definately tryed it with the motor running, and a little better, but did not cure it! i fiugred my ground was not enough, but it has to be...the stereo never shuts off, just the sub! the light on the amp goes dim, and then bright...i really want to think my power wire sucks ass, and isne enough...i am running the amp under the bow because there just isnt anywhere else to put it! i did the battery charger thing as well, and no luck! in fact the boat is still on the charger i should probably take it off of it! dont worry it is on a low charge not on start...i did try this same scenerio on start setting on the charger, and the same result...i really think that i have to weak of a power wire, but could possibly be the ground, but the ground is 8 guage going directly to the batt...who knows! it's got me pulling my hair out, but everyday i am making progress! the rest of the stereo sounds really good BTW! i can hear the stereo at idle loud and clear...im sure that while cruising i am not going to hear it, but that is ok!