SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => The No Wake Zone => WarZone => Topic started by: GlassCutter on January 17, 2011, 09:46:45 PM
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I know some of you here probably shit bowtie blue, and a bunch of y'all probly own GMs from 1993 - 2003 due just to bad luck or some such thing. I'm not sure what GM did to mess up a generally trouble free system, but they did it somehow.
A public service announcement from me to y'all . . . wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/general-motors-trucks-investigated-for-rusting-brake-lines/ (http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/general-motors-trucks-investigated-for-rusting-brake-lines/)
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And http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usautocompanygmrecall (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/usautocompanygmrecall)
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Nice to know that Dodges use Dana axles. Very comforting . . .
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Replaced the cross pin and the rusty brake lines on my Government Motors powered jet boat ;D
Anyways---
Does this include older models (05)? Didnt find any info other than 2011's.
Last week, 1/10/2011 Ford sent me a recall on my 1996 F350 PSD, Cruise control switches, its lasted 450,000 mi so far :screwy:
Daniel
Mash on it :thumbup:
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if that switch fails it just trys to burn your truck and your house down if its inside ;D
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Ok don't get me started. I am a Ford and Chevy guy. Let's see. Ford probs: F-150 and now Exploders with cruise control swtich that burned houses down and killed people. My buddy who is a fire inspector finally got Ford and NHTSA to admit the Explorers had to be recalled for the cruise control switch (fires) too (hmm same part numbers). Lets see Ford 6.0 Diesel Engine probs and lawsuit between Ford and IH/Navistar as well as a class action suit for the ambulance companies where people died because the 6.0's broke down trying to get to the hospital.
Ok I had an older Chevy 1500 that I beat the shit out of plowing and such. I never had to replace the rotors, ball joints, sway bar bushings, exhaust manifolds and now my 02 F-250 SD just blew a spark plug out this past weekend and took a COP with it. Ford will not recall this because it is not "safety". I now have to get the time sert tool, cop and pissed off plow customers cause it broke while plowing. The money I will spend doing this would equal to almost the same cost as putting a set of heads on my older Chevy. I have replaced more rotted fuel and brake and transmission lines on a Ford than a Chevy.
So far since Sept. I have replaced ball joints, axle joints, rotors, swaybar bushing, exhaust manifolds and studs (with upgraded stainless studs from Ford) and now the spark plug issue. I have spent more money than what it cost me to buy my older Chevy truck and I do all the work myself. Ok rant over.
T.J.
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Yeah them ford plug issues are a real pain in the ass...the answer dont replace the plugs...granted i have had maintenence stuff happen to my gm and of course the failing injector issue "by a first series engine" i will always buy a gm over the rest....the older chevy pickups like 92-98 man them trucks had the least issues ever...my dad had a 94 and 98 and neither truck ever had anything go wrong...my step dad had a 94 and only lost a transfer case...due to never servicing it and never using the 4wd...
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Ya I had a plug pop on me on my 99 expedition also, what a pain in the ass :banghead: Mine was due to a shop that changed the plugs, and didnt put one in right. I had the heads pulled, bought a used head, and did a slight valve job at Dave's shop. What I have found out is that on the 4.6, 5.4 V8 (mine) and the 6.8 V10 engines from 1999 to 2004, whether in trucks or the Mustang or Crown Vic, used a spark plug with only 4 threads securing it to the aluminum head. Even plugs that have never been changed or removed, since it was built at the factory, have blown. When they blow, can damage things, like the coil, (mine :banghead:) fuel rail, or maybe even the hood. Helicoils, fail early, and if they dont, the stainless insert doesnt conduct as much heat to the head from the plug as bare aluminum, making the plug run hot. From what I read, Jasper engines, automatically put in ALL new inserts in everything they are building. The new inserts have 8 threads, instead of the 4. Also read that repair kits are available at CalVan, time-sert, and lock-N-Stitch. JMO
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TJ and Nordie, love ya both but you are both still drinking the Bowtie Kool-aid from 30 years ago. GM is no longer interested in building a truck that way. They still ride better than the others, and they still get marginally better mileage. But they just aren't all that reliable. Combine that with customer service that is the very worst, and you have the GM experience 2011. Sorry. We can still drink together right?
