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Title: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 02, 2009, 05:59:32 PM
Before Friday...anyone in OC?

thx

p-jet
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Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: JWBOYER21 on June 02, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
need to borrow one?
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 02, 2009, 08:55:38 PM
ok stupid question...I have an air cleaner, but I thought it was required to have a "flame arrestor" in an enclosed engine compartment...in fact don't they inspect for that before you launch at many lakes??
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on June 03, 2009, 09:21:15 AM
It is, and that looks like a flame arrestor to me! Not all of them are the soup can sized, over restrictive things that resemble a collander. They actually make some USCG approved decent ones these days, that one looks like a K&N.

Ray

And JW, do you DRIVE that boat? Damn dude, dirty up that engine compartment a bit will ya? You're making the rest of us look bad! >:D
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: JWBOYER21 on June 03, 2009, 09:52:30 PM
haha ray don't let the carpet fool you! that motor is disgusting! i'm need to get some motor cleaner and spray it down!


if it is a flame arrestor does that mean it will be stamped by USCG?

i'm going to go pull it ff tomorrow and take a look
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: GT Jets on June 03, 2009, 09:55:27 PM
haha ray don't let the carpet fool you! that motor is disgusting! i'm need to get some motor cleaner and spray it down!


if it is a flame arrestor does that mean it will be stamped by USCG?

i'm going to go pull it ff tomorrow and take a look
That filter you have is a Fram automotive deal, K&N makes the USCG deal, it will have an SAE # assigned to it, they are typically huge too, they don't flow for crap.... ::)

GT
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: JWBOYER21 on June 03, 2009, 10:00:42 PM
gotcha. thanks GT. i remember it being an edlebrock filter but being really thin like a filter only.

Frank, i still may have an actual flame arrestor but i willl look tomorrow.

where are you going that you will need one? (get inspected)
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: nathan72 on June 03, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
i have one you can have i can send it out tomarrow but i dont think it will make it to you be friday pm me and ill send it
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 04, 2009, 04:03:52 AM
We're going to Perris for a test and tune.  Call me and let me know, I can meet you later... 
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: JWBOYER21 on June 05, 2009, 07:18:24 PM
frank you still need it??
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: OC2Vegas on June 05, 2009, 07:21:52 PM
I know where there is one @ Saguro Lake!  ::) Do you have any diving gear?
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on June 05, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
He better have one! I put the two I had on the Moo after this happened yesterday! ( Fuk restriction! I like my boats!), Be forewarned!

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My Blue My Wad actually had all marine equipment on it save the carb (Which was going to be replaced with a new intake and marine 850) Don't think that was the issue, RedNeck wiring (Jeremy can attest, and I kinda ignored as 'I'll get to it this winter'), and a leaking or 2 leaking fuel tanks probably caused this.

Ray

Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: JWBOYER21 on June 05, 2009, 07:40:19 PM
let me know....
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 05, 2009, 09:45:43 PM
RedNeck wiring (Jeremy can attest, and I kinda ignored as 'I'll get to it this winter'), and a leaking or 2 leaking fuel tanks probably caused this.

Ya think?? Pretty fukin stupid!!!

We have a responsibility to the people who ride in our boats to take care of this kinda shit BEFORE they get in it!!!
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on June 06, 2009, 01:32:55 AM
I get your point, PJ,  and it's a good one, but there was no seeing this.

The wiring I was referring to was in the front of the boat, not where this seemed to have taken place as I understand it. As I said before, nothing dangerous was readily apparent, especially since the fuel leaks seemed to have been repaired, as well as the hilljack wiring. No less than 5 people on these boards worked on this boat, and not one of us saw this potential, and I am just speculating what happened. Could have been a million and one things, exploding battery, for instance. No way to ever find out for sure. And the rapidly depleting fuel was a brand new development!

But, lessons learned. Just as you are seeking a flame arrestor, and have apparently been running without one, works in progress can be deadly.

Ray
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: GT Jets on June 06, 2009, 12:02:20 PM
Ya think?? Pretty fukin stupid!!!

We have a responsibility to the people who ride in our boats to take care of this kinda shit BEFORE they get in it!!!

That might be a bit harsh...

FWIW, if your powerplant is not up to USCG spec, I would run the boat without the cover, one for the added ventilation and two because you can see when shit happens before it happens...

This situation could have happened to virtually anybody, I have seen it more times than seems possible. This could have been any number of things, we can only speculate now but probably a fuel fill connection or a bad fuel pump diaphram, any number of things could have caused this issue...

I watched a boat at Lake Shasta start the engine at the dock, the dude did everything right, bilge blower, opened the engine cover to have a look see, then started the engine and BAM, blew the engine cover completely off the boat and had a big fire ball roll out. It snuffed out almost immideately and there were only a couple of small little fires we put out with water from the lake with our hands...Turns out it was a bad battery. We took the battery out of his pickup and cleaned up from the explosion (acid everywhere) and put the battery in the boat and off they went, ran it all week long (they were camped right next to us)..

Like I said, you just never know...... :-\

GT
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: povertyjet on June 06, 2009, 05:18:15 PM
Ray, I am sorry if my comments were harsh, but I stand by the sentiments.  I was reacting to the conditions of the boat as you stated them.  Also upon further contemplation, and from what I know of you and the others who worked on the boat, I truly believe that you would never intentionally place anyone or yourself in danger...ever.

p-jet
Title: Re: need a flame arrestor!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on June 06, 2009, 11:40:32 PM
Thanks Frank, and I know that. I was just clarifying the situation and condition of the boat. Nordie and I beleive that possibly the backup battery that would only take a partial charge and was disconnected from the system may be to blame too. If a battery burst and there were fuel fumes in there, well instant small hydrogen bomb possibly. Compound that theory with maybe the blower failed too, more problems.

Who knows, but as Glenn said, can happen to anybody. Blower coulda quit working, the list can be a mile long. Unless I can recover it reasonably (Or am forced to), we'll never be able to know anything except what I was told by the people on the boat. As I said in the other thread, I'll never take anyones word on Turnkey again, it's gonna come apart like the Moo did and go together systematically (Which only took a month, really).

One of my peers at work is a very experienced diver and has recovered boats there before. I need to call the marina to see if it'd be OK to dive the site and see if it's even possible. There may be hope to at least save an engine and pump.

Ray
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