SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => Boat Showcase => Topic started by: IRRebel on April 08, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
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..... to stop me from buying Goddam Boats??? Omar wants to know.
Saw this thing on Craigs list this morning and was gonna post it on the Cragslist Spam thread. Called the guy, he lowered his price from $4700, then to $4200, by the time I got there to eyeball it, he had lowered it again to $3500. I got it for $3.
Obviously, no need to post it.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/boa/1111870583.html
In case that link is no good anymore, heres the pics from it.
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Turnkey 21' 1978 Biesemeyer Day Cruiser (In keeping with the recent trends on here!)
Ray
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Dude, that thing is super clean!
Screw the 12 steps, save them all from people on this site (that will remain nameless) from taking them to the dump! :sly:
Congrats.
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Thanks Jeremy, Couldn't find much bad about it, 'cept for the original metal flake gel coat that still shines. Some bumps and dings, but nothing major, it is 30 years old! Looks like some minor oil leaks, I suspect, but no milkshake evidence, and the old guy had it out last sunday with his grandson I'm told. Has had the engine rebuilt at some point, I can tell that much. Other than that, damn thing is sweeet! Sorry I didn't give anyone else the chance to get her, but I'll keep my eyes peeled! :sly:
Crewcheif would be proud, nearly impossible to terrorize my children in this thing I think. :(
And the price was right!
Ray
Now to deal with the Yellow Sub, need more room. Can't get the Bahner until I clear something out, such a quagmire I put myself in. But will be a fun summer!
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Screw the 12 steps, save them all from people on this site (that will remain nameless) from taking them to the dump! :sly:
Who would do something like that. :sly:
Nice find IRRebel. It looks just like the one my parents had, back in the day. Ours had windows on the side panels over the fuel tanks so you could see how much fuel was in there.
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Thanks!
It may well have had , at one point. Will find out more tomorrow night when I bring it home. Actually Friday when I can look at her closer in MY garage! I was sooo stoked, I took about 35 pics of it and left my camera on the deck of it. (Hadda get to work, guy called me to tell me he had my camera)
Interior was redone about a year or so ago, and where those woulda been is where they put in speakers on teak sidepanels.
Ray
Still haven't forgot about the moo, now commissioned "Udder Nonsense". I figure everyone in a mid-life crisis need a hot rod! Just debating now what boat I'm taking out on Sunday...............
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damn nice boat, killer price to, congrats
where you headed to on sunday, the wife and i have been discussing going out, just waiting to see what the weather will do.
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We're headed to Canyon Lake, weather permitting.
Ray
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Yeah dude - you had to do it. There's nothing wrong with you at least when it comes to spotting a great boat at a great price.
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Thanks! Called Omar, cuz I was supposed to pick up some parts from him and Andy's Bahner tomorrow, and told him i wasn't coming because I had no place to put the Bahner now, all he did was laugh at me, lol. :banghead:
2Sav's rubbing off on me. Maybe it's a Zona thing, like Valley Fever.
I hope so. The thing ain't no hot rod, but does sound pretty healthy. Just counting the minutes til I can go bring it home. Gonna hafta take it to work and look at it in the dam parking lot all day tho.............Might take it out tomorrow, however, I'm off!
Still, lol
Ray
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Nice freaking boat Ray. I live up here in Phoenix and their has been some nice daycruisers popping up. I loved this boat instantly. I think we should trade, my 78 Omega with a built 454. Daycruiser's are awesome. Later TC
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Lol nice try, But I gotta keep all my dizzy's on the right end, at least I was 'toad ta do'.
Whatcha doing Easter Sunday? Maybe you, me and Forkie can hook up on the water? I'm only 20 minutes from PHX, lol
Ray
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Good job Ray. Looks like everybody is going cruiser. I'm gonna hold out for a v-drive and or something around 26-28 foot. I just like the v-drive, when I was following crewcheif accross the lake moving at a pretty good clip, I acually reached down and tapped my tach and lifted the console to check the cable to see if my tach was working!!
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Hey Ray, my wife and I have to go to her fathers house for Easter. I tried to talk her into going to the lake but its her tradition to be at her dads. I think we might go next Sunday. After next Sunday we have all summer free to hit the lakes. If you or Forkie are ever coming up here to hit the lakes let me know. I live about 15 minutes from Lake Pleasant. We like to go to Bartlett too. Its probably our favorite lake around here. You can also send me an email at weld4days@yahoo.com and give me a heads up. It would be fun to hook up. TC
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Crap Ray, now you gotta change the cow boat's name from Udder Nonsense to Moooove Over, nice addition, you now have it as bad as I do :screwy:
GT
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Moooove Over,
GT
That there is funny! Good one GT 8)
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That there is funny, But I'm too far into the Udder Noinsense thing. However, no name on this one! lol Blue my wad? My Udder one Blew this one, Look what I found for Easter (It's a Pastel Blue and dark blue metal flake, does kinda resemble an Easter egg, ;D).....I heard a few more I'm afraid to post today while it was parked At the Ocotillo Home Depot Loading Zone all day. Shoulda seen the 'landscapers' bithin about that.