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My 2000 was at 160k and the only issues were egr 02 sensor and thermostat...i call that pretty reliable...to me even if this was the motto 20 years ago you maintain it and it will live....no offense gc but that dodge isnt gonna be the meal ticket...might wanna look at a toyota as they top the charts in dependability...i dont see myself buying a toyota though...im not trying to stir the pot or anything this issue is like yelling at a block wall...and everyone is entilted to their opinion...its even worse then politics i would like to think
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Im not drinking nobodies coolaid, they are all junk in one way or another and seem to get worse over time and are not listening to their customers.
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ha ha we just started pulling a 6.0 powerstroke today fun job never did one got the cab off today leavethe fun stuff for tommaro night after work
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Just cuz I can never get enough of this shit . . . >:D
ALLEN JOHNSON'S PROSTOCK MOPAR BREAKS 6.5 SEC. BARRIER O0
Read all about it >>> www.dragzine.com/news/allen-johnson-breaks-pro-stock-6-50-second-barrier/ (http://www.dragzine.com/news/allen-johnson-breaks-pro-stock-6-50-second-barrier/)
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More poop stirring!
Just cuz I can never get enough of this shit . . . >:D
ALLEN JOHNSON'S PROSTOCK MOPAR BREAKS 6.5 SEC. BARRIER
yea but now the national E.T record is held buy Rodger Brogdon's '09 Pontiac (their out of business and still setting records) LOL! >:D and the M.P.H record by a 2010 Chevy cobalt And its driven by a girl to top it off!
This smack talkin' is fun!
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Well, between my wifey and I, I buy a new truck or SUV every year since 1995 and I love my GM products (except the S10 Blazer but we all have bad days) I have had no major issues and I put a ton of mileage on my truck the wife drives 5 miles to work everyday. Her Tahoe has not seen the inside of the dealership and my last truck never had a warranty visit in 75 000 miles. All that being said I spun a crank bearing in my 2010 5.3 a couple of months ago alot of raised eyebrows at the dealer but not unheard of. I think with the economy the way it is we are in for some crap from all the manufacturers.
The folks that brag about Toyota quality need to look at the cost of ownership the Imports still require the owner to do alot of "preventative maintenance" at the owners expense. If we all maintained our vehiicles to that standard we would have less problems.
Just my opinion.
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After spending about $1200 replacing the "FICM" on my 6.0 F350 about 2 months ago.....( Still dunno what it DOES, all I wanted to know was did it FICIT!)
Trucks running fine, everythings cool, Maintenance on anything. I do NOT care who made it, you're going to have these things. Now. The Dodge Cummins? Probably the best engine and management system out there. Seen what Nordie went through with his Duramax, and what I've dealt with with my Ford. They're all prone to failure, true enough, planned or not, but honestly, just how many threads do you see with a Cummin's problem....?
Just sayin............ ;D
Ray
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yea but now the national E.T record is held buy Rodger Brogdon's '09 Pontiac (their out of business and still setting records) LOL! >:D and the M.P.H record by a 2010 Chevy cobalt And its driven by a girl to top it off!
This smack talkin' is fun!
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A) Pontiac are not Chevys. Since the 60's they have run harder and longer than Chevys, GM just doesn't wanna promote that much.
B) THAT Prostocker has very little in common with OEM engine. Mother Mopar supports the racers with factory parts like no other. Hell for a long time I think Pontiac was about the only mfgr. that DIDN'T use a Hemi design in their racing engines.
C) "Like a Rock"? Why would that inspire anyone to buy a car?
D) I like girls. Girls who race I like even more. No shame in being beaten by a girl at the drags. Now if she beat me on a dirt bike, THAT I'd have a problem with.
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Who in the world wants a Dodge anyway?
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People who hate fixing stuff all the time. Nobody ever started a thread here about how any of their Dodge Rams had let them down. But hey if you want to change injectors at 60K or trannys at 80K, GM will certainly put a smile on your face.
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Ehh but that's cuz not many people here own Rams.
Too much reliability my family has had with Chevy in years past and recent years to be able to buy any statistical negatives on them.
