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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:06:13 AM

Title: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:06:13 AM
I renewed my subscription to it. Then I recieved my first copy in 08 and it totally sucks balls! There is no jet boat/v-drive section anymore? Some one should start a low freeboard magazine. Because alot of us out here still like boating but with out a six figure boat to pay off!
And whats up with there website. I caught rumor that they kicked alot of people off. Anybody know the scoop? Thanks.

Late,
Nate
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on January 18, 2008, 09:12:42 AM
Where the hell you been, Prison ?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:19:20 AM
Where the hell you been, Prison ?

Pretty much....Been working on a island in the pacific building a runway for the Military.
So... can anybody get me caught up to speed? Or point me to a thread to read?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: SLCKREG on January 18, 2008, 09:28:12 AM
I agree this months was pretty piss poor, along with all the ususal advertising overkill, they decide to throw in a buyers guide. ads,ads,ads,ads......... :P
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Ema Non-Performance Marine - BANNED on January 18, 2008, 09:33:37 AM
Pretty much....Been working on a island in the pacific building a runway for the Military.
So... can anybody get me caught up to speed? Or point me to a thread to read?

Way cool Thank you !

Their is a good thread on Banderlog, easy to find. as well as PerformanceBoats.com
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:34:32 AM
Where the hell you been, Prison ?

You know what? I remember YOU disappearing for a long time!!! Ummm....Prison?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on January 18, 2008, 09:35:56 AM
heres the short story:

hb got bought out.
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: GlassCutter on January 18, 2008, 09:37:22 AM
When the capt. kicks off the crew is it still a mutiny?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: hotrod56cars on January 18, 2008, 09:41:13 AM
... Some one should start a low freeboard magazine...
Thanks.

Late,
Nate

I don't think there's a big enough demand for it. There are tons of different hot rod mags out there for a reason - $$$. Boating, especially gas guzzling jet boats, not so many as compared to hot rods, gardens, wanabe chefs, etc...
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:42:44 AM
heres the short story:

hb got bought out.


Bummer! Well it was a good run....But I will not renew to that mag. again!
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:44:07 AM
I don't think there's a big enough demand for it. There are tons of different hot rod mags out there for a reason - $$$. Boating, especially gas guzzling jet boats, not so many as compared to hot rods, gardens, wanabe chefs, etc...

Sorry I know this is off subject but that is a VERY nice avatar!!
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: n8dawg on January 18, 2008, 09:44:53 AM
Thanks for clueing me in guys!
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: rebel on January 19, 2008, 04:16:51 PM
I recieved my first copy in 08 and it totally sucks balls!

Late,
Nate

Hotboat sucks!?...     next question  ;D  >:D

-Rebel
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Nordie on January 19, 2008, 05:37:24 PM
Hotboat sucks!?...     next question  ;D  >:D

-Rebel

when is B rad going to come out with a magazine?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: MORBEER on January 19, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
Yeah brad,?    The next larry flynt?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Ralph Brunt on January 19, 2008, 06:32:48 PM
when is B rad going to come out with a magazine?
actually we have talked about it ??? and the one major road block we cant get around is the advertisers that would basically be paying for it. now think how many are there? because subscriptions at what 5.00 each then you have to pay postage printing and so on....... so the next best thing is a calander (hmmm) only need 12 pics then, not 12 issues. well just sharing a little of what we have talked about.
ralph
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: flytime on January 19, 2008, 08:39:41 PM
You would think that within the gallery there should be plenty of pictures to choose from to make the calander. I would supose that you just have to get permission to priint from the picture owner. Butt....if the picture has already been posted does that make it property of SCJB? Hmmm ???
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: jet boat performance on January 19, 2008, 08:50:13 PM
Nate I tried to hold out and be positive but its not working ,then I got my new issue a couple days ago ... need I say more Tom
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Nordie on January 19, 2008, 10:18:21 PM
Think of how awesome it would be though...there is still a huge supply and demand for this stuff...look at all of us gurus you got all of these muscle car mags from the muscle era...same as jet boats we are keeping something alive here...i know i have spents hours on the computer looking for this stuff and wanting to know more....hence why i am here...i look at alot of the tech articles to learn i never have anything to say in them because i dont know much, but i am all for it i think we can put some heads together here and start something...but it is brads call, plus it would be sweet to let old rigger have a section...
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: MORBEER on January 20, 2008, 11:29:13 AM
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT!!!
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on January 20, 2008, 01:34:38 PM
As bitchin' as it would be, and it would be bitchin', unless Brad has some really deep pockets to back him, or he can live with ZERO income for a couple of years, it's a financial fucking nightmare, you can ask my good friend Scott who started Car Kulture DeLuxe, and now does Traditional Rod & Kustom Illustrated. The distributors tell you how many mags they'll buy, and what they'll pay, oh yeah, it's all on consignment and you DON'T get you unsold copies back either. Mags make money from big money advertisers, if you don't have big money buyin' ad space, you're loosing money, it's as simple as that. I'd be more than happy to help Brad or anyone else should the opportunity come up.