Going out again next sunday as well TC, Lake Pleasant sounds fine. I was told to terrorize the Cove if I took the Moo boat. Whatever that means. Forked up lives closer to you than me. cave Creek I beleive.
Anyway, got the boat home a little while ago, looked at my camera, guy jacked up my mem card, or I did (More likely the latter), so hadda put in a new one and take pics in the dark. Will take some more of it in the sun tomorrow.
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Ray
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nice and spark-l-ey, nice find Ray.
p-jet
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That is one cool cruiser, if you ever decide to sell her, let me know, I think we "need it" ;D, Don't change a thing with that flake though, it's retro and just plain bitchen.
I think my favorite accessory is the 100MPH taped reverse cable, I had a cable break at the Heim joint once at Lake Shasta, we were going about 40 MPH and the reverse gate came down and slowed the boat down like we hit a sand bar, took the reverse gate off and boated the rest of the week with it, what a mother to dock :banghead:
GT
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im scratching my head on the seats....why brown? only thing it matches is the swim step lol
dont get me wrong....its a damn sweet boat for a steel of a price too.....just not sure what the previous owner (or whoever) was thinking when they put brown seats in a blue boat. :screwy:
and yes...the tape on the cable is an added bonus for sure ;D
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Glitter Bull
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Yeah I know, the cable is jacked. Guy gave me another $100 off for that, so I paid $2900. Gonna call Tom in the morning and order a new one. Place Diverter cylinder leaking a little bit too. Probably needs repacked, if it can be done. Lots of little things, Hopefully nothing big. Big query on my mind was, Why the Faux leather brown upholstery? :screwy: Looks good, just dun match the boat. Needs it's original windsheild too. Only saw two bubbles on the deck, probably under the Easter Egg blue paint, I would guess. Wasn't a quality job, but looks great at 10 feet.
The flake is original gel. Lots more of it under the Powder Blue paint. I have no idea what it's original scheme was, but I have no intention of removing any of it right now! Might be nice to see what was originally under in tho. Strip part of it?? I dunno. Just gonna run it Sunday, hopefully everything works, replace the cable next week, hopefully it runs fine all summer. I'll run the Moo less though, but the kids might have more fun in this one instead of reciting prayers. >:D AND lights! Dunno if I like the idea of driving a jet boat at night, but nice to have it if I need it.
Next winter? Who knows, but yeah, the Flake stays no matter what I do. Totally old school.
Dad will have more fun in the Udder one! Was hoping to really get a good water test and tune in on Sunday with it, but I think, since it's Easter, Better to drive the more docile Easter Egg colored one anyway. 'Sides, wanna know if the pitot and speedo works! and how close it is to the GPS.
Anyone make a 2 boat trailer??? lol
Ray
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im scratching my head on the seats....why brown? only thing it matches is the swim step lol
dont get me wrong....its a damn sweet boat for a steel of a price too.....just not sure what the previous owner (or whoever) was thinking when they put brown seats in a blue boat. :screwy:
and yes...the tape on the cable is an added bonus for sure ;D
Wasn't there an old country song, something like "Don't it make my brown eye black and blue" or something somewhat close to near like that?
Maybe that's where the interior decorators mind was........ ;D
Ray
Yet another name! they keep on comin'
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I bitched about the upholstery in my last boat, once it hit the water i never noticed it again.
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Terry, you ALWAYS have a way of puttin things into perspective in one single statement! ::)
Wonderful friend you are!
Ray
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thanks Ray, see you at Echo Bay?
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Oh, yeah, scheduled my vacation already. Might make a week of it up there. Kids will be back east for the whole month. Just dunno which boat I'm gonna bring..........J/K Gotta be the Moo boat!.
Here's some pics I took of the Biesemeyer this morning. Looks like rain,dammit!, wanted to at least TRY and hit the water with it.
Taking some more pics in a minute of other crap I found. nothing major, like the rock grate bent sideways. Someone hit SOMETHING. (A crescent wrench and a pipe should straighten that out)
Maybe just take the day and check out the hand hole, put a better flame arrestor on, fill the tanks and check for leaks, etc. Don't need what Brad got into right away, I just wanna run this thing.
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Little Boy Blue, lol
Ray
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We did a little thrash on Brads here yesterday, motors all good now, tanks all good. Basicaly throw down a rug and seats.
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Yeah, I saw that! Need that kinda talent , and comradarie, handy here in PHX! Lol.
Ray
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If ever we can help....feel free.
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Nice boat Ray! I think you should "store" it here in Cali, I'll take good care of it for ya!
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Funny you say that. How about storing the Saguaro? lol so I can fit the Bahner in here? I'll deliver it when I go pick up the bahner?