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Ol' gc is back at it again with his paper thin dodge antiks I see! All this started about a vehicle being over 10 years old having rust issues, guess what? Maintain your vehicle whether be shop or yourself. I still cant understand why you take cobstant jabs on GM trucks. your little gas guzzling hemi and paper thin sheetmetal, and shotty interior "actually a compliment" does nothing for most people, but keep thinking that joke of a truck is the best thing to touch the pavement
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No "all this" started because Pat dug up an year old thread that will never have an ending. Just like Nordie and Pat, my statements are based on what my experience has been. My experience has been that I have owned over 30 Mopars starting with a sublime 70 440-6 GTX as my very first car. My daily drivers after that were 3 different 69 Roadrunners, 2 Cudas (1 440-6 and 1 318) and finally a 69 sixpac SuperBee with the lift off fiberglass hood. The fastest one ran 12.09 @ 112 yet still got me to and back every day. Lost one ignition module, one fusable link, and one u-joint (power shifting with soft bolts in the straps DOH) in all that time. Nothing else.
By the end of my stint with my current Ram I will have driven nearly 1 Million miles between 3 trucks. Thus far with these three trucks I have lost a fuel pump, a power window, a seat frame broke, and a water pump. No it ain't a diesel and so I won't outpull anybody up a hill and yes it will need a rebuild as it approaches 300,000 miles, but I have never had the tranny, engine, or rust problems that people seem to associate with Dodges and neither has anyone I know. The wife drives a PT Cruz that we just did the timing belt on. He told us to expect another 100,000 miles from that car. It has had a CD changer go bad in its 97,000 miles.
You GM guys I'm sure will have differing personal opinions and experiences but Mother Mopar has treated me very well. And since they are no longer an American owned companiy, I worry that they will be able to maintain this high level of quality. Another thing I know is the one GM product I did own, people in all departments and levels of ownership at 5 different dealerships treated me in a way that convinced me that they no longer wanted me as a customer. I loved my supercharged Pontiac Gran Prix more than any car I have ever ridden in. It was the perfect car for me. But the way I was screwed and tatoo'd by dealer owners and service managers forced me to go to court to get them to make simple things right UNDER WARRANTY ! And the way the union just f'kd over GM shareholders with who got paid with tax payer bailout money is reason enough for me to disassociate myself from anything GM. Peace 8)
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I was just sayin.
I'll buy ya a beer in Parker and we can kick tires.
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Well you are the only one who starts these threads about GM, then proceed to brag about your dodge! so how do you think that come across gc? To me it seems as if your trying to stir the pot...I think even today you had your hatred on GM, but maybe you should quit stirring the pot, and stir up some resin and fix your floor on your boat, besides complaining about the seat falling over...has it ever occured to you that your boat is completely rotted out, and probably unsafe? Atleast you have the greatest truck ever made to get you around town
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Am I to assume that since you're all about reliability....that was your reason to get into jetboating?....because based on your recent threads, it would appear to the layman as if you were running a mopar in that boat....but we know better....mopar doesn't build engines that will live in a boat.
Seeing as how it's cold outside, I don't come on the forums much...but something called to me....a thread that mentioned stirring the pot, more than once. I couldn't resist. I'll also point out that the only plant worth a shit in a dodge is built by......lol.....not dodge, but cummins. Hey, at least it'll be able to drive itself to the scrapyard when the rest of the truck goes to shit.
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The Daytona 500 is on and a horrible accident just happened...Juan Pablo just nailed a truck n trailer hauling ass, the truck was a GM, driver of truck is fine, probably wouldn't be the case if it was a paper thin dodge...the only reason I know people that buy dodge is for the exact reason pat said Cummins diesel, but most of them have switched to GM since Cummins has since turned into garbage
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No "all this" started because Pat dug up an year old thread
I did wha? I check the "recent threads" on my phone and if for some reason I feel it necessary, I'll respond.
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I did wha? I check the "recent threads" on my phone and if for some reason I feel it necessary, I'll respond.
My name is also Pat. I'm the guy that mulled the intake from your house to Vegas.
