f boats part 3

« **on:** March 29, 2010, 07:36:41 PM »

boat ran great at mead. got it home, found some bolts loose holing the pump to the flywheel. i tightend those up. now it wont start.

not sure what is going on. more trouble shooting tomorrow. going to the river on thursday and i ahve an all nite class on wed.

last minute tony strikes again

« **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:38:16 PM »

i saw this and got all sad for you! that sucks to hear, but keep on it you'll figure it out! sounds like something with the flywheel or something rather, and starter mesh possibly!

« **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:41:22 PM »

the starter does sound kind of high pitched when it is cranking over. it seems like it is a no spark issue. even with starter fluid i am not geting even a pop

« **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:47:56 PM »

oh sorry tony i know you had to tighten the flywheel so i figured the not starting thing was the fact that it wasnt even cranking over! definately seems like a spark issue...if you got gas and spark she should start....not always the case, but probably something fairly easy my friend

« **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:54:24 PM »

Should be a cakewalk for you! You fixed another boat in less than 10 minutes at Mead with a seriously miswired ignition.

You're running a Pertronix, no?

Ray

« **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2010, 07:58:55 PM »

got all mallary ignition stuff. distributor and coil.

« **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:07:39 PM »

Don't get Brad all fired up on the Mallory thing again! I run all Mallory on mine too, lol. (Pickles an HEI, which is going AWAY!!!)

Probably just the Unilite module went out, possibly the procoil, if that's what you're using. BE careful on the Procoil, only certain models are compatible with the Unilite.

I got a couple modules here, and reluctors, but you can probably find sumpin local quicker.

Ray

« **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:13:56 PM »

ya i am just not sure what happend. it worked fine then one of those bolts came loose and jammed in the flywheel. i got that out of there replaced the starter and now nothing works. going to chase down the voltage tomorrow. and it is on my smart chager for the nite. so i will have full batteries to screw with tomorrow. plus i have one of the local race engine builders coming by to help out. just in case it is not somthing stupid that i am over looking. i am not sure what you are talking about the the unilite and stuff.

i have a mallory distributor and a mallory coil. then that stupid resister thing. that is it. it has always worked before not sure what has changed.

« **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:17:40 PM »

Is it a Unilite? or a dual-point? Now I'm confused.....Why the resistor?

Ray

« **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:18:43 PM »

i dont know the difference between a unilite or a dual point!

« **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:21:55 PM »

i run a ballast on my unilite

« **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:25:11 PM »

ya that is the resister i am talking about. sorry. i am tired and just plain mad.

« **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:29:22 PM »

Ballast not required on a Unilite with a Hyfire 6AL, sorry, running that too, my bad.

Wheres the damn schematic, hold on. Open your cap Tony, if theres points in there, it's a dual point, if Unilite, gonna look like a fan in there on the shaft with a self contained red one piece unit.

http://www.malloryperformance.com/pdf/1214M.pdf

Ray

« **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:33:35 PM »

you are going to either give us a model number on the dizzy or tell us what it looks like under the cap! both are easy and cheap fixes as long as that is what fixes the problem...i know the modules like to fail, and often, and points are also good at failing or when they get wet

« **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:47:52 PM »

Or the rotor burn through and can short to the shaft

« **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:49:49 PM »

the caps are common for breaking the little spring loaded deal that touches the rotor i would investigate that as well

« **Reply #16 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:53:19 PM »

i pull the cap it looks like a standard cap. has the center point that goes to the coil and 8 points that the rotor hits as it swings around in circles. i would look at the model number but it is dark and windy outside and if i look at my boat one more time today i am going to shoot it full of holes.

« **Reply #17 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:57:38 PM »

Quote from: honda1 on March 29, 2010, 08:47:52 PM

Or the rotor burn through and can short to the shaft

Another possibility! Thanks Harry! I carry a spare rotor and module in Moo for the very reasons Harry and Nordie said! Actually a whole dizzy.

Still an easy fix either way Tony. As Nordie said. Keep yer panty hose on, not that big a deal! The description I'm talking about remove the rotor, it'll be apparent.

Ray

« **Reply #18 on:** March 29, 2010, 08:58:26 PM »

when i was looking at it the points inthe cap looked a little corroded s i cleaned them up with some sand paper. as well as the rotor. i noticed that the center point to the coil wire was black. it is not cleaning up well. due to the spring pressure. it makes it hard to clean it. i also noticed that the cap itself right at the center point looked like it got pretty hot down there or there was an arc or something.

« **Reply #19 on:** March 29, 2010, 09:00:19 PM »

i am pretty sure i will have this figured out tomorrow. i am just frustrated tht it beat me today.

« **Reply #20 on:** March 29, 2010, 09:02:34 PM »

Switch the rotor for shits and grins if you have another one

« **Reply #21 on:** March 29, 2010, 09:04:04 PM »

dont have another one handy.but i will do my best to figure this thing out tomororw. keep the ideas coming just in case i hit a road block tomorrow.

« **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:09:05 PM »

found it. i have a mallory unilite and the center conductor on my cap is pretty much gone.

« **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:22:50 PM »

Quote from: Nordie on March 29, 2010, 08:49:49 PM

the caps are common for breaking the little spring loaded deal that touches the rotor i would investigate that as well

just as i suspected! if you cant find it locally you are going to be going by marks shop on the way to the river if im not mistaken...well kinda...i would stop in and get 2 of them caps, and an extra rotor...

cap is 209M

unless you have the marine one...which is blue...you can actually get it, but probably half to order it!

I have seen these caps do this more times then i can count! but i would like to think that was your problem!

« **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2010, 12:23:46 PM »

I had the center point on mine break in two pieces last year, replaced it and no problems since. Hopefully that does the trick for you. Good luck cuz Thursday's right around the corner.

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