It has it's lil things, like all boats I guess, and I have bigger plans for it, but for now, let it be, let it be..............
A little water in the oil, but only showed up being parked downhill in my driveway. Could just be condensation, nothing like the milkshake I made at Mead. Will keep an eye on it. In the meantime, I have the 460 I was building for the Saguaro JIC.
Ray
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Sure thing, I have the room if you want to bring it out here. I can't honestly recall what your saguaro looks like anymore, everything you have is cow spotted to me ;D
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Ray, that is one hell of a find! and the price :o
You are certainly HOOKED!
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Hence the thread title, ;D Thanks Jeremy.
Skip, I think since I have a Cow boat, and one painted like the milk maid that milks her, I should paint the Yellow one Mail Pouch Barn red!
Ray
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And the Saguaro is the Yellow and Silver one sitting beside my garage looking like the ignored orphan.
Ray
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This is funny. My neighbor across the cull de sac, (You can see the nose of his boat sticking out in one of my pics), just came over to tell me his wife wants me quartered and drawn! ;D
He bought his new one right after I bought the Moo boat, so he now has 2.......... She's worried now, lol!
He's cool. 75 years old, had jet boats in the past and is, according to his wife, an expert water skier. (He's gonna teach my kids how)
Can't tell you how much help they were, and all my neighbors, during my recent, well, loss. He wants to be the first to drive the Moo when we FINALLY hit the water with it tho. This is the first time he saw it with the tunnel, et al, on it.
He says 2 more and the neighborhood is officially promoting me to Admiral, lol. Dunno if that's what it officially takes, but OK.
Ray
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OK, Here's the rock grate and scarey pictures of the impeller. Not a project, yet, but what happened to do this?
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Anyway, a few seconds with a prybar, and we got this
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See the oil? Seems like engine oil leaking from somewhere. Next winter project I hope.
Ray
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Ray, I have a small single ski. Prolly for a small woman or kid. Does RJ skatboard? Remind me and I'll bring it to Echo Bay.
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Also have a set of skis, hope to have a minibike or two done by then.
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Wasn't there an old country song, something like "Don't it make my brown eye black and blue" or something somewhat close to near like that?
Maybe that's where the interior decorators mind was........ ;D
Ray
Yet another name! they keep on comin'
Ray , just for you my brotha ;D
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Oh and you bought another BOAT!!!!! :screwy:
Good looking ride... And yes i do rub off on people. ( Omar keep this comment to yourself ) ;)
To know me is to love me :-* ;D
Way to go boatmaster O0
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;DThanks Steve! almost up there with you, but I'm at 2 and 1, 2 running, 1 not. ;D
Showed RJ your post, Terry, he's stoked! Yeah, he skateboards, etc. He wants to try it. But they won't be with me at Echo Bay. Still want the skis tho, lemme know what you want for them. And the mini bikes? dude, he's excited. He was excited over Omar's Chopper! Post some pics when you're done with them. All I need to do is add a motorcycle and an Ice Cream truck to the mix and all my neighbors houses will be for sale! ::)
I've decided, but don't quite know if I can or if it's even legal, to expand my pool and convert my backyard into a large lake!
Ray
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If you can use the skis great. The minibikes are 40 yr old collector models, saw a lessor model then mine go for 2500 on ebay. But would like to bring 'em to cruise around the resort. Told the ole lady if we'd had 'em at Temple we prolly wouldnt have see RJ the whole weekend. Sucked there was no boys for him to play with. We should have hired him to keep the boats wiped down, dude coulda cleaned up that weekend.
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Lol, I had an old Rupp Black Widow growing up. I think what's left of it is still at my dad's somewhere in one of his sheds.
You're right, we'da lost him, ;D But he woulda been able to buy a boat himself if we'd done that!
Ray
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though the rock grate looks somewhat solid after the repair.....i would still replace it....if one of those fingers breaks off and goes through the pump, it will cost a lot more to repair/replace the pump then what it would cost to replace the rock grate.
just an idea to save you a headache down the road ;)
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Grates are cheap, whoes got one? Get that rupp, also a collector.
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though the rock grate looks somewhat solid after the repair.....i would still replace it....if one of those fingers breaks off and goes through the pump, it will cost a lot more to repair/replace the pump then what it would cost to replace the rock grate.
just an idea to save you a headache down the road ;)
Wasn't really a repair, just straightening it. But yeah, you're right. Looks like fun changing it, lol. Will try and remove the one from the Saguaro here in a bit (Same JC pump), might have that covered for the time being, Terry, if it comes off. Will need one for the Saguaro then........ if it works, lol
Where is my impact driver anyway????
Ray
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Wasn't really a repair, just straightening it. But yeah, you're right. Looks like fun changing it, lol. Will try and remove the one from the Saguaro here in a bit (Same JC pump), might have that covered for the time being, Terry, if it comes off. Will need one for the Saguaro then........ if it works, lol
Where is my impact driver anyway????