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My name is also Pat. I'm the guy that muled the intake from your house to Vegas.
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Ah...fair enough....but you didn't do it in dodge, did you.
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Negative.
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Negative.
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If you did it in a dodge it would have shifted perfectly ran a thousand miles per hour and got optimum fuel mileage! Like I said gc your the first one to hate on all,the other corps, not anyone else!
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Not sure why all the hate is coming out tonight, maybe it is the rain. I tried to mention a couple of times that my opinions were based on my 30+ years of personal experience. I admitted that you GM and Ford guys approach the question the same way. Don't know why y'all are so worked up over how I spend my automotive dollars. I guess summertime just can't get here fast enough for all us boaters.
Hey Nordie -- how do you like my new siggy? Thanks, I owe ya one :beer:
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Cant see your siggy I own a smart phone...the hate, well you brought it on yourself!
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Chevy- like a rock.....it wont move unless you push it...or you can put stuff on it. Notice the f250 next to it waiting on injectors and there's a dodge in my drive way that had a piston decide it wanted some fresh air and windowed the block.
They all suck, just a matter of preference.
Fat fingered from the phone- Corey
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I'll drink to just about anything.
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Funny, I just got smacked in my Tacoma, and I don't like bent shit, so I sold it. Bought a 96 4runner with 240K on it, and a '97 C1500 with 110K on it. The wife's 4Runner only has 211K on it. Both toyotas drive and run like new. We've had the wife's for 70K miles and I've done oil changes and a brake job. I'll do a timing belt soon. The Chevy with half the miles is a piece of shit....steering wheel feels like its held on with rubber bands, and the rest of the truck ain't much better. A tundra with 200K + is $7000. I got the Chevy for $3000, same as I paid for each 4runner. I dunno why the domestics can't get their shit together, but Toyota sure has it....or at least had it. Only reason I bought another Chevy was because a 4 cylinder Toyota truck with twice the mileage was twice as much....I needed weight capacity. You get what you pay for. Oh...tonight when it was raining, the Chevy wipers quit working....pulled it in the drive to check it out after it stopped raining...now they work. Kinda like air cooled VW heater's I guess...they only work when it's warm out.
I guess I'm a bit biased cuz I worked for Toyota ... and GM. People must be used to spending a bunch of money to maintain their cars. To all you Toyota haters....some day, get one, and see what it's like spending less than 2K over 20 years keeping your shit running.
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chevy like a rock sinking to the bottom of the lake
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sorry guys "chevy" is still the shit!!!and i have owned a few toyotas there ok . and i also own a ford but my chevy above all else!!!! ;D
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chevy like a rock sinking to the bottom of the lake
And don't forget . . . Chevy runs deep >:D
Chevy . . . The Heartbreak of America ? Thank you UAW and Mr. Obama
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Nobody wants to line up with the 2011. Or the 2002 for that matter. Stock Chevys scoot.
Though that Hemi in a half ton is formidable, I will admit.
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I love how the every time a GM owner mentions a problem, a bunch of people will all have the fix because it is a "known problem". But I gotta admit y'all are entertaining. :screwy:
http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?87698-My-Dura-max-has-the-drip (http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?87698-My-Dura-max-has-the-drip)
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Chevy, Ford and Dodge all use Borg Warner t-cases
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Chevy, Ford and Dodge all use Borg Warner t-cases
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Is a 205 a Borg Warner?
I've got a few, and they seem to never wear out.
Daniel
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Chevy, Ford and Dodge all use Borg Warner t-cases
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Funny how this seems to only happen on the GM's though huh? It seems like it was happening to trucks 8-10 years old. I guess Dodge just pays more attention to the details huh?
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Is a 205 a Borg Warner?
I've got a few, and they seem to never wear out.
Daniel
Usually there's a BW in front of the model number. I had a BW 4407 in my PSD, though it was different looking and a lot bigger than that of my friends duramax. Same bolt pattern and gaskets.. Look interchangeable but mine was manual and his electric. Sounds like Borg Warner has issues with one off their products.
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205 is a New Process (NP205)
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205 is a New Process (NP205)
Thats the one--not low enough low range but bomb-proof.
Daniel