09:53:49 PM
You got a pic of the transom

Fat fingered from the phone- Corey

This is the last pic i got. My mom took these pics months ago.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on July 13, 2012, 10:00:38 PM
I venture to say sleeky...

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Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 14, 2012, 08:58:13 AM
I venture to say sleeky...

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I googled sleekcraft and some of the boats do look very similar. If it is a sleekcraft do you know of any pitfalls with the boat i should be worried about? Did they stick to one jet or a multitude? I am pretty sure the owner hasnt done any mods so it should be a stock boat.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: HDriderTH on July 14, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
Doesnt look anything like my '76 Sleek
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: crewchief22 on July 14, 2012, 10:46:11 AM
I've done some searching around the web and haven't been able to find another boat with that style deck.  Several manufacturers built them with the double bubble type deck but nothing like that.

Most manufacturers would install any jet per client request... meaning that if a person ordered  the boat and requested a Berk pump or a Jacuzzi pump that's what would go in it. 

The engine/jet combo is important but can be altered if necessary.  The more important things you're going to want to know about are the condition of the hull, stringers, transom wood, floors, fuel tanks, electronics/wiring... 

When you take on a project like this you need to plan on how much money you can afford to put toward getting it done.  Then after a thorough inspection, estimate what it will take to bring it back to a useable boat (then double it $$$).

If you're not willing or able to put the money into it you'd be better off to get rid of it before you spend any money on it.  If you decide it's gonna cost you $8000-10,000 to rebuild and you can find another nice boat for $6500-$7500 you need to rethink what you want to do.


Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 14, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Doesnt look anything like my '76 Sleek

I did a little sleekcraft research on google and found a ton of pictures...but none are exactly the same style as the one in the pictures. If it is a sleek it seems that it would have ended up with a berkely pump according to some of the dealer price lists ive seen from the late 70's early 80's.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 14, 2012, 01:23:24 PM
I've done some searching around the web and haven't been able to find another boat with that style deck.  Several manufacturers built them with the double bubble type deck but nothing like that.

Most manufacturers would install a jet per client request... meaning that if a person ordered  the boat and requested a Berk pump or a Jacuzzi pump that's what would go in it. 

The engine/jet combo is important but can be altered if necessary.  The more important things you're going to want to know about are the condition of the hull, stringers, transom wood, floors, fuel tanks, electronics/wiring... 

When you take on a project like this you need to plan on how much money you can afford to put toward getting it done.  Then after a thorough inspection, estimate what it will take to bring it back to a useable boat (then double it $$$).

If you're not willing or able to put the money into it you'd be better off to get rid of it before you spend any money on it.  If you decide it's gonna cost you $8000-10,000 to rebuild and you can find another nice boat for $6500-$7500 you need to rethink what you want to do.

I am hoping that the boat is in good condition minus the 9 year rubber rot from not being used. I know there are alot of hopes and dreams but isnt that what america was based on? The PO bought this boat a while back with his business partner as a family thing to do; after his partner dies the boat sat. i have been told that it was in excellent working condition prior. What all should i look for in a boat that sat for 9 years under a carport in southern california?
Title: Re: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on July 14, 2012, 02:16:06 PM
What all should i look for in a boat that sat for 9 years under a carport in southern california?

A potato sack full of cash under the deck and a solid floor.

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Title: Re: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 14, 2012, 04:41:51 PM
A potato sack full of cash under the deck and a solid floor.

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although that would be awesome i am going to go with...not likely.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: GlassCutter on July 15, 2012, 09:00:57 AM
AGAIN -  get the HIN off the back of it.  Then you will at least know who made it   And that will probably be the only question we can answer for you with certainty.  Everything else  is caveat emptor.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: mash on it on July 15, 2012, 11:10:29 AM
I've seen several with the double step on the deck, rounded like that. Campbell comes to mind, and howard too, but could be a splash too, maybe omega?
Like has been said, get the H.I.N. Nos. or the most recent registration

Daniel
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: Howard19 on July 16, 2012, 07:02:22 AM
possibly a campbell or a hallit   :sly:
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on July 16, 2012, 07:12:55 AM
Doubt its a Hallett

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Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: USCvictory on July 16, 2012, 07:53:13 AM
Could it be an old SKV?
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 21, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
 :D Exciting to find out the boat type. Its a 1976 Kona 22' Leward Stage II 454 BBC with berk pump. Check out the ad below. Looks identical. [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 21, 2012, 10:30:34 PM
Is there anything specific about the boat above that i should watch out for? Just trying to be prepared for everything.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: crewchief22 on July 22, 2012, 08:38:45 AM
The more important things you're going to want to know about are the condition of the hull, stringers, transom wood, floors, fuel tanks, electronics/wiring... 

You can't narrow your vision to just a couple items because the whole package is old and will need a lot of work.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 22, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
You can't narrow your vision to just a couple items because the whole package is old and will need a lot of work.

i not intending to narrow my vision to a couple of things. i am sure it will need to be completely looked over(i have no problem with this since im an somewhat mechanical and hands on with other project). My question was more of a question of what was goofy with these boats when they were new/somewhat used.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: crewchief22 on July 22, 2012, 09:00:23 AM
You'll probably never find any serious information about that hull specifically.  The only information you might get will be stuff like "we had one when I was a kid, had lots of fun" or "it pulled several skiers with no problems", all pointless info.