Ray
Ray, I have a stock grate you can have, just pay the shipping.
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i love them there biesmyers "spelling"...that is a nice ride right there...
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The thing is really growing on me too. Thanks Nordie!
Got the rock grate off the Saguaro, was easier than I thought, then it REALLY looked like rain. So covered the Blew one and sat in the Moo drinking beer and making vroom vroom noises.
Calling for t-storms all day tomorrow, hopefully can get it swapped out after work tomorrow for Sunday. Sunday's still looking good, if it's not that windy. Could be disaster trying to trailer this behemoth in high wind, lol (You guys that saw me trying to trailer the Moo can attest to my skillz there!)
Hopefully TC and Forkie can make it Sunday too, will be a hoot!
Ray
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12 step program = more beer!
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12 step program = 12 more beers!
Fixed it fo ya ;)
GT
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;D Thanks Glenn! ;)
Now it makes more sense!
Ray
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Omar sent me an Easter-gram the other day, as soon as I can figure out how to post it from my Blackberrry to here....... LMAO It is FUNNY, and yes, it's as sick as you all suspect it is!!!! Lol.
(In his defense, I sent him one nearly as sick first!)
Ray
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Well, we took her out today at Canyon Lake. At first, I saw disaster realizing the kids had been playing in the boat, and since I was about 10 miles from the lake when I filler her up, realized they had turned on the bow light (Which is apparently NOT wired through the ignition switch), and it may have been on for days. GREAT! I'm thinking dead batteries.
Anyway drop in in the lake, starts fine, a little sluggish, low battery, but runs good. None of the guages save the Fuel guage works. GREAT! Take it out anyway, (I got a spare engine, why not?) actually had 7 people in the boat and cruise all day in it. What a blast this thing is. Quiet, kinda, cruises at 55 or so with no problem (Will NOT spin above what seems like 3500-4000 rpm via seat of the pants). Tosses out a good roost (Knocked a prick off a wet bike who was being an ass fuggin around in my wake, when he got close enough, lol). I'm sold on these diverters, what fun. My friends hadda control me from trying to swamp a couple canoes and one guy in a kayak. It was tempting >:D
Great day. Beached it near the dock at the end of the day (Potty break), fugger wouldn't start (Dead Batteries), and then we tried jumping it, still wouldn't start. Hadda get towed to the launch dock about 100 yards away. Prolly a gremlin in there somewhere (or flooded). Oh well. A good day with it tho. Knocked a bunch of screws loose (On the boat, mine already were), and the guage quagmire should be something simple I'm sure. I LIKE IT! Great boat!, just needs some more HP or at least RPM. Could be the pump. You guys saw what the Impeller looked like, that could be just the tip of the iceberg with the pump. Gonna check out the throttle linkages and crap this week to see if that could be the problem.
Next Sunday, BARTLETT LAKE, BOTH BOATS, lol
Hope to see Forkie and TC there.
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I immediately named this Omar point, if you notice the rock formation on the RIGHT!
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And the roost
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So, not quite turnkey. Got some wiring issues, and probably an alternator, but not bad.
And did I mention I LIKE IT?
Ray
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Cool, good lookin' ride there Ray, sounds like a typical first outing to me, that place looks cool! except maybe the pee pee rock LOL.
Looks like "Step Three" is a keeper. ;D FWIW if it didn't have some gremlins it wouldn't be a boat.... ;)
GT
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wonder if the charging and gauge problem are related, we'll see in a day or two i guess
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Could very well be. I never posted pics of the mess of cut wires where a stereo used to exist. Methinks the problem lies within......
Ray
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Cool, good lookin' ride there Ray, sounds like a typical first outing to me, that place looks cool! except maybe the pee pee rock LOL.
Looks like "Step Three" is a keeper. ;D FWIW if it didn't have some gremlins it wouldn't be a boat.... ;)
GT
It is kinda cool. But TINY. I'm glad I didn't bring the Moo boat because I coulda never really opened her up anyway. The lake itself isn't as big as what water we could see from our motel rooms at Temple bar, and the pics you see were in the ONLY little canyon leading off the lake (and you can see how wide THAT was)
But beautiful? yes! But not worth a trip to see. I got about 3 dozen more pics of it, which pretty much would be a tour. That's why Bartlett next weekend. We'll see how that goes. Need a Fav lake to terrorize, lol.
Ray
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Bring one of them to Parker, several jets will be in the area next weekend.
