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Discussion => The No Wake Zone => WarZone => Topic started by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 06:00:44 PM

Title: now the work begins
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 06:00:44 PM
just got this dropped off today ;D
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10041/air_comp_031.JPG)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10041/air_comp_032.JPG)
80 gallons 5 hp 14.9 cfm@90psi

just got to figure out how to wire it without killing myself or burning my house down :-\
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: 2savage4you on April 02, 2010, 06:07:52 PM
Nice, what is it .

A time capsule ;D
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2010, 06:16:34 PM
Nice Ralph  IR is a good compressor, will last you a long time.  Is it 110 or 220 ??? 
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 06:28:40 PM
220 single phase
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: GT Jets on April 02, 2010, 06:34:55 PM
220 single phase

You got a dryer outlet in your garage?    ;)

GT
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 06:41:24 PM
You got a dryer outlet in your garage?    ;)

GT
nope
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: honda1 on April 02, 2010, 06:45:24 PM
Hey Ralph what size popoff valve is on that thing  ???
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: GT Jets on April 02, 2010, 06:47:37 PM
Hey Ralph what size popoff valve is on that thing  ???

Only needs to be sized for the flow capacity of the compressor.....Why?

GT
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2010, 06:49:13 PM
You got a dryer outlet in your garage?    ;)

GT
That was gonna be my next question
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: IRRebel on April 02, 2010, 06:51:54 PM
Pretty simple wiring it, Ralph. If you don't mind not running the compressor when Mrs. Ralph is washing your grubby clothes, you can tie into that circuit and put a dupe recepticle in the garage.

I wouldn't do that, I'd run a dedicated circuit from a new breaker in the panel. Not that difficult, just remember the black and red wires REALLY hurt if you do it hot.

How many pins are on your dryer plug? 3 or 4?

Ray
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: honda1 on April 02, 2010, 06:59:22 PM
you can kick the pressure up close to the size of the popoff we did it on the same type we had at work was at 150psi bumped to almost 170psi my impact is 1100 ft pnd  iwanted all of it to bust crank bolts lose
Only needs to be sized for the flow capacity of the compressor.....Why?

GT
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
Ray he doesnt have a dryer receptacle in his garage.  Ralph where is your breaker box ??? And what do you have, electrical wise going to your garage ???
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: enginedoctor on April 02, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
Nice Ralph :thumbup:  Will make things way better for you and Pop's.
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 07:06:52 PM
be rite back, i am fighjting the ground issue, got the power covered pics coming
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 07:10:58 PM
this is the sub panel in the garage
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10041/breaker_001.JPG)
this is were i am getting the power from
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10041/breaker_002.JPG)
now you see where all the commons go on the bus bar, that bus bar goes back to the main and goes to the ground, but, i was told i cant pull my ground from there because it is used as a common and not a dedicated ground ???
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: IRRebel on April 02, 2010, 07:22:47 PM
Thats why I asked whether your dryer uses a 3 pin or 4 pin plug!

Also I was referring to tapping into the dryer line, Mark!  then dropping a second recepticle on the same circuit !;D

Anyways, I'm more concerned NOW about that wire nut at the bottom of your sub-panel? Wheres THAT white wire going out the bottom of the panel?

Ray

Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: 76NORDIC on April 02, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
Eh the rusted deal on the right side, kinda covered by wires, cant really tell by the pics ???
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: farmergord on April 02, 2010, 07:39:27 PM
Ralph can you run a number 4 ground wire from that panel outside and put in a new ground rod that would be best then just marrette the ground from the compressor to that . Nice compressor a new version of what I have had for 17 years still going strong
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: Ralph Brunt on April 02, 2010, 07:48:56 PM
ray, not sure witch wire you are talking about

the 3 wires on the bottom red,white,black are from the main and feed this box.

now, why the hell cant i use that buss bar as my ground ??? the white wire goes directly to the service ground in the main.

i am so used to doing auto electrical that none of this makes sence to me
Title: Re: now the work begins
Post by: GT Jets on April 03, 2010, 09:50:45 AM
ray, not sure witch wire you are talking about

the 3 wires on the bottom red,white,black are from the main and feed this box.

now, why the hell cant i use that buss bar as my ground ??? the white wire goes directly to the service ground in the main.

i am so used to doing auto electrical that none of this makes sence to me

Ralph,

I am just throwing this at you because it is the right way to do it.

Grounding is very important for several reasons, the most obvious is to eliminate any shock hazards, my uncle was bit by a three phase welder plug at a body shop 15 years ago and spent 6 days in the hospital on a heart monitor ans was treated for some burns on the hand.........

The sub panel in your garage does not seem right, maybe OK several years ago, but not to today's standards. I would pull a separate ground to outside and run a ground spike, if you already have a ground spike close to the garage (normally bonding the water pipes in the house) then you could bond to that.

Do not bond to the neutral, it used to be done, but is not right, there should have been a separate ground pulled for the sub panel....

Also, just a pet peeve, if the breaker is bigger than the maximum fuse size of the compressor, use a service disconnect with the appropriate size dual element fuses (may say HACR on them).....Call if I can help.

GT
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