Kona built a decent quality hull, but what I'm trying to tell you is that it really doesn't matter what hull you start with, just check it out before you start dumping money into it.  ;D
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: IRRebel on July 22, 2012, 09:57:48 AM
You'll probably never find any serious information about that hull specifically.  The only information you might get will be stuff like "we had one when I was a kid, had lots of fun" or "it pulled several skiers with no problems", all pointless info.

Kona built a decent quality hull, but what I'm trying to tell you is that it really doesn't matter what hull you start with, just check it out before you start dumping money into it.  ;D

X2. Pretty easy to put good money after bad. While Kona is a good, solid boat, it'll never bring the slightly higher resale value of a name like, Hallett, Sanger, Nordic,Sleekcraft or Southwind.

That's not to say it's not a worthwhile project! Seems all there and if the stringers/floor, etc are good, I'd build the snot out of it!   :thumbup:

On a 21'-23' daycruiser, kinda hard to have built in "weirdness". They were all splashed off one another, for the most part. Not gonna build up enough speed to show any real hull design flaws (Such as porposing, etc) that you would find pretty quickly in an 18' boat with high HP applied. It's a cruiser. Just make sure it's solid, safe, throw some respectable, low maintenance HP at it and have fun!

Ray 

Edit: wanted to throw in there, it looks VERY much like a splash of a Hallett bottom with the roundness of the nose, etc. The step-deck looks Sleek-ish, but the upper tier more like a bubble deck. Pretty unique and done well! Given the right paint scheme could be a really sweet float!
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 22, 2012, 10:24:33 AM
You'll probably never find any serious information about that hull specifically.  The only information you might get will be stuff like "we had one when I was a kid, had lots of fun" or "it pulled several skiers with no problems", all pointless info.

Kona built a decent quality hull, but what I'm trying to tell you is that it really doesn't matter what hull you start with, just check it out before you start dumping money into it.  ;D

After helping my father in-law rebuild a 1,000 searay i/o that sat for fifteen years uncovered...i am excited/dreading checking everything on the boat. His mistake was; get the boat running on the trailer. take it out. Found too many issues that should have been caught on the trailer. Made it an interesting weekend.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 22, 2012, 10:27:58 AM
X2. Pretty easy to put good money after bad. While Kona is a good, solid boat, it'll never bring the slightly higher resale value of a name like, Hallett, Sanger, Nordic,Sleekcraft or Southwind.

That's not to say it's not a worthwhile project! Seems all there and if the stringers/floor, etc are good, I'd build the snot out of it!   :thumbup:

On a 21'-23' daycruiser, kinda hard to have built in "weirdness". They were all splashed off one another, for the most part. Not gonna build up enough speed to show any real hull design flaws (Such as porposing, etc) that you would find pretty quickly in an 18' boat with high HP applied. It's a cruiser. Just make sure it's solid, safe, throw some respectable, low maintenance HP at it and have fun!

Ray 

Edit: wanted to throw in there, it looks VERY much like a splash of a Hallett bottom with the roundness of the nose, etc. The step-deck looks Sleek-ish, but the upper tier more like a bubble deck. Pretty unique and done well! Given the right paint scheme could be a really sweet float!

Good to know. I really want it for family outtings. we have tubes, wakes and skis fomr this searay but this thing doesnt run very well. If this Kona works out to be a great, realiable runner i would be ecstatic. On the plus side; im getting it for free from a close family friend so it wont hurt as bad if i need to wholesale it.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on July 23, 2012, 09:41:07 PM
Does anybody have an idea of how heavy this boat may be? The owner doesnt remember and is currently searching out his paperwork.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: wizard612 on July 23, 2012, 09:55:19 PM
Finding that HIN # will sure help us all out.  I do seem to remember that Sanger made a cruiser with their bubble deck grafted onto the top deck kind of like this one. That HIN # will verify it.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on July 23, 2012, 09:55:52 PM
Heavy, my guess is around 2300+/-

With good power and pump might push 60mph. You'll find most of your driving to be around 30-40 mph, don't need to chine walk to have a good time!

Secure it and get'r runnin.

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Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on August 26, 2012, 09:26:05 PM
Apprently the throttle cable broke back in 96(when this boat was last registered) and was completely removed (and lost). Its, as noted earlier, a 22' Kona with bbc 454, 4 barrel holley. The driver is on the left side. What throttle cable do it need to get? I dont even know where to start.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: skee on August 27, 2012, 03:15:55 PM
Apprently the throttle cable broke back in 96(when this boat was last registered) and was completely removed (and lost). Its, as noted earlier, a 22' Kona with bbc 454, 4 barrel holley. The driver is on the left side. What throttle cable do it need to get? I dont even know where to start.

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Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: zdreamin72 on September 09, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
Even though ive had the boat for quite some time i finally got the HIN Number. Any input is appreciated.

JRS7J7210774-75.

I also got it running a bit. Exciting to know that everything, motor wise, still operates as needed after sitting since 96. Just nee da few more little things and registration and i'll be going for the first test.
Title: Re: what boat is this?
Post by: mash on it on September 09, 2012, 10:38:00 AM
Here it is

http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/jrs-fiberglass-jet-boats/ (http://www.socaljetboats.com/hulls/jrs-fiberglass-jet-boats/)

Kona  :thumbup:

Daniel
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