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Cool boat Ray. Glad it worked good for the most part. We are still planning on hitting Barlett next Sunday. I hope to have a forsure answer by the end of the week. I dont know if you have been to Bartlett before but its awesome. Probably my favorite lake around here. I'm sure you can terrorize that one a little bit. TC
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Nope, never been there. Threatened my bud with bodily harm if he didn't get a 2" ball and 4 wire harness on his Xterra this week tho, lol. Need him to tow the Moo boat up there. I want both of them on the water. The Blue boat ran good, took all day today to charge 1 of the batteries, other is charging now, then I'll look into the wiring tomorrow night. But even 50-55 mph (And that is a Guess, might not have broke 50), unacceptable, lol. At least if I have the Moo boat there, might keep me from doing something silly with this boat, like tear the engine out and go crazy again!
Noone wants to ride in it (the moo boat) with me tho, lol. One guy asked which one was going so he would know to bring his fishing rod or his helmet.
What's the best way to Bartlett taking the 101 north? Don't even know where the launch ramp is? lol
Ray
Bring one of them to Parker, several jets will be in the area next weekend.
Thanks Keith! Would love to, but have B-day parties (2) on Saturday. Gonna be a Sunday only run. We will cruise again before summer is over, you coming to the Echo Bay deal?
Sorry to edit this, but TC, do I need a pass for that lake? and how bad are the Rangers there? Thinking of putting the baffles in, but don't wanna if I don't gotta.
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Hey Ray whats up! I would do a Map Quest but coming from your direction you can probably take the 202 or the 60 East to the 101. Go North on the 101 till you get to Scottsdale Road. Go north on Scottsdale Road till you get to Carefree Highway.Then head east and follow the signs. Better do Map Quest cause I never drove to that lake coming from the South. Once you get down to the lake you can see the little marina on your right and the ramp will be straight ahead of you. It cost us $10 for the truck and boat. We got our pass from the marina. I think the vehicle was $6 and the boat was $4. I have never seen any rangers there. I think you would be ok but maybe bring a couple of potatoes to stuff in those headers just in case. Its a calm lake, alot of fast bass boats. Their is a cool stretch where people camp and you can haul ass for eveyone on shore. Be careful cause I was showing off and got to the other end of the lake and my hoodie and shirt flew out. I had to drive home with no shirt. I'm trying hard to join you. My wallet is a little light at the moment. We have a wedding to go to on Saturday and it all depends on how much my wife spends Friday. Shes in the wedding. You know dress,hair,nails,shoes, and drinks Saturday. I will try to let you sometime Saturday. You will love the lake.
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I think we may need to have Brad move this to the Project boats thread! lol.
Nothing major, at least the floors staying in it. All minor stuff, but crawled under the dash to look and see if anything apparent stuck out. Yup! backwoods/Hill jack wiring, at it's best, and enough electrical tape I took off to pinstripe the boat with it (And more!).
Was getting VERY windy and bleak looking so I just covered it up for tonight. I'll take some pics of this mess in the morning. The guages are not even bolted in!, no brackets or anything!. I'm amazed none of them popped out Sunday. Wiring I can figure out, I think, reprinted the post on standard color codes, which should help.
Second battery and battery switch affair is not even hooked up, and the second battery is an anchor, breaker is disconnected, tubing from the Pitot to the Speedo is jacked (Should be an easy fix with some nylon tubing and a couple compression connectors)
Anybody know if you can get just the mounting brackets for gauges? I can fab some from some strapping I guess if need be, shouldn't be but a couple of hours with a sawzall and a drill. Did eyeball the bottle of Gorilla glue more than once tonight tho........Nah, better not! >:D
Gauges are lighted, but dunno if that part works or not. Looks to me like someone put these gauges in very recently, and obviously didn't know what they were doing. They look new tho.
Got some other stuff to do in the morning (Taxes! What a friggin nightmare this year!), hopefully I can get a bunch of connectors and fix this mess Thursday night, and change the oil and filter. Oil looks very grey, seems like condensation to me as it looked a little milky before I took it out on sunday. Cleared up after warming it up on the trailer, so I let it be.
But it did fire right up!, that's a good sign. Should be able to get this mess, and finish buttoning up the Moo for Sunday. Hell if Brad can tear half a boat apart and put it back together, including glass work in a week, I should be able to do this much that quick!
And I keep telling myself, tighten all the hose clamps, thighten all the hose clamps........ ;D
Ray
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OK, a successful trip, gonna start a new thread on this one maybe. Checked out the engine more closely today trying to understand why it won't spin above 4000 rpm, when it's rated 320 HP at 4600. Carb is opening all the way, no MSD unit with Rev Limiter, dunno about the secondaries, which may well be the issue, also dunno about the pump. Kinda scared to reach all the way back there to see if something's caught in the impeller ( Can't see anything from under it?)
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Any ideas?
I have a plan for this one, (I know, I know, the kids are frightened too), of putting the Performer RPM on it with an 850. Seems to have an 850 Single pump on it now (Non marine), you guys tell me, it's a lil bigger than the 750's on the Moo.
