Ok I'm hooked after riding I'm jimpen's gullwing formerly lupos I can't imagine having anything else. I snoozed on Jim Brock's winger and have been looking and am finding nothing. I'm looking for something less motor and pump, or with pump depending on price, and around a 450+ hull. I'm from so cal and will travel a lil for the right boat. If anyone knows someone that might sell please let me know. And have a decent budget considering what lupo let his go for. Dennis call/text 9096643517
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