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JordanDangerfield

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1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« on: May 14, 2014, 05:11:03 PM »
Here's my new rig.  It's a '78 Eliminator Bubbledeck.  Based on what I've read I believe it is an SS model.  It has full stringers, no subfloor, and it came from the Eliminator with headers.  It has a Ford 460 with a Berk JC-A.  It appears mostly unmolested too!!

I drove up to Santa Rosa to pick this thing up the day after getting home from my last tour.  Based on the pics I got from the owner and the description he gave I felt confident making the long haul.  Luckily it was MOST of what the PO described to me.  SoCalPSD was a huge help while checking it over before I purchased it. 

As soon as I got it home I removed the interior and gave it a thorough inspection and cleaning.  I must have scored boat karma with the amount of issues Titty twister had because there haven't been any surprises with this boat...YET.  While I checked the boat over before purchasing it there was water in the oil which is a huge red flag and it almost turned me away.  The spring in the bassett T was broken so it fed WAY too much water to the headers.  I ASSume the motor sucked water in that way.  I ran a compression test at the guys house and all cylinders were an even 120.  I heard the motor should be somewhere around 150, but that 120 isn't bad especially if it has been sitting a while. However, I could be wrong..  I took a chance and decided to buy the boat.  The milky oil allowed me to haggle and I got out of there with a good deal.  When I got the boat home I ran a leak down test and it didn't drop a single psi!  That was a huge relief, so the next step was to change the oil.  I went with the cheap stuff since this was basically a flush, but after running it on the trailer the oil was clear.  I drained the cheap stuff and used Valvoline VR1 20w-50.  If anyone thinks I should run anything different I'm all ears!!  I replaced the cap, rotor, wires, plugs, and some fuel lines that I'm almost sure are original.  I replaced the steering, throttle cable, shifter cable, transom seals, and bought a set of Hardin Marine gauges. 

Onto the pics!!  First pic is from the ad, the next couple are the day after I got it home, the last two are from the first outing to Elsinore. 

« Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 05:58:49 PM by JordanDangerfield »
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MorePower

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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 05:32:57 PM »
That was a smokin deal. I saw it for sale a bit ago also... Congrats man! Now get that thing to the river!


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JordanDangerfield

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1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 05:38:16 PM »
Well...I did a poor job of posting the pics, but at least they are there.  The random frog hitched a ride all the way back down to SoCal.  I have several questions.

First, can anyone confirm what model of Eliminator I have?  Like I said, I think its an SS Bubbledeck.  Also, it has a delta pad bottom. 

It came with an MSD 8350 distributor with a vacuum advance, but it's plugged up.  Can anyone shed any light on that?  Should I hook up the vacuum advance line to the carb?


The impeller has some dings in it.  It didn't seem to affect performance, but what do you guys think?  Before firing the motor on the trailer I replaced the gear oil in the bowl and greased the trust bearing.  The oil held in the bowl, but after running the boat I noticed it slowly leaking out through the nozzle.  I pulled the hand hole cover and made sure the impeller didn't have any play.  Based on my reading the tailshaft bearing is failing since the gear oil is leaking, but since the impeller shaft doesn't have play is it safe to run?  Or, does the bushing need to be replaced before I hit the water again?

Thanks!!
« Last Edit: May 14, 2014, 05:58:30 PM by JordanDangerfield »
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75eliminator

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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 06:22:34 PM »
Hey man nice boat I myself have a 75 eliminator bubble deck an love it here a pic maybe see ya out there one day


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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 06:43:19 PM »
Nice start Jordan now stop touring and show up to a function :)


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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2014, 06:45:45 PM »
Very nice, looks just like my dads float. His is a 76 but looks identical with the colors.


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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2014, 07:12:48 PM »
Go with straight 50wt ....


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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2014, 09:59:26 PM »
Well...I did a poor job of posting the pics, but at least they are there.  The random frog hitched a ride all the way back down to SoCal.  I have several questions.

First, can anyone confirm what model of Eliminator I have?  Like I said, I think its an SS Bubbledeck.  Also, it has a delta pad bottom. 

It came with an MSD 8350 distributor with a vacuum advance, but it's plugged up.  Can anyone shed any light on that?  Should I hook up the vacuum advance line to the carb?
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The impeller has some dings in it.  It didn't seem to affect performance, but what do you guys think?  Before firing the motor on the trailer I replaced the gear oil in the bowl and greased the trust bearing.  The oil held in the bowl, but after running the boat I noticed it slowly leaking out through the nozzle.  I pulled the hand hole cover and made sure the impeller didn't have any play.  Based on my reading the tailshaft bearing is failing since the gear oil is leaking, but since the impeller shaft doesn't have play is it safe to run?  Or, does the bushing need to be replaced before I hit the water again?

Thanks!!

Congrats on the new boat. :thumbup:

Disclaimer: I don't know a lot about anything but just a little about a lot. Most of it I learned by reading these forums for the last 10 years.

It might have an official name, but most people don't really refer to that hull as a certain model. Just a bubbledeck. 

The reason the vacuum might be plugged, is because the advance is mechanically locked out. I think it has something to do with the amount of vacuum in a jet boat motor. Maybe ask the previous owner.

The impellor has definetely seen better days. I believe the leading edge should be sharp and even. It also looks like some cavitation on the face of the blades. Does it have a loader or just a rock grate in the opening of the intake? When you eventually rebuild your pump, maybe look into an inducer.

There is a seal that should keep that oil in the bowl. If there is no play in the shaft, the bowl bearings might be good and just the seal is bad. Another possibility is that it is water cooled. Ive read were some guys let the water go into the bowl, I think by not running a seal.

Also, If you haven't yet, make sure your water lines are all good.

Like I said, I don't know a lot. Just thought I'd post some ideas and maybe you can search and get a better idea of what you need.

Good luck.
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JordanDangerfield

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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 07:44:04 AM »

Hey man nice boat I myself have a 75 eliminator bubble deck an love it here a pic maybe see ya out there one day


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That's beautiful!
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JordanDangerfield

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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 07:46:21 AM »

Very nice, looks just like my dads float. His is a 76 but looks identical with the colors.


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I love the way these boats sit in the water. That's almost identical! Was his a delta pad? How'd it ride?
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JordanDangerfield

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1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 08:17:57 AM »
Justin, I'll make the August and October trips! We have the middle of July-Nov off.

The intake has the stock rock grate. I agree that the impeller looks bad, but it didn't cavitate or do anything weird. I didn't run it very hard though.

I read on Berkeley's site that it's normal for water to blow past the seal and replace the oil, but since it's leaking out the seal is probably shot. Because the bowl bearings aren't staying lubricated I know I shouldn't run it on the trailer. I'd like to wait until winter to pull the pump apart if possible.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2014, 08:23:49 AM by JordanDangerfield »
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jason

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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 09:59:43 AM »
Nice brother!!!!!

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Riverrat817

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Re: 1978 Eliminator Bubbledeck
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2014, 09:17:44 AM »

I love the way these boats sit in the water. That's almost identical! Was his a delta pad? How'd it ride?
Yes, it does have a delta pad. Boat rides great, I just had it out last weekend.


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