Anyone tell if it's an 850 from this, lol
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Also was wondering about this hose, the one to the left of the front fuel inlet. My 750's have a hole there for an adjustment screw, WTF is a hose doing there? lol
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Day off today, figured I'd spend some time replacing all the lost screws that fell out of it on Sunday and get a solid plan together about how to fix all the gremlins.
Ray
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That black hose is connected to your vacume advance port on the side and vacume break port (opens choke after fire up)on the bottom, plug 'em both.
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Oh, and if you get anything in your pump, and I mea ANYTHING, you will know it and you wont go anywhere in a hurry.
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Oh, and if you get anything in your pump, and I mea ANYTHING, you will know it and you wont go anywhere in a hurry.
Kinda what I thought too. Boat runs out, idles fine. Maybe just the impeller is too fugged up, but that wouldn't explain the rpm limitation. I ordered a huge (8") flame arrestor for it as the one on it is about the size of a donut, and it really looks more like a 950 to me. Too much bigger venturi's than my 750's to just be 1 step above I would think. If you aren't busy I'll call you in a few if I can find casting numbers on the carb body.
Ray
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So Terry seems to beleive the carb is a 750, and I agree with him that the RPM limitation is prolly due to the valvesprings (makes sense now that I think about it). I picked up a pretty good deal on an 850 marine DP, looks like I'm going to go ahead and install the RPM intake with it that came off the Moo, (Why not?), and ordered some 140lb Comp springs (Can't hurt) and a shim kit. What a tedious process this will be. Been many years since I changed springs on an assembled engine.
My bud is borrowing the boat this weekend to go fishing with a friend of his that's in from Cali, so maybe next week I can get this stuff done. His buddy is a Ford engine nut so maybe some more information will come to light.
Supposed to be mowing my grass (On my to do list), and cleaning up my backyard, but I think I'm gonna go change the oil in the Blue Meaney, lol. Don't want those guys breaking down, and it looks WAY overfull (No water that I can see........yet).
Ray
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I'm just sayin that a motor WILL NOT run any faster then the springs will let it, same with the points.
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Terry is right on the springs they need at least 100lb Ryanbrindle 460 would not even run good tell we changed the springs on his heads I should say he did the work at my shop. I have the tools do do this, Did you get your gauges mounted. The way I mount gauges is with pvc tube and house clamps those metal clams dont fit half the time even when you cut them. 2 in tube can be split and made to fit any gauge 2in to 2 1/4 (a dab of sillcone and your done.) :banghead:
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Will just kind of add to Rays initial post. Had a charging issue with it the other day, good thing we were at the dock when it wouldnt refire.
At the Positive going into the Voltage Regulator there is 13.9 Volts. At the Positive Post that goes to the Battery was getting 13.4.
Cut open the positive cable coming from the alternator back to the battery and found a layer of oxidation/corrosion on the outside of the copper. So I made a new one and installed it.
Before starting it, took the battery down and had it tested (Just in Case) and it tested fine. Reinstalled battery and checked voltage 12.30. Started the Engine and at the Battery was getting 13.05. Ran for 1.5-2 mins, turned it off. Battery is now at 12.48.
Anybody see anything wrong?
Note: At the ground for the battery if you ground to the nut on the block you get a low voltage rating, if you go to the wire you get a good reading. I will clean that tomorrow to make sure its a good ground.
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Anybody?
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Should be getting 13.8 when running, i always thought, but better than nothing that you thought you were getting with it. Hopefully you'll get it figured out! (as I check my bank account...........lol
Ray
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So in between working I ran out and fired it up.
Battery prior to starting: 12.29
Battery after starting: 13.10
Turned on Blower, Bilge, Bow Light, and Gauge Lights 1 by 1 until they were all on together, never got a voltage of less then: 13.01
Rev'd it a lil and the voltage climed back up to 13.10
Shut it off and the battery reads: 12.32
Anybody think there is an issue with charging?
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I don't, lol
Ray
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I don't, lol
Ray
I think the charging issue may have been a combination of issues.
The Alt had an oily film over it and in it. Disassembled and Cleaned with Electronic cleaner.
Corroded Charging wire, Replaced.
Charging Cable going to Terminal block rather then Solenoid, Changed that.
Really bad wiring on the Battery Switch, Disconnected it.
And a Volt gauge that was getting two 12v leads straight from battery, probably draining it when boat was off.
I want to take it out again to go flip the "Free Flattie" but dont want to be stranded with no power!
Chromey, dont you have one of those portable jumpers?
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I don't, lol
Ray
But I could be wrong.................................. ....lol! ;D
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As much as it pains me, but fitting and despite how over done it is, The next ones gonna have to have flames painted on it!
Ray
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I am still in shock about this. I thought we had gotten through a lot a gremlins with the cruiser.
I am so thankful that no one was hurt, other then wallets and pride!
anything I can do...let me know!
