SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => Boat Showcase => Topic started by: wizard612 on March 17, 2008, 04:20:30 PM
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Thought I would post up this latest image of the new tunnel boat I'm trying to figure out how to finance.
This picture should help. Since the last image posting I've changed it to a CJ with twin dominators and Headers. Figured out a cool trailer and added something to tow it with. Added some sugar and resurrected my old business name "Aire Kraft Boat Works Co."
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THat sh*t is sic........
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I can almost fill out an entry form now...
Make: Aire Kraft Boat Works
Model: Hellcat ( AKBW new designs will be named after famous aircraft old designs will become "neo-retro series" boats)
Boat Name: Aire Force Won
Boat Number: CJ612
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WOW WOW WOW ! Freakin amazing ! Do you have a pit crew yet ? :sly: BTW , if was a pleasure meeting you this weekend .
-beerjet-
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Tom, like Omar said, it was a pleasure meeting you this weekend, hopefully we'll see you at some more races, I'd love to hear some of the stories of your racing past.
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For the record, I did not do that photoshop pictrure. :screwy: Cool looking race boat.
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Just for the record it's not a photoshop pic. It is completely modeled in 3-d using Sketchup. A realy cool program I use almost everyday for Architectural design. I just like to push the envelope in most things I do.
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Just for the record it's not a photoshop pic. It is completely modeled in 3-d using Sketchup. A realy cool program I use almost everyday for Architectural design. I just like to push the envelope in most things I do.
I meant I was being :screwy: assuming anyone on this board even remotely thought I may have done that drawing. Very cool program I am sure.
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no matter what that is freaking cool...i couldnt even do a stick figure...awesome job....looks bitchen
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For the record, I did not do that photoshop pictrure. :screwy: Cool looking race boat.
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc290%2Fbeerjet%2Ffunny-2.jpg&hash=f10f502c70e81f23c54b6bef2844e6ac1949fe25)
-beerjet-
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ouch :-X
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:-*
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You didnt have to move this to its own post didnt bother me at all..... But like the picture anyway!!!!!
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The latest on the engineering portion is looking up. I now have a tunnel boat modeling program and started running some numbers. Unfortunately it does not understand Jet drives. The program does recognize Arneson drives though so I looked to see how fast and how stable it would be with a prop hanging off the back. Arneson has bad acceleration but once on the step lookout. Computer has the speed at 218 and reasonably stable with 30% of the lift in the sponsons and 70% in the wing. All I need is a one mile drag strip.
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That's an awesome design!!!
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Not much new to report on. Bennett and I are having a hard time getting together. When the Space Shuttle flies, he has to be available 24/7. But I have worked a little on the computer model and have a nicer pix of it here. Dimensions look like they will change soon. The computer program indicates too much aero lift pulling the hull completely out of the water at speed. Next I need to see how the adjustable aero parts will work on the design but the design program can't deal with adjustable surfaces. No need for pit crew yet we're a long way from the water.
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is that hull legal for c/j class?
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Per the current rules I don't see why not. It's considered a mod-v type hull since it has a center pod per UIM. They allowed it back when we raced Eliminator Daytons in Ski Jet and Comp jet in the 70's. The whole idea of the boat is to see how a jet should evolve since then. But beside all the rule stuff is it cool or what?
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that is a baaaaaaaddddaaaaaaassssss looking boat ;D
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Had some discussions with Bennett today and I'm starting to change my thinking on how to progress. A "test mule" may be in the works to establish optimum hull dimensions. Simply discribed, a center pod, two wing sections, and two sponsons able to be bolted together at different relative heights and angles all rigged up with pressure sensors in order to calculate lift/drag/speed/angle of attack etc. With the economy going the way it is the project is starting to look more like a high tech backyard engineering hobby rather than the start of a new company... sad...
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so when you talk about the center pod and the outside 'sponsons' (sorry i dont know much of the lengo), do you mean its kind of the same design of Advantages' new X-flight 29'? because i remember seeing that boat in an issue of hotban looking like a cat, but actually having a center v-hull under it, and the outside things acting for turning or aerodynamic stability...just curious, because that hull so far has been a hit ive heard...