Skip
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on January 20, 2008, 01:45:06 PM
good points there skip......and now ask yourself this:

How many big money companies are there in our industry that will front enough money to support this mag?
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on January 20, 2008, 01:47:18 PM
good points there skip......and now ask yourself this:

How many big money companies are there in our industry that will front enough money to support this mag?

Let's see other than all the boat makers that don't make our boats anymore, um, I'd have to say none. Rex, CP, JBP, they might all buy ads, but their ads would not cover the costs, it's a damn shame really, Brad check your PMs.
Skip
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on January 20, 2008, 01:51:08 PM
exactly my point.  ;)
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: just squirtin on January 20, 2008, 04:03:03 PM
you have all the pump makers=still have the speed equip companies=maybe even the motor makers==ford/chevy/mopar=these companies probably dont have a clue to how many jet boats or blade runners are out there=you can never know what would happen or could happen=dream baby
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Nordie on January 20, 2008, 04:24:20 PM
i'll shut up now but it still would be cool...
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: Luckie Stiff on January 20, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
you have all the pump makers=still have the speed equip companies=maybe even the motor makers==ford/chevy/mopar=these companies probably dont have a clue to how many jet boats or blade runners are out there=you can never know what would happen or could happen=dream baby

Ok, here's a quick list of possible advertisers I came up with off the top of my head; and I don't think 100% of these guys would spend money on a startup magazine

RETAIL/PARTS
Berkely
Dominator
American Turbine
Place Diverter
Glenwood Marine (Harman Marine Stuff)
Jet Boat Performance
Rex Marine
CP Performance
HTP
Beede Gauges
MSD
Edelbrock
Holley/Mr Gasket
Dooley
Eddie Marine


Local/Regional Speed/Boat shops

GS Marine
Jet Boat Performance
Cyclone Speed & Marine
Sweet Performance
Hi Tech Performance
Performance Jet
MPD
I'm sure there's more, that's just what I came up with in a quick minute

Boat/Trailer Manufacturers

Road Runner Trailers
Competitve Trailers
Is Anyone making hulls/boats under 21' anymore?


Places to go boating/camping

Most of the places to do our thing have plenty of customers and would be hard pressed to spend any monies on ads

Now, if you figure that each of those companies I listed would have to take out full page ads @ $1000 per page (cheap!)
you would almost cover your printing costs, now you need to mail them out to your subscribers, give a couple boxes of copies to your advertisers to sell @ thier shops, pay someone to do layup work, cover costs to go to events and cover shit, etc, etc, etc.
You're still going into the hole with every issue. There's just no money to be made in that business, not in an ever growing electronic world.

Skip
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: rebel on January 21, 2008, 01:10:43 AM
Maybe we should just stick with this Web Site and grow it first!

Who knows, maybe Brad will get some Sponsors to put adds in here
and we can all get them stickers I've herd so much about...   ;D

-Rebel

Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: MORBEER on January 25, 2008, 09:48:43 PM
Dont forget Harman Marine in Anaheim, Todd is a good dude!
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: GlassCutter on January 25, 2008, 09:56:04 PM
The stickers don't come until the Easter Bunny brings em. At least thats what I've heard. Probably explains why I don't have mine yet.
Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: propless on January 25, 2008, 10:17:07 PM
Who knows, maybe Brad will get some Sponsors to put adds in here
and we can all get them stickers I've herd so much about...   ;D
The stickers don't come until the Easter Bunny brings em. At least thats what I've heard. Probably explains why I don't have mine yet.

 I got a sticker.   :P  ;D

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Title: Re: Whats uh...the deal with HotBoat?
Post by: flytime on January 25, 2008, 10:21:10 PM
I got mine. No picture though. :(
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