Jeremy
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Thanks Jeremy. Actually, I'm ok with it, I had less than 4k into the thing, coulda been worse. A LOT worse!) HAD it been the Moo, yeah, I'd be heartbroken as far as the boat goes, prolly more so, as Cadillac was. I was joking around about it quite a bit last night, and LORD the hangover I had going into work this morning! Went in at 8, sobered up about 2 PM. I think the getting drunk part was more my brother than me.
My Brother is absolutely sick about it. I pretty much made it his boat (Trying to get some evenness in his soon to be divorced, messed up life), and he's just ill. When I was stopped by the other boat that had rescued them, he was sitting on it's swim deck and appeared injured, which scared me. After all was said and done (And you heard the shit I was giving him when I talked to you), it is what it is, and the Biesemeyer Cruisers just became rarer.
Didn't help matters when I was kidding him saying, "It wasn't enough to break it, or even sink it, you hadda blow it up, burn it, THEN sink it" lol. (That's how we are, rub the salt in).
Haven't told my son yet (The kids are back East for the summer), RJ's gonna lose it! He loved that boat! Hoping I can find a replacement I can afford before they come back.
Ray
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What'd ya think of the link I sent you last night?
Thought of a new one....only fitting in certain situations (like this one)
F - Fire
O - On
R - River
D - Day
couldnt resist!
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What'd ya think of the link I sent you last night?
Thought of a new one....only fitting in certain situations (like this one)
F - Fire
O - On
R - River
D - Day
couldnt resist!
That's friggin funny right there! lol
Ray
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What no jets around? Coulda roosted that bad boy out......
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Lol, true, but the only jets I saw all day were mine, and the only one able to roost was the one on fire! (My diverter for the moo arrives on Monday)
Ray
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i think the amount of water that it would take to put that fire out would sink it anyways.
so what now? are you going to leave it at the bottom? did the local authorities get called? if so, are they sending you a bill? are they going to recover it?
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Should I call the dude with the Sanger Ray?
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i think the amount of water that it would take to put that fire out would sink it anyways.
so what now? are you going to leave it at the bottom? did the local authorities get called? if so, are they sending you a bill? are they going to recover it?
Yeah, we called the Sherrif's dept in, and they filed a report and gave me a case number. Noone took my number for anything, but they mighta my brother. I don't think there's much to recover, Brad, really, but they might. My brother was going to check and see if his homeowners insurance covered it somehow (One of the deputies mentioned that).
Up to me? yeah, I'd just leave it there, lol. Some good parts are there, maybe, but that fire was HOT! I'm gonna call the marina Monday and see what, if anything, needs to be done.
Should I call the dude with the Sanger Ray?
That came to mind yesterday too Terry, lol. I'll call yah.
Ray
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Whatya guys think of this one? A fixer upper, but not a full blown project..
http://tucson.craigslist.org/boa/1205189307.html (http://tucson.craigslist.org/boa/1205189307.html)
Methinks I like it alot!
Ray
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Not bad! And it already has a Flame Arrestor! >:D
Found you a new cruiser, Should fit in perfect!
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/boa/1207162532.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/boa/1207162532.html)
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What'd ya think of the link I sent you last night?
Thought of a new one....only fitting in certain situations (like this one)
F - Fire
O - On
R - River
D - Day
couldnt resist!
Cute! :P But it had nothing to do with being Ford! :mad: :sly: lol
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Cute! :P But it had nothing to do with being Ford! :mad: :sly: lol
Sure it did!, The Ford ran, if it was a Chevy, it would have been broken sitting alongside the house nice and safe... :sly:
Fords run more often, but CHevy's run harder when they run..... ;D Not a Ford fan unless the Chevy is broken :screwy:
GT
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I guess you could say Ray single handedly brought Hot Boat back from the dead :o
GT (J/K Ray) ;D
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Cute! :P But it had nothing to do with being Ford! :mad: :sly: lol
It was just a joke because the boat had a 460!
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No Ford, but hey!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1208773035.html
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It was just a joke because the boat had a 460!
It said LOL... OC jus' messin' with ya! ;D
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It said LOL... OC jus' messin' with ya! ;D
I didnt even see the LOL, was at work when I read it...
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Hey Ray, I found step Four....LOL
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1209156292.html
Check the powerplant! Gotta another Berkeley if you want to convert it :sly:
GT
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Hey Ray, I found step Four....LOL
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1209156292.html
Check the powerplant! Gotta another Berkeley if you want to convert it :sly:
GT
Hes got a Berk with a Hydraulic Divertor and a hell of a rudder....Just needs to go back and get it!
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Hey Ray, I found step Four....LOL
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1209156292.html
Check the powerplant! Gotta another Berkeley if you want to convert it :sly:
GT
He says no problems, but it has a small block Chrysler and a Panther >:D ;D
Now If he'd put a BB Chrysler and a Berk that thing would sell in a heart beat.
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I really like the open bow. I'm kinda getting to really like the idea of one! (The beisenmeyers got one now!).