BTW: sick ass design! i hope you get a chance to sprout one out of a mold someday ;D ;D
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Design is much more Daytona like. Center pod is just wide enough for the intake motor and in this case the driver's butt to fit into. The sponsons being the very much like a tunnel outboard. Advantage's new design I saw @ LA Boat Show, It's a kind of hybrid I think they are trying to marry the advantages of a v-bottom (though I can't remember what they are... oh yea... rough water) and air entrapment of a tunnel.
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Latest on building a boat. Trying to keep from doing this all myself, I went to a shop that prototypes cars, planes etc. to see what kind of budget it would take for the engineering, plug, molds and a first part. The good news was they were very intrigued with the concept. These guys build the concept cars for Ford, GM, Dodger/Chrysler, Chip Foose etc. They also make the bodies for John Force's Funny Cars. That's the real good news. They thought that a ready to go first article including all the stuff leading up to a first article would be about $1,250,000. That's the real bad news. Guess I'll build the plug in plywood and lay up the molds with lots of beer and help from weekenders like you SCJBers. Anybody got a 10x23 autoclave in there backyard?
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:o WOW ! No autoclave here but I'm kind of handy with wood , so they say :sly:
-beerjet-
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:o WOW ! No autoclave here but I'm kind of handy with wood , so they say :sly:
-beerjet-
lets keep this thread out of the gutter, omar ;) ;D
between omars carpentry skills, a lot of beer and me knowing nothing...we will complete nothing quick! lets get started!
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Did some research on capsules trying to find common ground between APBA and SFI capsule requirements. Does not exist. APBA Reinforced capsules with a cage and canopy requires a bottom hatch and SFI cages require so much x-bracing you couldn't put in a door in the floor big enough for a gerbil. On the other hand nether would require a capsule in any kind of Comp Jet anyway. So If it had one which rules would apply. Or would any rule apply?
Drag boat, no problem, SFI capsule. They require like three production prototypes to be sent to them for testing. Basically you provide them with $30k worth of brand new capsules and they check them out for you and return them in a trash bag. Of course you have to pay them for the privilege.
Circle Boat, not sure yet. I haven't looked thoroughly through all the rules but I think you can use one of about four different capsules anything from a reinforced tub to a full caged, canopy covered, self contained job with said hatch in the floor.
So unless you build two separate boats or get APBA to approve of using a SFI Capsule you could not take a circle boat to an NJBA event and run it in the drags.
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:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :mad: :mad: :screwy: :screwy:
Know what I mean?
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Got an email response to the question given to APBA. Still not perfectly clear but it says that CJ is a socal local class and the class rules apply. I guess that means that our local class rules don't require a capsule and doesn't mandate "no capsules allowed" therefor any capsule is OK as long as all the rest of the class rules and APBA safety rules are met. That brings up other questions like life jackets. Full flotation life jackets are a requirement but if you are in a capsule no matter how it's designed are you not allowed to use a capsule type jacket? This would be knarly to try to fit into a laydown capsule with a full jacket and still try to see over your chest and drive it.
For now it looks like it could be the only CJ circle boat with a SFI certified capsule capable of running both circles and drags... More to come.
P.S. If the CJ class goes national the new class rules will be created by APBA. I'm sure they will be based on the local class rules but I would hate to have any capsule requirement mandated after the boat is built.
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Mark 3 design is coming along. This design more closely follows the computer test simulator dimensions. Also has SFI type capsule and cage. Not sure if I'll go with operable "flaps" on the wing trailing edge. Think I have the basic mechanics for the gyro stabilized canard wing in the front figured out. I like the way it's heading. Still want to work out a better engine cover.(http://)
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Bad Ass ! Thats coming along nicely my man. Keep us up to date.
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Latest image cleaned up the engine cover added Rear view mirrors so we can see the rest of the race, added a F-1 type steering wheel for fun. No dash then needed.(http://)
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Thinking to myself about how to get some cash for this thing I thought "how about sponsors!" so I did up this little number. Wouldn't it be great to get the whole class with NASCAR type support on a smaller scale?(http://)
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Wouldn't it be great to get the whole class with NASCAR type support on a smaller scale
IO would push to have you granted sainthood :)
-beerjet-
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A little bit of Photoshop... Racing @ the river...(http://)
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I can see that happening 8)
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A little bit of Photoshop... Racing @ the river...(http://)
did 2sav show you how to do that ;D