It was just a joke because the boat had a 460!
It still has a 460, that was running fine even on fire! Brother Brett shut it down though when it looked outta hand.
Don't need to stay with Fords, that's just what mine have all come with is all. The interchangeability of stuff is kinda nice though. I'm hoping the pinhead with the Sleekcraft emails me back so I can go look at the thing. Otherwise, that yellow one with the shooting glass windsheild sure looks different!
That open bow sure looks flat! Might be a fun ride, >:D Especially up front in Bikini season! Yeah, it's definately have to go Hemi and a Berk or something though.
And thanks Glenn, lol I think if I were to paint flames on mine, they'd have to be aiming up, not towards the back of the boat to keep things on an honest level, ;D And I saw you caught the thread over on PB too, lol. How funny is that?
Lemme see what I think I can afford for a budget for this. That $1700 Sleekcraft, if not too bad and really only needs a pump looks like a very sweet deal. No matter what I get, it's coming apart and getting THOROUGHLY gone through like the Moo did. I'm not taking anyones definition of turnkey again. I got til July 29th when RJ comes home to rectify this or he just might kill his uncle Brett, >:D
We'll get it together with something guys, thanks for all the help.
The guy with the turbos sent me his number, you still want 'em Glenn?
Ray
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I really like the open bow. I'm kinda getting to really like the idea of one! (The beisenmeyers got one now!).
It still has a 460, that was running fine even on fire! Brother Brett shut it down though when it looked outta hand.
Don't need to stay with Fords, that's just what mine have all come with is all. The interchangeability of stuff is kinda nice though. I'm hoping the pinhead with the Sleekcraft emails me back so I can go look at the thing. Otherwise, that yellow one with the shooting glass windsheild sure looks different!
That open bow sure looks flat! Might be a fun ride, >:D Especially up front in Bikini season! Yeah, it's definately have to go Hemi and a Berk or something though.
And thanks Glenn, lol I think if I were to paint flames on mine, they'd have to be aiming up, not towards the back of the boat to keep things on an honest level, ;D And I saw you caught the thread over on PB too, lol. How funny is that?
Lemme see what I think I can afford for a budget for this. That $1700 Sleekcraft, if not too bad and really only needs a pump looks like a very sweet deal. No matter what I get, it's coming apart and getting THOROUGHLY gone through like the Moo did. I'm not taking anyones definition of turnkey again. I got til July 29th when RJ comes home to rectify this or he just might kill his uncle Brett, >:D
We'll get it together with something guys, thanks for all the help.
The guy with the turbos sent me his number, you still want 'em Glenn?
Ray
Let's see what pans out on the Beezer first Ray (I guess you could be on the hook for it right?)
If the pump that Sleek needs is a Berkeley, I'm your Huckleberry... ;)
May have to settle for a "C" bowl deal, but good stuff just the same. ;)
Lemmeknow if the dude gets a hold of you and what it's needs really are. Here to help if I can.
Thanks Ray!
GT
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Those are some gay ass lookin boats boyz............
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Terry, only you, lol. (And why I love you) Yeah, I want that Sanger! But I gotta have a cruiser back. Don't need or want one as big as what you want, but everyone loved that boat, especially when the wind was high or we went on the weekend with all the wakeboarders (The Moo is a kidney killer, though I'm getting better at working with and driving it, still a handful, worse now opening up the RPM limiter to 6000, can't imagine what your Sanger is like, but am DYING to find out).
We'll see where we're at here shortly. Could be on the hook for the Beezer, right on Glenn. Had a guy today (Who works for SRP) tell me that sometimes SRP (Who kinda owns all the lakes, dams, etc associated with that water) will recover the shit, landfill it and then send you a bill!
If I gotta get it outta there, I want it on my terms first, so Yeah, calling the bastards Monday morning! (At least some parts will be OK I'm sure).
Ray
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I think you should drag it up, if you can, part it out to recover what you can. Get one (1) cruiser and one (1) hotrod. I only want about a 23" with a little cabin that I can crash (ha ha) in so I can anchor it and run around in the flatty all day. This brand new polished 8-71 is really drawing my attention, just sent an e-mail to the guy about seeing it. Buy it before I do, I cant afford it right now! I'd make you a swingin deal on the old flatty right now. Got v-drive, block, crank, rods, Bassetts, tunnel ram, seats, tanks, Mag it's basicaly all there. Like you said, take 'em all apart and do it right (denig) yourself.
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I am VERY interested Terry, but like I said, gotta see what all this is gonna cost me, and wait on taxes for sure. Didn't plan on this, lol.
Ray
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:sly: :sly: :sly: :sly: :sly: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/1212056126.html :screwy:
;DGT ;D
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:sly: :sly: :sly: :sly: :sly: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/1212056126.html :screwy:
;DGT ;D
2k??? With all the problems that thing has, he should be paying someone to take it!